ARCHIVED: The Archive Lady – Mercantile & Store Records

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Melissa LeMaster Barker is a Certified Archives Manager currently working as the Houston County, Tennessee Archivist. She is also a Professional Genealogist and lectures, teaches and writes about researching in archives and records preservation. You’ll find her work here and on the web at:

Melissa recommends the following resources for archival materials:

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19:09:18 From Betty-Lu Burton : We need to remember that 100 years or longer people would buy things on credit and pay their debt after the harvest
19:11:51 From Dave Robison : Sounds like my great-grandfather’s hardware store in Evergreen, Alabama
19:14:16 From Betty-Lu Burton : Did not a lot of Mining companies have a company store?
19:17:42 From Dave Robison : 20th century Facebook!
19:18:43 From Betty-Lu Burton : Dave more of a 19th century Facebook. I have found many in the 1800’s newspapers
19:21:30 From Betty-Lu Burton : I have a Civil War Pension, where the mother proved she received help from her soldier son. It contains a list of things she received help from him through sewing things from his mercantile store
19:21:42 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Whiting agent
19:23:09 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : A lot, I worked in the quilting and sewing machine industry. Pat should see my studio
19:24:39 From Deb Andrew : Another area to check with the sales of sewing machines, Singer was very popular, especially the Featherweight.
19:33:06 From Dave Robison : Google says alemite was an automotive high pressure grease job
19:34:12 From Dave Robison : I can order the direction manual for $22!!
19:35:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Sorry my mind is not working real good tonight
19:37:16 From DearMYRTLE . : It’s ok, Betty-Lu. We are glad you are here! 🙂
19:42:36 From Betty-Lu Burton : The country makes it sound more fresh
19:44:03 From Dave Robison : http://www.genealogytrails.com/tenn/houston/bioM.html
19:45:27 From Dave Robison : Myrt…you beat me on that one!
19:45:52 From DearMYRTLE . : :::giggle:::
19:52:52 From Launa Droescher : I think sometimes Merentile was PO, RR Station, and would sell other than food
19:54:30 From Dave Robison : Merriam-Webster (I use that one since they’re right here in Springfield, MA) defines it simply as “of or relating to merchants or trading.” Doesn’t seem to be restricted to any specific product.
19:55:44 From Sue Tolbert to All panelists : Whoa… Do you mean Sapulpa, Oklahoma?
19:57:10 From GENA PHILIBERT-ORTEGA : Wolfram Alpha also has an inflation calculator
19:59:04 From Cousin Russ : http://www.in2013dollars.com/1983-dollars-in-2017?amount=100
19:59:10 From Rev Linda to All panelists : Tell Melissa it’s pronounced Suh-pulp-ah
19:59:12 From GENA PHILIBERT-ORTEGA : Very nice job Melissa. Thanks for such great info!
20:03:15 From Dave Robison : Melissa…always a pleasure to hear you and your advice!
20:03:27 From Dave Robison : !!!
20:03:30 From Cousin Russ : https://www.wolframalpha.com
20:04:21 From GENA PHILIBERT-ORTEGA : Thanks Pat!


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QuickLook Video: RootsMagic – Adding Media Files

RootsMagic Adding Media Files

My friend Maria T. and I are assisting our neighbors with RootsMagic, genealogy software to manage the data and images we’re collecting as we climb our family trees. We are to the stage now where folks have scanned or downloaded family photos and vital records of birth, marriage and death. It’s now time to attach the photos and documents to the people in question and it’s a snap.

In this short subject video DearMYRTLE demonstrates how to add a photo to her ancestor’s profile, and add the death certificate to the ancestor’s death event line.

 


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If you’d like more detailed information for handling media files in RootsMagic, see “Pictures and Media in RootsMagic” at RootsMagic TV (YouTube), shown below. The RootsMagic Magician and his partner Michael Booth do a marvelous job explaining all sorts of additional options including attaching files, sound clips and video clips.


 

ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 14 & 15 “Census Records”

AmericaGen Study Group

The AmericaGen Study Group – Chapters 14 & 15 “Census Records” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.) https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

Please note all hyperlinks are non-affiliate links.

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Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits.

AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 14 & 15 Combined Homework: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EBCJ5B3QFXGwTGvEoJa1gX3lmoj-wY4LKNuzlVTLS3M/edit?usp=sharing

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10:14:50 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : I would think not being able to always hear one’s spouse might lead to HAPPINESS.
10:15:00 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : :::GIGGLE:::
10:15:27 From Lisa Gorrell : The marriage could be doomed when you’re living with your in-laws.
10:15:37 From Robbin Smith : true
10:15:47 From DearMYRTLE . : I would think not being able to always hear one’s spouse might lead to HAPPINESS. :::GIGGLE:::
10:15:49 From Marceline Beem : I wonder if the instructions were to include children who were temporarily away at school
10:15:50 From Cary Bright : Great point Lisa
10:18:05 From Danine Cozzens : Graduating from 8th grade was an accomplishment in the 19th C. As we consider high school graduation now.
10:18:19 From Cousin Russ : https://www.gallaudet.edu/about/history-and-traditions
10:22:07 From Robbin Smith : http://berkeleycitizensaction.org/?page_id=430 more info on deaf and blind school
10:22:56 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : U.S. Special Census on Deaf Family Marriages and Hearing Relatives, 1888-1895 https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1582
10:23:06 From Cousin Russ : U.S. Special Census on Deaf Family Marriages and Hearing Relatives, 1888-1895 https://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1582
10:26:24 From Cathy Naborowski : Ms. Passey is hard to hear.
10:28:46 From Marceline Beem to All panelists : I’ll be back in a couple of minutes. I’m cold and need coffee.
10:30:38 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : I still do the transcribing – as it helps me internalize the info, and I remember to read the entire line all the way across.
10:31:36 From Danine Cozzens : Filling blank census forms out has helped me in dealing with family groups or to disambiguate persons of same name.
10:32:10 From Launa Droescher : Years ago I found a place online that I could fill-in census forms and could keep one XLS set for each family group. Even printed out on legal paper.
10:40:00 From Rebecca Williams : https://www.censustools.com/ has spreadsheets for census records.
10:41:19 From DearMYRTLE . : Census Tools is a paid spreadsheet program, but you may download the 1940 templates for free.
10:49:37 From Cary Bright : Love the table format Sue. Great headers
10:50:24 From Cousin Russ : https://www.cyndislist.com/evernote
10:51:04 From June Butka : Happy Holiday to everyone. I’m off to an appointment.
10:52:33 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 14 & 15 Combined Homework: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EBCJ5B3QFXGwTGvEoJa1gX3lmoj-wY4LKNuzlVTLS3M/edit?usp=sharing
10:59:59 From Danine Cozzens : If it’s any consolation, “dumb” used to mean “unable to speak”.
11:02:51 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : mothers having reubella?
11:05:22 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Melinda, it’s good to see you here. 🙂
11:09:30 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 14 & 15 Combined Homework: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EBCJ5B3QFXGwTGvEoJa1gX3lmoj-wY4LKNuzlVTLS3M/edit?usp=sharing
11:10:05 From Danine Cozzens : Thanks to all!


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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 26 Nov 2018

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As usual we discuss the latest genea-news that’s come across our desk including:

  • Relative Finder
  • Orphan Trains
  • Georgia Tann
  • Suggested info for tracing Tennessee Adoptions
  • Reasonably exhaustive research
  • Fake news about Facebook limiting our post views to 26 people
  • Legacy Family Tree Webinars – good way to spend your education dollars
  • RootsTech 2019 Salt Lake City 27 Feb-3 March 2-19 at the Salt Palace
  • Elizabeth Shown Mills’s “Evidence Explained: The Problem-Solving Spiral “

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09:52:49 From Dave Robison to All panelists : https://www.relativefinder.org/#/relatives/all/user
09:54:31 From Dave Robison to All panelists : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Tann
09:55:29 From John Laws : Hi everyone from a wet Scotland
09:56:32 From Pat Kuhn : https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/77830208/person/46374371549/facts
09:57:28 From Hilary Gadsby : https://genemeet.blogspot.com/2018/11/rootstech-2019-slc-registration-winner.html
10:00:48 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:01:00 From grahamwalter : Hello all from London
10:01:03 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello Everyone. Not sure how long I will be able to stay
10:02:57 From Bill West : Good morning from soggy Massachusetts
10:03:00 From Marcia Philbrick : We had about 8 hours of snow with lots of wind. Most of the state of Kansas was under a blizzard warning at one time. According to a regional tv station, we had 10-12″ of snow. The airport at Kansas City had to close yesterday afternoon when the blizzard reached the metro area.
10:03:25 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : hello from sunny miami
10:03:40 From Cousin Russ : https://www.relativefinder.org/#/relatives/all/user
10:05:27 From Pat Kuhn to All panelists : Space Balls!!!!
10:11:13 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : Ancestry uses their BIG tree for the We;’re Related app. They bragged about having 400 million profiles in the tree when they did that Genetic study earlier this month.
10:11:35 From Randy Seaver: They also use it for the “Potential Ancestor” hints
10:12:47 From Marcia Philbrick : Is Ancestry’s “Big Tree” based on their ‘World Tree’ efforts from years ago?
10:13:42 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Ancestry does you that big tree and most of mine is wrong when they do mine in the DNA section.
10:13:53 From Randy Seaver : maybe Marcia
10:15:37 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry uses their BIG tree for the We’re Related app. They bragged about having 400 million profiles in the tree when they did that Genetic study earlier this month. They also use it for the “Potential Ancestor” hints

10:16:43 From Cousin Russ : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Tann
10:17:01 From Bill West : Interesting site. I’ll take it with a large grain of salt.
10:17:06 From Randy Seaver : it behooves us to point out the errors in every one of the big trees and hope that Ancestry will correct their big tree. I guess I will make a list of the errors I find in my ancestry in the big Ancestry tree.
10:17:07 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : My sister-in-law was from Georgia Tann’s orphanage.

10:17:55 From Randy Seaver : Putting the errors in a blog post will help other researchers who happen to use a search engine in addition to other resources.
10:19:03 From Bev Anderson: There is a movie about her. “Stolen Babies”
10:19:36 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I can share screen.
10:19:39 From Marian Koalski : Tann must have been using blackmail on some of the hospital workers to get them to give up the babies that way.
10:20:40 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : ok, let’s get a document to handle this.
10:22:42 From Marcia Philbrick : Orphan Trains
10:23:40 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : She hired a PI in the 1990s to find her mom. Then, I helped her find her father through DNA.
10:24:03 From Marcia Philbrick : National Orphan Train Complex – https://orphantraindepot.org/
10:24:26 From Doris Haskell : We have an adoption situation in our family. So thankful that it is an open adoption and we have unlimited access to visit. The adoptive parents have become wonderful friends. Such a beautiful contrast.
10:24:29 From Dave Robison to All panelists : https://www.tn.gov/dcs/program-areas/fca/adoption-records/faq.html To get directions on how to track down the adoption records.
10:25:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : My grandmother had an adopted brother and thankfully it was easily to get his adoption paper. this was back in 1890 in Wisconsin.
10:26:31 From Marian Koalski : Orphan trains also happened in Canada with children from Britain.
10:27:00 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : There is a movie out right now about twins who were studied as lab rats. The movie is about a set of triplets. It wasn’t that long ago.
10:27:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : I feel in cases where the adoptions were not legal, such as the case in Tenn., at least the names and birthdates of the children should be made available
10:27:41 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I could discuss my Wordless Wednesday photo from last week and seeing my brother over the weekend. Blog post is https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/11/my-father-and-his-three-sons-in-1958.html
10:27:45 From Cousin Russ : https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/77830208/person/46374371549/facts
10:28:00 From Doris Haskell : We know someone who was adopted at birth in 1944, and the only paper ever created was the birth registration by her adoptive parents. So thankful for DNA!! Now she knows that she is the 2nd of 6 children on her mother’s side, and the eldest of 9 on her father’s side.
10:28:22 From John Laws to All panelists : I all ok Russ
10:35:07 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Check for the inquest records
10:36:45 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Maybe there is a newspaper report about the mining accident. There are records kept for miming records, for accidents and deaths.
10:37:46 From Doris Haskell : Would city directories fit in this time frame?
10:38:29 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Look at the state level for Annual Coal Report of the Pennsylvania Department of Mines and Minerals.
10:38:39 From Robbin Smith : i found city directory entries going back at least 1888 in NJ but that was in big city
10:39:39 From Marian Koalski : I’ve found a fair number of Pittston obituaries, marriages, etc. in the Wilkes-Barre papers, but mostly after 1895
10:41:03 From bjanvier to All panelists : When we do our “reasonably exhaustive search” we need to document everyone we have research so that people know that all records have been researched and analyzed – that “not my relative list”
10:43:38 From Robbin Smith : i use both excel and ancestry tree
10:44:16 From Dave Robison to All panelists : My blog on Georgia Tann: http://oldbonessearch.com/
10:44:27 From Marcia Philbrick : I have the various lines in my RM program. I have two James Crawford families living next to each other in Ohio. They were both married in KY within about 10 years of each other. I have traced descendants of both lines in order to separate the two families.
10:44:37 From bjanvier to All panelists : At this stage it is all on paper, but something like OneNote or Evernote would be good so that search capabilities could be used. Excel would work also.
10:44:37 From Cousin Russ : From Dave Robison — My blog on Georgia Tann: http://oldbonessearch.com/

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10:49:25 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

10:50:34 From Cousin Russ : NOTE: As much as DearMYRTLE likes pseudonyms, please join this group and register for our webinars as yourself. If we permitted business names, every comment to a post or during a webinar becomes advertising.

10:52:16 From Marcia Philbrick : A blogger (sorry, I don’t remember their name) has been commenting recently about also moving away from Facebook. She is concerned about the newer algorithms and the inability for people to see her posts. Is this a valid concern? [NOTE: Snopes debunks the “Only 26 Facebook friends” meme here:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/new-facebook-algorithm-26-friends

10:54:09 From Cousin Russ : Legacy Family Tree Webinars – Yearly Membership $49.95 $24.98 annually 1 year unlimited access to our recorded webinars at www.FamilyTreeWebinars.com . Also includes access to the instructors’ handouts, chat logs from live webinars, and 1 year of 5% off anything in the store (must be logged in at checkout), and a chance for a bonus subscribers-only door prize during each live webinar. https://legacy.familytreewebinars.com/legacy-family-tree-webinars-yearly-membership-p1.php
10:54:37 From Randy Seaver : I just renewed Family Tree Webinars.
10:54:47 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Legacy allows for members to use the discount as well. and if you are a member of Webinars, you get an additional 5% off.
10:55:14 From Cousin Russ : RECLAIM THE RECORDS #givingTuesday with Thomas’s matching funds. https://www.facebook.com/donate/179150333039525/179150356372856/
10:55:51 From Robbin Smith : mee
10:56:04 From Randi Patrick : I do and I still live in NY
10:56:06 From Marcia Philbrick : I have several lines going thru NY – pre 1850
10:56:19 From Robbin Smith : they also have done NJ records
10:56:30 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I renewed my Legacy Family subscription at the discounted rate. I have learn so much from the webinars.

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10:58:45 From DearMYRTLE https://www.rootstech.org

10:59:10 From Robbin Smith : New york Gen and bio society is having a sale on memberships also
10:59:27 From Marian Koalski : I agree— that collection has some marvelous webinars.
11:00:21 From Cousin Russ : Evidence Explained: The Problem-Solving Spiral https://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.shownmills/posts/1446454845485824
11:02:53 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Jewish Genealogy STudy Group = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cmgtjnf-0w_ozPlsrDTZLRWjb1Mh2lH9JUZ0mNrwE00/edit?usp=sharing
11:02:59 From Bill West : My research diagrams is a giant zig-zag because I am easily distracted by new “shineysS”
11:03:11 From Cousin Russ : Jewish Genealogy STudy Group = https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cmgtjnf-0w_ozPlsrDTZLRWjb1Mh2lH9JUZ0mNrwE00/edit?usp=sharing
11:04:32 From Dave Robison to All panelists : This is available in a Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle).
11:05:34 From Mary Lou Gravatt : When I see the spiral it makes me think of a spiral time line.
11:05:48 From Cousin Russ : This is available in a Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle).
11:08:40 From DearMYRTLE .Deborah Giddings won a copy of : Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle) https://www.amazon.com/Historical-Biographer%C2%92s-Cluster-Research-Principle/dp/0806318945

11:12:07 From Randy Seaver : https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/11/my-father-and-his-three-sons-in-1958.html

11:16:31 From Cousin Russ : Another “Sharing with Grandchildren” idea from Denise Levenick: Nixplay digital photo frame with 2GB cloud storage. Myrt bought 4. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078NQPCTR

NOTE: The cool thing is this: I can send a photo to all three of my daughters in one click using the Nixplay app on my cell phone. LOVE THIS!

11:16:43 From Cousin Russ : Letters to my Grandchild by Lea Redmond https://www.amazon.com/Letters-My-Grandchild-Treasure-Forever/dp/145214575X/ref=sr_1_1
11:18:10 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : https://www.facebook.com/thefamilycurator/posts/2120619267958133?__tn__=-R
11:18:20 From Cousin Russ : https://www.facebook.com/thefamilycurator/posts/2120619267958133?__tn__=-R
11:22:13 From Doris Haskell : What great quality for such an old snapshot!
11:25:16 From Bill West : I’m here! Waving
11:27:01 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I love seeing the old pictures. I want to share ancestors pictures from my family and my husband’s family. Not sure to start a blog or to share on Facebook.
11:27:52 From Valerie Elkins : My family uses group texts or Marco Polo with my siblings and we share different takes on the same events, as everyone has a different view on stories.
11:28:49 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’s Initial File Naming blog post — https://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2018/11/ftm2017-thought-on-media-file-naming.html
11:30:16 From Dave Robison to All panelists : How important are the underscores?
11:30:47 From DearMYRTLE . : Underscores for clarity.
11:31:30 From Randy Seaver : My file folder convention and file naming convention blog post is at https://www.geneamusings.com/2015/01/my-genealogy-digital-file-folder.html
11:32:44 From Marcia Philbrick : Do you create multiple files when the photo is of a group?
11:32:46 From Randy Seaver : I don’t use underscores or many spaces
11:33:13 From Randy Seaver : I put the same photo in several folders if a group photo
11:36:10 From bjanvier to All panelists : I use FTM. Use all caps for maiden name of women who marry me with the same surname so that I know that it is their maiden name and I have not made a mistake.
11:39:44 From Randy Seaver : If you don’t have a file folder system yet, think carefully about how you are going to order them so you can use them efficiently. I can click through to store a file in 5 seconds or less if the computer cooperates.
11:40:36 From Randy Seaver : Naming the saved or downloaded digital file takes some time too but is just as important as the file folder system.
11:40:59 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’s https://ftmuser.blogspot.com/2018/11/ftm2017-thought-on-media-file-naming_22.html
11:41:33 From Cousin Russ : J Paul Hawthorne discovered “Book and Film Numbers Used by the Family History Library” https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Book_and_Film_Numbers_Used_by_the_Family_History_Library
11:44:17 From Randi Patrick : Thank you!
11:44:32 From grahamwalter : Good session – v.interesting – thanks everyone
11:46:47 From Molly McKinley : I put the year of death first, then last name, first name and place for probate. I have way too many people with the same name. It keeps me in the right generation this way.
11:48:05 From Robbin Smith : avoid using the following special characters in file names: / : * ? “ < > | [ ] & $
11:48:54 From grahamwalter : very much a refresh rather than redo
11:50:52 From Doris Haskell : Yes. Legacy is designed to use links to you photos and documents stored on your hard drive.
11:54:32 From grahamwalter : After updates it’s a good idea to shutdown and then manual restart
11:55:06 From Doris Haskell : Yes. I shut mine down completely. There is a difference between Restart and the other.
11:55:15 From Robbin Smith : i have seen that behaviour before; i think it is due to an update problem
11:55:57 From Pat Kuhn : going to go see you all later
11:56:04 From Doris Haskell : I have some news on my long and difficult journey to find my neighbor’s biological parents.
11:56:32 From Doris Haskell : Yes. I agree with Graham.
11:57:39 From Robbin Smith : it is not advisable to perform 2 updates at once; do windows separately from chrome
11:57:56 From DearMYRTLE . : I hear you Robin.
11:57:59 From DearMYRTLE . : Robbin.
11:58:00 From DearMYRTLE . : 🙂
11:59:17 From Doris Haskell : Good point, Robbin.
12:00:03 From DearMYRTLE . : Doris, do you want to use your MIC? or come on the panel? Let us know.
12:00:11 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Time to go! Thanks and see you next week.
12:00:54 From Doris Haskell : Sure! Thanks.
12:01:02 From Doris Haskell : I’m on my iPad
12:01:31 From Doris Haskell : Yes
12:12:39 From grahamwalter : Have a great day everyone!


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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt 19 Nov 2018

MondaysWithMyrt

Biggest breakthroughs today? Persistent problems with AMTs and everyone teaches Ol’ Myrt here a thing or two about switching from .pdf to .png.

  • Problems with the newly indexed Ancestry Member Trees. This is particularly vexing. MyHeritage manages to index trees daily. Why does it take months for Ancestry to accomplish this? And why does Ancestry only point to trees that have an Ancestry.com image attached? This problem has gone on for over two years. We’re not evening mentioning the problems with links to indexed images returning a 404 error at least 50% of the time, regardless of end user operating system or web browser.
  • DAR & SAR – honoring Revolutionary War ancestors.
  • Newspapers.com – overcoming the “save as a .pdf” by choosing “print” then changing from your printer to your photo editing software of choice.
  • Grandparent books
  • Genealogy Do-Over
  • 1939 Register (England & Wales) and why lines are redacted.
  • RootsTech 2019 (SLC), RootsTech 2019 (London) and #notatRootsTech

 

 

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09:54:25 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Genealogy Bargains https://genealogybargains.com/
09:54:40 From Pat Kuhn : https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/77830208/person/46374370891/facts
10:00:40 From Hilary Gadsby : I have also been watching the videos today as I want to use the source writer in Legacy 9
10:01:04 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:02:02 From Lisa Gorrell : Good morning from smoky No. California. Working hard fighting a cold.
10:02:20 From grahamwalter : Hello everyone from London(ish)
10:02:44 From grahamwalter : cool
10:03:24 From Barbara Gressel : Good morning from Springfield, MO
10:03:58 From Pamela Wells to All panelists : Good morning from St Pete, FL
10:04:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello from Arkansas
10:04:52 From Robbin Smith : Hello from Miami
10:08:26 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Old Alabama Family Photos Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/136034463747952/
10:09:57 From Susan Ennis : Glad to be here with everyone!
10:17:20 From Marian Koalski : A penmanship award for SPEED! And that’s a pretty fabulous speed — faster than any typist I’ve heard of.
10:17:57 From Yvonne Demoskoff : That’s such a great idea for a grandparents book, Myrt!
10:18:08 From Cousin Russ : Blog post about an article from Newspaper.com USCGC Halfmoon (WHEC-378) and the Lobster Wars https://worthy2be.wordpress.com/2018/11/17/uscgc-halfmoon-whec-378-and-the-lobster-wars/
10:18:50 From Randy Seaver : That’s 4 words a second. How in the world? A Shorthand system? Readable?
10:20:17 From Randy Seaver : I’m lucky to write two letters a second, or type 4 letters a second.
10:20:21 From Marian Koalski : Some of my high school classmates took a Speed Writing class, which was a mixture of shorthand and abbreviations, I understand.
10:22:38 From Randy Seaver : Newspaper research is often the key to a breakthrough for family members. It’s why I do my weekly “Seavers in the News” posts on Thursdays.
10:23:16 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I found an article that my father-in-law found a ring when he was 12 years old and returned to the owners and received an award.
10:23:28 From Bill West : Good afternoon from overcast Massachusetts
10:23:38 From Lisa Gorrell : I love searching in newspapers. I wrote a blog post this past weekend about my great uncle, who I couldn’t find until I used his nickname “Toofer.” https://mytrailsintothepast.blogspot.com/2018/11/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks-week-46-random.html
10:23:41 From Deb Andrew : If you know the name of the newspapers for the area, you can choose those newspapers to search first.
10:24:45 From Deb Andrew : Yes
10:24:59 From Robbin Smith : many times i have seen the xx years ago
10:25:29 From Marian Koalski : Yes! A 1966 “looking backward” item about a great-uncle’s funeral in 1936 in another state was VERY helpful.
10:27:56 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Another article was about an accident that my grandfather had with his farm wagon and a bus in 1919. He was seriously injured my mom and aunt mentioned the accident they were not born yet. His injuries included broken leg and a fractured skull. I doubt that Mom and her sister knew the extent of his injuries.
10:29:22 From Lisa Gorrell : The problem with this, if the article is long, the print is really small.
10:29:46 From Deb Andrew : 19th November my anniversary. [HAPPY ANNIVERSARY DEB!]
10:29:57 From Deb Andrew : You can save it as a jpg.
10:30:27 From Randy Seaver : I use the Windows Snipping Tool to turn the PDF into a JPG so I can put it in a blog post.
10:31:17 From Randy Seaver : Lisa, sometimes I make 2 or 3 separate images so that the print is readable.
10:32:45 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hi Graham. I can see you
10:33:17 From Deb Andrew : If someone clicks on the source citation, it will take them to the article.
10:33:35 From Susan Ennis : I found out about my 2x great grandfather’s two patents (circa 1878) from newspaper articles!
10:33:40 From Graham Walter : Thanks Betty
10:34:47 From Marcia Philbrick : Shirley Player – fact question — Was this a miscellaneous fact in Roots Magic? [ No, Marcia, this was merely a search for the surname “Player” at Newspapers.com.]
10:35:10 From Betty-Lu Burton : We need to remember that in newspapers our ancestors names can be found many ways: nicknames, initials, child of, (or any relative of).
10:35:45 From Marian Koalski : And misspelled names, speaking from personal experience.
10:36:11 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I save as JPG to Ancestry then copy that as JPG to my computer. Also save as PDF to the computer.
10:37:52 From Betsey Cotter : Hit destination then select pdf
10:38:12 From Marcia Philbrick : If you use print/save and do a selection, it then gives you a choice of jpeg or pdf
10:38:59 From Marcia Philbrick : I have the option under Chrome
10:39:21 From Susan Ennis : Using Print/Save gives the options to SAVE as jpeg or pdf as contrasted to using the Clip feature. Works for me in these browsers: Firefox, Safari, and Chrome in my experience.
10:40:59 From Randy Seaver : Marcia’s tip is correct – Print/Save gets you to a “Save as JPG”
10:41:12 From Lisa Gorrell : I use Chrome. When I use Print/Save, I choose whole page, then I have two choices save as JPG and save as PDF. I save as PDF for whole page and then save as JPG for clipping.
10:41:25 From Marcia Philbrick : I’m using Chrome
10:41:54 From Marcia Philbrick : Is there a way to save Ancestry media as JPEG without having to save to the person first? [Yes, merely click Share>Print.]
10:44:12 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : welcome back Graham.
10:44:55 From Kathleen Daetsch : Since my family is from New York I use Fulton Press. I have found a great deal of information the Obituaries are a valuable resource in connecting family members.

10:45 :34 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry searches, specifically Ancestry Member Trees. See my blog post from last week is https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/11/good-news-and-bad-news-on-ancestry.html

My opinion is that Ancestry.com should index every person in every tree whether they have “Ancestry Sources” or not,  so that their customers can find information about their ancestors that other researchers have found.  Yes, I understand it’s a big computer challenge – but they’re a big company with many servers, and charge customers money to search all of their databases.  This is more BAD NEWS!

10:47:03 From Marcia Philbrick : My ‘test’ search used to produce 24 trees. Now, with the same search, I’m only getting about 3 trees. Those three trees change depending on how I structure the search.
10:47:18 From Marian Koalski : This failure in searching Ancestry Member Trees must cost DNA testers a LOT of useful contacts!
10:47:43 From Bill West : I agree, Randy!
10:48:01 From Marcia Philbrick : Yes, Marian! I do believe it is affecting DNA screens — shared ancestor hints and circles.
10:48:53 From Maria Tegtmeier : I conquer with Randy’s French
10:49:13 From Marcia Philbrick : My mom’s DNA test has more shaky leaf hints than I do. (about twice as many)
10:51:48 From Marian Koalski : A lot of tree contributors don’t do DNA testing. Won’t those be missed in Circles, etc., if the Member Tree doesn’t have an Ancestry source.
10:53:11 From Marcia Philbrick : There is a lot of collaboration opportunities that are lost when individuals or trees aren’t included in the indexing
10:53:53 From Bill West : IMHO, they are so focused on he DNA tests they are neglecting the family tree website
10:54:26 From Graham Walter : Good point Bill – certainly seems that way
10:54:39 From Marian Koalski : I’m about to non-renew my Ancestry subscription. Maybe I’ll mention the failing tree searches and the lack of new collections as reasons.
10:56:39 From Doris Haskell : JPEG
10:56:54 From Pamela Wells : jpeg
10:56:57 From Kathleen Daetsch : jpeg
10:57:43 From Cheryl : What is a PNG? How is it different from a TIFF? [ Ol’ Myrt Googled your question and found a multitude of great responses.]10:58:42 From Pamela Wells to All panelists : PNG format is a lossless compression file format, which makes it a common choice for use on the Web. PNG is a good choice for storing line drawings, text, and iconic graphics at a small file size. JPG format is a lossy compressed file format. This makes it useful for storing photographs at a smaller size than a BMP.
10:58:54 From Lisa Gorrell : I like that the date and page comes up first when saving. That’s how I start all of my images, then the name of the newspaper, and then the person of interest.
10:59:10 From Graham Walter : PNG – interpretation – http://webhub.com/dynhelp:viewTn:0:catalog=TnNote,id=whypng
10:59:16 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I always put them in a folder called ged docs and then I will put them in the proper folder later most of the time they never get out of the ged docs folder LOL
10:59:19 From bjanvier to All panelists : Is Snag It a free proram? Different than the clipping tool with MS Windows 10, right?
10:59:21 From Joanne Parkes : When I clip a newspaper article, I simultaneously transcribe the article and then save the clipping as source in RootsMagic using a copy the source title & the name of the person & save in their folder
10:59:53 From Joanne Parkes : Save as jpeg.
11:01:05 From Joanne Parkes : Use Macintosh Powerbook & the new version of IOW has a built in clipper called Screenshot
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11:01:24 From Cousin Russ :DearMYRTLE uses Snagit from https://www.techsmith.com
11:01:40 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Docent duty calls! I’ll see you next week.
11:01:51 From Marian Koalski : Macs also have a clipper called Grab among the standard applications that come with it.

11:03:20 From Cousin Russ : Sons of the American Revolution https://www.sar.org/

11:04:09 From Cousin Russ : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org
11:04:54 From DearMYRTLE . : Thank-you, Marian. 🙂
11:07:12 From Marian Koalski : Good work, Dave! Revitalizing your SAR chapter as well as your local gen Soc.
11:08:36 From Marian Koalski : DAR for me
11:08:37 From Robbin Smith : my people haven’t been here long enough
11:08:55 From bjanvier : I would like to contact Dave Robinson. Does he have a blog or email I could use? [NOTE: You’ll find Dave Robison on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/dave.robison1 ]
11:08:56 From Randy Seaver : I’ve lost my round tuit button for SAR and GSMD. I want to do those, but haven’t done it.
11:09:01 From Mary Buchholz t : I belong to DAR – with 2 Patriots and help in the application process for others.
11:09:05 From Sue Tolbert  : Yes DAR. Serving as Chapter Registrar is a great learning experience.
11:09:08 From Marcia Philbrick : My great-grandmother was in DAR. I joined on her application — but her patriot is in question. I had to go back a generation to join on his father.
11:09:18 From DearMYRTLE . : RootsTech 2019 SLC https://www.rootstech.org
11:09:20 From Crystal Toenjes : I’m turning in my DAR paperwork after Thanksgiving…FINALLY! Also working on my paperwork for ADEAW. (Associated Daughters of Early American Witches.)
11:09:54 From Marian Koalski : Sometimes you’ll find lineage societies for families who came later than the Revolution, like Pioneers of Franklin County, Iowa (made-up name).
11:11:49 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes I am!!
11:12:04 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : And I am registered and have my room reserved.
11:12:59 From Doris Haskell : I don’t ever want to stop being a Temple and Family History Consultant.
11:13:54 From Marcia Philbrick : #notatRootsTech is GREAT!
11:14:52 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hillary it sounds like you will be busy next year
11:15:04 From Graham Walter : https://one-name.org/events/
11:17:27 From Marian Koalski : More real wool!
11:19:11 From Marian Koalski : Hallelujah, John Laws! That is civilization!
11:20:29 From Randy Seaver : It’s always a challenge for this California kid. Snow is great, but ice is treacherous. It rained one year and had to walk from Marriott to Radisson pushing Linda’s wheelchair into the 40 mph wind and driving rain. Plus, going north is slightly uphill. Whew, tiring pushing the chair.

Legacy 9 Census

11:20:39 From DearMYRTLE . : Legacy Family Tree (software) https://familytreewebinars.com/legacy_videos.php
11:20:48 From Hilary Gadsby to Betty-Lu Burton and all panelists : I certainly will but I should be retiring the following year so work will not be getting in the way
11:21:29 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I think it is under the timeline, special properties.
11:21:34 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Geoff Rasmussen’s teaching style is better than so many I’ve seen. He paces it so you can see where he’s clicking before he moves on, and he explains why he chooses one option over another.
11:21:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Send Geoff a e-mail asking for a short webinar on the subject
11:22:34 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : The have the training videos you can buy.
11:22:37 From Hilary Gadsby : I have been watching the webinars today
11:22:53 From Bill West : I use the On This Date and Calendar functions in RM to post a daily family history post on FB
11:23:02 From Hilary Gadsby : for Legacy 9
11:23:10 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : You can always asked me.
11:23:25 From Jim Everhart : there is a step by step Legacy 9 series , 7 parts done already with 2 more to go

11:23:56 From Deb Andrew : I did that one, it was fun!

11:24:21 From Cousin Russ : University of Strathclyde https://www.strath.ac.uk/studywithus/centreforlifelonglearning/genealogy/
11:25:17 From Hilary Gadsby : I have done the 6 week course and may do the post grad course when I retire. I know someone who is doing the postgrad course

11:26:37 From Cousin Russ : Genealogy Do-Over Book https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Genealogy_Do_Over_Workbook.html?id=gIvkjwEACAAJ&source=kp_cover
11:27:59 From Hilary Gadsby : I am trying to improve what I uploaded to WikiTree 7 years ago but am easily sidetracked
11:28:01 From Randy Seaver : Surreptitious Name changes explain a lot too.
11:28:44 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I call them drop ins, they just fell from the sky.
11:29:03 From Randy Seaver : Interesting article today on Legacy Tree Genealogists blog about name changes https://www.legacytree.com/blog/name-changes-in-genealogy-research
11:29:26 From Cousin Russ : Genealogy Do-Over Book https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Genealogy_Do_Over_Workbook.html 
11:29:40 From Cousin Russ : Old Alabama Family Photos Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/136034463747952/

11:34:24 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I have a Ulster County New York Group, I have a great deal of my relations up there.
11:35:16 From Hilary Gadsby : Local groups are great place to find old photographs I belong to at least 1 for my home city.
11:37:07 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : yes
11:37:22 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : that is the group
11:38:09 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I also have two family groups on facebook
11:39:08 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : one is my Family in Ireland and England my grandmothers family
11:39:24 From Cousin Russ : If you are have genealogy methodogy, technology or research questions, be sure to consult Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 12,300+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list
11:39:50 From Doris Haskell : Thanks, everyone, for yet another Magnificent Mondays with Myrt
11:41:40 From DearMYRTLE : This is the link to Cousin Russ’ ingenious “The Organized Genealogist File Listing Directory” http://bit.ly/TheOrganizedGenealogistFILES
11:41:52 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : Is Lawlor the same name
11:45:56 From Graham Walter : Leila Davis born 1907
11:47:06 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I do that too
11:55:13 From Gordon Erickson to All panelists : Regarding the “cat” I didn’t say yes, I was outvoted. 🙂


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