We first tackle the proposed cut that would close the Allen County Public Library. I followed up with the post “Contact Info: Ft. Wayne City Council About Library Budget Cut.” Other topics include:
- Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson (Ol’ Myrt received hers as she was typing this post. YAY!)
- More to the Fudge family photos story
- Randy’s family photos – let’s remember to take them. (Ol’ Myrt had a big family gathering yesterday and totally forgot to take a single shot.)
- Ireland Valuation Books Translator
- Accessing digital land records at FamilySearch that are not indexed with Randy Seaver’s best advice.
- Wisconsin Area Research Centers
- Authored works
- Family bibles
10:01:14 From John Laws : Good to be with you guys from a wet Scotland
10:01:17 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : Good Morning to all from HOT California.
10:01:48 From Graham Walter : Overcast but dry down near London
10:01:58 From Cousin Russ : From Dick Eastman’s blog “A Fort Wayne, Indiana, City Councilman Proposes Eliminating the Annual Budget for the Allen County Public Library” https://blog.eogn.com/2018/08/13/a-fort-wayne-indiana-city-councilman-proposes-eliminating-the-annual-budget-for-the-allen-county-public-library/amp/
10:02:11 From Marian Koalski : Whoa!
10:02:38 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ. Ask the downtown hotels and restaurants.
10:03:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Does he not realize how many dollars they receive in people visiting the library? I am sure it is more then the annual budget
10:03:28 From Deb Andrew : They tried to do that here, did it for awhile, closed several branches. Then they had to reopen them all over again and buy new books.
10:03:31 From Cousin Russ : Federation of Genealogy Societies https://www.fgsconference.org
10:03:44 From Marian Koalski : The councilman is obviously not in touch with how much internet access the library provides to the public, including e-book borrowings.
10:03:53 From Abbie McDonough : My local library is not just used for reading. For example I go to craft meetings at my local library.
10:04:26 From Barbara LaMarche : Indiana has always been one of the most “Genea” friendly states.
10:04:40 From Marcia Philbrick : There are other public libraries encountering this exact same issue — do away with the annual budget. Even though these aren’t major genealogical libraries, they still likely have resources that genealogists rely on.
10:06:35 From Marian Koalski : Around here, the library is where we meet for book groups, kids’ classes in STEM, computer clubs, genealogy clubs, art displays, musical performances….
10:06:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : My local library provides many activities for children to help with learning and social skills
10:07:28 From Bill West : We had a similiar situation here. Someone wanted to reduce the library budget because “nobody reads anymore” The budget was kept the same and the town has built a new library,
10:08:29 From Marian Koalski : Who is the councilman’s opponent in the upcoming elections?
10:08:32 From Gloria Deison : My local library holds the historical town archive! (morning / evening all!)
10:08:51 From bobbi to All panelists : maybe this was good timing. they can make their presence known.
10:09:09 From Valerie Lisk to All panelists : MAAGI meets at Allen County annually. [Midwest African American Genealogy Institute]
10:09:55 From Yvonne Demoskoff : As an example, when my husband and I were in SLC this February for RootsTech, we spent money locally at restaurants, the mall, souvenirs, and at the planetarium
10:10:11 From Rachel Evans : They don’t understand people are on fixed incomes and can’t afford to buy books on Amazon. My mother is and she is at the library several times a week to get books.
10:10:12 From Hilary Gadsby : Too many small libraries get closed. We will end up with no place to find the recrds if this was to happen.
10:10:55 From Marian Koalski : I suppose that libraries could be viewed as subversive if politicians are afraid of having citizens talk to each other.
10:11:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : The best way is to show them that the library is more than just a book depository and can provide customers to local businesses
10:11:07 From Hilary Gadsby : Our libraries hold a lot more than books.
10:11:24 From Michelle Minner : Unfortunately I don’t think that people that live outside of the local area would have any “say” or vote in the issue. It has to be a community effort…and it has to be a grass roots activism (in my opinion)
10:13:37 From Marian Koalski : Dollars from outside of Allen County could be a form of activism.
10:14:00 From Bill West : One likes to think logic would prevailabout the library, but given recent history I am aconcerned.
10:14:44 From Melissa Barker : I am here listening in but have a cold, home from work.
10:15:07 From Marian Koalski : Remember gifts to local libraries when you write obituaries.
10:15:08 From Betty-Lu Burton : Melissa get better soon.
10:16:30 From Dave Robison : Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson
10:18:02 From Hilary Gadsby : More to the story of the bag full of Fudge family photos https://lynnswaffles.com/2018/08/09/fudge-park-and-ginn-family-part-2/
10:20:40 From Randy Seaver : Randy’s FB – https://www.facebook.com/Geneaholic
10:21:01 From Cousin Russ : Ireland Valuation Books Translator http://www.townlandvaluationtranslator.com
10:31:03 From Marian Koalski : We need someone who is the Professional Photo Reminder in the family, who will interrupt when needed to get it done.
10:32:03 From Cousin Russ : Land records – “Finding David Auble’s Land Records in Sussex County, New Jersey” by Randy Seaver https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/finding-david-aubles-land-records-in.html
10:33:12 From Doris Haskell : I have found great treasures in land records. Surprises. Been thinking about getting back into them again.
10:33:27 From Michelle Minner : Thank you, Randy! woo hoo! I am going to search the catalog for land records for my family! WOW
10:34:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : I found my 2 great grandfather’s estate packet recently on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the estate records only mentioned his second family and nothing about his first family. I come through the oldest daughter of the first family. Granted by the time he died all his children from the first family had married and had children of their own.
10:36:47 From John Laws : From an Will for my grandfather published in South Africa as he was the director in the London Office of Stutterfords of Jo’Burg I found two cousins unknown to me – EXCITED.
10:37:02 From Doris Haskell : Do you know if any land records have been indexed?
10:37:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is easier and faster to digitize a microfilm than to index it.
10:37:43 From June Butka : I found the index for Elijah Pease Probate docket 1 page 1210, unfortunately I can’t find the docket 1 record
10:39:57 From June Butka : Sometimes they fill in the pages at the end of a year with previous information from early times. Not always just the years listed.
10:41:58 From John Laws : Randy – You put me to shame
10:44:10 From Marcia Philbrick : Deeds are the one source that has helped me separate two men of the same name! I’m very thankful that the images are coming online.
10:44:13 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Absolutely!
10:44:55 From Doris Haskell : It was the grantee index that led me to the second married name of my female ancestor.
10:48:27 From Randy Seaver : Jay Verkler is who I was thinking about
10:48:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Both WW I and WW II had 3 different draft cards.
10:49:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I found someone on CEF record at Ancestry and it has numerous pages
10:50:57 From Cousin Russ : Carol – please post your question here
10:52:53 From Marian Koalski : Judging by the excitement, Randy, I think your campaign for studying the browsable records on FamilySearch is succeeding … and needs to continue.
10:53:19 From Randy Seaver : Here is a link to Jay Verkler’s visionary keynote talk at RootsTech 2012 about FamilySearch viasion for the genea-future – https://www.geneamusings.com/2012/02/do-you-believe-familysearch-vision-of.html. Unfortunately, the video is no longer available
10:53:32 From DearMYRTLE : http://www.delawarecountypa.com/
10:53:34 From Molly McKinley : You also need to check more than one state if the heirs moved. My gggrandfather died in Alabama, his family moved to Arkansas. I found probate files in both states.
10:55:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : I heard they are aiming for next day posting of new digitized records
10:58:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : Meaning that when they get done filming with records currently being digitized around the world.
10:58:42 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : When you reach the county will index section of the catalogue, is there a way to know which deeds are digitized from the list ?
10:59:08 From Rachel Evans : The search catalog can also help you find offline records. I found some church records that are only viewable at Salt Lake. The catalog said where the records were located. It is 20 minutes down the road from me. I emailed the Archives and they told me they have more records that were not filmed.
10:59:30 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes! That’s exactly how it worked for me.
11:02:08 From Marcia Philbrick : Some public libraries also provide access to the locked images. I’m 75 miles from a Family History Center and/or a public library with access. I appreciate the library access because it has longer hours.
11:03:37 From Marcia Philbrick : When Kansas records were filmed, the counties decided what would be filmed. Thus, not all county records have been filmed.
11:04:01 From Randi Patrick : For the people who have to travel a long distance, they could ask their local library if they would consider becoming a LDS affiliate.
11:04:08 From Hilary Gadsby : The school admission registers for some of my family are at the museum in the village so will not be digitised.
11:04:19 From Randy Seaver : The San Diego Reginoal FS Library is closed for remodeling for 6 months. They are taking out all of the books and microfilm machines, adding missionary offices and a Discovery Center.
11:04:48 From Barbara Gressel : When I was in Canada last year, I did a lot of research on land records. Some of the records were held in the local history center and they had been filmed my the Family History Center. THe rest of the records are held by Queen’s University and they have not been filmed. Didn’t have time to go to Queen’s . . . so sad. I guess I’ll have to go back.
11:04:51 From Cathy Naborowski : The Minnesota Genealogical Society just became an FHL Affiliate. Took about a month. Cannot see everything but most things.
11:05:32 From June Butka : Not all affiliates have the same available image as the Family History Library.
11:07:02 From Gloria Deison : yes, my church isn’t going to let them digitise. I’m there at the archive all the time, I know we have copies on CDs, but they won’t go on-line. Probably ever.
11:08:14 From Michelle Minner : I found the same thing (list of all the ships and ranks) my father had in the US Navy….the seaman logs are available form the FHL! You do have to read through them (not indexed) but I learned my father was washed off board during the Battle of Leyte in WWII…(we didn’t know about that!)
11:09:00 From Randy Seaver : John is describing genea-gasms in the dusty stacks!
11:09:21 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Randy!
11:11:20 From Marian Koalski : Michelle Minner, do you mean that the seaman logs are online at FamilySearch, or just at the FHL itself?
11:11:56 From Michelle Minner : Family Search Centers…I found the logs from WWII at the Family Center here in Tucson!
11:16:56 From Pat Kuhn : find my past and the Catholic records!!!!!!
11:17:03 From Marian Koalski : Lots of Penna & NJ church records (old and not-so-old) are in Historical Society of Penna’s collection offered on Ancestry.
11:17:49 From Marian Koalski : Gloria Deison, do you mean your local congregation or the whole denomination?
11:17:56 From Cousin Russ : https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx
11:18:03 From Cousin Russ : https://www.findmypast.com/
11:18:41 From Gloria Deison : Those CDs were done by local researchers who donated their time so that we could have a backup, I feel the higher ups in the church are not interested (in archives, in genealogy, in opening their archives to share, but at least they have the actual archive open and I can go for others, too.)
11:18:55 From Cousin Russ : Historical Society of Pennsylvania https://hsp.org/
11:20:26 From Michelle Minner : WOW I love that County Map! Wish I had one like that for Missouri!
11:21:03 From Randy Seaver : We really need ALL of the record providers to keep adding record collections – competition is necessary to keep growing the opportunities. If only one organization was digitizing, we wouldn’t get new collections as fast as we are now.
11:21:09 From Cousin Russ : Did you know that the Society and the University of Wisconsin (UW) System cooperate in a network of Area Research Centers (ARCs) located at UW campus libraries throughout the state and at the Northern Great Lakes Visitor Center? Each Area Research Center serves a specific geographic region and you can access most collections from across the state and have them sent to your region from anywhere in the network. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS4000
11:21:41 From Cousin Russ : The Legal Genealogist Blog https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/08/11/perfect-information/
11:23:50 From John Laws : Hi Debbie good to have you join us
11:24:59 From Betty-Lu Burton : A compilation is a good starting point, but is just a starting point.
11:25:23 From Devon Lee : I’m of the opinion all genealogy research should be peer reviewed. So I would vet the books if it was a project I was interested in.
11:27:53 From June Butka : One of the points Judy Russell, made was that the entries into the Bible were well before the date of the Bible. Bible Date is a important, not only for the births but the person who was supposed to own the Bible.
11:29:17 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, Dear Myrtle, My looming question. What if you can”t find a document other a authored work?
11:30:03 From Randy Seaver : Barbara, I source the authored work and continue to look for a record.
11:30:05 From John Laws : I put on my blog every day the following statement “The content provided on this site is not guaranteed to be error free It is always advised that you consult original records.”
11:32:18 From Randi Patrick : I have gone to many garage and book sales and I see old bibles on sale. So I wouldn’t count the dates of birth, etc., that are listed as any type of proof; the information could’ve been listed way after. It’s chain of custody should be taken into consideration.
11:32:19 From June Butka : I’m not faulting Judy Either.She followed GPS. [The Genealogical Proof Standard is most recently codified by the Board for Certification of Genealogists in their book Genealogy Standards, fiftieth-anniversary edition (Nashville, TN: Ancestry, 2014).
11:32:21 From Marian Koalski : Isn’t that what the source fields are for when we fill in blanks in genealogy programs?
11:34:36 From Devon Lee : Source fields are great, but it’s great to go further, just like you said.
11:34:43 From Randy Seaver : Some genealogy programs have fields for comments or research notes.
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