We meet for the first time in 2019 and discuss MyHeritageDNA, then connection issues between Ancestry’s 2-step verification process and had not considered the API with RootsMagic and Family Tree Maker genealogy desktop software. Our friend Anna Mathews reports on Helmut Film Scanner app we mentioned briefly last week. THANK-YOU, Anna. 🙂 We hear from Hilary Gadsby about the new FindMyPast smart phone app.



10:00:01 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : Here is my Finding Your Roots post –
10:00:55 From grahamwalter : Happy New Year everyone from London
10:00:56 From Randy Seaver : Hello world…
10:01:15 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Good morning from British Columbia, Canada!
10:01:15 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : Hello, everyone! Signing in from Virginia!
10:01:18 From Susan Ennis : Hello from Western Pennsylvania!
10:01:31 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Hello from New Jersey.
10:01:32 From Pamela Wells : Good morning all!
10:01:59 From Michelle Minner : good morning from chilly and wet Arizona! (very rare)
10:02:00 From Frances Stein : Greetings from Tampa Bay, Florida! Happy New Year!
10:02:03 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : My blog Into the LIGHT –
10:02:11 From Susan Ennis : Interesting comments (some lengthy) in response to Ancestry Blog’s January 1st post!
10:02:35 From Marian Koalski : What about those WPA bridges?
10:02:58 From Betty-Lu Burton to All panelists : Hello from warm Arkansas
10:04:24 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Good good year and day to one and all form frosty Coventryville NY!!
10:05:17 From Bill West : Gooood morning from sunny and cold Massachusetts!
10:07:53 From Betty-Lu Burton : thank you for the reminder
10:08:46 From Cousin Russ :
10:08:52 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : IT’s OK renate!
10:08:57 From Michelle Minner : Which state? most states have a Springfield!~ LOL
10:09:04 From Doris Haskell : Since this is the beginning of the new year, and people are organizing files and photos, maybe we can address ways to put our name on our photos.
10:09:51 From Doris Haskell : Massachusetts
10:10:06 From Cousin Russ :
10:10:34 From Cousin Russ :
10:10:55 From Marian Koalski : Good idea, Doris!
10:12:24 From Michelle Minner : I am in the process of cleaning up all of my media files and renaming! BIG job!
10:13:57 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders: Black ProGen Live

10:15:06 From Bill West : For those who asked, it’s Springfield, Ma.

Focused Research
10:18:44 From Cousin Russ : FOCUSED RESEARCH vs Information Overload with DearMYRTLE & Cousin Russ. “Overwhelmed by 3.45 million results of a Google Search? This webinar explains three proven methods for balancing ‘staying on task’ with serendipitous findings. No more falling down rabbit holes following those bright shiny objects.”
10:18:45 From cyndy Bray : That webinar was very helpful, Myrt

10:19:51 From Randy Seaver : Industry benchmark numbers in
10:20:17 From Randy Seaver: Genealogy website rankings in
10:20:51 From Randy Seaver: My best 2018 research finds in

10:21:27 From Cousin Russ :
10:23:03 From Randy Seaver : I get the FMP Hints for my tree people in RootsMagic un the WebHints. Haven’t tried the app yet. TMINET.
10:25:08 From Devon Noel Lee : Randy, that’s where I find my FMP hints as well. RootsMagic is my one stop shop for hints.
10:25:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : I like it when a program lets you see the last 5 or 10 people you looked at
10:26:16 From Randy Seaver : I agree, Devon. I just wish that the FamilySearch FamilyTree Hints that are confirmed would open like the Pending Hints open so I can see the record and the source.
10:29:18 From Devon Noel Lee : Try Leonard Hill’s lightbulb
10:30:33 From John Laws : Hi Everyone I’m out in the ether sadly still fighting off a nasty stomach bug it is bitterly cold in Scotland which don’t help Like to wish you all health peace and happiness thro’ 2019
10:31:17 From grahamwalter : and a good new year to you John – get well soon
10:31:32 From Cousin Russ : RootsMagic
10:32:50 From Cousin Russ :
110:35:13 From Devon Noel Lee : I found a document for my Accredited Genealogist project on FMP – Historical Society of Pennsylvania, Marriages Image. It’s a book that has been indexed on that site, but it was pretty cool.
10:35:50 From Randy Seaver : so the Scan-a-thon is to get rid of our genea-rrhoids?
10:36:32 From Marian Koalski : @Susan Ennis, thanks for the link to the Ancestry discussion. Very interesting
10:36:33 From Devon Noel Lee : Oh intestate! That was a fun record
10:37:19 From Cousin Russ : PWYW In 2019. So it’s simple. If you value the work Ol’ Myrt, +Cousin Russ and our beloved panelists do week in and week out on your behalf, please PWYW via PayPal, debit or credit card here. Thank you!
10:37:33 From Cousin Russ : .
10:38:26 From Randy Seaver : Intestate probate records in 19th and 20th century are great because they usually name all of the heirs and their addresses and relationships.

10:38:57 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : Drew Smith’s Organize Your Genealogy: Strategies and Solutions for Every Researcher:

10:40:54 From Devon Noel Lee : I’m a minimalist, so I have almost everything in a computer. This helps me always have everything I need in electronic form. I ralrey use pen and pencil.
10:41:28 From Devon Noel Lee : I’m not sure how to turn on the video. Sorry
10:41:29 From Hilary Gadsby : I have 2 pen holders on my desk
10:41:36 From Michelle Minner : Same here Devon! I have worked/installed/trained on computer since 1977…so I don’t’ have a cup of pens! LOL
10:42:04 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : It’s funny, I never even thought about the fact that I have one in every room until now. I even have one out on my piano!
10:42:57 From Cousin Russ :
10:43:03 From Randy Seaver : I have a cup of pens just so my wife can find them in the genea-cave. Also holds my scissors
10:43:21 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : Yep, mine have scissors, also, Russ. 🙂
10:44:03 From Yvonne Demoskoff : I use two cups for pens, markers, scissors on my research desk because it doesn’t have drawers.
10:44:03 From Doris Haskell : I just made a screenshot
10:44:29 From Sherry Wilmes : As an Omaha native, visiting for Christmas, I visited the Mormon Trail Heritage Center, was connected with Sister Terry Gatley at the Council Bluffs Center who provided me with several links to information about a 5x great-grandfather who was in a very early Mormon party that left (probably) the Winter Quarters in the Daniel Spencer along the Elkhorn River, 1847.
10:44:50 From grahamwalter : Hiya
10:44:57 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hi you
10:45:27 From Doris Haskell : Not much here in the banana belt, but go a little north, and they have a bunch.
10:45:30 From Betty-Lu Burton : Yeah Lisa Gorrell. Congratulations! [She is now a CG (certified genealogist), see
10:45:32 From Valerie Lisk : Congratulations Lisa!
10:45:43 From grahamwalter : Congratulations Lisa
10:45:44 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : Congrats, Lisa!
10:45:52 From cyndy Bray : Congratulations Lisa
10:45:52 From Pamela Wells : Congrats, Lisa!
10:45:56 From Jenny Hawran : Congratulations Lisa! That’s fantastic
10:45:57 From Hilary Gadsby : Congratulations Lisa
10:45:58 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Congratulations again Lisa.
10:46:06 From Doris Haskell : Lisa, that’s wonderful. Congratulations!
10:46:12 From Cousin Russ : Dorothy – do you have a question ?
10:46:31 From John Laws to All panelists : Went on the earlier hangout with Lisa Alzo sandly felt bad and went to bed
10:46:32 From Molly McKinley : Pretty much, thanks
10:46:41 From Lisa Gorrell : Thanks, everyone!
10:47:20 From Susan Ennis : Don’t know whether to scan paper notes from the 1990s or to type into my online notebooks!
10:47:25 From grahamwalter : 🙂
10:47:33 From Betty-Lu Burton : A disorganized mind that can only handle a couple of things at a time
10:47:51 From Marian Koalski : I have that “flat surface syndrome,” too, Dave
10:48:07 From Hilary Gadsby : I have been putting my books on Library thing as I can easily scan them in using the phone
10:48:28 From Devon Noel Lee to All panelists : Time management is my greatest organizational challenge.
10:48:46 From Marian Koalski : Yes, a scanned document is a lot easier to find when you need it than a piece of paper.
10:48:53 From Randy Seaver : My floor paper piles hinder my access to my bookcase binder and paper piles
10:48:55 From Bill West : My biggest problem is I keep finding new shiny stuff before i’ve finished filing things I’ve found already. It’s a never ending problem, but a nice one!
10:49:00 From Hilary Gadsby : I need to get my computer organised so I don’t have duplicates
10:50:18 From Susan Ennis : You can use a research question to focus your time.
10:50:20 From Randy Seaver : Prioritizing and time estimating are critical
10:50:46 From Michelle Minner : I learned that I don’t know how to estimate time when searching in the FHL! that was critical, and I failed!
10:51:11 From Mary Lou Gravatt : My problem is getting photos scanned. I have all of my parents photos, my -in-law photos and all ours. Includes boxes of my parents slides. Where did all the extra time I thought I would have when I retire go.
10:51:50 From Randy Seaver : I added a “To be filed” folder on the computer to save things I find before I blog about them or use them. Otherwise, I don’t have any idea if I’ve blogged about a record or a person unless I search the blog.
10:51:51 From Betty-Lu Burton : I am doing a Do-Over by building my family history using the hints from Ancestry.
10:53:14 From Dave Robison : I just bought that printer/scanner!! I installed it a couple of days ago.
10:53:53 From Michelle Minner : Dave, I have a similar printer (canon) and I use the scanner more than the printing! LOL Only my scanner is a flat bed, so I can scan books, magazines, etc.
10:54:01 From Marian Koalski : Why DOESN’T an all-in-one work with those things?
10:54:15 From Randy Seaver : I just bought a similar HP printer before Christmas
10:54:37 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : I use my all in one for those things but it’s a slooooooow process.
10:55:31 From Michelle Minner : All of you have given me a GREAT idea..that will help with my organization (having my all-in-one) and file shelf close to my computer, which they are not close now.
10:55:35 From Marian Koalski : You’re right, Renate. The scanner at the library is faster
10:55:54 From Randy Brown : Suggest you look at the book; Getting Things Done by David Allen for Time Management ideas
10:56:44 From Susan Ennis : LOVE Evernote!
10:58:41 From grahamwalter : Getting Things Done by David Allen and Evernote is my main methodology
10:58:42 From Launa Droescher to All panelists : I’m sending my saved files in groups to Evernote, things that I saved from internet or scanned
10:59:27 From Devon Noel Lee to All panelists : Love the Table Top Studio. I used a cardboard box and tissue paper DIY light tent before, but I REALLY love the collapsible, portable studio.
10:59:51 From Bill West : The first item on my To Do list is to start a To Do list.
11:00:16 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : Ha ha… I like that Bill. 🙂
11:00:26 From Valerie Lisk : I saw a webinar by someone who said if you find a document online, at least make a digital copy of it because when the website renegotiates their contract, they may have to take those documents down
11:01:03 From grahamwalter : Hey Bella
11:01:06 From Jenny Hawran : Aww, hi Bella!
11:01:21 From Devon Noel Lee to All panelists : You can use a full tripod and I love mounting the box on a ironing board so I can stand or sit and the set up raises and lowers. My tripod then raises and lowers based on my need to sit or stand.
11:01:28 From Valerie Lisk : Michelle, I have a similar one.
11:01:47 From John Laws to All panelists : Bella is the image of our ol’ Danny miss him still
11:02:00 From Launa Droescher : Love cat sitting because I can not keep cat anymore
11:02:49 From Sharon Morrissey : Can’t wait to hear how you make out, Randy.
11:03:53 From Dave Robison : I’ve been using Library Thing for quite a while and I “think” I have every volume accounted for.
11:05:07 From Betty-Lu Burton : I have considered doing 2 to-do list. One main one that lists everything and I add new things to and a smaller one with just a few things on it, to work on first. that way I only have to look at the long list every week or so to repopulate the small list.
11:07:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Having a mobile scanner such as Flip-Pal or using app on your phone can help you scan those photos
11:07:17 From John Laws to All panelists : Too busy to work
11:08:18 From Hilary Gadsby : I have a scanner that can scan negatives and slides
11:08:21 From Randy Seaver : Betty Lu – you really need to SEARCH from your Ancestry Member Tree profile for a person to find all of the records they have – Ancestry Hints use only the largest 10% of their collections.
11:09:26 From Pamela Wells : Trying to determine the best way to manage my DNA tests for the 30 friends and family’s DNA they’ve taken. Looking for an Excel or Numbers template to use that could help me organize the top tier with the highest amount of centimorgans and largest segments. If anyone knows of such a template I could adapt, I would appreciate it. Thank you for any suggestions you might have.
11:11:18 From Barbara Gressel : I bought my flatbed scanner several years ago. When I bought it, I got one that will scan legal sized documents. It has come in handy several times. I also use my phone app called CamScan. It takes good photos but I have trouble getting the lighting right in some locations.
11:11:52 From Anne B. Wagner : Is it the Albinar High Load Copy Macro Stand?
11:11:56 From Devon Noel Lee to All panelists : Dana Leeds
11:11:57 From Randy Seaver : Dana Leeds
11:12:09 From Valerie Lisk : Pamela when you download the matches, doesn’t it download into a file that can be opened with Excel?
11:12:16 From Valerie Lisk : Leeds mode?
11:12:17 From Devon Noel Lee  :
11:12:29 From Pamela Wells : Thank you all for this info….I appreciate the help.
11:13:07 From Betty-Lu Burton : Randy I will do the search after I have done the low hanging trees. I am doing the do over because my tree is disorganized and it is helping me to get organized
11:13:40 From Sherry Wilmes to All panelists : On Amazon, I found Dewey the Document Camera Stand with Microscope and Light. Using my iPad Pro, I copied all of the photos and treasures. I did have to wait for morning light to manage the process, but it worked quickly and well.
11:14:01 From Pamela Wells : Great ideas! Thank you!
11:14:20 From Devon Noel Lee to All panelists : Sorry… Time to take care of the kids. See you in a few weeks.
11:14:33 From Marian Koalski : My advice for organizing a pile of things: Don’t sort. Take the first item from the top, process it into your database, and then (scan &) file it. It will get sorted bit by bit.
11:14:42 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Myrt and Russ!
11:14:58 From Pamela Wells : I am beginning to learn it…..
11:15:06 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists :
11:15:12 From Valerie Lisk : I love dnapainter!
11:15:23 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders : I use it. 🙂
11:15:59 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : I found one like your stand in Amazon called Postermater Copy stand”
11:16:59 From Maria Tegtmeier  :
11:17:02 From Valerie Lisk : It helps me determine which part of the chromosome is maternal or paternal and if you have known cousins, it will help you determine which ancestor the cousin is related to or if they are a double cousin.
11:18:27 From Renate Yarborough-Sanders to All panelists : Ready when you are
11:18:57 From Cousin Russ :

11:23:28 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : Photo copy stand, I suggest you use a base oi peg board on top of a box with a hole in the side with a shop vacuum cleaner to create a suction to hold the object to the pegboard. Used this for years.
11:23:58 From DearMYRTLE . to Jim Everhart and all panelists : want to come on the panel or just talk?
11:24:31 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : I can explain this suggestion if you want
11:24:48 From DearMYRTLE . to Jim Everhart and all panelists : ok, Russ, bring him up on the panel.
11:25:50 From John Laws to All panelists : Hiya Jim
11:25:58 From Pamela Wells : Blaine has a great youtube video available where he shows how DNA Painter works.
11:27:43 From grahamwalter : Blaine vid –
11:27:49 From Valerie Lisk : Legacy Family Tree Webinars has a webinar scheduled for DNAPainer in 2019.
11:28:36 From Pamela Wells : Yes, this is it!
11:28:49 From John Laws : Same system used by silkscreen printers
11:29:16 From Pamela Wells : Well, there is a free one I’m looking for that Blaine has, too [ NOTE: His website is The Genetic Genealogist
11:29:25 From Cousin Russ :
11:30:03 From Frances Stein : “Finding Your Roots” – new season begins on PBS tomorrow!
11:31:19 From Randy Seaver : List of Finding Your Roots episodes in
11:31:47 From Cousin Russ : Tony Proctor’s Organizing More Resources [NOTE: We will discuss this for WACKY Wednesday!]
11:32:46 From Doris Haskell : Notice that ad for We’ll Meet Again in the lower left corner.
11:33:33 From Hilary Gadsby : I am going to use Tony’s program to help me get just one copy of anything I download
11:33:53 From Doris Haskell : I had planned to have all my genealogy in the family room downstairs. However, that’s where the wood burning stove is, and it’s far away from Richard.
11:34:45 From Doris Haskell : The kitchen table has become genealogy central. Not so great. We could bring the spare bedroom upstairs, and put his office downstairs.
11:36:10 From John Laws : You guys keep me going
11:36:21 From Pamela Wells : Thank you all for all you do!!!!
11:37:37 From John Laws : Are fall asleep so easy
11:39:15 From Doris Haskell : Thank you everyone! Once again, I thought to get a drink from the fountain, and the fire hydrant opened up.
11:42:10 From Denise Coughlin : that would be great Dave! We are toying with the idea of virtual meetings too
11:42:45 From Dave Robison to Denise Coughlin and all panelists : Contact me anytime at
11:49:42 From grahamwalter : Have a great day everyone

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