Why not give *ourselves* the BEST of our current thinking by creating professional research reports for our files? This is a continuation of Monday’s after party discussion about Gary Gauthier’s request for info about client report forms. We will dissect several public online genealogy report forms to come up with elements to emulate in our own work.
Here are some of the points we uncovered:
Every report had either an official cover, or was produced on letterhead.
To organize data into readable formats, the report writers included
Transcript or abstract
To clarify content for the audience, the report writers included
We also discussed citation footnotes that may include discursive notes, and considered where a discursive note may be integral to a proof argument, it should be moved from the footnote into the body of the report.
19:00:32 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:00:49 From Marceline Beem : Hi everyone
19:01:37 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi from BC!
19:01:57 From Sarah Bell : Morning from Australia 🙂
19:01:58 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Hello from Calgary.
19:02:05 From Doris Haskell : Hello, everyone, from Rock Springs where the temperature is 42 degrees for the first time this year.
19:02:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : Never thought about treating ourselves like a client
19:02:25 From ERIC COOK to All panelists : Hello from Iowa!
19:02:50 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
19:04:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : Would the task include where you want to look for the answer?
19:05:17 From Melissa Barker : Love Timelines!
19:06:46 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Gary — please mute your audio — thank you
19:09:42 From Cousin Russ : Derived from “Samuel Witter, 17th U.S. Infantry, War of 1812, Enlistment Record: An Analysis.” Report to Witter Research Group. 15 December 2011. Archived online. Elizabeth Shown Mills. Historic Pathways. https://www.historicpathways.com : 20 Mar 2019.https://www.historicpathways.com/download/SamWittRecAnalysis.pdf
19:12:56 From Betty-Lu Burton : So we have already proven the Samuel Witter is the same in all the areas
19:15:57 From Sarah Bell : That ESM is very thorough!
19:21:52 From Sarah Bell : Yep, I think a report like this is only useful in the third category (long proof argument) – most of the time I can write a quick one or two sentence proof statement
19:27:59 From Sarah Bell : Me too
19:29:31 From Deb Andrew : I transcribed a death certificate last night, wasn’t for sure who the undertaker was, and Google undertakers in Reno 1919, and the Funeral Home came up in an ad in a newspaper in Reno for 1919.
19:30:33 From Betty-Lu Burton : That would bring into question is whether the age is based on date of enlistment or discharge or another event
19:31:48 From Sarah Bell : I think giving historical context is important too – you shouldn’t assume that your audience knows the particular conflict in detail
19:34:22 From Sarah Bell : A map or geographic info might enrich this report!
19:35:04 From Sue Taylor : Good point, Sarah. I recently found a Württemberg soldier reported to have died in a Polish hospital in 1809. On the surface there didn’t seem to be a geographical connection but Google found me the likely conflict with a list of “Belligerents” that included Württemberg and Poland on the side of France.
19:39:02 From Mark Barrus : Fascinating research
19:39:56 From Sarah Bell : Is seemingly incompatible a precursor to negative evidence? or the same thing?
19:43:26 From Sarah Bell : Important to record your thought processes – whether through footnotes or another method
19:44:12 From Betty-Lu Burton : I would at least do limited source citation. such as as stated in 1850 census.
19:50:58 From Betty-Lu Burton : Melissa it does not take a few years for my thinking to change. because health issues my mind changes every few weeks now
19:52:55 From Betty-Lu Burton : footnote 12 is more of an analysis
19:53:33 From Sarah Bell : She also references her research notes on the subject
19:53:38 From Sarah Bell : foot 11 19:56:35 From Cousin Russ : Derived from “House history of 5726 North East Cleveland Avenue, Portland, Oregon”, report to [client name withheld]. 4 March 2007. Archived online. Connie Miller Lenzen, CG.Board for Certification of Genealogists. (https://bcgcertification.org : viewed 20 Mar 2019.) https://bcgcertification.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Lenzen-House-History2006.pdf
20:06:45 From Deb Andrew : Floods, burned court houses local areas.
20:08:38 From Cousin Russ : Derived from “Pierre Lapouraille (m. 1819)” report to Brian Lapouraille of Baltimore, MD. 2 Oct 2012. Archived online. Malissa Ruffner, JD, MLS. Board for Certification of Genealogists. (https://bcgcertification.org : viewed 20 Mar 2019). https://bcgcertification.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Ruffner_Report2012.pdf
20:13:24 From Sarah Bell : Love that idea
20:21:03 From Deb Andrew : What is the name of the author of Designing Research Methods?
20:22:11 From Sue Taylor : Helen Leary
20:23:07 From Sarah Bell : https://www.worldcat.org/title/north-carolina-research-genealogy-and-local-history/oclc/34803478 20:23:17 From Cousin Russ : Albright, Lee and Helen F. M. Leary, “Designing Research Strategies,” in Helen F. M. Leary, editor, North Carolina Research: Genealogy and Local History (Raleigh, NC: North Carolina Genealogical Society, 1996), chap. 2, p. 20.https://www.ncgenealogy.org/product/north-carolina-research-genealogy-local-history-2e/
20:23:29 From Deb Andrew : Thanks.
20:25:04 From Cousin Russ : You may obtain Leary’s book ssed from Abe Books – https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30258852136&cm_ven=sws&cm_cat=sws&cm_pla=sws&cm_ite=30258852136&clickid=01DzVtwvLxyJWVl0EHQlB1XYUklxo2XVzWbMwk0&cm_mmc=aff-_-ir-_-353196-_-77798&ref=imprad353196&afn_sr=impact
In this episode, we meet Alex Cox from FindMyPast.com as we spotlight a 1915 passport application for James Augustine Shearman who is planning to travel with his wife and supervise the art education of his granddaughter. I think you’ll agree with Ol’ Myrt here – it’s fun to have a guy in London explain this record set from the US National Archives!
In which we discuss what’s new at FindMyPast.com , demo how to “watch” an ancestor on FamilySearch.org, and tackle the errors we may make inadvertently during data entry in our genealogy management programs. We also discuss what to expect on an SS-5 Social Security application. See also: “Ordering the SS-5:2018 Style” posted 14 Dec 2018 at The Legal Genealogist Blog by Judy Russell, CG, (https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/12/14/ordering-the-ss-5-2018-style: Viewed 18 Mar 2019.)
10:00:07 From Graham Walter : Hello from London
10:00:34 From Gary Gauthier : Hello Everyone
10:00:43 From Michelle Minner : Hello from Arizona
10:18:31 From Hilary Gadsby : I didn’t notice it was not working
10:19:06 From Doris Haskell : The timing was good. I didn’t even notice the outage either.
10:20:09 From Doris Haskell : Yes. I remember filling out my application when I was 16 so I could start working at Howard Johnson’s Restaurant.
10:21:06 From Gary Gauthier : I found my dad’s old SSN card. Being Canadian, I had no idea he had one! Would be nice to find out more.
10:21:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Yes it happens at the hospital now. I think the hospital actually fills it out like the birth certificate
10:21:53 From Doris Haskell : This rebel girl didn’t play that game. It involved our last two children. They didn’t get a SS# until they started delivering newspapers at the age of 10.
10:22:19 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I remember in 7th grade the teacher has the class get Social Security Cards. Do not remember the application we filled out.
10:22:39 From Lisa Reed to All panelists : Good morning! Late to the game.
10:23:33 From Graham Walter : Hi John
10:24:01 From Michelle Minner : I have used social security lists to make a lot of breakthroughs…especially because they record all of the married names or AKAs in the death records of social security.
10:24:03 From Hilary Gadsby : We have an NHS number which is different to the National insurance number
10:24:39 From Kathleen Daetsch : Yes when the time came that all children in the U.S had to get a social security number the schools in New York sent home a form to fill out for each child in the family
10:24:40 From Rebecca Williams : Our mother filled out our ssan apps for all four of us. our numbers are one digit different.
10:25:24 From Randy Seaver : The Social Security Applications and Claims Index on Ancestry is a gold mine – lists all of the names they used, birthdate and place, death date but not place, date of claim, and names of parents sometimes.
10:25:47 From Pamela Wells : I remember getting my SS card when I began my first job at 13 yrs. old teaching ballet at my dance school. Wow! Only about 58 years ago. <grin>
10:25:48 From John Laws : Hi everyone Feeling a trifle better thanks
10:26:33 From Betty-Lu Burton : I got my grandmother’s form in hopes of determining her bithdate. Did not help since when she went to apply for SS is where the confusion showed up. She used a birth certificate that had a different name (same parents) and a different birth date.
10:26:34 From Marian Koalski : Amen, Randy, about the SS Applications & Claims Index.
10:26:44 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi John; glad to hear there’s some improvement
10:27:04 From Rebecca Williams : We used our ssan at work for many years. several years ago, it changed roughly 10 years ago to an 8 digt number we used for all our dealings with our pay.
10:27:06 From Kathleen Daetsch : Yes when you marry a woman has to go down and change your name
10:27:25 From Doris Haskell : On my card, it says, “Not to be used for identification.” Our public library updated their card system, and asked for my SSN. They did not get it.
10:27:44 From Marian Koalski : I got the form for my Polish grandmother, showing her parents. She never qualified to receive SS, but she was the beneficiary of my uncle’s final benefit.
10:29:56 From Hilary Gadsby : I use Discord for WikiTree
10:30:51 From Hilary Gadsby : We use it to communicate with others working on a project together
10:34:52 From Doris Haskell : Should I register first?
10:36:59 From Doris Haskell : I’m downloading the app to my iPad.
10:44:34 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : WIKITREE The Free Family Tree, growing stronger since 2008 – https://www.wikitree.com/
10:44:35 From Doris Haskell : Okay! I have a number now.
10:45:51 From Michelle Minner : I remember those old bad days of Message Boards! you couldn’t link, you couldn’t change colors…and there were no separate little groups for a specific chat with individuals!
10:46:15 From Michelle Minner : WHOO HOO I saw Civilization! My biggest time-waster
10:46:21 From Graham Walter : You can paste in the URL the Russ posted – paste into the ‘Add Server’
10:47:06 From Kathleen Daetsch : I second doing a wacky on it
11:03:43 From Kathleen Daetsch : That is very cool
11:04:50 From John Laws : If you have UK research you could a version published in the UK Family Tree Magazine search for a subscription via Google [It is from a different publishing company.]
11:08:37 From Randy Seaver : the images of the will showed that the papers had separated into three panels over time, so they taped them together. And obscured quite a bit of information, including the date of the will writing at the end of the third image.
DearMYRTLE’s *very* distant cousin, Fräulein Schmidt, hosted this edition of WACKY Wednesday where panelists and attendees shared their favorite tools. Some were designed specifically for the genealogy market while others are mainstream and adapt perfectly well to “getting the job done.”
19:02:11 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi from B.C.!
19:02:39 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:03:18 From nadine guilbault : Excel spreadsheets. Organizes notes, logs, and odd seemingly unrelated people.
19:29:41 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : This dinosaur still uses WordPerfect, I use MSWord also but my all time favorite is still WordPerfect.
19:32:36 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Yes, they are very compatible with each other.
19:40:49 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : lol, Bless you my child for fessing up.
19:46:24 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : When doing Danish research, I use The Danish National Archives and when doing Swedish research, I use Arkivdigtal.
19:48:58 From Kathleen Daetsch : I have been using Archive.org lately it has all kinds of written materials, I’m interested in an old genealogy magazines Called Olde Ulster since a lot of my research is in Ulster county NY
19:50:14 From Kathleen Daetsch : I use the Irish Archives website for my Irish research.