Chapter 2 “Language Terminology and important Issues” is our focus in this session. Attendees and panelists read the chapter in advance. Homework submitted by panelists concerns their personal take on concepts suggested by author Val Greenwood. Thank-you to moderators Melinda Culpon and Liberty Evanko for compiling homework submission and leading this discussion. Note this group meets monthly, usually on the 4th Wednesday of the month.
The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664
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AmericaGen Study Group Homework (combined and annotated – view only) https://drive.google.com/file/d/14KXSlsRrezlUGeMKpx9b943qx7ts5vwY/view?usp=sharing
The conversation continues HERE – https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/BSLTdNsM3DT
10:04:25 From Cary Bright : FamilySearch Wiki is my first stop in developing a plan for my research. Vocabulary, record availability and links to records in the FHL catalog. https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Main_Page
10:05:40 From Cousin Russ : Black’s Law Dictionary – 1st and 2nd Edition on CD http://www.genealogyblog.com/?p=30983 A Dictionary of Law Containing Definitions of the Terms and Phrases of American and English Jurisprudence, Ancient and Modern (First Edition, 1891 & Second Edition, 1910); by Henry Campbell Black, M.A.; 2485 pp; CD; Published: 1891 and 1910; Republished on CD: 2006; ISBN: 1933828080; Item # US0211
10:06:13 From Dawn Carlile : They took out a number of older terms to add new terminology for the 5th edition.
10:11:41 From Cousin Russ : A to Zax: A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists and Historians. Third Edition https://heritagebooks.com/products/a-to-zax-a-comprehensive-dictionary-for-genealogists-and-historians-third-edition
10:16:08 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Idem Sonans – Sounding the same or alike; having the same sound. A term applied to names which are spelled differently.
10:16:15 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : Name pairs have happened with our German ancestors living in Poland. Sometimes they would use their German surname and sometimes the equivalent surname in Polish. They mean the same thing but, are two different words.
10:17:05 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : I have 2 Hames brothers which 1 changed his spelling to Haymes. It didn’t cross my mind to check out the other spelling until I saw that these were in the same family.
10:17:07 From Valerie Lisk : I have 2 brothers who went by Robinson and the other 2 went by Robertson. Two different soundex codes.
10:17:21 From Lisa Gorrell : That paired names also happened in French Canada, too.
10:17:33 From Jackie Wilson : That just shows how important genealogy education is!
10:19:00 From Melinda Culpon : we have peveto, pivot, pevito cousins
10:19:02 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hey, Lisa: I’m French-Canadian. We might be related!
10:19:02 From Isabella Baltar to All panelists : The same happen to Portuguese families when they immigrated to US. Their names and surnames were adapted to English. Many of them are similar to the native language, but others totally different.
10:20:14 From Irene : It’s probably commmon but, with my McQueen’s from Scotland, all 4 brothers and 2 uncles changed the name to MacQueen once they reached NY in the 1890’s.
10:21:02 From Leah Smith to All panelists : I have French Canadian family who at different times used 3 different surnames – French surname, dit name, and Anglicized version of French surname. There were also variant spellings of the French surname.
10:27:35 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Was the name on that sheet, just now Ousley?
10:28:36 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Yea, part of the Owsley/Ousley lines.
10:29:19 From Kim Krautheim to All panelists : My maiden name is Daugherty, and they’re from eastern Tennessee. My Daugherty line has more folks that have married other Daugherty’s than any other line (marrying someone with the same surname.)
10:29:23 From Lisa Gorrell to Yvonne Demoskoff and all panelists : No. I have no French Canadian ancestors. I did some research for someone else.
10:32:57 From Cousin Russ : Ancestry’s Wiki https://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
10:33:05 From Cousin Russ : The Source: A Guidebook to American Genealogy – Szucs and Lubking [Note: integrated into Ancestry’s Wiki] https://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php/The_Source:_A_Guidebook_to_American_Genealogy
10:33:17 From Janet McNaughton to All panelists : When you transcribe do you use the letters as they appear or the modern spelling or both?
10:34:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Shows how closely connected the record keeping traditions are as I encounter the same problems with my English research.
10:35:06 From Lisa Gorrell : Some hyphens were = signs either on the first line or the second line before the rest of the word.
10:36:43 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : Kip Sperry’s book “Reading Old Handwriting” is excellent.
10:37:36 From Cousin Russ : Reading Early American Handwriting 1st Edition by Kip Sperry https://www.amazon.com/Reading-Early-American-Handwriting-Sperry/dp/080630846X
10:38:37 From Cousin Russ : BYU SCRIPT TUTORIAL – https://script.byu.edu/Pages/home.aspx
10:40:04 From Cousin Russ : FamilySearch Indexing – https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/
10:40:45 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : They have a backlog of 7.7 millions records. Needed!
10:41:04 From Maria Tegtmeier : Indexing is great Karma.
10:42:06 From Maria Tegtmeier : We watched a recent video that says only 30% of the records that Family Search has, has been indexed.
10:49:33 From Karen Jaszewski : Thank you everyone
10:50:04 From Pam Helm : Thank you Very informative
10:50:05 From Cary Bright : To me this chapter highlighted the tools needed in a genealogy tool box. Excellent way to highlight all the material. Great JOB to the panelists.
10:50:08 From Isabella Baltar : Thank you for this opportunity! Great.
10:50:58 From Teri Chaffin to All panelists : Love listening to all of you smart people — Thanks
10:51:07 From Jackie Wilson : I love the Source AND the authors!
10:52:43 From Cousin Russ : The conversation continues HERE – https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/BSLTdNsM3DT
AFTER PARTY COMMENTS
It’s a party after Ol’ Myrt here stops the official recording. THANKS to Teri Chaffin for designing DearMYRTLE’s After Party graphic. Of course that’s sparkling apple cider in those flutes. 🙂
10:55:10 From Jackie Wilson : AmbushCAM = VLOG? LOL
10:55:15 From Hilary Gadsby : Ancestral Trails: The Complete Guide to British Genealogy and Family History this book costs over $50 new but is an excellent book that I use so this American Genealogy book is cheaper.
10:57:18 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank each of you for a good session once again.
10:57:21 From Irene : Thank you. Interesting information to go with the chapter.
11:01:12 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Hello – I was wondering the same thing about the wheelchair. The reason I didn’t make it to #rootstech is because I can’t walk for long enough. Can you rent wheelchairs? [NOTE: ” SCOOTER AND WHEELCHAIR RENTALS The Salt Palace Business Center offers both electric mobility scooters and manual wheelchairs to assist you while you are visiting our convention center. Our fleet is located on-site, with hourly, daily and event rates.” See https://www.visitsaltlake.com/salt-palace-convention-center/exhibit-meetings/business-center for phone and additional details.]
NEW #ROOTSTECH EXPO HALL HOURS
- Wednesday 6pm to 9pm
- Thursday 9:30am to 6pm
- Friday 9:30am to 7pm
- Saturday 9:30am to 4pm
11:01:25 From Jackie Wilson : Don’t they have a map of the vendor hall so you can map where you want to go? [ NOTE: Yes, this is the link to the Expo Hall with the map. https://www.rootstech.org/expo-hall The map is also downloadable.]
11:02:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Don’t forget to put the app on your phone
11:03:15 From Kim Krautheim : Got it, so just read Chapter 3 for next month.
11:03:18 From Kim Krautheim : THANKS!
11:04:31 From Maria Tegtmeier : They also have an app called Relatives at Rootstech
11:07:12 From Hilary Gadsby : You can use the Relatives at RootsTech when you get there https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/relatives-rootstech/?cid=tp-rt-6564
11:07:42 From Liberty Evanko to All panelists : I can hear my kids fussing at eachother. Thanks for a great session. It was fun but I better go!
11:09:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Not yet available on Android
11:10:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I may be helping out on WikiTree not decided on a time yet
11:11:26 From Jackie Wilson : I guess I had better start blogging so I can get my own [GeneaBloggersTRIBE] beads!!!!
11:11:47 From Hilary Gadsby : I share my blog with family
11:12:30 From Hilary Gadsby : My cousins family were in Illinois
11:13:20 From Deb Andrew : I’m an Illinoisan.
11:14:10 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : It is very cool.
11:15:07 From Jackie Wilson : I live in Illinois – Chicago so if you need legs on the ground . . .
11:17:52 From Jackie Wilson : Hillary, Skype might work.
11:20:28 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Love you guys! Wish I had talked to you about #Rootstech.
Cumulative list of Study Group Sessions
- Chapter 1 “Understanding Genealogical Research”
- Chapter 2 “Language Terminology and important Issues” (this is it!)