MondaysWithMyrt

We went exploring and experimenting today during Mondays with Myrt. Find out about “geo redirection”.

I certainly hope Ancestry.com is paying attention, as we came up with a good idea to improve FindAGrave Virtual Cemeteries. So let me hashtag the heck out of this in hopes of getting the developer’s attention. #ancestry #FindAGrave and #have wegotanideaforyou

We were also frustrated when websites such as Ancestry or #FindMyPast have different extensions for countries. In our research FindMyPast.co.uk and FindMyPast.com (US version) have more than a different landing page. In the case of the 1911 Census pages, the UK version has a link to instructions for enumerators, not found in the US version. UPDATE: At the time of this post’s publication this appears to have been corrected.

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10:00:21 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone, listening in from the Houston County, Tennessee Archives!
10:01:03 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Hello and CROAK CROAK happy Spring
10:02:00 From Amy Woods Butler to All panelists : Hi, happy to join you for the first time!
10:02:32 From Hilary Gadsby : Welcome Amy
10:03:21 From Cousin Russ : Happy Blogiversary to Genea-Musings http://geneabloggerstribe.com/happy-blogiversary-to-genea-musings/
10:03:40 From Jackie Chalmers : Morning every one!
10:04:10 From Cousin Russ : WHERE are DearMYRTLE’s Webinars archived? At MYRT’S MUSINGS http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/blog/
10:05:35 From Karen Trearchis : You are all our cousins!

FindAGrave
10:05:39 From Cousin Russ : Find a Grave as Cousin Bait https://worthy2be.wordpress.com/2018/04/16/can-the-find-a-grave-website-be-cousin-bait/

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: During this FindAGrave discussion, we attempted to discover how well integrated the “Virtual Cemetery” option is at this point. Sadly, we found virtual cemetery listings don’t show up in the name search hit list, making it harder for researchers to collaborate. Instead the link to my Player Family Virtual Cemetery is sadly buried (pardon the pun) under an individual FindAGrave contributor’s profile – something akin to needing to guess at an email address. On the plus side, Ol’ Myrt here figured if I obtain the URL for my “Virtual Cemetery” I could share that with my cousins.

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10:05:41 From Gloria Deison : Morning!! (Afternoon here!) Random: just got 2 books (there are never enough books), translating the titles: “Jewish in the history of Friuli (NE Italy)” and “Margins of freedom: female wills in the Middle Ages” can’t wait to read them… once I’m done with the 10 I’m reading !!
10:06:57 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I like the Virtual Cemetery idea, will try it out.
10:07:50 From Randy Seaver : I like the Virtual Cemetery idea, will try it out. I’ll put all of my ancesrtor’s FAG memorials in it.
10:10:46 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Creating a Virtual Cemetery would make a good topic for a Wacky Wed. (or video) session
10:10:49 From Bill West : Good morning from soggy Massachusetts
10:11:48 From Deb Andrew : I check who created the memorial and who left flowers.
10:14:30 From Deb Andrew : I’ve been contacted by cousins through the regular part.
10:15:18 From Marian Koalski : I created a virtual cemetery for veterans at a local cemetery … in the days of old Findagrave.
10:15:19 From Michelle Minner: This will be perfect for me! WOW…I have a couple of grandparents that were the first to not be buried at the family plots! good way to show where!
10:15:23 From Hilary Gadsby : I already have a virtual cemetery
10:15:46 From Danine Cozzens : This would be so helpful! New to me.
10:15:53 From Linda Jordan: Didn’t know about it. Definitely will do it.
10:16:21 From Amy Woods Butler to All panelists : Love the virtual cemetery for vets idea!
10:17:11 From Randy Seaver : How do people find a public Virtual Cemetery? Only by a link to it on a website or email? Or will it pop up in a search for a person?
10:18:42 From Marcia Philbrick : Photos on Billion Graves have GPS coordinates associated. Thus, you can pull up a cemetery in Billion Graves and see where the stone is within the cemetery.
10:20:22 From Jackie Chalmers : You could create a virtual tour with Google Earth!

This is the virtual tour I made of my father’s childhood homes up on Queen Anne Hill in Seattle, Washington using Google Maps.

 

10:21:20 From Randy Seaver : [The FindAGrave Virtual Cemetery] may require a re-indexing overnight or every six months
10:22:29 From Marcia Philbrick : I have an old virtual cemetery. I just searched for one of the members and the Find a Grave search did not find the virtual cemetery. (Duane Gail Crawford)
10:24:50 From Deb Andrew : When you go to the profile page, it will show up there.
10:25:01 From Nancy Mason: what if you search under cemeteries rather than for a person
10:25:58 From Randy Seaver : is there any way to add a Note to a profile in the Virtual Cemetery?
10:27:07 From Marie Andersen: Can Russ search under Cemeteries for Player Cemetery?
10:27:27 From Michelle Entrop I’m going to create a virtual one for my upcoming family history trip to Puerto Rico!
10:31:51 From Geoff Mulholland to All panelists : On the old site the edit screen for the virtual cemetery- at the bottom of the Box says Choosing Yes makes this virtual cemetery visible to Visitors of your contributor page
10:33:41 From Valerie Lisk : Has anyone uploaded their DNA to WikiTree? Is there an advantage over GedMatch?

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10:34:00 From DearMYRTLE: WIKI TREE – Are you interested in being a [Clean Up] team captain? Contact Eowyn at eowyn@wikitree.com
10:34:28 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : How about “Do I Need a Desktop Program?” in https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/do-i-still-need-desktop-genealogy.html
10:34:44 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : I’m not sure what info is shown to everyone when uploading DNA to WikiTree — can someone explain the process and what info is shown to all?
10:34:47 From Geoff Mulholland: I can see DearMYRTLE’s Player Family [Virtual] Cemetery by viewing the DearMYRTLE Profile page even on the new site
10:35:19 From Randy Seaver: Or a discussion of accessing Land Records using FamilySearch digital microfilm – I wrote https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/finding-thomas-graves-land-records-in.html last week
10:39:25 From Deb Andrew : I think you can link it to Gedmatch.com
10:42:12 From Randy Seaver : Linda, I also added links to my autosomal DNA tests on Ancestry, 23andMe, FTDNA and GEDMatch.
10:42:29 From Deb Andrew : You can link your DNA results to Wiki Tree to Gedmatch.
10:44:33 From Hilary Gadsby : The map search in 1939 register works well if you put in enough information
10:56:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Facebook groups can have lots of photographs but not always sure that they are all free to use
10:57:09 From Amy Woods Butler : I have clients draw a map of the important places in their home town, like the walk to school, movie theater, church, etc.
10:59:36 From Deb Andrew : Go back a little to Wiki Tree, if you say where you tested and have a kit number from Gedmatch, it will show your Wiki Tree. You do need to select under settings to display with an alias and show other choices, but you do need to check it for it to link.

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IMAGE: By Valentines Series – old postcard, Public Domain, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=4183216

11:00:23 From Karen Trearchis : I been to Victoria station back in 1971.
11:01:33 From Karen Trearchis : I wonder what it Victoria Station looked like in 1971, I don’t remember.

11:05:36 From Cousin Russ : From Tony Proctor — The automatic changing of, say, ancestry.co.uk to ancestry.com, is a country-based redirection, often called “geo redirection”. If you’re in the US then it assumes you want the US site — not a wise decision where genealogy is concerned. When I visit findmypast.co.uk when I’m resident in Ireland then it at least asks me to confirm whether I want the UK or IE site. You’ll find google.com does a redirection and it can be very frustrating when you’re travelling. However, they have an option you can add to the URL to prevent it: http://www.google.com/ncr where the “ncr” stands for “no country redirect”. It is possible to fake your country (using a proxy to set a different IP address) but it’s too complicated and messy for most of us. Genealogy sites that do this need to think about providing an override, or just not doing it at all.

11:10:22 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Myrt: Canadians (and .ca) are usually friendlier and accommodating 🙂
11:11:18 From DearMYRTLE : 🙂
11:13:14 From June Butka : It did not redirect me. I used chrome and ancestry.ca.
11:14:03 From Michelle Minner to All panelists : Windows 10 – using Chrome…I was able to go to Ancestry.ca
11:14:12 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Could be going by your ISP number
11:14:38 From Deb Andrew : I used Firefox, Windows 10 and it went to Ancestry CA
11:14:52 From Barbara Gressel : I have an Ancestry world membership and it just takes me right to the other country. I don’t get the sign-in screen.
11:15:10 From Geoff Mulholland : I always have this problem with Ancestry, being forced to Ancestry.de , sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, I try to use a VPN, and even that does not always work, but mostly helps
11:15:12 From June Butka : Go to History the the menu, then clear all
11:15:27 From June Butka : Left of setting the lines
11:16:06 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : More tools, then you find it there (Chrome)
11:16:17 From June Butka : Click the history afterwards go to the left of the page to the lines drop down
11:16:30 From Jackie Wilson : Under advanced/privacy & security – the last item is “clear browsing data.
11:16:46 From June Butka : Click history not that drop down
11:17:15 From Jackie Wilson : Click on the arrow and it will have clear data button
11:17:29 From June Butka : Same here Hilary.
11:17:30 From Barbara Gressel : I”m on Chrome with Windows 10 and it works fine for me also.
11:17:38 From Randy Seaver : you know, some things are tech-proof…
11:20:45 From Deb Andrew : You need to sign in.
11:20:54 From Michelle Minner Look at that line that tells you that it will redirect in 10 seconds…!!!!! you waited too long to click anything.
11:21:28 From Karen Trearchis : I was able to get to ancestry.ca & uk using my browser Safari.
11:22:21 From Paprika Peppercorn to All panelists : I went to ancestry.ca and a pop up window advised me to not go to Ancestry.ca but to go to ancestry.com but, allowed me to go to ancestry.ca
11:22:37 From Karen Trearchis : My findmypast shows the same screen as Pat.

11:23:05 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s Accessing Land Records using FamilySearch digital 

masslr-07microfilm – https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/finding-thomas-graves-land-records-in.html

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: How did Randy get to this image when the record set has not gone through FamilySearch Indexing? You’ll want to follow his screen shots and step-by-step directions for navigating such a record set.

11:24:28 From Karen Trearchis : I just got on Findmypast.co.uk
11:25:22 From Jackie Wilson : I entered ancestry.ca and logged in and stayed in Canada! Using google chrome

11:28:35 From Tony Proctor: Re: 1911 census, best not to search their ‘census’ category (too general). Select ‘Search A-Z of Record sets’, type 1911 and select the census option. Street address was ‘Fairholme Terrace’, County Nottinghamshire, Surname: Bradbury

UK VERSION https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1911/RG14/20577/0351&parentid=GBC/1911/RG14/20577/0351/1

US Version https://search.findmypast.com/record?id=GBC/1911/RG14/20577/0351&parentid=GBC/1911/RG14/20577/0351/1

Tony Proctor, you will be happy to note BOTH the US and UK versions of the 1911 England/Wales census on FindMyPast have links to the Enumerator’s Summary Book Images (RG 78). A month ago “related images” were not available via the US site as we had sadly discovered and discussed during Mondays with Myrt.

11:31:58 From June Butka : I’ve been using the Catalog. There are almost new images weekly. I know that a birth record from two weeks ago I had to go the the FHL. This week it was available on line via the catalog.

11:32:10 From Karen Trearchis : thanks Randy.
11:35:27 From June Butka : https://damegussie.wordpress.com/2018/04/15/mayflower-serendipity-part-2/
11:39:13 From June Butka : Thank you.
11:39:33 From June Butka : Delayed entry birth record.
11:39:47 From Cousin Russ : Julie Cahill Tarr http://genealogy.julietarr.com/blog/familysearch-fhl-catalog-ask-you-shall-receive/
11:43:39 From June Butka : I’m seeing the screen.
11:45:04 From June Butka : Well done all. Thank you.
11:45:10 From Cousin Russ : Our conversation continues in the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community — https://plus.google.com/b/104046972028906209620/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/EDTWqeemuXb
11:45:16 From Randy Seaver : so “Online” does not include the digitized records not on the Historical Record Collections list?
11:46:25 From Randy Seaver : Um, that was poorly worded. “Online” does not include the digitized microfilm in the Catalog that are not yet in Historical Record Collections.
11:46:44 From Cousin Russ : WHERE are DearMYRTLE’s Webinars archived? At MYRT’S MUSINGS http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/blog/
11:48:46 From Geoff Mulholland : Thank you


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