Another Mondays with Myrt session with hearty interaction among opinionated panelists and attendees. Thanks to Cousin Russ for bringing in the comments! We discussed:

  • FamilySearch Indexing (We will host a special WACKY Wednesday this week demonstrating this invaluable volunteer program.)
  • State & territorial census records
  • Current DAR proof requirements as Ol’ Myrt is preparing her lineage application
  • Fudge family photos found at a car boot sale in England & what to do with your old photos after you have passed away
  • Randy Seaver’s research with Henry White deeds in Killingly CT, Connecticut records
  • The Barbour Collection of Connecticut Town Vital Records
  • An open letter to an archivist
  • Worthwhile archival supplies
  • eBay – would an antique postcard illustrate your family history? Also, how to set up your watch list.
  • Feedly – cloud resource for following blogs and podcasts
  • DearMYRTLE’s most recent letter to her grandkids




10:00:31 From Deb Andrew : Good day!
10:01:26 From Jenny Hawran  : I’m on vacation this week and get to do work on genealogy all week…hurray 🙂
10:01:59 From Jacqueline Wilson : Good morning from a rainy Chicago!


DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

10:04:43 From Danine Cozzens : Canada Gen was very helpful. Good background. See: ARCHIVED: CanadaGen Study Group 1

CanadaGEN Study Group

10:05:40 From Michelle Minner : My Canadian Ancestors lived in same place and the borders changed !!! they became US citizens without moving!
10:06:53 From Hilary Gadsby : This was what started a conversation.
10:08:22 From Jacqueline Wilson : I attended the FHF’s DNA e-conference this past Saturday! Great stuff!
10:09:05 From Cousin Russ :
10:09:07 From Jacqueline Wilson : Not recently
10:09:09 From Hilary Gadsby : I got some hints from Family Search yesterday
10:09:30 From Hilary Gadsby : Not had time for indexing recently
10:09:45 From Sharon Lighthouse : I index for the DAR when I have time.
10:09:46 From bobbi to All panelists : the quick batches make it easy to sit down for just a minute and do a record
10:10:11 From Jacqueline Wilson : I see a project for me: Iowa death records.
10:10:35 From Benay Deckard to All panelists : I have
10:10:47 From Michelle Minner : I have had good luck with state census records…especially in Iowa
10:10:59 From Benay Deckard to All panelists : Mine have been with Kansas
10:11:05 From Deb Andrew : Yes, great when some people miss the other ones.
10:11:11 From Cathy Naborowski : I love state census records. Iowa especially!!!
10:11:24 From Jacqueline Wilson : I had help with the Iowa State Census, but I was at the Iowa Historical Center. It was on microfilm.
10:11:41 From Launa Droescher : used Iowa several years ago for Great-aunt’s family
10:11:42 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I have used New York State Censuses some of them are on familysearch
10:11:53 From Sue Burns : I’ve hard great luck with the Wisconsin State census records.
10:12:19 From Janine Edmée Hakim : I love having access to state censuses…wish they had continued on into the present
10:12:24 From Cathy Naborowski : The 1925 Iowa census lists parents names and where they were married!! Broken a couple of brick walls.
10:12:29 From Rachel Evans : I don’t index as often as I would like on Family Search. I mostly go for New York or Italy records.
10:12:36 From Marcia Philbrick : State census fantastic – especially Kansas — be sure to check out the Ancestry record set: Kansas, City and County Census Records, 1919-1961 — every year and sometimes entire households
10:16:06 From Randy Seaver : There’s danger in only requiring Death Certs – there is no guarantee that parents named in a DC are correct.
10:18:32 From Michelle Minner : One of my biggest brick walls ever was caused by an informant putting a wrong mother name on her father’s death certificate!
10:19:37 From Cousin Russ : Jim – If you have a question, please post it here OR do you a verbal question that on this topic I an unmute you — OR do you want to join the panel ?
10:19:49 From Deb Andrew : On my grandfather’ death certificate, it has him born in Marion, Williamson county, IL, instead of Marion coutny, AL. The informant lived near Marion, IL.
10:20:26 From Rachel Evans : My great-grandmother’s death certificate has her stepfather as her father. My grandmother could not remember her biological grandfather’s name.
10:20:39 From Doris Haskell : I am frustrated with my DAR application process. They have changed the rules, and the patriots who qualified my mother, her mother and their sisters have been disqualified. I found another patriot, and he looked good. Died in the war. Now they want proof that he was actually a resident of New York.
10:21:38 From Kathleen Daetsch : My great-grandfathers death cirtificate has the wrong name for his mother.
10:21:48 From Randy Seaver : The 1921 death cert for Linda’s great-grandmother Jane (Whittle) McKnew provided the wrong parents names – said Joseph Whittle and Rachel Moore. Research finally showed the parents were Alexander Whittle and Rachel Morley. Needed England and Australian records to determine this.
10:22:06 From Danine Cozzens : Doris, I have a lot of disqualified patriots. Having pulled those apps years ago, I think the DAR is correct in suspecting them.
10:22:15 From Crystal Toenjes : Your experience with the DAR is very different from mine as far as required documentation. The good part of it for me is I now have several lines proven extremely well, although none of them well enough to meet the standards of the registrar I’ve been working with for nearly six years. So it’s been rewarding and frustrating at the same time.
10:22:47 From Doris Haskell : Crystal, I feel your pain.
10:22:52 From cyndy Bray : What happens if there is no death certificate.
10:23:08 From Randy Seaver : Jane McKnew was born in Australia and came to California in 1851 with her mother, lived in Gold country, married Elijah McKnew and moved to San Francisco in 1870s, and died there in 1921.
10:23:34 From cyndy Bray : grandfather disappeared in another country and as far as we know there is not death information
10:26:54 From Danine Cozzens : Randy, where in the Gold Country? I had family in Sonora and also Dutch Flat. Love going onsite.
10:27:42 From Cousin Russ : Fudge, Park & Ginn Family Pt 1
10:27:44 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : A car boot sale sounds interesting. Possible way to de-clutter, a little at a time.
10:28:10 From Randy Seaver : Danine – Angels Camp and Tuttletown, close to Sonora! alexander Whittle committed suicide in 1853 in Angels Camp – cause said to be alcohol and an absconding wife, according to newspaper article.
10:28:32 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Look at all the kisses for every X on the back.
10:28:58 From Rebecca Williams : I have looked for the origional documents of a birth of a great grandmother whose microfilmed copy was altered before it was filmed. The origional has since disappeared. Her middle name was inserted sometime after the document was completed and filed.
10:30:56 From Doris Haskell  : She makes me think of the LRHG
10:32:05 From Kathleen Daetsch : I hate to think this is what will happen to my collection.
10:36:38 From Jenny Hawran : Trying to obtain my grandmother’s birth certificate or get a copy of her birth record from 1897 Bloomington, Indiana. Sent for it and received a transcription. When I called they said her record is on a page with other entries and I can’t get a copy of the page, nor can I even see it if I come in (I”m in CT) because of the privacy of others on the page. Anyone else deal with this before?
10:36:52 From Cousin Russ : RANDY SEAVER’S Transcriptions and my Amanuensis Monday series – specifically what I figured out in

After You're Gone: Futureproofing Your Genealogy Research
10:37:07 From Linda Jordan : Your will may not be read before your stuff has been thrown out.
10:38:00 From Jacqueline Wilson : After You’re Gone: Future Proofing Your Genealogy Research eBook by Thomas MacEntee: Kindle Store
10:38:44 From Rebecca Williams : I also went to a courthouse looking for the will of a second great grandfather. His will was not found. It had either been mis-filed or outright removed. I was looking for information about a child that I had thought might be his grandson. The boy was born in the same month as his daughter. On the census someone noted “twins?” The will was found microfilmed at familysearch. It confirmed he was a grandson.
10:39:30 From Doris Haskell: I love land and property records!! Have found some great treasures in them. People, not property.
10:41:46 From Danine Cozzens : Randy, those newspapers are amazing but very partisan and opinionated. They were wild and violent times. I’ll make a note of your Whittles for when I get back to my Sonora notes. He might have gotten his mail from the Sonora postoffice run by my ggf George W Patrick out of the corner store. (now a 7-11 parking lot.)
Historic MapWorks
10:43:25 From Cousin Russ : Historic Map Works
10:43:26 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : I used to take horseback riding lessons in Chestnut Hill, CT
10:47:36 From Jenny Hawran : Tolland is in the eastern part of Connecticut
10:47:45 From Jenny Hawran : I live in the Hartford area

10:47:53 From Randy Seaver : I have found that the best way to “advance the ball” in my genealogy research is to transcribe a deed or will or pension file each week and add it to my family tree database. I have 440 transcriptions now – I list them on my Amanuensis Monday Posts page at

10:48:01 From Rebecca Williams : I was unclear about the middle name added to the birth certificate after the fact: the middle name added was not her middle name. Belle was added but her middle name was Bethiah, ater her mother’s mother. Very sorry to muddle things up.

Barbour Collection
10:48:46 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists :
10:48:51 From Hilary Gadsby : The grandfather of Horace in the blog post is the brother of the person who married my cousin. There is a documented FUDGE tree on Ancestry.
10:49:04 From Cousin Russ :

10:49:58 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s An Open Letter to an Archivist Ol’ Myrt has some questions about filing photos and unusual family papers in acid-free metal edge Hollinger boxes.
10:57:10 From Danine Cozzens : Re: archiving, a hearty second to “readily processed into regional archive collection.” I’m a genealogical “dead end kid” with no direct descendants.
11:00:29 From Danine Cozzens : Russ, that’s also my question. To break up a big collection or find out particular archives.


11:01:26 From Michelle Minner : I love having a “watch” set up…and it helps finding things you wouldn’t have time to search for.
11:02:00 From Michelle Minner : I set up watches for “county” names…I get a lot of county historical books
11:04:12 From Jacqueline Wilson : Danine, I am also a “dead end kid”. It is great to have a term of us!
11:05:12 From Michelle Minner : Jacqueline and Danine, add me to the “dead end kid” group!
11:05:14 From Danine Cozzens : We need our own support group.
11:05:22 From Randy Seaver : my grandparents collected San Diego postcards for 80 years. I remember seeing them when we had the garage sale after they died in the 1970s, and the postcards probably went to dealers with antique stores and ephemera shops in San Diego. I wish that I had saved them but life was different then.
11:05:29 From Crystal Toenjes : I found my 3rd great grandparents Bible on Ebay 15 years ago. It was left in the house after the family moved the elderly mother into a nursing home and sold the home. The new owners of the house were selling left behind items online. Got it for $25.
11:06:22 From Danine Cozzens : I’m deecoz@gmail and all over the internet so please let me know if anyone else is up for perhaps a G+ group?
11:08:02 From Jacqueline Wilson :
11:10:32 From Jeanne Courval to All panelists : I use it to buy old postcards from the South Carolina area and areas in Indiana and Illinois. I have found postcards of building that no longer exist that are relevant to my family history
11:13:58 From Deb Andrew : My dad was catpured in a shot for Life Magazine. He is looking straight at the camerca. There had been a major coal mining accident. 1952
11:15:27 From Molly McKinley : I have my grandmother’s postcard collection. Many were from relatives. Having the addresses and notes on the back helps me find the place where these relatives fit.
11:18:08 From Molly McKinley : It was probably the hospital auxillary’s recipes.
11:19:11 From Jacqueline Wilson : Could the recipe book be a fund raising book, like they now have. I had a bunch at one time.
11:21:39 From Bill West : Better late than never. Just back from car repairs Oh the pain, the pain!
11:23:00 From Cousin Russ : FEEDLY (A cloud viewer of blogs and podcasts)
11:28:02 From Randy Seaver : I love the idea of a letter to the grandkids.
11:29:56 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Thanks for a magnificent Monday
11:31:21 From Jacqueline Wilson : Jim – Sounds like my office!
11:34:54 From Cousin Russ :

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