As usual we discuss the latest genea-news that’s come across our desk including:

  • Relative Finder
  • Orphan Trains
  • Georgia Tann
  • Suggested info for tracing Tennessee Adoptions
  • Reasonably exhaustive research
  • Fake news about Facebook limiting our post views to 26 people
  • Legacy Family Tree Webinars – good way to spend your education dollars
  • RootsTech 2019 Salt Lake City 27 Feb-3 March 2-19 at the Salt Palace
  • Elizabeth Shown Mills’s “Evidence Explained: The Problem-Solving Spiral “



09:52:49 From Dave Robison to All panelists :
09:54:31 From Dave Robison to All panelists :
09:55:29 From John Laws : Hi everyone from a wet Scotland
09:56:32 From Pat Kuhn :
09:57:28 From Hilary Gadsby :
10:00:48 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:01:00 From grahamwalter : Hello all from London
10:01:03 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello Everyone. Not sure how long I will be able to stay
10:02:57 From Bill West : Good morning from soggy Massachusetts
10:03:00 From Marcia Philbrick : We had about 8 hours of snow with lots of wind. Most of the state of Kansas was under a blizzard warning at one time. According to a regional tv station, we had 10-12″ of snow. The airport at Kansas City had to close yesterday afternoon when the blizzard reached the metro area.
10:03:25 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : hello from sunny miami
10:03:40 From Cousin Russ :
10:05:27 From Pat Kuhn to All panelists : Space Balls!!!!
10:11:13 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : Ancestry uses their BIG tree for the We;’re Related app. They bragged about having 400 million profiles in the tree when they did that Genetic study earlier this month.
10:11:35 From Randy Seaver: They also use it for the “Potential Ancestor” hints
10:12:47 From Marcia Philbrick : Is Ancestry’s “Big Tree” based on their ‘World Tree’ efforts from years ago?
10:13:42 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Ancestry does you that big tree and most of mine is wrong when they do mine in the DNA section.
10:13:53 From Randy Seaver : maybe Marcia
10:15:37 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry uses their BIG tree for the We’re Related app. They bragged about having 400 million profiles in the tree when they did that Genetic study earlier this month. They also use it for the “Potential Ancestor” hints

10:16:43 From Cousin Russ :
10:17:01 From Bill West : Interesting site. I’ll take it with a large grain of salt.
10:17:06 From Randy Seaver : it behooves us to point out the errors in every one of the big trees and hope that Ancestry will correct their big tree. I guess I will make a list of the errors I find in my ancestry in the big Ancestry tree.
10:17:07 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : My sister-in-law was from Georgia Tann’s orphanage.

10:17:55 From Randy Seaver : Putting the errors in a blog post will help other researchers who happen to use a search engine in addition to other resources.
10:19:03 From Bev Anderson: There is a movie about her. “Stolen Babies”
10:19:36 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I can share screen.
10:19:39 From Marian Koalski : Tann must have been using blackmail on some of the hospital workers to get them to give up the babies that way.
10:20:40 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : ok, let’s get a document to handle this.
10:22:42 From Marcia Philbrick : Orphan Trains
10:23:40 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : She hired a PI in the 1990s to find her mom. Then, I helped her find her father through DNA.
10:24:03 From Marcia Philbrick : National Orphan Train Complex –
10:24:26 From Doris Haskell : We have an adoption situation in our family. So thankful that it is an open adoption and we have unlimited access to visit. The adoptive parents have become wonderful friends. Such a beautiful contrast.
10:24:29 From Dave Robison to All panelists : To get directions on how to track down the adoption records.
10:25:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : My grandmother had an adopted brother and thankfully it was easily to get his adoption paper. this was back in 1890 in Wisconsin.
10:26:31 From Marian Koalski : Orphan trains also happened in Canada with children from Britain.
10:27:00 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : There is a movie out right now about twins who were studied as lab rats. The movie is about a set of triplets. It wasn’t that long ago.
10:27:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : I feel in cases where the adoptions were not legal, such as the case in Tenn., at least the names and birthdates of the children should be made available
10:27:41 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I could discuss my Wordless Wednesday photo from last week and seeing my brother over the weekend. Blog post is
10:27:45 From Cousin Russ :
10:28:00 From Doris Haskell : We know someone who was adopted at birth in 1944, and the only paper ever created was the birth registration by her adoptive parents. So thankful for DNA!! Now she knows that she is the 2nd of 6 children on her mother’s side, and the eldest of 9 on her father’s side.
10:28:22 From John Laws to All panelists : I all ok Russ
10:35:07 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Check for the inquest records
10:36:45 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Maybe there is a newspaper report about the mining accident. There are records kept for miming records, for accidents and deaths.
10:37:46 From Doris Haskell : Would city directories fit in this time frame?
10:38:29 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Look at the state level for Annual Coal Report of the Pennsylvania Department of Mines and Minerals.
10:38:39 From Robbin Smith : i found city directory entries going back at least 1888 in NJ but that was in big city
10:39:39 From Marian Koalski : I’ve found a fair number of Pittston obituaries, marriages, etc. in the Wilkes-Barre papers, but mostly after 1895
10:41:03 From bjanvier to All panelists : When we do our “reasonably exhaustive search” we need to document everyone we have research so that people know that all records have been researched and analyzed – that “not my relative list”
10:43:38 From Robbin Smith : i use both excel and ancestry tree
10:44:16 From Dave Robison to All panelists : My blog on Georgia Tann:
10:44:27 From Marcia Philbrick : I have the various lines in my RM program. I have two James Crawford families living next to each other in Ohio. They were both married in KY within about 10 years of each other. I have traced descendants of both lines in order to separate the two families.
10:44:37 From bjanvier to All panelists : At this stage it is all on paper, but something like OneNote or Evernote would be good so that search capabilities could be used. Excel would work also.
10:44:37 From Cousin Russ : From Dave Robison — My blog on Georgia Tann:


10:49:25 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

10:50:34 From Cousin Russ : NOTE: As much as DearMYRTLE likes pseudonyms, please join this group and register for our webinars as yourself. If we permitted business names, every comment to a post or during a webinar becomes advertising.

10:52:16 From Marcia Philbrick : A blogger (sorry, I don’t remember their name) has been commenting recently about also moving away from Facebook. She is concerned about the newer algorithms and the inability for people to see her posts. Is this a valid concern? [NOTE: Snopes debunks the “Only 26 Facebook friends” meme here:

10:54:09 From Cousin Russ : Legacy Family Tree Webinars – Yearly Membership $49.95 $24.98 annually 1 year unlimited access to our recorded webinars at . Also includes access to the instructors’ handouts, chat logs from live webinars, and 1 year of 5% off anything in the store (must be logged in at checkout), and a chance for a bonus subscribers-only door prize during each live webinar.
10:54:37 From Randy Seaver : I just renewed Family Tree Webinars.
10:54:47 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Legacy allows for members to use the discount as well. and if you are a member of Webinars, you get an additional 5% off.
10:55:14 From Cousin Russ : RECLAIM THE RECORDS #givingTuesday with Thomas’s matching funds.
10:55:51 From Robbin Smith : mee
10:56:04 From Randi Patrick : I do and I still live in NY
10:56:06 From Marcia Philbrick : I have several lines going thru NY – pre 1850
10:56:19 From Robbin Smith : they also have done NJ records
10:56:30 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I renewed my Legacy Family subscription at the discounted rate. I have learn so much from the webinars.

RootsTech Generic
10:58:45 From DearMYRTLE

10:59:10 From Robbin Smith : New york Gen and bio society is having a sale on memberships also
10:59:27 From Marian Koalski : I agree— that collection has some marvelous webinars.
11:00:21 From Cousin Russ : Evidence Explained: The Problem-Solving Spiral
11:02:53 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Jewish Genealogy STudy Group =
11:02:59 From Bill West : My research diagrams is a giant zig-zag because I am easily distracted by new “shineysS”
11:03:11 From Cousin Russ : Jewish Genealogy STudy Group =
11:04:32 From Dave Robison to All panelists : This is available in a Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle).
11:05:34 From Mary Lou Gravatt : When I see the spiral it makes me think of a spiral time line.
11:05:48 From Cousin Russ : This is available in a Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle).
11:08:40 From DearMYRTLE .Deborah Giddings won a copy of : Quick Sheet: “The Historical Biographer’s Guide to Cluster Research (the FAN Principle)

11:12:07 From Randy Seaver :

11:16:31 From Cousin Russ : Another “Sharing with Grandchildren” idea from Denise Levenick: Nixplay digital photo frame with 2GB cloud storage. Myrt bought 4.

NOTE: The cool thing is this: I can send a photo to all three of my daughters in one click using the Nixplay app on my cell phone. LOVE THIS!

11:16:43 From Cousin Russ : Letters to my Grandchild by Lea Redmond
11:18:10 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists :
11:18:20 From Cousin Russ :
11:22:13 From Doris Haskell : What great quality for such an old snapshot!
11:25:16 From Bill West : I’m here! Waving
11:27:01 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I love seeing the old pictures. I want to share ancestors pictures from my family and my husband’s family. Not sure to start a blog or to share on Facebook.
11:27:52 From Valerie Elkins : My family uses group texts or Marco Polo with my siblings and we share different takes on the same events, as everyone has a different view on stories.
11:28:49 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’s Initial File Naming blog post —
11:30:16 From Dave Robison to All panelists : How important are the underscores?
11:30:47 From DearMYRTLE . : Underscores for clarity.
11:31:30 From Randy Seaver : My file folder convention and file naming convention blog post is at
11:32:44 From Marcia Philbrick : Do you create multiple files when the photo is of a group?
11:32:46 From Randy Seaver : I don’t use underscores or many spaces
11:33:13 From Randy Seaver : I put the same photo in several folders if a group photo
11:36:10 From bjanvier to All panelists : I use FTM. Use all caps for maiden name of women who marry me with the same surname so that I know that it is their maiden name and I have not made a mistake.
11:39:44 From Randy Seaver : If you don’t have a file folder system yet, think carefully about how you are going to order them so you can use them efficiently. I can click through to store a file in 5 seconds or less if the computer cooperates.
11:40:36 From Randy Seaver : Naming the saved or downloaded digital file takes some time too but is just as important as the file folder system.
11:40:59 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’s
11:41:33 From Cousin Russ : J Paul Hawthorne discovered “Book and Film Numbers Used by the Family History Library”
11:44:17 From Randi Patrick : Thank you!
11:44:32 From grahamwalter : Good session – v.interesting – thanks everyone
11:46:47 From Molly McKinley : I put the year of death first, then last name, first name and place for probate. I have way too many people with the same name. It keeps me in the right generation this way.
11:48:05 From Robbin Smith : avoid using the following special characters in file names: / : * ? “ < > | [ ] & $
11:48:54 From grahamwalter : very much a refresh rather than redo
11:50:52 From Doris Haskell : Yes. Legacy is designed to use links to you photos and documents stored on your hard drive.
11:54:32 From grahamwalter : After updates it’s a good idea to shutdown and then manual restart
11:55:06 From Doris Haskell : Yes. I shut mine down completely. There is a difference between Restart and the other.
11:55:15 From Robbin Smith : i have seen that behaviour before; i think it is due to an update problem
11:55:57 From Pat Kuhn : going to go see you all later
11:56:04 From Doris Haskell : I have some news on my long and difficult journey to find my neighbor’s biological parents.
11:56:32 From Doris Haskell : Yes. I agree with Graham.
11:57:39 From Robbin Smith : it is not advisable to perform 2 updates at once; do windows separately from chrome
11:57:56 From DearMYRTLE . : I hear you Robin.
11:57:59 From DearMYRTLE . : Robbin.
11:58:00 From DearMYRTLE . : 🙂
11:59:17 From Doris Haskell : Good point, Robbin.
12:00:03 From DearMYRTLE . : Doris, do you want to use your MIC? or come on the panel? Let us know.
12:00:11 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Time to go! Thanks and see you next week.
12:00:54 From Doris Haskell : Sure! Thanks.
12:01:02 From Doris Haskell : I’m on my iPad
12:01:31 From Doris Haskell : Yes
12:12:39 From grahamwalter : Have a great day everyone!

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