This poignant webinar features Jennifer Holik discussing Army and Army Air Force morning reports. Jennifer is a researcher, speaker, author, empath, and medium. She helps people find the answers to their family history and military questions. She offers expert, custom, and confidential World War I,World War II,Korean War, and Vietnam historical and genealogical research, analysis, and writing services.To learn more visit the WWII Research and Writing Center http://wwiirwc.com
19:03:57 From Betty-Lu Burton : I have a cousin who died in France […] right now I am going through some things. I have found his grave. 19:04:28 From Molly McKinley : My 2nd cousin got frostbitten ears in Italy during WWII
19:17:46 From Shelley Murphy : I enjoy the photos – one of my relatives died during a bombing raid on Meresburg, Germany.
19:20:21 From Shelley Murphy : He is buried in the American Cemetery overseas, he was left overseas. But his grave was adopted by now a family frien
19:25:55 From Sue Draper : My uncle was in the Navy in the Pacific; my dad was in Italy (Army Air Force) working on radio installments before D-day. Would there be morning reports for their stations? 19:28:27 From Betty-Lu Burton : Would there be morning reports for Naval bases? My father was station in Hawaii, on land not on a ship.
Jennifer Holik writes about alternative record sets:
For those researching US Navy, the Naval Muster Rolls are available, some on Ancestry or Fold3. Some records did not survive the war.
Marine Corps Muster Rolls are on Ancestry. Only Jan/April/July/Oct are indexed, although all months exist online. You’ll go into the dropdown menu and select other rolls to find the next month and your unit.
19:29:38 From Sue Draper : What is the abbreviation Dy to MIA or Dy 745?
19:30:53 From True Lewis : MOS = Military Occupational Specialty. For Army it was CQ = Charge of Quarters Report Log.
19:36:55 From Cheri Passey : My grandfather was killed on Peleliu, one brother killed in Italy and another killed when his plane went down off of Sicily. Would love to find morning reports for their units.
19:38:10 From Shelley Murphy : that is so true.
19:41:57 From Sue Draper : love the map! nice drawing
19:45:16 From Sue Draper : Why restricted?
19:45:49 From Cheri Passey : That’s incredible! Really helps to put yourself in the moment with them!
19:47:49 From True Lewis : I’m just so excited to find out Daddy’s experience and compare it to what he told me about WW2 and as a Colored Troop you rarely hear their Stories in the moment like this! WoW! He was always animated when he talked about his experience like it was yesterday. 19:51:17 From True Lewis : These Reports look like the meat on the bones beside a personal soldier account. Very detailed.
19:51:40 From Shelley Murphy : They are @True
19:54:22 From Shelley Murphy : @True they didn’t know my family was “colored”, he was a radio gunner in a plane.
Jennifer Holik follows up by saying “Research in Morning Reports is the same for Colored Soldiers and Women as it is for men. Often people think because they were segregated, the Colored Soldier research is different, but it isn’t.”
19:55:17 From True Lewis : WoW ! Shelley. These Military Stories are Incredible.
19:55:28 From True Lewis : I know. I am so PROUD of Cousin Russ, for sharing!
19:55:48 From Shelley Murphy : Cousin Russ thank you for that!
19:57:54 From Rose Mazza : I had a uncle who was a POW was there any morning reports on that to.
20:04:22 From Kathleen Kelly Daetsch : I have a diary of a POW. It has pictures.
20:04:23 From Shelley Murphy : amazing! Cousin Russ
20:09:16 From Shelley Murphy : Oh, I would love to travel to where Calvin was stationed and died.
20:09:32 From True Lewis : Shelley don’t make me cry…..
20:10:24 From Shelley Murphy : Yes, the Germans picked up his body parts from the plane crash, etc. They wrote a record on the bodies, etc.
20:13:26 From Shelley Murphy : Museum’s for units
20:15:18 From Shelley Murphy : Thank you! Enjoyed it
20:15:48 From True Lewis : Thank YOU so Enjoyed!!!!!!! I can’t wait to get a consultation!
20:18:12 From True Lewis : I’ll let her know.
09:51:26 From Shelley Murphy : Good afternoon!
10:01:06 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group tackles Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.)
10:01:33 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
10:05:16 From Melissa Barker : Hello All, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is in the house!
10:06:32 From Molly McKinley : Geocities website..yes all gone now…
10:07:20 From Cousin Russ : How-to quickly convert Gmail email into PDF https://blog.timesunion.com/tech/2359/how-to-quickly-convert-gmail-email-into-pdf/
10:07:23 From marian koalski : What do you do when a message refers to more than one relative?
10:08:09 From marian koalski : I should have said, “How do you name the PDF” when it refers to more than one relative?
10:09:52 From marian koalski : I’m facing the question with Aunt Pearl’s letters from 1976
10:10:11 From Molly McKinley : I found some 1998 AOL forum notes…fun to read but did not help much.
10:10:24 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : So is the item an EVENT on the ancestor’s time line?
10:10:26 From Melinda Culpon : I handle multiple by duplicating the information – can name it for each
10:10:48 From Rebecca Williams : You could save the pdf more than once, into each family it refers to.
10:11:41 From Shelley Murphy : I would probably put it under notes and questions, but it could have its own line with the date received depends on the info received. great question.
10:11:46 From marian koalski : I finally have settled on one name for each message but linking to it from citations on all those people
10:13:56 From Cyndy Bray : If you forward email to Evernote, does the attachment go with it?
10:14:41 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericanGen Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” Homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/16SWjVvGi0fQwLmoldMl2YrI70k5Fz90E/view?usp=sharing
10:14:55 From Danine Cozzens : Thanks, Russ!
10:16:29 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Facebook and message board posts also come to mind. (In lieu of handwritten correspondence.)
10:18:56 From Shelley Murphy : the glasses are interesting to pose for a picture
10:37:52 From Shelley Murphy : they don’t do it anymore but I using social media is probably on the table
10:38:14 From Launa Droescher : I have the spelling book from that set that my father gave me years ago. My children kept trying to run off with it.
10:42:10 From Melissa Barker : Be nice to archivists, be specific please.
10:43:48 From Maria Tegtmeier : Any suggestions on corresponding with foreign genealogical societies or archives?
10:44:41 From Cary Bright : I have trouble with citations from things I request copies of. I include the request that they include the roll or book, newspaper, But rarely get all the specifics like page number, col number etc. You think when you pay for something you could get it! Thanks to the volunteers who run these programs, but please go the extra mile with ESM type citation info. I can format it!!
10:44:42 From Valerie Lisk : I have used the online request form and sent a prepaid snailmail request with an SASE to a particular county library, only to recieve a response when I made a phone call.
10:46:13 From marian koalski : See FamilySearch Wiki’s word list for other countries, like Poland Word List. Frequently it will have a sample letter form
10:47:33 From Cousin Russ : Letter Writing Guide for Genealogy https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Letter_Writing_Guide_for_Genealogy
10:48:07 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Great fix Cheri… fill in the blank!
10:49:21 From Leah Smith : I use Google Translate to help with Polish language and then try to have someone from a Polish genealogy group review. Concise language, and good etiquette are important. I find sometimes charts can be valuable. [ See Google Translate: https://translate.google.com ]
10:49:55 From Valerie Lisk : When I make a request from an online index, I cite the information on the index.
10:51:06 From Melinda Culpon : Once again – older genealogy books can show how to request information. I know I have found older Czech research books are still valid sources
10:54:00 From Shelley Murphy : twitter too
10:55:22 From Melissa Barker : Be consistent!
10:56:57 From DearMYRTLE: Include names, dates, places in your queries.
10:56:57 From Maria Tegtmeier : Sometimes I do a “screenshot” when I need to save something that I have on my phone screen. This might work for twitter.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was provided by Alan Phillips who sponsors Unlock the Past Cruises for genealogists. Mr. Myrt and I will attend this all day pre-cruise conference in person Seattle before we board ship for our Alaska adventure. Now non-travelers may attend the pre-cruise conference virtually.
Unlock the Past in Seattle with Blaine Bettinger and Maurice Gleeson LIVESTREAM
DNA | Irish research | Genealogy and the Little Ice Age | The hidden web: digging deeper
Adelaide, South Australia, 14 August 2018 – Unlock the Past Cruises announces that the Unlock the Past in Seattle full-day two-stream conference (previously announced) will now also be available to watch live online – and for a limited time after as a series of 10 recorded webinars.
Date & time: Thursday 6 September 2018, 9am-5pm (Pacific Daylight Time)
– watch in your own home – from anywhere in the world
– attend in person at Seattle Public Library, 1000 4th Ave, Seattle, WA
live stream tv music or video button icon or sign live on air broadcasting movie or radio program
– US$65 – Unlock the Past in Seattle Livestream
– US$45 – attend in-person at Seattle Public Library, 1000 4th Ave, Seattle, WA
– US$20 – upgrade from in-person attendance to add access all 10 recorded sessions after
Theprogram will feature 10 presentations in two streams – a DNA stream and an Irish/general stream
BLAINE BETTINGER (USA) – Blaine is a professional genealogist specialising in DNA evidence. He is the author of the long-running blog The Genetic Genealogist and the books The family tree guide to DNA testing and Genetic genealogy.
DR MAURICE GLEESON (UK) – Maurice was voted Genetic Genealogist of the Year 2015 (SurnameDNA Journal) and Rockstar Genealogist, Ireland 2016 (Anglo-Celtic Connections). He runs a variety of Y-DNA Surname projects and organises the DNA Lectures at Genetic Genealogy Ireland.
CYNDI INGLE (USA) – Cyndi is the creator and owner of the award-winning web site Cyndi’s List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet cyndislist.com, a categorised index to more than 333,000 online resources. In its first three years, Cyndi’s List was voted the best genealogy site.
WAYNE SHEPHEARD (Canada) – A retired geologist, Wayne now spends most of his time on family history research. This has resulted in the pioneering publication Surviving Mother Nature’s tests: The effects climate change and other natural phenomena have had on the lives of our ancestors.
About Unlock the Past
Australian based Unlock the Past was established in 2009. It is the event and publishing division of Gould Genealogy & History which has served family and local historians since 1976. It is a collaborative venture involving an international team of expert speakers, writers, organisations and commercial partners to promote history and genealogy through innovative major events and a new publishing brand. It also maintains general and events directories online. Since 2010 Unlock the Past has run over 130 events, including expos, roadshows, regional seminars, history and genealogy cruises around the world – even Australia’s first ever battlefield tour. They’ve published over 100 guide books and handy guides for researchers, all of them offered in print and ebook editions.
Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson (Ol’ Myrt received hers as she was typing this post. YAY!)
More to the Fudge family photos story
Randy’s family photos – let’s remember to take them. (Ol’ Myrt had a big family gathering yesterday and totally forgot to take a single shot.)
Ireland Valuation Books Translator
Accessing digital land records at FamilySearch that are not indexed with Randy Seaver’s best advice.
Wisconsin Area Research Centers
10:01:14 From John Laws : Good to be with you guys from a wet Scotland
10:01:17 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : Good Morning to all from HOT California.
10:01:48 From Graham Walter : Overcast but dry down near London
10:01:58 From Cousin Russ : From Dick Eastman’s blog “A Fort Wayne, Indiana, City Councilman Proposes Eliminating the Annual Budget for the Allen County Public Library” https://blog.eogn.com/2018/08/13/a-fort-wayne-indiana-city-councilman-proposes-eliminating-the-annual-budget-for-the-allen-county-public-library/amp/
10:02:11 From Marian Koalski : Whoa!
10:02:38 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ. Ask the downtown hotels and restaurants.
10:03:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Does he not realize how many dollars they receive in people visiting the library? I am sure it is more then the annual budget
10:03:28 From Deb Andrew : They tried to do that here, did it for awhile, closed several branches. Then they had to reopen them all over again and buy new books.
10:03:31 From Cousin Russ : Federation of Genealogy Societies https://www.fgsconference.org
10:03:44 From Marian Koalski : The councilman is obviously not in touch with how much internet access the library provides to the public, including e-book borrowings.
10:03:53 From Abbie McDonough : My local library is not just used for reading. For example I go to craft meetings at my local library.
10:04:26 From Barbara LaMarche : Indiana has always been one of the most “Genea” friendly states.
10:04:40 From Marcia Philbrick : There are other public libraries encountering this exact same issue — do away with the annual budget. Even though these aren’t major genealogical libraries, they still likely have resources that genealogists rely on.
10:06:35 From Marian Koalski : Around here, the library is where we meet for book groups, kids’ classes in STEM, computer clubs, genealogy clubs, art displays, musical performances….
10:06:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : My local library provides many activities for children to help with learning and social skills
10:07:28 From Bill West : We had a similiar situation here. Someone wanted to reduce the library budget because “nobody reads anymore” The budget was kept the same and the town has built a new library,
10:08:29 From Marian Koalski : Who is the councilman’s opponent in the upcoming elections?
10:08:32 From Gloria Deison : My local library holds the historical town archive! (morning / evening all!)
10:08:51 From bobbi to All panelists : maybe this was good timing. they can make their presence known.
10:09:09 From Valerie Lisk to All panelists : MAAGI meets at Allen County annually. [Midwest African American Genealogy Institute]
10:09:55 From Yvonne Demoskoff : As an example, when my husband and I were in SLC this February for RootsTech, we spent money locally at restaurants, the mall, souvenirs, and at the planetarium
10:10:11 From Rachel Evans : They don’t understand people are on fixed incomes and can’t afford to buy books on Amazon. My mother is and she is at the library several times a week to get books.
10:10:12 From Hilary Gadsby : Too many small libraries get closed. We will end up with no place to find the recrds if this was to happen.
10:10:55 From Marian Koalski : I suppose that libraries could be viewed as subversive if politicians are afraid of having citizens talk to each other.
10:11:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : The best way is to show them that the library is more than just a book depository and can provide customers to local businesses
10:11:07 From Hilary Gadsby : Our libraries hold a lot more than books.
10:11:24 From Michelle Minner : Unfortunately I don’t think that people that live outside of the local area would have any “say” or vote in the issue. It has to be a community effort…and it has to be a grass roots activism (in my opinion)
10:13:37 From Marian Koalski : Dollars from outside of Allen County could be a form of activism.
10:14:00 From Bill West : One likes to think logic would prevailabout the library, but given recent history I am aconcerned.
10:14:44 From Melissa Barker : I am here listening in but have a cold, home from work.
10:15:07 From Marian Koalski : Remember gifts to local libraries when you write obituaries.
10:15:08 From Betty-Lu Burton : Melissa get better soon.
10:16:30 From Dave Robison : Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson
10:31:03 From Marian Koalski : We need someone who is the Professional Photo Reminder in the family, who will interrupt when needed to get it done.
10:32:03 From Cousin Russ : Land records – “Finding David Auble’s Land Records in Sussex County, New Jersey” by Randy Seaverhttps://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/finding-david-aubles-land-records-in.html
10:33:12 From Doris Haskell : I have found great treasures in land records. Surprises. Been thinking about getting back into them again.
10:33:27 From Michelle Minner : Thank you, Randy! woo hoo! I am going to search the catalog for land records for my family! WOW
10:34:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : I found my 2 great grandfather’s estate packet recently on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the estate records only mentioned his second family and nothing about his first family. I come through the oldest daughter of the first family. Granted by the time he died all his children from the first family had married and had children of their own.
10:36:47 From John Laws : From an Will for my grandfather published in South Africa as he was the director in the London Office of Stutterfords of Jo’Burg I found two cousins unknown to me – EXCITED.
10:37:02 From Doris Haskell : Do you know if any land records have been indexed?
10:37:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is easier and faster to digitize a microfilm than to index it.
10:37:43 From June Butka : I found the index for Elijah Pease Probate docket 1 page 1210, unfortunately I can’t find the docket 1 record
10:39:57 From June Butka : Sometimes they fill in the pages at the end of a year with previous information from early times. Not always just the years listed.
10:41:58 From John Laws : Randy – You put me to shame
10:44:10 From Marcia Philbrick : Deeds are the one source that has helped me separate two men of the same name! I’m very thankful that the images are coming online.
10:44:13 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Absolutely!
10:44:55 From Doris Haskell : It was the grantee index that led me to the second married name of my female ancestor.
10:48:27 From Randy Seaver : Jay Verkler is who I was thinking about
10:48:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Both WW I and WW II had 3 different draft cards.
10:49:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I found someone on CEF record at Ancestry and it has numerous pages
10:50:57 From Cousin Russ : Carol – please post your question here
10:52:53 From Marian Koalski : Judging by the excitement, Randy, I think your campaign for studying the browsable records on FamilySearch is succeeding … and needs to continue.
10:53:19 From Randy Seaver : Here is a link to Jay Verkler’s visionary keynote talk at RootsTech 2012 about FamilySearch viasion for the genea-future – https://www.geneamusings.com/2012/02/do-you-believe-familysearch-vision-of.html. Unfortunately, the video is no longer available
10:53:32 From DearMYRTLE : http://www.delawarecountypa.com/
10:53:34 From Molly McKinley : You also need to check more than one state if the heirs moved. My gggrandfather died in Alabama, his family moved to Arkansas. I found probate files in both states.
10:55:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : I heard they are aiming for next day posting of new digitized records
10:58:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : Meaning that when they get done filming with records currently being digitized around the world.
10:58:42 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : When you reach the county will index section of the catalogue, is there a way to know which deeds are digitized from the list ?
10:59:08 From Rachel Evans : The search catalog can also help you find offline records. I found some church records that are only viewable at Salt Lake. The catalog said where the records were located. It is 20 minutes down the road from me. I emailed the Archives and they told me they have more records that were not filmed.
10:59:30 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes! That’s exactly how it worked for me.
11:02:08 From Marcia Philbrick : Some public libraries also provide access to the locked images. I’m 75 miles from a Family History Center and/or a public library with access. I appreciate the library access because it has longer hours.
11:03:37 From Marcia Philbrick : When Kansas records were filmed, the counties decided what would be filmed. Thus, not all county records have been filmed.
11:04:01 From Randi Patrick : For the people who have to travel a long distance, they could ask their local library if they would consider becoming a LDS affiliate.
11:04:08 From Hilary Gadsby : The school admission registers for some of my family are at the museum in the village so will not be digitised.
11:04:19 From Randy Seaver : The San Diego Reginoal FS Library is closed for remodeling for 6 months. They are taking out all of the books and microfilm machines, adding missionary offices and a Discovery Center.
11:04:48 From Barbara Gressel : When I was in Canada last year, I did a lot of research on land records. Some of the records were held in the local history center and they had been filmed my the Family History Center. THe rest of the records are held by Queen’s University and they have not been filmed. Didn’t have time to go to Queen’s . . . so sad. I guess I’ll have to go back.
11:04:51 From Cathy Naborowski : The Minnesota Genealogical Society just became an FHL Affiliate. Took about a month. Cannot see everything but most things. 11:05:32 From June Butka : Not all affiliates have the same available image as the Family History Library.
11:07:02 From Gloria Deison : yes, my church isn’t going to let them digitise. I’m there at the archive all the time, I know we have copies on CDs, but they won’t go on-line. Probably ever.
11:08:14 From Michelle Minner : I found the same thing (list of all the ships and ranks) my father had in the US Navy….the seaman logs are available form the FHL! You do have to read through them (not indexed) but I learned my father was washed off board during the Battle of Leyte in WWII…(we didn’t know about that!)
11:09:00 From Randy Seaver : John is describing genea-gasms in the dusty stacks!
11:09:21 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Randy!
11:11:20 From Marian Koalski : Michelle Minner, do you mean that the seaman logs are online at FamilySearch, or just at the FHL itself?
11:11:56 From Michelle Minner : Family Search Centers…I found the logs from WWII at the Family Center here in Tucson!
11:16:56 From Pat Kuhn : find my past and the Catholic records!!!!!!
11:17:03 From Marian Koalski : Lots of Penna & NJ church records (old and not-so-old) are in Historical Society of Penna’s collection offered on Ancestry.
11:17:49 From Marian Koalski : Gloria Deison, do you mean your local congregation or the whole denomination?
11:18:03 From Cousin Russ : https://www.findmypast.com/
11:18:41 From Gloria Deison : Those CDs were done by local researchers who donated their time so that we could have a backup, I feel the higher ups in the church are not interested (in archives, in genealogy, in opening their archives to share, but at least they have the actual archive open and I can go for others, too.)
11:18:55 From Cousin Russ : Historical Society of Pennsylvania https://hsp.org/
11:20:26 From Michelle Minner : WOW I love that County Map! Wish I had one like that for Missouri!
11:21:03 From Randy Seaver : We really need ALL of the record providers to keep adding record collections – competition is necessary to keep growing the opportunities. If only one organization was digitizing, we wouldn’t get new collections as fast as we are now.
11:21:09 From Cousin Russ : Did you know that the Society and the University of Wisconsin (UW) System cooperate in a network of Area Research Centers (ARCs) located at UW campus libraries throughout the state and at the Northern Great Lakes Visitor Center? Each Area Research Center serves a specific geographic region and you can access most collections from across the state and have them sent to your region from anywhere in the network. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS4000
11:21:41 From Cousin Russ : The Legal Genealogist Blog https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/08/11/perfect-information/
11:23:50 From John Laws : Hi Debbie good to have you join us
11:24:59 From Betty-Lu Burton : A compilation is a good starting point, but is just a starting point.
11:25:23 From Devon Lee : I’m of the opinion all genealogy research should be peer reviewed. So I would vet the books if it was a project I was interested in.
11:27:53 From June Butka : One of the points Judy Russell, made was that the entries into the Bible were well before the date of the Bible. Bible Date is a important, not only for the births but the person who was supposed to own the Bible.
11:29:17 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, Dear Myrtle, My looming question. What if you can”t find a document other a authored work?
11:30:03 From Randy Seaver : Barbara, I source the authored work and continue to look for a record.
11:30:05 From John Laws : I put on my blog every day the following statement “The content provided on this site is not guaranteed to be error free It is always advised that you consult original records.”
11:32:18 From Randi Patrick : I have gone to many garage and book sales and I see old bibles on sale. So I wouldn’t count the dates of birth, etc., that are listed as any type of proof; the information could’ve been listed way after. It’s chain of custody should be taken into consideration.
11:32:19 From June Butka : I’m not faulting Judy Either.She followed GPS. [The Genealogical Proof Standard is most recently codified by the Board for Certification of Genealogists in their book Genealogy Standards, fiftieth-anniversary edition (Nashville, TN: Ancestry, 2014).
11:32:21 From Marian Koalski : Isn’t that what the source fields are for when we fill in blanks in genealogy programs?
11:34:36 From Devon Lee : Source fields are great, but it’s great to go further, just like you said.
11:34:43 From Randy Seaver : Some genealogy programs have fields for comments or research notes.
DearMYRTLE’s *very* distant cousin Pinky hosted this webinar in response to what Miss Peggy Laurentzen heard at the recent BYU genealogy conference. Apparently, FamilySearch reported at the rate we’re indexing it would take 150 years to catch up with what has been digitized. Practical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. This webinar discusses the specific guidelines for New York Naturalizations as we indexed a batch. Thank you to panelist Marceline Beem, Deb Andrew and MElissa LeMaster Barker for keeping a watchful eye, ensuringour index batch would be submitted without error.