ARCHIVED: The Archive Lady – Outlaws in your family history

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Melissa LeMaster Barker deals with objective research in this session about ancestors who were on the wrong side of the law. She also wrote “The Archive Lady: Researching My Outlaw Ancestors” published at Abundant Genealogy. She is a Certified Archives Manager currently working as the Houston County, Tennessee Archivist. She is also a Professional Genealogist and lectures, teaches and writes about researching in archives and records preservation. You’ll find her work here and on the web at:

Melissa recommends the following resources for archival materials:




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19:01:08 From Melissa LeMaster Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:01:11 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
19:01:24 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi!
19:01:42 From Maurene Fehling : Hello
19:02:02 From Gary Gauthier : Hello from Calgary!!!
19:02:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hi everyone. Happy to hear Melissa tonight
19:02:35 From Linda Braddock to All panelists : Hey, Melissa! Gail from TNGS! [NOTE: Tennessee Genealogical Society.]
19:02:56 From Melissa LeMaster Barker : Hello Gail!
19:08:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : I found out by accident that not only was my Great- grandfather was in prison, but also that he lost his leg in the Civil War.
19:09:29 From Gary Gauthier : Was just working on a story like that.
19:11:54 From Sarah Bell : Or if not the outlaw themselves, they may have appeared as a witness in a criminal case!
19:12:08 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : Have a hard time locating bootlegger family in Birmingham, AL. Not NARA Atlanta (Eliot Nest was Treasury?), AL Archive, not in Birmingham Library Archive.
19:12:48 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : Bootleggers were local, state, federal?
19:13:56 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : City jail?
19:15:14 From Sarah Bell : Are there often indexes for these court records? Or would you have to trawl through lots of documents, looking for names and dates?
19:15:35 From Betty-Lu Burton : I wonder if my grandfather Baker might be in some court records. I was told that since he was a retired locksmith that several times the police would ask for his alibi after certain crimes were committed
19:16:11 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : He had drive up delivery at home. Arrested, but sheriff or head police was also Mason, so he never stayed in jail long. Great story, but no paper. Thanks, I have a research path.
19:17:18 From Sarah Bell : Newspapers may publish court sittings too
19:19:43 From Gary Gauthier : Are the civil and criminal case records separate in all situations, or are they together in smaller communities?
19:21:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : I have that problem with one of my ancestors. He was apparently a real estate agent and there are tons of land deeds with his name on them. The time period 1800-1810
19:22:05 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : Great for union and civil rights arrests.
19:26:51 From Joyce Westphal to All panelists : In our county, the moonshiners were often quickly released as the sheriff himself was one of their best customers and was often paid a bribe in moonshine.
19:27:09 From Cassandra Davis to All panelists : How do contact police for past records vs I need help now? Not eager to annoy my police department, or FBI. Thanks.
19:28:02 From Cousin Russ : Former Alcatraz Inmates List
19:28:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : How I had found out my great grandfather had been in prison was the 1890 veteran’s schedule
19:28:49 From Sarah Bell : There are gaol books for NSW here in Australia, some even have pictures of the inmates!
19:28:56 From Cousin Russ : Federal Bureau of Prisons
19:29:58 From Cousin Russ :
19:30:00 From Betty-Lu Burton : What kind of problems would someone have with privacy laws when looking for prison records?
19:31:04 From Gary Gauthier : Try this for Ontario, Canada
19:31:30 From Sarah Bell : Police gazettes are good too, they have physical descriptions of people etc
19:31:37 From Cousin Russ : Idaho Inmates – Miners
19:32:44 From Sarah Bell : @Betty-Lu, I know inmate records are confidential for many years here in Aus
19:34:07 From Sarah Bell : It’s always interesting seeing convict records – people were transported to Australia for things as simple as stealing a loaf of bread or a handkerchief!
19:35:40 From Deb Andrew : Not all people who are listed with a prison or jail address, they maybe an employee.
19:39:52 From Yvonne Demoskoff : that fellow went to jail for stealing a barber’s razors
19:41:02 From Cousin Russ : Sacramento California Police Mug Books
19:43:00 From Beverly Anderson to All panelists : My 3rd GGrandfather was imprisoned in Sweden and than sent to the US. He stole a horse in Minnesota and returned to Sweden. HIs Swedish prison records are at: Two of his arrest/prison records have pictures.
19:46:21 From Gary Gauthier : In Canada, we have the strangest of record set held in the National Archives of Canada: PERSONS SENTENCED TO DEATH IN CANADA, 1867-1976: An Inventory of Case Files in the Fonds of the Department of Justice
19:48:01 From Yvonne Demoskoff : The husband of one of my grandmother’s cousins is in that set of records, Gary
19:48:29 From Gary Gauthier : Oh, so you are aware of it, Yvonne
19:49:00 From Yvonne Demoskoff : I discovered it about 6 years ago, Gary
19:50:26 From Yvonne Demoskoff : the fellow killed five family members and was hanged for it in 1935 in the prov. of QC
19:50:33 From Gary Gauthier : Here is another good starting point in Canada (for the record):
19:51:09 From Yvonne Demoskoff : I’ll take a look at that
19:53:25 From Mark Barrus : Could possibly be foul play.
19:55:52 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Never say never.
20:02:42 From Yvonne Demoskoff : His name is Michael Bradley
20:04:48 From Maurene Fehling : Thank you very much!!
20:04:56 From Mark Barrus : thanks again
20:05:33 From Deb Andrew : Mine is suppose to come tomorrow.
20:05:55 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Mine won’t be here for 1-3 months 🙁
20:07:15 From Deb Andrew : Yes.
20:07:31 From Mary Rieman : Yes
20:07:51 From Debbie Moore : Oh that would be lovely!
20:08:09 From Joyce Westphal to All panelists : Yes, would pay for a lecture series
20:08:11 From Yvonne Demoskoff : A small fee seems worth it
20:08:17 From Sarah Bell : Yes, if it’s at a good time for Aussies 😉
20:08:36 From Sarah Bell : 12.30 PM – thursday
20:09:42 From Gary Gauthier : I’m so busy now that I couldn’t at present, but maybe sometime later
20:10:10 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Goodnight!
20:10:14 From Gary Gauthier : bye

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REGISTER: DearMYRTLE’s April 2019 Webinars

“Is it time to write your MEMOIR?” ; a fresh look at Vivid-Pix Restore; American Court Records; Property Rights of Women; and a visit with The Archive Lady are on the docket for DearMYRTLE’s April 2019 webinars. If you are new, you’ll need to register for each recurring webinar series. If you’ve been with us a while, you’ll receive reminder emails with your personal link to participate. Whenever possible, Myrt provides access via this blog to the archived webinars and links we mention.


DearMYRTLE webinars are known for interactive conversation, something we don’t have time for at regular genealogy society meetings. DearMYRTLE, Cousin Russ and several panelists appear via webcams/microphones, while attendees do not. DearMYRTLE webinar attendees are given several options for communicating during the live DearMYRTLE’s webinars – namely typed chat, and the possibility of raising your hand to indicate you’d like Cousin Russ to open your mic or mic/webcam. If you haven’t tested your equipment before, we recommend joining an after-party once a webinar recording has stopped, so you can get the hang of things for future webinars.

Cousin Russ spotlights attendee comments from time to time and DearMYRTLE tries her best to visit websites mentioned by panelists and attendees alike. Thank heavens Mr. Myrt hooked up a third monitor in Myrt’s office.

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Cousin Russ and Ol’ Myrt are excited to get together to talk about our favorite topic – family history. We’ve noticed that one or two folks try using our chat platform as a method for distributing info on their own agenda, sometimes totally off topic for the webinar at hand. We ask everyone to refrain from self-promotion and consider using their own blogs and webinar accounts for such activities. Individuals who do not honor this request will be removed from the immediately from the webinar and from DearMYRTLE’s Facebook group as a matter of policy. We wish to foster a collaborative and safe online learning experience for our attendees. Thank-you.

DearMYRTLE's Mondays with Myrt

1, 8, 15, 22 and 29 April 2019 Mondays with Myrt (MwM) is our flagship webinar, where we talk about anything and everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the last week. Powerful genealogy breakthroughs happen during our webinars. The live broadcast starts at Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles). The registration link for this recurring webinar is

Many followers will be attending NERGC – the New England Regional Genealogical Conference, 3-6 April 2019 in Manchester, New Hampshire. Be sure to stop by and see Cousin Russ who will be at the Family Tree Maker booth in the exhibit hall. We want to see selfies!

Is it time to write your MEMOIR

3 April 2019, Wednesday, 9pm Eastern – “Is it time to write your MEMOIR?” A timely discussion with internationally recognized author, military records expert Jennifer Holik, who founded the WWII Research & Writing Center. If you are new, the registration link is here:

Expect to receive a confirmation email with your personal URL for participating in this webinar. The room will fill up quickly, so arrive early.


10 April 2019, WACKY Wednesday, 9pm Eastern – Ever the brave one, DearMYRTLE will open for the first time Vivid-Pix RESTORE, a surprisingly capable photo editing program that Cousin Russ has been experimenting with for hours. Let’s find out how intuitive the program is and some tricks Cousin Russ discovered. (This one is hard not to try the program yet. Myrt soooo wants to click and explore the program! But it will be more fun to see how she does looking at it for the first time – with a little help from attendees and Cousin Russ.)

AmericaGen Study Group

The AmericaGen Study Group meets twice this month, on Wednesday mornings at Noon Eastern as follows. Our syllabus material is The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.). Panelists are advised to use examples from personal research to illustrate the author’s points.

  • April 10, 2019 Chapter 22 Court Records and Family History
  • April 24, 2019 Chapter 23 Property Rights of Women as a Consideration

The registration link for this recurring webinar series is:

Archives Lady with WW
The Archive Lady joins WACKY Wednesday on 24 April 2019 at 9pm Eastern to share her tips for home archivists. Melissa LeMaster Barker is a Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives. A popular genealogical speaker, author and blogger, Melissa is also the FGS Forum Reviews Editor. We’ve already received many registrations for this recurring webinar. Be sure to arrive early to be assured of a seat.



  • Times posted are Mountain Time (Denver), daylight when applicable.
  • If you have previously registered for Mondays with Myrt, WACKY Wednesday, the AmericaGen Study Group, or The Archive Lady, you should be receiving reminder emails with your personal link to participate. This is because these are recurring DearMYRTLE webinars using Zoom Webinar options.
  • If you are a new attendee, you’ll find the links to register in the “where” portion of the calendar entries below as well as hyperlinked above.
  • If you need a time zone converter, here’s one DearMYRTLE recommends:

Typically DearMYRTLE webinars are presented at no cost to attendees. If you find the information useful, consider the Pay What You Want business model Ol’ Myrt employs:

HERE’s the exact schedule for April 2019.


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ARCHIVED: AmericanGen Study Group – Chapter 21: Abstracting Probate & Land Records

AmericaGen Study Group

NOTE: Panelist Lisa Gorrell, CG has wisely suggested we include the link to this upcoming related webinar.

The next Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) free webinar in conjunction with Legacy Family Tree! LaBrenda Garrett-Nelson, JD, CG®, CGL℠, will present “Transcribing Documents: There is More than Meets the Eye!” at 8 p.m. Eastern time, 16 April 2019. To accommodate those who might have schedule conflicts, the webinar can be accessed at no charge for a week after the broadcast. BCG receives a commission if you register using our affiliate link here:

The AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 21 “Abstracting Probate and Land Records” in Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.)

Please note all hyperlinks are non-affiliate links.

Val Greenwoods book

Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits.

DearMYRTLE’s AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 21 Combined Homework



09:44:01 From Marceline Beem to All panelists :
09:44:10 From Marceline Beem to All panelists : that’s the link to the second page of the deed

10:24:32 From Cousin Russ : TRANSCRIPT by Jacob Boerema 

10:36:47 From Cousin Russ : DeedMapper to plat this deed:
10:57:11 From Cousin Russ : Transcription forms: [Land Record Abstract]
10:59:09 From Molly McKinley : I have lots of copies of probate records, some with 40 or so pages! I can see I have lots of work ahead…lol
11:00:53 From Molly McKinley : I like the chart. It would help you focus on your direct line.
11:02:44 From Molly McKinley : Great idea Russ
11:06:19 From Molly McKinley : I like to check out those meets and bounds neighbors just in case they are kin.
11:07:49 From Robbin Smith : Thank you all
11:08:37 From Robbin Smith : Florida is sea level.
11:08:58 From Molly McKinley : It is too hot here in the summer
11:09:57 From Robbin Smith : LOL [NOTE from DearMYRTLE: I simply LOVED living in Florida – Bradenton to be exact. On the Gulf Coast. Mr. Myrt doesn’t like the heat and humidity though.]
11:10:12 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : Thank you all. GREAT application.

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Exploring FindMyPast: American Red Cross Visitor Book 1943-1945 & Ray Wilton

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Alex Cox explains “US SERVICEMEN IN NORTH DEVON, ENGLAND, 1943-1945” contains entries for men who visited the local Red Cross Service Club during WWII. Myrt noticed the register has divider tabs for each state. Men signed in with the date, their name and hometown. Some added their APO (Army Post Office) number, their serial number and a few included their complete home street address. Some of these signatures may be the last record for the servicemen before losing his life in “Operation Tiger” a 2-day amphibious assault training exercise or in the D-Day assault on beaches in France. Here in the US, the soldier’s Army service file may have been destroyed in the fire in the Personnel Records Center in St. Louis and that makes this service club record entry all the more important.

Alex writes “Explore lists of over 5,000 US servicemen who were stationed in North Devon during WW2. The records consist of original visitor books kept by the local servicemen’s club. The servicemen served at the Assault Training Centre in North Devon, which was set up in 1942. It was established during the Second World War as a centre to develop and practice amphibious assault exercises to prepare for the Normandy landing on D-Day. They practiced on the beaches at Woolacombe and Saunton Sands.”

OPERATION TIGER – day 1 friendly fire, day 2 the E-boats attacked, so this practice resulted in a horrible disaster.

HEROES RETURN: RAY WILTON’S STORY (PART 1) Ray Wilton’s Story – Alex Cox’s maternal grandfather’s recollections about D-Day.

HEROES RETURN: RAY WILTON’S STORY (PART 2) Alex Cox and his mother accompany her father on his visit to France. He thinks of the men who gave their lives during the Normandy invasion.


ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt 25 Mar 2019


Looks like genealogists with UK ancestry have a new tool at The Genealogist, as demoed by Graham Walters. Myrt shares how to order the Advanced Genetic Genealogy: Techniques and Case Studies at the regular price, not the Amazon inflated price. Pat has a DNA breakthrough, while Myrt was put off by an uninformative demand to share her tree with a DNA match. Hilary shares the digital image of an amazing locket that a relative brought to the funeral this past weekend. Ol’ Myrt emulated one of three problems with digital image fulfillment at FamilySearch on her Windows 10 computer. The three main problems discussed and demonstrated are located at the timestamp 11:06 to 11:09.

  • Images do not load properly (with an entire portion of the document blocked out.)
  • Images do not load properly (where half the image is sharp, the other half does not rez in but remains fuzzy for up to 2 minutes.
  • When you click to go to the “NEXT” image, the image doesn’t appear, and the image

We discuss Family Tree Magazine’s parent company filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. In the after party, the subject of a Spanish-language based software program came up – so I’ve included a few suggestions with links below.



09:51:12 From John Laws : Hi from a cool but Sunny North Berwick Scotland
09:51:12 From Dave Robison to All panelists : I’m posting this to see if anyone is familiar with this and not necessarily to make it a topic of discussion:
10:00:25 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Hello everyone from London
10:01:00 From Robbin Smith : hello from miami
10:01:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good Monday
10:01:08 From Gary Gauthier : Hello from Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
10:01:37 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Morning from California.
10:01:49 From Bill West : Good morning from sunny Massachusetts
10:02:24 From susan bleimehl : Hello from sunny Wisconsin
10:03:09 From Valerie Lisk : Good morning from St. Louis.
10:03:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : My problem with some of these things is most of them give a percentage or possibility of you having these things
10:03:38 From Janet Iles : Hello from Ontario, Canada — sunny and cool
10:03:40 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Good morning from British Columbia!
10:04:59 From Janet Iles : Wacky Wednesday You are the client — was excellent.

YOU are the client

10:05:13 From Cousin Russ : WACKY Wednesday – YOU are the client
10:05:19 From Randy Seaver : I think it’s a good idea to raise the issue with each of the “new” DNA sites on the Facebook Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques group.

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10:05:56 From Cousin Russ : Exploring FindMyPast – US Passports Post 1914 – In this meet up with London-based Alex Cox, we explore a sample from the US Passport Collection.


Advanced Genetic Genealogy

10:09:08 From Cousin Russ : Debbie Parker Wayne editor writes: “Includes authors Jim Bartlett, Blaine T. Bettinger, Kathy Johnston, Jim Owston, Melissa Johnson, Kimberly Powell, Debbie Parker Wayne, Ann Turner, Karen Stanbary, Patti Hobbs, Thomas Jones, Judy G. Russell, Michael Lacopo, and Debbie Cruwys Kennett.” Debbie Parker Wayne CG CGL, Editor. “Advanced Genetic Genealogy” hard copy at Amazon now. Kindle perhaps by mid-May. Non-affiliate link.
10:10:57 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Debbie’s book is $67 CDN at
10:12:13 From DearMYRTLE . : Thank-you, Yvonne.
10:12:23 From Graham Walter : Debbie’s Book £39.95 GBP at
10:12:48 From DearMYRTLE . : thank-you, Graham.
10:12:55 From Dave Robison to All panelists : I ordered Advanced Genetic Genealogy this morning. To my surprise, delivery is expected between May 1 and June 10…

Advanced better price

DearMYRTLE’s TIP: Be sure to click where it says “6 new” and pay $45+ as opposed to the $62+ amazon features above. (sigh)

10:16:52 From Deb Andrew : I tell them this is a research tree and is not open to the public. I do tell them if the name or names are in the base. I sometimes suggest a line might want to look at. This is at my Heritage.
10:20:02 From Danine Cozzens : That
10:20:32 From Robbin Smith : On the trees are searchable and that proved very helpful to me
10:20:35 From Danine Cozzens : That’s a great idea about the DNA tree.
10:22:12 From Michelle Minner : Yes, I live in a test market for Amazon Prime SAME DAY delivery! but no such luck with ordering the book! LOL
10:23:08 From John Laws : I tell them that my database is offline for maintenance if they care to mail me I’d be happy to help
10:23:32 From Betty-Lu Burton : You could always suggest the DNA match look at FamilySearch for more information
10:24:34 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I do sometime send them over to Ancestry where my tree is public. But a lot of the people have very very low matches.
10:25:00 From Cousin Russ :
10:25:52 From Hilary Gadsby : WikiTree shows the kit numbers or Gedmatch number on the page of likely matches if it has been added.
10:25:58 From Valerie Lisk : When I confirm a DNA match, I add them and the portion of their tree that they’ve shared to my DNA Tree. I use that as cousin bait.
10:29:01 From Yvonne Demoskoff : That’s a good tip, Valerie
10:30:55 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Yvonne.
10:33:58 From Michelle Minner : WOW on that map search! WOW WOW
10:34:25 From Cousin Russ : Introducing The Map Explorer

10:38:06 From Michelle Minner : I collect addresses from census reports, and take google earth street view pictures to save …and this is GREAT! combining the historic maps WITH the documents!
10:40:21 From Robbin Smith : I also use zillow to find out how long ago the house was built
10:40:30 From Pamela Wells : Very exciting! Yay!
10:41:16 From DearMYRTLE . :
10:41:28 From Graham Walter : Some other URLS for TheGenealogist:
10:41:45 From Graham Walter :

10:45:33 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : I’m so sorry for your lose, Hilary
10:46:58 From Cousin Russ : Kathleen — you have your hand raised, to you have a question ?
10:50:24 From Doris Haskell : I am very grateful for Facebook! I am able to share prom pictures of granddaughters. And today, I can share that our son is on the way home from the Middle East!
10:50:55 From DearMYRTLE . : Library and Archives Canada
10:50:57 From Valerie Lisk : My cousins won’t answer questions, but I can get vital information on the ancestors and photos off fb.
10:51:20 From DearMYRTLE . : Katherine Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook List
10:51:45 From Michelle Minner : I found LOADS of German Ancestry facebook groups, and some have made some cousin connections for me!
10:52:51 From Bill West : I find new cousins nearly everyday in the regional New England or family groups I belong to on Facebook
10:53:32 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I have made many connections with cousins on Facebook. The local groups show pictures of where my ancestors lived. Before FB it was message boards. The best part of FB is getting pictures of our grandson.
10:53:45 From Michelle Minner : I also set up a couple of groups for my close cousins in Facebook, so we can share pictures, documents, and discuss questions we all have!
10:56:41 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Dave: is it possible to join a secret group when you cannot ‘find’ that group?
10:58:32 From Michelle Minner : I founded and am admin of a secret group, because we didn’t want ANYONE but members to see our postings or add anyone that has not approved.
11:00:45 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : I’m also a member of a secret group for the same reason. We are sharing pictures that we don’t want others sharing or stealing
11:01:48 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : yes
11:01:57 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : very slow
11:02:42 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : or returns nothing at all
11:02:56 From Molly McKinley : I was bounced while trying to download my 3rd great grandfather’s 50 page probate file. They said I was downloading too many files.
11:03:41 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Jane Ufford Bartlett…Multi-tasking!
11:04:12 From Linda Stufflebean to All panelists : I ordered the new DNA book from Amazon and got the message others received about delivery between May 1 and June 11. I just now got an update and it says delivery will be by this Thursday, March 28. 🙂

11:04:32 From Valerie Lisk : My images started to blur, The numbering also seemed to be out of sequence.
11:05:27 From Linda Stufflebean to All panelists : The issue with FamilySearch images even happens in the FHL. I just refresh and it will work again for a while.
11:05:55 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : yes, that was happening to me also
11:05:59 From Kathleen Daetsch : I have had that happen.
11:06:24 From Yvonne Demoskoff : That sounds like my problem when I view images or try the multiple set of little images (they don’t appear)
11:06:39 From Linda Stufflebean to All panelists : I use Firefox.
11:06:43 From Valerie Lisk : Chrome
11:07:03 From Kathleen Daetsch : I am on Chrome
11:07:08 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Chrome too
11:07:42 From susan bleimehl : Using Chrome, but I always thought it was my DLS internet connection being slower than usual.
11:07:53 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : Chrome windows 10, and my computer is a graphics intensive machine
11:08:04 From Linda Stufflebean to All panelists : I think higher traffic times, like on the weekends, makes it happen more often. I try not to use the site as much on Saturday and Sunday.
11:08:11 From Rachel Evans to All panelists : It has happened with both browsers for me. At home and a FHC.
11:08:11 From Valerie Lisk : Susan, that’s what I thought.
11:08:43 From Betty-Lu Burton : It sounds like something I have experienced on FamilySearch Indexing and I just need to go back to the main indexing page and then open the batch again
11:09:05 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : It happens to me, rarely, on Firefox on a Mac. I think that (1) the number of my own windows that are open, (2) the load on the network, and (3) the load on the host machine can do it.
11:10:04 From Yvonne Demoskoff : This problem happened when viewing the 1926 Prairie Provinces census (Canada); thought it might be because so many viewers were trying to access this new dataset
11:10:41 From Randy Seaver : add the load on your own machine – my Win7 computer is 8 years old and operates all the time at 70 to 95% CPU. Refreshing helps.
11:11:31 From Valerie Lisk : I was Saturday evening, Chrome, Windows 7.
11:12:41 From Rachel Evans : While refreshing I had a problem of images “jumping.” I would click the thumbnail that was highlighted and it would open a different image.
11:12:50 From Nicole Smith to All panelists : Randy, I’m having the problem and machine has 16 meg Ram plus a heavy duty graphics card. Refreshing the page doesn’t always work.

11:15:53 From Michelle Minner : We have a family tradition going back to the 50s of our family going to Disney! I have pics of great-grandparents, grandparents, parents, children, and great-grandchildren…all at disney! my own immediate family tree!
11:17:03 From Kathleen Daetsch : Anybody having weird results in My Heritage Theories
11:17:05 From Cousin Russ . : FOREVER BOX This box includes $50 worth of media conversion services, which can be used for any media!

11:18:02 From Cousin Russ : Legacy Box, currently 40% Off,

11:24:05 From Randy Seaver : We’re Related tells me that Dave Robison is my 7th cousin 1x removed. Common ancestor is John Perice (1673-1744). My line is correct!
11:24:26 From Danine Cozzens : We’re Related was fun but it deleted all my data twice.
11:24:38 From Randy Seaver : I looked up my connection to James Thurber on FS Family Tree – we are 5th cousins 2x removed.
11:24:57 From Randy Seaver : A recent We’re Related connection is author Stephen King.
11:25:57 From Randy Seaver : The problem with We’re Related is it uses the Ancestry BIG Tree (like ThruLines does), so there are some wrong links due to end-of-line issues.
11:25:58 From Michelle Minner : ahhh….Thank you Cousin Russ…a new idea for the new Ancestry Tags….END OF LINE
11:27:03 From Hilary Gadsby : It says that Pat and I are related
11:28:00 From Rachel Evans : I came up with Tim Burton in mine a while ago. My daughter is a huge fan so I looked into it. With records I proved another generation back.
11:28:36 From Molly McKinley : It doesn’t show up in the Play Station files to download. I had to uninstall it and cannot reinstall.
11:28:39 From Kathleen Daetsch : I had that problem they are using other trees that have an unproven line from my second great grandmother
11:29:17 From Pamela Wells : I show Pat Richley-Erickson as my 9th cousin
11:30:54 From Doris Haskell : Dave and I may be 8th cousins 1x removed
11:31:20 From Randy Seaver : I think the BIG Tree uses your own ancestors back 4-5 generations, then uses the selected ancestors in the BIG Tree after that.
11:32:20 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : Back in the 1970s, fellows who worked with me came to work early, sat in the parking lot, and talked to each other on their CBs. Isn’t that what’s going on here?
11:32:31 From Yvonne Demoskoff : That’s what I noticed, Randy, my generations are correct, but then the earlier generations (from someone else’s tree) is usually based on faulty info
11:32:44 From Doris Haskell : Yay! Blaine Bettinger and I may be 7th cousins 1x removed. Looks like I’m in good company.
11:33:13 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : It’s sure fascinating for the rest of us.
11:33:20 From Danine Cozzens : The We’re Related app now tells me “Notables” wants to use “” to sign in. Has the Ancestry site been co-opted or what is this relationship?
11:33:51 From Randy Seaver : I spend almost ALL my time on my family tree – finding descendants of 4th great-grandparents and finding Seaver, Carringer, Auble, Vaux, persons.
11:34:49 From Randy Seaver : But then I’m 75 and know my bio clock is ticking louder.
11:34:50 From Pamela Wells : Blaine Bettinger is on my list as 9th cousin
11:35:39 From Pamela Wells : Bettinger is through the Sargent surname on my tree
11:35:51 From Kathleen Daetsch : Has anyone had any weird results from My Heritage Theories.
11:36:11 From Randy Seaver : Yes, Kathleen – 6 of my 15 Theories are dead wrong
11:36:15 From Pamela Wells : Pat, Sophia King 1707-1774
11:36:32 From JoAnn Lawrencw to All panelists : I received an email about Family Tree Magazine filed Chapter 11 Bankruptcy. Any more information? What will happen to items you (I) may have purchased? How will this impact other genealogy websites?
11:36:43 From Pamela Wells : Through the Emory and Beck line
11:36:44 From Rebecca Williams : My favorite cousin was the son of Elizabeth I.
11:37:00 From Michelle Minner : We’re related says that Pat is related to me via common ancestor – Anne Coursey! LOL…pretty far back! LOL
11:37:28 From Doris Haskell : Laura Prescott! 8th cousin 1x Removed
11:38:03 From Valerie Lisk : Ah! Myrt my husband’s cousin has Corneiius Howard and Anne Dorsey on her tree. And Rev F N Worthington.
11:38:29 From Doris Haskell : Cousin Russ – 8th cousin

F+W Media bankruptcy
11:38:36 From Cousin Russ :Genealogy author and educator Thomas MacEntee shares his insights on the recent bankruptcy of F+W Media, the parent company of Family Tree Magazine with link to this site for details:
11:39:05 From Pamela Wells : Thank you all for all you do for us! You’e the best! Cheers!
11:40:09 From Graham Walter : Have a great day everyone
11:40:21 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you and have a wonderful day.

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11:40:38 From Gary Gauthier : Does anyone know of a good genealogy program that supports the Spanish language and Latin American research? I have a friend who would like to start his Chilean family history, but he prefers to work in Spanish.

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: I asked two Spanish-language genealogy presenters this question and these are their responses, received just in time for publication:

As Cousin Russ noted, MyHeritage is available in multiple languages as shown below.MyHeritage_Multiple languages

11:41:38 From Deb Andrew : Hey Gary, glad you joined Research Like A Pro.
11:42:27 From Valerie Lisk : Russ do you have Rev F N Worthington on your tree?
11:42:58 From Monique Riley to All panelists : I think Legacy comes in many languages
11:43:31 From Cousin Russ : Maybe but when and where ?
11:43:46 From Rachel Evans : Legacy does allow for multiple languages. He could try the free program to see how it goes.
11:43:49 From DearMYRTLE . : Cyndi’s List – Software & Computers – Genealogy Software Programs
11:43:50 From DearMYRTLE . : Ahnenblatt i
11:44:03 From DearMYRTLE . : DoroTree
11:44:16 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : The VGA has a Mexican study group that covered a little more than Mexican research.
11:44:35 From Monique Riley to All panelists : Legacy does give hints for MyHeritage also.
11:45:37 From Monique Riley to All panelists : Good idea, Rachel! He could at least try the free version.
11:46:47 From Valerie Lisk : Sorry, 1616-1678 England married yo Sarah Byrom 1625-1664.
11:46:54 From Pat Kuhn : gotta go will see you all later
11:47:46 From Robbin Smith : family tree builder seems to offer spanish
11:50:11 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Heredis does several different languages.
11:51:42 From Rachel Evans : katherine wilsons lists would probably help
11:52:00 From Pamela Wells : Maybe you could call directly on their 800 # that is available in help with their software. Sorry I don’t have the # available. I know they have most all countries in their database records.
11:52:28 From Deb Andrew : The VIGA Study group is small and they speak and read Spanish fluently.
11:52:33 From DearMYRTLE . : FamilySearch Wiki – Chile
11:52:48 From Monique Riley : I just looked up, Legacy comes in 18 languages.

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