We’re stepping things up a notch and adding a second session nearly every month to the AmericaGen Study Group. Our adjusted schedule will be as follows:
Wednesday, June 27, 2018 Chapter 5 Libraries and the National Archives NARA
Wednesday, July 11, 2018 Chapter 6 Reference Works
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Chapter 7 Organizing and Evaluating Your Research Findings
Wednesday, August 15, 2018 Chapter 8 Successful Correspondence
Wednesday, August 29, 2018 Chapter 9 Computer Technology and Family History Skip session – Unlock the Past Alaska Cruise
Wednesday, September 26, 2018 Chapter 10 Family History on the Internet
Wednesday, October 17, 2018 Chapter 11 Family History: Going Beyond Genealogy
Wednesday, October 31, 2018 Chapter 12 Compiled Sources & Newspapers
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 Chapter 13 Vital Records
Wednesday, November 28, 2018 Chapter 14 Census Returns
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 Chapter 15 Using Census Records in Your Research
Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Chapter 16 Understanding Probate Records & Legal Terminology
Wednesday, January 23, 2019 Chapter 17 What About Wills?
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 Chapter 18 The Intestate, Miscellaneous Probate Records and Guardianships Skip Session – RootsTech 2019
Wednesday, March 13, 2019 Chapter 19 Local Land Records
Wednesday, March 27, 2019 Chapter 20 Abstracting Probate and Land Records
Wednesday, April 10, 2019 Chapter 21 Abstracting Probate and Land Records
Wednesday, April 24, 2019 Chapter 22 Court Records and Family History
Wednesday, May 15, 2019 Chapter 23 Property Rights of Women as a Consideration
Wednesday, May 22, 2019 Chapter 24 Church Records and Family History
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 Chapter 25 Immigrant Origins: American Finding Aids
Wednesday, June 26, 2019 Chapter 26 Military Records: Colonial Wars and the American Revolution
Wednesday, July 10, 2019 Chapter 27 Military Records: After the Revolution
Wednesday, July 31, 2019 Chapter 28 Cemetery and Burial Records
NOTICE Due to copyright restrictions, panel participants have been instructed to write about one part of the chapter that “speaks to” them. Examples are from their own research. When quoting the author, Val D. Greenwood, panelists will merely incorporate a sentence or two in their homework.
All panelists have viewed The Legal Genealogist Judy Russell’s interview with DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ located here: https://youtu.be/uFpET_NWFeU
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Amazon: I periodically use and clearly label affiliate links and advertising for Amazon on this blog and other blogs and websites I own. I receive compensation for sales made through these links to Amazon.
AncestorSync: I have received a complimentary copy of AncestorSync no longer in production.
Ancestry.com: I have attended various blogger day events which have included compensation for travel and meal expenses; I have attended various events at genealogy conferences (by invitation) which included free meals and free copies of Family Tree Maker software as well as logo ware (promotion items with the Ancestry.com logo).
BetterGEDCOM I participated as a co-founder and volunteer organizer at BetterGEDCOM. I received no income from this association. I funded the chat room, advanced wikispaces account, and usually hosted a developers meeting weekly using my personal GoToWebinar.com account. I elected to take emeritus status, and the group has morphed into FHISO.org.
DropBox – My articles about Dropbox.com include a referral link, and have explained that an individual’s Dropbox space can be expanded up to 16GB of space as we refer friends.
Family History Expos: I have been named a Blogger of Honor by Family History Expos and/or have presented as a speaker for various events including the Arizona, Utah and Georgia. In exchange, I receive complimentary registration, complimentary wi-fi access, complimentary banquet or event admission, as well as complimentary promotional gift items. However, I was not otherwise paid for my presentations or participation in the Blogger of Honor space in the exhibit hall.
FamilySearch: I have attended various events at genealogy conferences (by invitation) which included transportation, accommodations, meals and free FamilySearch logo promotional items. In addition, I attended the Family Search Bloggers Day on October 21, 2010 and I was compensated for transportation, hotel accommodations and meals. And I have been designated a RootsTech Official Blogger for 2011, 2012, 2013 and 2014, and official Ambassador in 2015-2018, which entitled me to free registration, free ethernet connection to the web, use of audio and video recording space during the conference when available. I am a member of the LDS Church, but do not consider this a conflict of interest.
FamilyTreeWebinars.com: I have given a variety of webinars for this website and received a speaker’s honorarium. In addition there are monthly residuals based on the number of times these webinars were viewed after the live event.
Federation of Genealogical Societies:As a 2011 FGS Conference Official Blogger, I received press credentials and free conference pass. All other expenses of travel, hotel and meals remain my personal responsibility.
FindMyPast.com had given me complimentary access to its website from time to time. I currently have a paid access account.
Footnote.com now called Fold3.com I occasionally use labeled affiliate links and advertising for Footnote on this blog and other blogs and websites I own. I receive compensation for sales made through these links to Fold3.
Genealogical Publishing Company: I receive complimentary copies of books and other items for review. I keep the items for personal use or I will often donate them to local or regional libraries for their non-circulating genealogy departments, or to genealogical societies as door prizes.
GenealogyBank: I have used labeled affiliate links and advertising for GenealogyBank on this blog. I receive compensation for sales made through these links to GenealogyBank, but I pay for my membership access to this service.
GeneaWebinars:I set up this .com website to point to the blog, created the Google calendar and invite all known webinar hosts and virtual presenters to have author rights to the blog and admin rights to the calendar. This effort costs me about $20 annually.
Geni.com I have received a complimentary pro membership to Geni.com from time to time.
Legacy Family Tree: I have received complimentary copies of software and training materials. I also have produced several webinars for which I have been compensated via speakers fees and recording royalties.
MyHeritage.com I previously received complimentary membership to MyHeritage.com, though now I have a free LDS account with this service.
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RootsMagic: I have received free copies of software on various occasions.
Second Life: I am a dues paying member of SecondLife.com, at this this site offering free and paid access to this virtual reality space. As the owner of the Just Genealogy area, I pay for the land (about $75 monthly) and advertising. I have created both meeting and display space for hosting genealogy meetings throughout the week. I do receive rental income from those who use cottages in Just Genealogy. Income just covers my expenses. I also have built on land in the LDS area known as the Family History Centre, where there are links to FamilySearch.org record collections. I have permission to host weekly meetings at the Centre.
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WikiTree: I have received a complimentary access to WikiTree, and have experimented with the newly emerging WikiTree photo pedigrees.
WorldVitalRecords: I have an affiliate relationship with this website, and have been provided complimentary access to the site.
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Updated 21 May 2018
DearMYRTLE’s very distant Cousin, Sweet Sadie, joins Cousin Russ in hosting this webinar as we look at various search strategies including the following websites:
The concept for searching a database for all possible ancestors, since you’ve worked hard to get the citation perfected. Then it is just a matter of copy/paste and a tweak to include the correct name for the ancestor in question.
19:00:41 From Debi Polen : Hello!
19:02:17 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
19:05:28 From shelleymurphy : Good evening all!
MULTIPLE MONITORS, MULTIPLE WEBSITES OPEN
19:07:40 From shelleymurphy : I typically have ancestry and familysearch both open when I am researching.
19:07:49 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi, Debi and Shelley!
19:10:28 From Molly : I like to have my genealogy database open, Familysearch and Ancestry. This helps me switch back and forth; if the question is not answered with one, I try the other.
19:17:53 From Dustin Austin : Yes – I believe it should! Follow the FAN
19:18:09 From Debi Polen : My DB has FAN Club members too
19:18:45 From Dustin Austin to All panelists : It REALLY Helps with DNA matching as well!
19:22:57 From shelleymurphy : Same here Molly!
19:24:34 From Susan Bleimehl : I don’t know what military unit my father served with in WWII and I have no papers from him, but in his best buddy’s obituary, whom we vacationed with as children, had a memtion of what unit he served with. Since they met in the service, I am assuming they were in the same unit and am currently persuing this line of inquiry. Without searching the FAN club and having him in my tree as a person of interest, I’d still be in the dark about a possible service unit for my dad.
IMAGE: Robert Kehrer, Finding Elusive Records in FamilySearch, YouTube video, (https://youtu.be/Rn2VY-wSfkw : viewed 29 Jan 2018) Includes the following three segments with insightful search strategies. Robert is the program manager for FamilySearch “Search” and “Hint” features.
19:29:24 From Molly : By doing that, putting in Florida, United States, I found the death certificates for 1905-1939! There were browsable and I found my grandparents’ death certificates. It was a lot of work, but so much worth the time.
19:49:19 From shelleymurphy : Wow! two different records on the same day.
19:51:12 From shelleymurphy : Wow……wow…okay he made it out. whew.
19:52:01 From Debi Polen : Fold3’s search is not as robust in alternate spellings as Family Search / Ancestry
19:55:19 From shelleymurphy : I use fold3 all the time
To answer Susan Bleimehl’s question about finding military records, Sweet Sadie recommends:
20:02:33 From Cousin Russ : Jennifer Holik’s WWII Education Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/wwiieducation/?ref=br_rs
20:02:40 From Cousin Russ : Jennifer Holik’s WWI Books at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jennifer+holik
20:03:39 From Susan Bleimehl : Thanks, I’ll pursue those items.
20:04:04 From Deb : Her guy found the morning reports for my dad.
20:04:07 From Sherry Wilmes : Last week at NARA Washington, DC, there were more than 120 pages for my 3x grandfather and grandmother I payroll cards and pension file, The Innovation Hub scanning process will give my family an online record each can use to examine their story! I learned about that from Dear Myrtle and Cousin Russ. Thanks again to you and NARA!
Family Tree LIVE in April 2019 in London at the Alexandra Palace
Randy Seaver’s mother’s high school records
The Ancestry search problem announcement
The 23andMe vs. Ancestry lawsuit
Thomas Jones 150 years of probate and and Elizabeth Shown Mills 20104 soldiers in the same unit – to identify men with the same name
Desktop family tree software vs. online trees
Prioritizing which genealogy conference, show, institute or classes to attend
00:56:19 Bill West: Goood morning from not quite sunny southeastern Massachusetts!
00:57:01 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
01:10:39 Jacqueline Wilson: I just signed up for that!
01:10:47 Cousin Russ: https://virtualgensoc.com/
01:11:01 Randy Seaver: I joined too
01:11:54 Yvonne Demoskoff: I joined too, Randy; looking forward to it.
01:12:18 Cousin Russ: http://www.thegenealogyshow.uk/
01:12:33 Randy Seaver: I think I read that VGS webinars would be available to members for 6 months after the live talk.
01:13:50 Dave Robison: I would like to suggest that any purchases made at Amazon, use the URL http://www.smile.amazon.com. You’ll still sign into your own account but a small % of every purchase will be given to the charity of your choice.
01:15:29 Cousin Russ: https://www.family-tree.co.uk/news-and-views/new-uk-family-history-show-family-tree-live
01:17:04 Randy Seaver: so we all could have a two month visit to the UK and go to both of them. Maybe someone could sponsor a genealogy cruise in between the two conferences.
01:17:52 Liv Christensen: I hope to go with a group of Norwegian genealogists.
01:18:31 Cousin Russ: Betty Carringer’s School Recordshttps://www.geneamusings.com/2018/05/treasure-chest-tuesday-betty-carringers.html
01:18:56 Hilary Gadsby: Would be great to meet you again Liv
01:19:04 Melinda Culpon: Trying to get my Brummie friend to meet me in Birmingham next year.
01:19:45 Hilary Gadsby: That would be great Melinda
01:19:49 Dave Robison: The Museum of Springfield History and Archives has a massive collection of school records from all Springfield, Mass schools from about 1895 to 1940.
01:23:05 Pat Kuhn: had Latin 1 year, hated it!!!
01:23:48 Hilary Gadsby: I have some of my mother’s reports
01:24:21 Jacqueline Wilson: Random acts of kindness!
01:24:26 Pat Kuhn: I have one for my mother and one for my father
01:25:17 Randy Seaver: https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/05/ancestrycom-says-they-will-work-on.html
01:27:42 Yvonne Demoskoff: One of the issues I’ve had lately with Ancestry is when I search for someone I get very few (say only a dozen or so) results. I used to get 100s before this problem came up.
01:29:39 Yvonne Demoskoff: And the results or matches aren’t any more relevant than they used to be.
01:31:31 Molly McKinley: Great advice.
01:32:52 Jacqueline Wilson: The book [ProfGen: PPS] is out of stock & will be available on May 16! It sold out!!!!!
01:36:02 Robbin Smith: Mine is being delivered today
01:38:52 Robbin Smith: I dislike those kinds of “photos” too
01:42:44 Shelley Murphy: yes
01:43:17 Shelley Murphy: I believe it’s a very valid point
01:43:24 Robbin Smith: ok by me
Forensic Genealogist CeCe Moore partnered with a company to work with law enforcement.
01:43:45 Shelley Murphy: CeCe opened another company
01:43:54 Karen Trearchis: I think it was a good use to the database. I am glad they caught the man.
01:45:15 Rebecca Williams: My opinion: If you put your information on an open public website, then you shouldn’t be upset. Law enforcement has used DNA since around 1988.
01:45:36 Shelley Murphy: she posted on Facebook about it
01:46:33 Robbin Smith: I agree with Rebecca
01:46:52 Robbin Smith: i would object if they got the DNA match thru the private companies
01:47:01 Jacqueline Wilson: I am sooooo sorry to hear about your family member. Hoping for a quick recovery
01:47:32 Randy Seaver: Parabon – https://www.parabon-nanolabs.com/nanolabs/news-events/2018/05/parabon-snapshot-genetic-genealogy-dna-analysis-service.html
01:47:37 Jacqueline Wilson: Yeah for decluttering!!!
01:47:40 Linda Stufflebean: My son was born in CA in 1988 – yesterday I saw a story online that CA has taken DNA swabs from infants born there since 1983 and parents were told. I don’t ever remember hearing about it and the DNA is stored in a database.
01:47:54 Karen Trearchis: I am very sorry to learn about your family member.
01:54:35 Jacqueline Wilson: It was live-streamed, so I got to see it!
02:00:19 Jacqueline Wilson: Will Legacy talk to Ancestry? NOTE: Family Tree Maker and RootsMagic are the only programs that can perform a data/image sync between an Ancestry Member Tree and the desktop version of the software programs. Legacy can indicate hints for various websites.
02:00:43 Bill West: Being paranoid, I keep a RM database on my computer in case I lose internet access. And I keep online trees in case my hard drive goes kaput.
02:02:38 Randy Seaver: The most pertinent article I’ve written about having genealogy software vs. online trees is probably at https://www.geneamusings.com/2015/11/dear-randy-why-buy-genealogy-software.html
02:05:24 Randy Seaver: Jacqueline, Legacy Family Tree will be able to talk to your MyHeritage tree soon. Gilad’s webinar last week was excellent.
02:07:18 Hilary Gadsby: I have several programs on my PC but that is because I like different features from each of them. My main program does not sync with any online tree but does find hints if I want them.
Deciding to go to a genealogy class, conference or institute is based on the following factors, different for each individual.
Proximity to one’s residence
Time of year with regard to family and work requirements
Proximity to an ancestral place of research
RootsTech (go there at least once)
Institutes offer a week of instructor-led course study, frequently with homework,
02:14:08 Hilary Gadsby: I have decided not to go to RootsTech next year as I am expecting to meet up with many of them in the UK events. I may go in 2020 however. I am going to Guild conference as well next year as it is 40th anniversary and in an area where I can stay and do research.
02:14:40 Hilary Gadsby: By them I mean friends.
02:15:07 Melinda Culpon: In my opinion I think those of you who were “covering” the conference had a different experience than just attending RootsTech. But yes I am more of a student
02:16:28 Randy Seaver: My time balance also includes the life situations I have – my Linda has mobility and memory problems and it’s hard to find things for her to do. Parties at the conference now become a feature.
02:16:48 Hilary Gadsby: I have attended RootsTech twice and had similar experience although slightly busier this last time.
02:16:49 Yvonne Demoskoff: I went to my first NGS conference in 2013 because of the quality of speakers, in particular ESM and Thomas Jones.
02:18:50 Randy Seaver: When we went to NGS and FGS in past years, I tried to also visit genealogy repositories and ancestry places
02:19:13 Cathy Naborowski: RootsTech is just too big for me. I like the size of NGS. But everyone should do RootsTech at least once.
02:20:57 Jacqueline Wilson: Randy: Hostler?
02:23:16 Randy Seaver: Jackie – maybe. At the Inn, he managed the horses – watering, feeding, cooling, washing, hitching up, etc. At 15 years old. He ended up being a horse trader later inl ife.
02:23:44 Karen Trearchis: I attend NERGC, New England Regional Genealogical conference.every 2 years & have been going since 2005. I love the excitement, the vending hall, work at our society’s booth. attending workshops in the Vendor Hall & classes. I went to FGS Springfield, Ill. I attended the great classes for society building! Love it and attended classes and enjoyed visiting an area I never been before. I am going to attend FGS19 in Washington,DC. My son is now living in Alexandria, VA. I want to go to the National Archives, too. So far I have not been able to go to Rootstech because of the expense, from the east coast, hotels,food. Maybe someday.
02:24:18 Hilary Gadsby: We call them Ostler in England
02:25:04 Randy Seaver: Hilary: I didn’t know that! Some of my Vaux relatives in Somerset married Ostler.
02:26:20 Jacqueline Wilson: I sometimes pick the conference I go to by location – if it is someplace I have never been before – just so I can play tourist.
02:26:44 Cousin Russ: The conversation continues — https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/7h4UxuPC1Wk
02:26:45 Hilary Gadsby: My husband has an Ostler in Norwich.
02:27:54 Jacqueline Wilson: Thank you for doing this!!!!!