In which we discuss MetaProxy, the fiasco with FTDNA changing it’s terms of service, Lucient Chart and other tools for mapping family relationships.
- 09:44:49 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Tony has updated MetaProxy so you can automatically get meta files created just been trying it.
10:00:27 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I have just accepted a new post on WikiTree as a regional coordinator for South East England. I will say more when I know what I am doing. [CONGRATS, Hilary!]
10:01:13 From Graham Walter : Hello everyone from London
10:01:46 From Robbin Smith : Good Day from Miami
10:02:00 From Michelle Minner : Morning from Tucson, Arizona
10:02:10 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Good morning from cloudy Florida.
10:02:49 From Linda Stufflebean : Hello from Tucson, AZ.
10:03:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Has a ‘meeting’ with Darris Williams (Utah) on Saturday to discuss a meet up at RootsTech
10:04:19 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Hello from South Louisiana.
10:04:38 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Gary Gauthier here from “Oh so cold Calgary, Alberta -27C)
10:05:05 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I’m not seeing he people on the big screen
10:05:29 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Randy – you won’t
10:05:35 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I have an unusual tale of tracing living relatives that folks might find amusing 🙂
10:05:48 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Its a chicklet in the Webinar
10:05:51 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : oh…why not?
10:06:14 From Graham Walter : Hi Gary: 8 in London
10:06:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good day everyone
10:07:02 From Cousin Russ : https://westmagenealogy.com/
10:07:20 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Hi Tony
10:08:18 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Here’s some Canadian news: the 1926 Prairie Provinces census can now be browsed at FamilySearch (Gail Dever of Genealogy a la Carte announced it on her blog this morning)
10:09:18 From Janine Edmée Hakim : One word guys….Instant Pot
10:11:29 From Cousin Russ : One Pot Meals for Busy Genealogists Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OnePotMeals4BusyGenealogists/
10:11:57 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : My stomach is starting to rumble now …
10:12:59 From Graham Walter : This is so cruel this close to meal time 🙂
10:14:27 From Randy Seaver : when can we order these meals from MyrtDash or WendyDash?
10:17:08 From Hilary Gadsby : I have the old style pressure cooker that I use.
10:17:45 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Judy Russel link https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2019/02/01/opening-the-dna-floodgates/
10:19:20 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Portable Soup- you can find almost anything on Wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_soup
10:19:49 From Michelle Minner : I was angry, because they changed their terms of service with no notice!
10:19:53 From Doris Haskell : Don’t they have to have a warrant? And isn’t it on a case-by-case basis?
10:20:00 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Big brothers is always there…in today’s world with the internet we are just better at keeping up with the changes.
10:20:04 From cyndy Bray : Don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not happy
10:20:46 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : This is why I haven’t had my DNA tested. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
10:20:47 From Shelley Murphy : I am angry about it. That is not what I signed up for.
10:20:52 From John Laws to All panelists : like to join the panel
10:21:20 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : If we OPT out now, does that take away the information that they already have?
10:21:49 From John Laws : breach of contract?
10:22:21 From Cousin Russ : John, you ARE on the Panel
10:22:35 From Randy Seaver : all they have is the match data. FBI or LE isn’t getting anyone’s raw DNA. They are seeing matches like all of us see.
10:22:44 From Michelle Minner : I totally agree, I don’t mind sharing my DNA (especially for law enforcement)…I don’t like not being asked…and not being told that they were going to open up the information.
10:23:37 From John Laws : thank you sir
10:23:55 From Randy Seaver : GEDmatch didn’t change their TOS until it was revealed that LE was using it after the Golden State Killer event.
10:23:58 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I agree about the T&C being changed without notice. I’d be happy to share results with law enforcement, but can you guarantee that’s where it stops? There are people who do not agree as a matter of principle, but suppose that insurance companies got access
10:24:26 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Hilary, I hope you’ll come to the Facebook group and share your expertise with pressure cooking. It’s intimidating for so many new users.
10:24:27 From Hilary Gadsby : Even if they mentioned it previously they should have told everyone when this change was being made.
10:25:23 From Michelle Minner : is user anyone at all? or is user a paid subscription? I need definitions to feel more comfortable
10:25:30 From Hilary Gadsby to Wendy Gunderson and all panelists : I am in the facebook group so happy to share what I can.
10:26:11 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : bushwhacked aka sidelined aka snookered aka backdoored
10:26:25 From John Laws : makes you wonder who else gets to take a look perhaps russian security?
10:27:51 From Marian Koalski : Maybe we should ask ourselves about all kinds of online services: “Are we letting someone else hold our wallet?” (Or other private or treasured asset?)
10:29:42 From John Laws : I don’t see how the EU thing applies outside Europe we get out when we leave
10:29:53 From Graham Walter : Clarity of communication is what is needed
10:30:14 From Michelle Minner : I WAS surprised by an NPE, and I don’t want to share that DNA, by the request of the family member that doesn’t want anyone to know about the NPE involving her DNA test. However, I don’t like the company changing it without notice. I only opted out for that one DNA test.
10:30:49 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think people do not understand that law enforcement must still do a lot of leg work. The DNA does not give them a definite match until after the detective work
10:31:35 From Linda Stufflebean : I am not happy about ftDNA’s sneaky method, although I don’t mind them using my DNA to catch criminals either. On the other hand, given the adage that once something is online, we lose control of it fits here so it sadly isn’t all that surprising.
10:32:12 From Randy Seaver : two sets of detective work – first to find descendants of a common ancestor, second to sort out the descendants to find the right person.
10:33:48 From Graham Walter : Can you send some chicken over to London?
10:34:47 From Cousin Russ : https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:35:11 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Graham, maybe we can invent a new “portable” chicken app!
10:35:15 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
10:35:47 From Graham Walter : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:36:08 From Cousin Russ : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
10:36:18 From Cousin Russ : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:36:27 From John Laws : I have a beef with FMP my membership of Ancestry shows up regardless whether I go on dot co uk or dot com but doesn’t work with FMP
10:36:29 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Thank-you, Graham.
10:36:43 From Hilary Gadsby : I am waiting for the records in Southampton, England to be online as my 2xgt grandparents married in the catholic church and their family were catholics.
10:37:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Wendy: good idea!
10:40:56 From John Laws : Not all registries or churches give permission to digitizing of their records and some churches haven’t released their records to the county record offices yet and still keep them in cold damp vestries
10:42:22 From Robbin Smith : What irritates me is that *not* all the records from St. Peters on Staten Island have been added and of course that those are the records I need
10:45:56 From Janine Edmée Hakim : the borough of Manhattan is New York County
10:45:56 From Graham Walter : FindMyPast datasets for U.S. records https://search.findmypast.co.uk/historical-records?page=1®ion=united%20states%20%26%20canada&searchedrecordsetname=
10:46:35 From Cathy Naborowski : FMP has an agreement with these Archdiocese. Jen Baldwin did a great webinar – I think on FMP a whle back talking about the process they are going through.
10:46:45 From Randy Seaver : My guess is that when Josh Taylor was with FMP he tried to contract digitizing the church records that FamilySearch doesn’t have.
10:47:24 From Robbin Smith : I did send an email to FMP and they said they will be updated .. still waiting
10:47:27 From John Laws : surprised just how many children are registered without the father’s name and the mother and child have the same surname since WWI. Of course we had always had illegitimacy
10:47:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Fading away! Battery warning…. See you all next week…
10:48:02 From Graham Walter : have a good day Dave
10:48:28 From John Laws : they consider the records to be their personal records how dare you want to know anything
10:48:40 From Hilary Gadsby : Not sure if catholics do transcripts in the UK
10:49:36 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Pat, I’ve had some success walking into a church’s office and speaking with the secretary. I was able to view my grandfather’s baptism record (1889) in Quebec that way.
10:50:56 From Randy Seaver : This is a great example of how “not everything is online.” There will never be “all records online.”
10:50:57 From John Laws : maybe the mice had thanksgiving lunch on the records
10:51:56 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Find My Past is a subscription site??
10:52:08 From Randy Seaver : yes Shelby
10:52:19 From Cousin Russ : FindMyPast Blog https://blog.findmypast.com/
10:52:31 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Ok – have an account already registered, but it wants more $$
10:52:40 From Graham Walter : Some of the pages launch your smartphone browser but if it’s you online tree it’s sync to phone
10:53:03 From Randy Seaver : and FMP now accesses the FamilySearch Family Tree to help find common ancestors for DNA matches.
10:55:13 From Graham Walter : You can also do Newspapers directly at British NEwspaper Archives https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
10:58:12 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry Search Engine Problems from my correspondent – link is https://www.geneamusings.com/2019/01/a-readers-take-on-ancestrycom-problems_30.html
11:00:08 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : This is annoying to hear, but I’m glad I’m not going crazy.
11:01:20 From Valerie Lisk : I liked the HeritageQuest search engine before Ancestry bought them. You could browse on the County level or you could browse by Institution.
11:04:51 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit software is not the only way of solving this. That’s a little like a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
11:07:24 From Cousin Russ : RootsMagic https://rootsmagic.com/
11:10:13 From Cousin Russ : discussion of Tony Proctor’s MetaProxy program https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10161407529775374
11:13:10 From John Laws : Thats pretty good eh!
11:13:59 From Randy Seaver : love Tony’s fractal screen
11:17:25 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : The Mac version of MetaProxy is progressing along the same lines.
11:18:30 From Cousin Russ : https://www.lucidchart.com
11:19:48 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Is this a web-based analog of Visio?
11:20:01 From Graham Walter : Gary: yes
11:20:33 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Try this – FREE with sign up https://online.visual-paradigm.com/features/flowchart-tool/
11:20:42 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Thanks, Russ.
11:20:54 From Graham Walter : It allows to import Visio files as well
11:21:08 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Graham,. Thanks to you too.
11:21:37 From Graham Walter : Pricing model = https://www.lucidchart.com/user/129854395#/subscriptionLevel
11:21:45 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Dia is another similar generic drawing package for data relationship diagrams. The SVG designer is far simpler, and free, but Windows specific
11:22:20 From Hilary Gadsby : My favourite for the UK is http://www.genuki.org.uk/
11:23:09 From Graham Walter : Genuki – Definitely a good one!
11:23:21 From Cousin Russ : One of my favorites for Florida interest – Florida Memory Project – http://www.floridamemory.com
11:23:23 From Randy Seaver : Favorite go-to site for help — FamilySearch Research Wiki – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Main_Page
11:23:42 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Have to depart for one of those pesky business meetings…cheers and happy day everyone!
11:25:47 From Randy Seaver : Another is Randy’s Genesalogy Links – https://www.geneamusings.com/p/randys-genealogy-links.html
11:27:22 From Marcia Philbrick : Map of U.S. – shows changing county boundary lines over time (United States resource) – very helpful for research in area prior to statehood – https://www.mapofus.org/
11:27:32 From Doris Haskell : I just stepped away because I got a FaceTime call from my baby boy, who is serving in the Middle East.
11:27:35 From Graham Walter : also the go-to-website Cyndi’s List https://www.Cyndislist.com
11:30:44 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Can you put the New York Historical Society link for Will Abstracts in the chat.
- 11:33:01: From Randy Seaver : Brenda – http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/n/nys//browse/author/n.html and scroll down to “New York Surrogates Court”
11:31:30 From Valerie Lisk : For Michigan Death Certificates etc. http://seekingmichigan.org/discover/death-records-1897-1920 For Missouri Death Certificates https://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/archives/archivesmvc/deathcertificates/ To connect Missouri families using court cases https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do
11:33:12 From Maria Tegtmeier : Favorite Polish websites http://poznan-project.psnc.pl/ and http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/ and BASIA _ Database of ARchival Indexing System basia.famula.pl
11:33:35 From Doris Haskell : In PA, Richard has ancestors from Montgomery County.
11:34:07 From Randy Seaver : Brenda – and scroll further to NY Historical society links
11:35:42 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Blog http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/blog/
11:36:38 From Tony Proctor : When Google+ goes, so will many of the Blogger comments (if you have a blogspot)
11:37:34 From Randy Seaver : Can we get on the panel that day at FHL?
11:40:34 From Randy Seaver : I never had many commenters from Google+ to my blog posts.
11:41:01 From Randy Seaver : extraordinary webinars…
11:44:18 From Cousin Russ : Download your Google+ data https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1045788?hl=en
11:44:28 From Hilary Gadsby : If we posted using our Google account that should still be active.
11:44:42 From Marcia Philbrick : https://blogger.googleblog.com/2019/01/an-update-on-google-and-blogger.html – says comments will no longer appear on blog
11:45:11 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : yay!
11:46:39 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : that will be fun
11:47:35 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZlX5znu6d7CCz6xobwMXOA
11:48:11 From Graham Walter : Farewell everyone!
11:48:14 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : thanks
11:49:05 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : How is your kitty cat doing?
11:49:42 From cyndy Bray : might be me not you
11:50:51 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:51:01 From Cousin Russ : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:55:28 From Mary Buchholz to All panelists : I definitely think there is interest in Tony’s software and it is something a person needs to heard more than once.
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