DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexualorientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
10:09:19 From Maria Tegtmeier : great story Lisa
10:13:49 From Molly McKinley : I have an ancestor who died in the King Phillips War. I need to do more research on that one.
10:16:01 From Lisa Gorrell to All panelists : Got to go. Have fun! Will watch the recording.
10:17:18 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I do.
10:17:24 From Molly McKinley : I have them from 1640s forward
10:17:41 From Kathy Richardson to All panelists : 1622 and on. First was Giles Gibbs
10:17:50 From Launa Droescher: Possibly TILLOTSON family line
10:17:55 From cyndy Bray : 6th GGrand uncle served in the French and Indian wars
10:18:28 From Rita Pinneyto All panelists : My Welsh ancestor arrived in Pennsylvania in 1765.
10:18:55 From Leah Smith : Pequot War, and King Phillips. Tillotson from ?
10:19:06 From Tina Torsey to All panelists : N.H. in French and Indian War, MA in the Revolutionary War.
10:25:08 From Maria Tegtmeier : Great resource – on what wars your ancestor could have fought in!
10:25:16 From Cousin Russ : http://www.asenseoffamily.com/2013/06/finding-ohio-war-of-1812-soldiers.html
10:27:28 From Maria Tegtmeier : THANK you everyone. I love all that I learn from you all! Look forward to watching the rest of this chapter later. Gotta take care of kiddos
10:30:54 From Molly McKinley: My 3rd great grandmother’s application for her husbands 1812 War pension was still being processed in 1870
10:37:03 From Melinda Culpon : Craig Scott, CG is a US military research expert. See his webinars in the archive here: https://familytreewebinars.com/craigscott
10:37:31 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Craig Roberts Scott, MA, CG, FUGA is the author of The ‘Lost Pensions’: Settled Accounts of the Act of 6 April 1838 (Revised) and Records of the Accounting Officers of the Department of the Treasury, Inventory 14 (Revised). His most recent work is Understanding Revolutionary War and Invalid Pension Ledgers, 1818 – 1872, and the Payment Vouchers They Represent. He has authored seventeen books and several articles in the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Family Chronicle and other genealogical publications. He is the President and CEO of Heritage Books, Inc., a genealogical publishing firm with over 6,500 titles in print. A professional genealogical and historical researcher for more than thirty years, he specializes in the records of the National Archives. He is a member of the Company of Military Historians on the editorial board of the National Genealogical Society Quarterly, and is a former Director of the Association of Professional Genealogists. https://familytreewebinars.com/craigscott
11:07:50 From Molly McKinley : Great class
11:08:01 From maria capaldi to All panelists : Thank you
11:08:26 From Robbin Smith : enjoyed the class
11:08:27 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you, another great class and more info.
11:08:27 From Wanda Looney to All panelists : I learned so much from the panelists
11:08:45 From Rita Pinney to All panelists : I forgot to check in. Rita here from Indiana.
11:08:56 From maria capaldi to All panelists : Have a great day.
Daughters Of The American Revolution Lineage Books, 1890-1921
Are you a descendant of a a soldier, privateer or someone who rendered service during the American Revolution? The Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR) pride themselves on tracing their lineage back to an individual who assisted with the Revolutionary cause. Go directly to the record set here:
With each result, you will be able to view the original lineage books published by the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR). The books include the names of DAR members, officers, and state regents. You will find the following information about your ancestor:
Description of your ancestor who participated in the American Revolutions
The DAR acknowledges those who signed the Declaration of Independence, veterans of the Revolutionary War, civil servants of the provisional or State governments, signers of the Oath of Allegiance or Oath of Fidelity and Support, participants in the Boston Tea Party, prisoners of war, refugees, doctors and nurses, as well as others who assisted the Revolutionary cause.
The records are presented as PDFs. This is different than our indexed records. We have provided some search tipshere.
In which we discuss odd spellings for places like SEQUIM, WA. :::giggle:::
We also hear about Family Tree Live conference held in Alexandria Place, London the previous weekend and take a look at upcoming conferences in Ohio, California, Missouri and Washington, DC in addition to UK conferences, namely TheGenealogyShow.UK and RootsTech- London. Thanks to #FindMyPast for getting the word out EARLY concerning their Tree-to-Tree hinting that will debut this summer. We also take a look at Gary’s post in the EvidenceExplained.com Forum for a brief overview of the importance of citing what we are looking at and how this may be a cause for layered citations.
This begs the question – “Do you go back routinely to provide the updated URL for a record you’ve cited in the past?”
10:02:56 From garygauthier : Hi from Calgary
10:03:19 From Robbin Smith : Hello from Miami
10:07:30 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone! Coming to you from the Houston County, TN. Archives!
10:08:16 From Doris Haskell : Thanks! I’ll take it!
10:08:27 From Valerie Lisk : Oh My! In April? Is that common Doris?
10:08:35 From garygauthier : We had about a foot of snow in Calgary.
10:08:49 From Cousin Russ : To access an application SAR (Sons of the American Revolution) “worksheet” https://www.massar.org/forms/
10:09:18 From Doris Haskell : My application to the DAR has been denied 5 times so far.
10:12:21 From Pamela Wells : My DAR application is in process in Washington now.
10:12:46 From Kathleen Newbill to All panelists : Boy Scouts does a great job of teaching flag etiquette.
10:14:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello from Arkansas
10:14:29 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : What really started my interest in genealogy was wondering if my grandmother’s family might go back to the Revolution and that I might have a patriot in my ancestry.
10:18:30 From Danine Cozzens : Most of my DAR ancestors fall into the red-flagged category. (Having pulled all those apps, I agree.)
10:18:54 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Good morning from South Louisiana.
10:18:54 From Danine Cozzens : Girls Scouts did too!
10:19:47 From Marcia Philbrick : My original DAR application was denied because of same name issues (Jason Hammond, CT). I went in on the father of the person I originally applied on. I know that records are confused for 2 James Crawfords in KY.
10:20:10 From Molly McKinley : One of mine that was accepted is now blocked.
10:21:27 From Graham Walter : What is the ‘red flag’ issue? [NOTE: “Red flagged” means the lineage is in question, more research required.]
10:22:32 From Graham Walter : OK – that puts it into perspective
10:23:53 From Doris Haskell : Yes. Thank you. There is someone in New York trying to help me. And each rejection is for a different patriot. I’ll be happy to talk with you later.
10:24:23 From Doris Haskell : Yes.
10:24:27 From Doris Haskell : In Huntington
10:24:56 From Doris Haskell : It’s fun to say Loong Island
10:26:47 From Cousin Russ : Origins (Amazon Prime Video) https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B07M7LBDHC .
10:27:14 From Doris Haskell : In the early days, there were many farms. My ancestors built a grain mill that was powered with a water wheel.
10:28:09 From Nathan Dylan Goodwin to All panelists : Guess what I’ll be watching tonight? Origins! Thanks for the recommendation!
10:28:11 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : Yes, the nuns cheat for her
10:29:21 From Graham Walter : Unfortunately not on Prime UK 🙁
10:31:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : I’m with Nathan…but only after the Red Sox game!
10:34:23 From Doris Haskell : Where do you go to get permission to enter that cemetery?
10:36:56 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : Pat, you’re saying Dorchester “right.”
10:37:21 From Cecelia DeBolt : How interesting! I love the detective work!
10:37:29 From Doris Haskell : What if it was a secret NPE? [NOTE: In DearMYRTLE’s experience, most non-paternal event or misattributed parentage situations were indeed secret.]
10:38:32 From Randy Seaver : word for word transcription of wills and deeds reveals many secrets! The challenge is to find them and that they are readable.
10:40:11 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : http://www.bostoncemetery.com/
10:40:26 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/1358728/saint-marys-cemetery
10:40:37 From Randy Seaver : I have a dedicated transcription time every Sunday after church in order to feed the Amanuensis Monday posts.
10:41:02 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : Some parts of Dorchester are rough
10:41:15 From Dave Robison : But Marian, there are no “R’s” in Dorchester!! HA!
10:41:32 From Randy Seaver : Dohchestah?
10:41:45 From Marian Koalski to All panelists : Right, Dave!
10:42:06 From Randy Seaver : or Woiostah either
10:42:19 From Randy Seaver : Woostah
10:42:25 From Doris Haskell : As in, “Park the car in Harvard Yard”.
10:42:53 From Hilary Gadsby : Don’t like pronouncing our English place names
10:44:26 From Graham Walter : lavender?
10:44:41 From Danine Cozzens to All panelists : Squeem!
10:44:41 From Betsey Cotter to All panelists : squim
10:44:55 From Betsey Cotter to All panelists : and it is lavender
10:45:37 From Betsey Cotter to All panelists : Second biggest lavender producer outside Provence, France
10:47:00 From Randy Seaver : Janet Few (The History Interpreter) wrote several blog posts about Family Tree Live in https://thehistoryinterpreter.wordpress.com/
10:47:41 From John Laws : Also grown in North West Norfolk
10:50:08 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Time to run….Thanks for letting me discuss SAR/DAR!
10:51:41 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Nathan is in the attendees he was at Family Tree Live
10:51:42 From garygauthier : Isn’t lavender also grown in Tunbridge Wells? It’s where my grandmum was born.
10:52:09 From Randy Seaver : Nick Barratt?
10:52:46 From Randy Seaver : of WDYTYA UK
10:53:27 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Nick is good presenter did WDYTYA when it started in UK
10:53:39 From Michelle Minner : I spent my working life teaching computer systems…and the more of the senses you can engage in teaching, the better the students will retain the knowledge…I like using as many as possible.
10:55:32 From Randy Seaver : it’s probably behind his wookie
10:56:48 From Randy Seaver : Janet writes funny stuff…I enjoy her blog posts
11:01:29 From Randy Seaver : I wonder how many links in the book are still active?
11:02:08 From Cousin Russ : https://www.nathandylangoodwin.com/
11:02:57 From Graham Walter : I’ll be there at THE Genealogy Show
11:03:34 From Valerie Lisk : I need Nathan’s books in audio form so I can listen while I do research etc.
11:04:26 From Valerie Lisk : Sorry, audio.
11:04:55 From Hilary Gadsby : Many of Nathan’s books are available as audio books
11:06:40 From Valerie Lisk : Hilary, good to know. I have not been able to find them I have to look again. Thanks!
11:08:02 From Graham Walter : FGS Program Overview…https://fgs.org/conferences/program/
11:09:38 From Randy Seaver : we are going to Jamboree in Burbank on May 30-June 2 – 50th anniversary!
11:10:08 From Cathy Naborowski to All panelists : We couldn’t do local/state conferences without volunteers!!!!
11:10:45 From Devon Lee : Can’t wait to go to Jamboree!!!! http://www.scgsgenealogy.com/
11:10:52 From Robbin Smith : I wish I could go!
11:11:10 From Jenny Hawran : Jamboree is incredible. One of the best “small” conferences around
11:11:12 From Graham Walter : Nathan’s books on Audible.com … https://www.audible.com/author/Nathan-Dylan-Goodwin/B0049OJWYS
11:11:42 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : http://genealogyjamboree.com/
11:11:49 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Graham!
11:11:54 From Devon Lee : I’ll take advantage of that shuttle. Thanks for the tip Randy. We walked there last year
11:13:57 From Devon Lee : Aww. Thanks Pat.
11:14:01 From Randy Seaver : Just call the hotel for a pickup at the airport or train stop
11:14:09 From Cousin Russ : http://genealogyjamboree.com/conference-pricing
11:15:14 From Devon Lee : Mason, Ohio, here we come Russ. Can’t wait to see ya.
11:15:36 From Pamela Wells : Russ, where in Ohio, please?
11:15:49 From Cousin Russ : https://www.ogs.org/
11:16:10 From Pamela Wells : Just saw the answer, Russ….I’m from Dayton, Ohio originally
11:16:13 From Randy Seaver : Pamela, Mason, Ohio
11:16:20 From Graham Walter : Mason OH – near Cincinnati
11:16:30 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Randy!
11:17:54 From Cousin Russ : Tree to Tree Hinting at FindMyPast https://www.findmypast.co.uk/tree-change-faqs
11:17:58 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Graham!
11:18:26 From Randy Seaver : Findmypast has taken away the link they had to the collaborative tree, which was the FamilySearch Family Tree. It was searchable but not able to add to it.
11:20:35 From Pamela Wells : Does anyone know if there is there a good WikiTree You Tube tutorial available? I would like to learn more about it?
11:21:07 From Randy Seaver : Pamela, WikiTree has many YouTube videos – check their page
11:21:52 From Cousin Russ : https://www.wikitree.com/
11:22:01 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Randy and Russ!
11:22:21 From Cousin Russ : WikiTree YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76UUx8QAESc
11:22:41 From Pamela Wells : Thank you very much Myrtle!
11:22:54 From Pamela Wells : Thank you Hilary!
11:23:36 From Cousin Russ : Gary G the “History Hunter” in EvidenceExplained.com Forum? See “Why do Ancestry citations contain the website and original information as a single layer?”
11:26:11 From Randy Seaver : scroll down a bit for EE answer
11:27:40 From Randy Seaver : Ancedstry.com is the first type, and FamilySearch does both types – one for indexed records, the other for digital microfilm without indexed images
11:31:37 From Randy Seaver : A lot of Ancestry databases have waypoints in the string at the top of the image – I usually cite that in the Source Detail of the citation.
11:32:38 From Randy Seaver : .
11:33:52 From Devon Lee : I really love those waypoints
11:35:31 From Randy Seaver : I know I have WorldvitalRecords, Mocavo, MooseRoots and several more removed sites in my source citations.
11:35:34 From Randy Seaver : .
11:36:08 From Marcia Philbrick : When you document sites as cousin Russ suggested, one should be able to find it on the Wayback machine.
11:36:11 From Randy Seaver : The only solution is to download the record image and the citation and add it o your tree.
11:36:22 From Randy Seaver : .
11:36:58 From Randy Seaver : I’m not sure that the Wayback Machine has every dynamic web page with the images or record summary. I doubt that they do.
11:38:35 From Hilary Gadsby : We need to include enough detail so that it can be found even if the website changes the original record is the important part
11:38:44 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : The Way Back Machine https://archive.org/web
11:39:08 From garygauthier : The National Archives also has an archive of its web pages e.g. 1837Online
11:39:22 From Cousin Russ : The Way Back Machine https://archive.org/web
11:40:21 From Graham Walter : Have a good trip Russ
11:40:33 From Cecelia DeBolt : Thank you! Great session!
11:40:47 From Pamela Wells : Thank you all for your expertise in so many areas Panel!
11:40:57 From Doris Haskell : Thank you, everyone. Have a great trip, Russ.
11:41:08 From Pamela Wells : Safe travels, Russ!
11:41:10 From Graham Walter : Have a great everyone
Cheryl and Myrt mention AncestryDNA pages return 404 error messages. We discuss chromosome browser alternatives. Also making the list is a discussion at 1:31:25 where Randy Seaver and his correspondent have figured that Ancestry has gone from adding over 300 new databases added a few years ago to under 100 most recently – owing to Ancestry’s change in emphasis from record digitization/indexing to DNA tech support.
09:41:59 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Have a few things to mention today.
10:00:17 From Graham Walter : Hello everyone from London
10:00:57 From Cousin Russ : ONE POT MEALS FOR BUSY GENEALOGISTS (Facebook Group) https://facebook.com/groups/293310917888676
10:01:37 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Good morning all….BTWay the Pampered Chef’s “page is GREAT
10:01:59 From Robbin Smith : Hello from Miami
10:02:09 From John Laws : Gotta say Hi from Bonnie Scotland
10:02:48 From Nancy Myers : Hi everyone – from rainy Germany
10:03:19 From Gary Gauthier : Hello from Oh so cold Calgary, Alberta, Canada!
10:04:25 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello from drowning Arkansas. I had some problems with Zoom earlier so I may be registered twice
10:05:25 From Cheri Hudson Passey : I have been having trouble with Ancestry DNA the last couple of weeks. Getting error messages or things are not coming up correctly. No tree links, no circles etc.
10:06:34 From Doris Haskell : When I get that screen on AncestryDNA, sometimes it helps to click on the Refresh button.
10:06:39 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Morning, working off generator, no power. Trees, poles and lines down for a couple of days now. Snow and ice.
10:08:00 From Betty-Lu Burton : Sheryl glad you have a generator. I hope you get your normal power back quickly
10:08:29 From Cousin Russ : GEDMATCH https://www.gedmatch.com
10:08:44 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you Betty, me too! Goods neighbors though, we all chip in and help each other.
10:08:55 From Cousin Russ : DNA Painter https://dnapainter.com/
10:09:06 From Graham Walter : and Jonny Perl (DNA Painter) will be at RootsTech SLC 2019
10:09:25 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : Where can I enter a recipe?
10:09:25 From Randy Seaver : I’ve found that the AutoCluster feature on Genetic Affairshttps://geneticaffairs.com/ is helpful – it groups your AncestryDNA matches by Shared Matches. If you know your common ancestor for one person in the cluster, the others in the cluster have a common ancestor with you and your known cousin further back in time.
10:09:29 From DearMYRTLE . : Cannot wait to see Jonny Perl!
10:10:06 From Randy Seaver : You have to know common ancestors with your matches to really fill in DNA Painter.
10:10:46 From Valerie Lisk : DNA Painter is great for ancestry matches because you don’t get a chromosome browser. I was able to determine that a match who was listed as a 2nd cousin on ancestry is actually doubly related from two line that were not supposed to have crossed
10:11:28 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Ancestry DNA https://www.ancestrydna.com/kits/
10:11:52 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Living DNA https://livingdna.com
10:12:04 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : Cousin Russ — Do you drill down to county when looking at the DNA maps — or just to region?
10:12:34 From Valerie Lisk : Randy, do you need to have a minimum number of matches to get a cluster? I have 4 known cousins on ancestry and we don ‘t form a cluster.
10:13:06 From Robbin Smith : on MyHeritage I found my cousins related to my Swiss Great Grandfather confirming my hypothesis about where he lived.
10:13:30 From Betty-Lu Burton : I have both recent (mid 1800’s) and colonial ancestors.
10:13:47 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : 23& Me DNA https://www.23andme.com
10:14:10 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : FTDNA https://www.familytreedna.com
10:14:26 From Randy Seaver : Valerie, are your four cousins in the same grandparent line? I have a cluster with 37 members, down to clusters with 2 persons in them.
10:14:56 From Randy Seaver : I have 52 clusters with AncestryDNA with limits of 25 to 900 cM.
10:15:07 From Betty-Lu Burton : I uploaded my Ancestry DNA to MyHeritage. Would there be any advantage to take a MyHeritage DNA also? [Note: No.] I have Northern Italian that may have come back as Jewish DNA
10:16:05 From Randy Seaver : Betty-Lu, I don’t think so. MyHeritage finds matches with your uploaded raw data. I haven’t taken a MH DNA test but have uploaded 3 sets of raw data. Lots of matches.
10:16:05 From Valerie Lisk : Randy yes we are from the same grandparents. We share 3 siblings.
10:17:00 From Randy Seaver : The benefit of MyHeritageDNA is the chromosome browser and triangulation tools – I was permitted to put my cousin’s DNA on MH and now know which chromosomes are our Richmond/Rich line.
10:19:33 From Randy Seaver : Valerie, I’ve had a similar experience with close relations, but I don’t have any sibling matches. They seem to recommend an upper limit of 300 cM.
10:20:47 From Randy Seaver : I really need to do the SAR and Mayflower descendants. Just haven’t done it.
10:20:53 From Doris Haskell : I was told I would have my DAR membership number on Feb. 5th. Not yet.
10:21:05 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : SAR – Sons of the American Revolution Eligibility https://www.sar.org/apply-for-membership
10:21:24 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Randy.
10:22:04 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org
10:22:06 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes. Same here. My mother, her sister and their mother were all members. Piece of cake? Pretty crummy.
10:22:37 From Rachel Evans : My son isn’t interested in genealogy but loves to hear stories about the ancestors that served. I’m hoping that’s a way of hooking him in.
10:23:06 From Doris Haskell : Rachel, the stories are vital.
10:24:55 From Michelle Minner : My Revolutionary Ancestor was moved to Mt. Vernon by Washington himself, in order to build arms and ammunition. Nobody in my immediate family knew about it. Those SAR and DAR approvals have lots of information that help with your search, even if you aren’t applying for membership.
10:25:30 From Betty-Lu Burton : Ok then Quakers can then be on the list of eligible people? One of my lines were Quakers and I had figured since they opposed war that I would not be able to go through any of them for DAR
10:25:50 From Daniel Horowitz to All panelists : Hi guys, Daniel Horowitz logging in 😉
10:26:23 From DearMYRTLE . : Hiya Daniel. We just spotlighted MyHeritage DNA.
10:26:42 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Hi Daniel
10:27:18 From Doris Haskell : Betty-Lu, Quakers might qualify if they were instrumental in the formation of the new government.. They didn’t have to serve in battle.
10:29:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : Thank you Doris
10:30:19 From Marian Koalski : I think that even paying local taxes is considered a qualifying act of patriotism by the DAR.
10:30:41 From Rachel Evans : One of my ancestors nursed her brother for 40 days before he died from wounds along with 2 sisters. Their father asked for reimbursement for them and supplies used in his care. I’m planning on joining on another line but want to add her as a supplemental
10:31:45 From Marian Koalski : Good idea, Rachel! We need to have more women patriots documented and on the “rolls” of the DAR.
10:33:05 From Randy Seaver : Dave, how do you document the names, events, dates, places, relationships, etc.?
10:37:51 From Daniel Horowitz : http://live2019.myheritage.com
10:38:26 From Betty-Lu Burton : My Quaker ancestor is in the DAR database
10:41:09 From Marian Koalski : Excellent, Betty! Do you see any known relatives among the descendants?
10:41:44 From Cousin Russ : MyHeritage LIVE 2019, September 6-8, 2019 in Amsterdam, Netherlands! https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/02/announcing-myheritage-live-2019
10:42:37 From Cousin Russ : http://live2019.myheritage.com
10:43:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : I just put the known last name and the father of the man, Delaplain Ridgeway, I have been working on came up and someone has gone apparently has gone through Delaplain because his name comes up as an eligible child
10:45:57 From Graham Walter : You’ve got to get there Myrt!!
10:46:01 From Michelle Minner : I have a folding wheelchair, and used it a LOT when I traveled (even on cruise ships, and airplanes, etc.) they are GREAT for mobility.
10:47:31 From Graham Walter : Bye Daniel
10:47:32 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is neat to hear able genealogy activities in Europe
10:51:56 From Hilary Gadsby : I have had to sort out a few tangles on Family Search someone disconnected my grandmother from her family
10:53:07 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Yes, Randy!
10:53:30 From Hilary Gadsby : I am cross matching with WikiTree so that I can keep things straight.
10:55:53 From Rachel Evans : I have had the same issues with FamilySearch. I ended up adding a discussion item to the person’s profile with my argument.
10:56:07 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : I like the ability to ‘collaborate’ or ‘discuss’ on the Family Search tree.
10:56:23 From Randy Seaver : I still think FamilySearch Family Tree is a fantastic resource – it should last a long time, has all of the features needed, and has more profiles than any other collaborative tree.
10:58:52 From Valerie Lisk : I have met many cousins through familysearch.
10:58:54 From Marian Koalski : I sometimes think that most? People don’t notice the Discussions section on FamilySearch. Would the Life Sketch be a better place to explain that Uncle Jack is not dead?
10:59:51 From Randy Seaver : Some contributors to FSFT have added a message at the top of the Life Sketch to call attention to conflict issues.
10:59:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : My Ridgeway DAR is through my great grandmother’s sister
10:59:54 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Thanks for bringing in the SAR/DAR discussion… See you next week!
11:00:15 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : another question
11:01:52 From Kathleen Daetsch : Although they can’t change your tree on Ancestry I get hints that are coming from some of my dna matches adding people to there trees without any sources and no proof
11:03:02 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : An advantage of FS tree is the ability to attach the images from the county records in their collection.
11:05:19 From Valerie Lisk : Is there an advantage to having a tree on both familysearch and WikiTree? What is the advantage of WikiTree?
11:05:55 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Will the link only work if you are already on Wikitree? By on — I mean a member.
11:07:33 From Betty-Lu Burton : I consider WikiTree more stable than familysearch because those working on WikiTree tend to use sources more.
11:08:05 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Betty-Lu.
11:08:30 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : So I take it that none of the members in the screen shot are living, correct, for privacy issues? [NOTE: William Gist Froman is one of DearMYRTLE’s Unions Civil War soldiers.]
11:08:37 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Thanks for the tip about DAR. I just found by 5th great-grandfather on the list. Joseph Gaunt married to Elizabeth Borton. I’ve been looking for this info. Thanks again
11:09:18 From Randy Seaver : advantage of WikiTree is that there are different researchers than on FamilySearch. You never know where you will find a breakthrough.
11:09:46 From Randy Seaver : disadvantage is WikiTree has “only” 20-some million profiles, and FS Family Tree has over 900 million.
11:09:55 From Randy Seaver : both are FREE!
11:10:16 From Sharon Morrissey : On Wikitree .. do you have to input the information by hand or cn you upload?
11:10:19 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Hilary and Randy!
11:11:03 From Randy Seaver : on WikiTree you can upload a limited GEDCOM file, but then have to discern if your entries match an existing profile. You do this before the GEDCOM profiles are uploaded.
11:11:21 From Valerie Lisk : How do you copy your familysearch tree to WikiTree?
11:11:25 From Robbin Smith : can you add family via gedcom to wikitree?
11:12:20 From Randy Seaver : you cannot copy your FSFT profiles directly. You could download them to a family tree program like RootsMagic, create a GEDCOM, and upload it to WikiTree.
11:12:44 From Randy Seaver : WikiTree has a Help section that tells you the GEDCOM upload process.
11:13:03 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks Randy!
11:13:42 From Robbin Smith : TY i found the upload
11:20:03 From Graham Walter : WikiTree has a comment in their forum answering the question if integration with Rootsmagic – (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10218452044681491&set=gm.10161459715750374&type=3&theater&ifg=1)
11:20:50 From Kathleen Daetsch : I have seen a whole line of my gg grandmother’s line that has no sources at all on WikiTree
11:22:03 From Cousin Russ : Graham Walters’s most excellent #RootsTech suggestion https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10161459715750374/
11:22:06 From Michelle Minner : I use Avery Business cards, and print them myself! LOL…I have always liked doing them myself.
11:23:47 From Cousin Russ : For inexpensive, high quality business cards both Myrt and Graham usehttps://www.vistaprint.com
11:23:55 From Cousin Russ : To create a word cloud as Graham and DearMYRTLE shared during this webinar, try https://wordart.com/create
11:24:19 From Kathleen Daetsch : I like what Myrt said before that the guy she contacted said “I know your one of those people who use source” It seems like the new breed of researches have no use for them.
11:28:48 From Doris Haskell : I can see how that might affect my tree too. I have three people named Russell Simonson Davison. And three people named William Gleason Buckley.
11:29:35 From Gary Gauthier : Graham: A side-note for you. If people are asking about the Mac version of MetaProxy, please tell them I’m doing my best to implement similar features as Tony Proctor has done in the Windows version. I will let people know as soon as I’ve something I can send out.
11:30:21 From Graham Walter : Gary: will do
11:30:55 From Doris Haskell : Michelle Simmons Lewis is a valuable resource for help with Legacy Family Tree see: Legacy 9 Family Tree Software – Users Group (unofficial) https://www.facebook.com/groups/328361930997109/
11:31:42 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s “A Reader’s Take on Ancestry.com Problems – Part III – Reduced Number of New Record Collections” https://www.geneamusings.com/2019/02/a-readers-take-on-ancestrycom-problems.html
11:35:16 From Robbin Smith : BTW I found a pair of indices for 1850 for towns of Castleton and Northfield were incorrect as of last week
11:37:57 From Cousin Russ : ONE POT MEALS FOR BUSY GENEALOGISTS (Facebook Group) https://facebook.com/groups/293310917888676.
11:39:13 From Cheri Hudson Passey to All panelists : Congratulations Laurie!!
11:40:15 From June Butka : I will participate with a recipe with my Sweet and sour meatballs. [NOTE: Thank-you, June!]
11:40:44 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Randy, what was the total amount of DNA customers with the 10 percent interested in doing genealogy?
11:41:17 From Graham Walter : Have a great day everyone
11:41:21 From Rachel Evans : Have a great day everyone!
11:41:39 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Randy, what was the total amount of DNA customers with the 10 percent interested in doing genealogy?
11:42:05 From susan bleimehl : Really nice event today. Thanks.
11:42:14 From Randy Seaver : Brenda, 15 million DNA testers probably 1.5 million are genealogists with a tree over 100 profiles. Just an estimate.
11:42:24 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : A genealogy society I belong to is trying to figure out how to connect to those very people.
11:42:39 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Yippee! Electrical company is finally here to install a new pole and get up back up and running.
11:42:42 From Pam Helm : Thank you for adding me
11:43:24 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Thanks, Myrtle. Do you want new recipes contributions?
11:43:39 From Doris Haskell : I’m not sure if I’m in this group already.
11:43:47 From Randy Seaver : Brenda, you can search on Ancestry Member Connect for subscribers in a community. Target them with an Ancestry message asking them to email back to you.
11:44:23 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Thanks Randy!
11:44:33 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Got it. I cook from scratch, since I’m allergic to soy and MSG
11:44:33 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : I clicked join but no reply
11:44:38 From Rachel Evans : I will have to join and go through my recipes.
11:44:40 From Randy Seaver : If your society is brave enough, offer your society to help make a family tree with them.
11:44:54 From Valerie Lisk : You can buy riced cauliflower in the freezer section.
11:47:42 From Randy Seaver : Brenda, Ancestry’s “Search > Member Directory” doesn’t let me find members in a place any more. Only ancestral names in a place. Sorry for the bad lead.
11:49:29 From Randy Seaver : -35 C is about the same as -35 F
11:49:44 From Randy Seaver : the crossover is at -40 C = -40 F
11:49:56 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : I think it will be a challenge to connect people who have taken the DNA test to actually doing genealogical research. But I think that most societies will need to do this – to help get younger members as our members age.
11:51:50 From Randy Seaver : A message on Facebook on a community page might put out the word about DNA tests, family trees and genealogy societies.
11:52:46 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : I like that suggestion> Something all the lines of “Do something more with your DNA results”
11:53:13 From Randy Seaver : exactly! Use an example of connecting to a DNA match.
11:54:05 From Kathleen Daetsch : Goodbye
Biggest breakthroughs today? Persistent problems with AMTs and everyone teaches Ol’ Myrt here a thing or two about switching from .pdf to .png.
Problems with the newly indexed Ancestry Member Trees. This is particularly vexing. MyHeritage manages to index trees daily. Why does it take months for Ancestry to accomplish this? And why does Ancestry only point to trees that have an Ancestry.com image attached? This problem has gone on for over two years. We’re not evening mentioning the problems with links to indexed images returning a 404 error at least 50% of the time, regardless of end user operating system or web browser.
DAR & SAR – honoring Revolutionary War ancestors.
Newspapers.com – overcoming the “save as a .pdf” by choosing “print” then changing from your printer to your photo editing software of choice.
1939 Register (England & Wales) and why lines are redacted.
RootsTech 2019 (SLC), RootsTech 2019 (London) and #notatRootsTech
09:54:25 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Genealogy Bargains https://genealogybargains.com/
09:54:40 From Pat Kuhn : https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/77830208/person/46374370891/facts
10:00:40 From Hilary Gadsby : I have also been watching the videos today as I want to use the source writer in Legacy 9
10:01:04 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:02:02 From Lisa Gorrell : Good morning from smoky No. California. Working hard fighting a cold.
10:02:20 From grahamwalter : Hello everyone from London(ish)
10:02:44 From grahamwalter : cool
10:03:24 From Barbara Gressel : Good morning from Springfield, MO
10:03:58 From Pamela Wells to All panelists : Good morning from St Pete, FL
10:04:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello from Arkansas
10:04:52 From Robbin Smith : Hello from Miami
10:08:26 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Old Alabama Family Photos Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/136034463747952/
10:09:57 From Susan Ennis : Glad to be here with everyone!
10:17:20 From Marian Koalski : A penmanship award for SPEED! And that’s a pretty fabulous speed — faster than any typist I’ve heard of.
10:17:57 From Yvonne Demoskoff : That’s such a great idea for a grandparents book, Myrt!
10:18:08 From Cousin Russ : Blog post about an article from Newspaper.com USCGC Halfmoon (WHEC-378) and the Lobster Wars https://worthy2be.wordpress.com/2018/11/17/uscgc-halfmoon-whec-378-and-the-lobster-wars/
10:18:50 From Randy Seaver : That’s 4 words a second. How in the world? A Shorthand system? Readable?
10:20:17 From Randy Seaver : I’m lucky to write two letters a second, or type 4 letters a second.
10:20:21 From Marian Koalski : Some of my high school classmates took a Speed Writing class, which was a mixture of shorthand and abbreviations, I understand.
10:22:38 From Randy Seaver : Newspaper research is often the key to a breakthrough for family members. It’s why I do my weekly “Seavers in the News” posts on Thursdays.
10:23:16 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I found an article that my father-in-law found a ring when he was 12 years old and returned to the owners and received an award.
10:23:28 From Bill West : Good afternoon from overcast Massachusetts
10:23:38 From Lisa Gorrell : I love searching in newspapers. I wrote a blog post this past weekend about my great uncle, who I couldn’t find until I used his nickname “Toofer.” https://mytrailsintothepast.blogspot.com/2018/11/52-ancestors-in-52-weeks-week-46-random.html
10:23:41 From Deb Andrew : If you know the name of the newspapers for the area, you can choose those newspapers to search first.
10:24:45 From Deb Andrew : Yes
10:24:59 From Robbin Smith : many times i have seen the xx years ago
10:25:29 From Marian Koalski : Yes! A 1966 “looking backward” item about a great-uncle’s funeral in 1936 in another state was VERY helpful.
10:27:56 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Another article was about an accident that my grandfather had with his farm wagon and a bus in 1919. He was seriously injured my mom and aunt mentioned the accident they were not born yet. His injuries included broken leg and a fractured skull. I doubt that Mom and her sister knew the extent of his injuries.
10:29:22 From Lisa Gorrell : The problem with this, if the article is long, the print is really small.
10:29:46 From Deb Andrew : 19th November my anniversary. [HAPPY ANNIVERSARY DEB!]
10:29:57 From Deb Andrew : You can save it as a jpg.
10:30:27 From Randy Seaver : I use the Windows Snipping Tool to turn the PDF into a JPG so I can put it in a blog post.
10:31:17 From Randy Seaver : Lisa, sometimes I make 2 or 3 separate images so that the print is readable.
10:32:45 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hi Graham. I can see you
10:33:17 From Deb Andrew : If someone clicks on the source citation, it will take them to the article.
10:33:35 From Susan Ennis : I found out about my 2x great grandfather’s two patents (circa 1878) from newspaper articles!
10:33:40 From Graham Walter : Thanks Betty
10:34:47 From Marcia Philbrick : Shirley Player – fact question — Was this a miscellaneous fact in Roots Magic? [ No, Marcia, this was merely a search for the surname “Player” at Newspapers.com.]
10:35:10 From Betty-Lu Burton : We need to remember that in newspapers our ancestors names can be found many ways: nicknames, initials, child of, (or any relative of).
10:35:45 From Marian Koalski : And misspelled names, speaking from personal experience.
10:36:11 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I save as JPG to Ancestry then copy that as JPG to my computer. Also save as PDF to the computer.
10:37:52 From Betsey Cotter : Hit destination then select pdf
10:38:12 From Marcia Philbrick : If you use print/save and do a selection, it then gives you a choice of jpeg or pdf
10:38:59 From Marcia Philbrick : I have the option under Chrome
10:39:21 From Susan Ennis : Using Print/Save gives the options to SAVE as jpeg or pdf as contrasted to using the Clip feature. Works for me in these browsers: Firefox, Safari, and Chrome in my experience.
10:40:59 From Randy Seaver : Marcia’s tip is correct – Print/Save gets you to a “Save as JPG”
10:41:12 From Lisa Gorrell : I use Chrome. When I use Print/Save, I choose whole page, then I have two choices save as JPG and save as PDF. I save as PDF for whole page and then save as JPG for clipping.
10:41:25 From Marcia Philbrick : I’m using Chrome
10:41:54 From Marcia Philbrick : Is there a way to save Ancestry media as JPEG without having to save to the person first? [Yes, merely click Share>Print.]
10:44:12 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : welcome back Graham.
10:44:55 From Kathleen Daetsch : Since my family is from New York I use Fulton Press. I have found a great deal of information the Obituaries are a valuable resource in connecting family members.
My opinion is that Ancestry.com should index every person in every tree whether they have “Ancestry Sources” or not, so that their customers can find information about their ancestors that other researchers have found. Yes, I understand it’s a big computer challenge – but they’re a big company with many servers, and charge customers money to search all of their databases. This is more BAD NEWS!
10:47:03 From Marcia Philbrick : My ‘test’ search used to produce 24 trees. Now, with the same search, I’m only getting about 3 trees. Those three trees change depending on how I structure the search.
10:47:18 From Marian Koalski : This failure in searching Ancestry Member Trees must cost DNA testers a LOT of useful contacts!
10:47:43 From Bill West : I agree, Randy!
10:48:01 From Marcia Philbrick : Yes, Marian! I do believe it is affecting DNA screens — shared ancestor hints and circles.
10:48:53 From Maria Tegtmeier : I conquer with Randy’s French
10:49:13 From Marcia Philbrick : My mom’s DNA test has more shaky leaf hints than I do. (about twice as many)
10:51:48 From Marian Koalski : A lot of tree contributors don’t do DNA testing. Won’t those be missed in Circles, etc., if the Member Tree doesn’t have an Ancestry source.
10:53:11 From Marcia Philbrick : There is a lot of collaboration opportunities that are lost when individuals or trees aren’t included in the indexing
10:53:53 From Bill West : IMHO, they are so focused on he DNA tests they are neglecting the family tree website
10:54:26 From Graham Walter : Good point Bill – certainly seems that way
10:54:39 From Marian Koalski : I’m about to non-renew my Ancestry subscription. Maybe I’ll mention the failing tree searches and the lack of new collections as reasons.
10:56:39 From Doris Haskell : JPEG
10:56:54 From Pamela Wells : jpeg
10:56:57 From Kathleen Daetsch : jpeg
10:57:43 From Cheryl : What is a PNG? How is it different from a TIFF? [ Ol’ Myrt Googled your question and found a multitude of great responses.]10:58:42 From Pamela Wells to All panelists : PNG format is a lossless compression file format, which makes it a common choice for use on the Web. PNG is a good choice for storing line drawings, text, and iconic graphics at a small file size. JPG format is a lossy compressed file format. This makes it useful for storing photographs at a smaller size than a BMP.
10:58:54 From Lisa Gorrell : I like that the date and page comes up first when saving. That’s how I start all of my images, then the name of the newspaper, and then the person of interest.
10:59:10 From Graham Walter : PNG – interpretation – http://webhub.com/dynhelp:viewTn:0:catalog=TnNote,id=whypng
10:59:16 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I always put them in a folder called ged docs and then I will put them in the proper folder later most of the time they never get out of the ged docs folder LOL
10:59:19 From bjanvier to All panelists : Is Snag It a free proram? Different than the clipping tool with MS Windows 10, right?
10:59:21 From Joanne Parkes : When I clip a newspaper article, I simultaneously transcribe the article and then save the clipping as source in RootsMagic using a copy the source title & the name of the person & save in their folder
10:59:53 From Joanne Parkes : Save as jpeg.
11:01:05 From Joanne Parkes : Use Macintosh Powerbook & the new version of IOW has a built in clipper called Screenshot
11:01:24 From Cousin Russ :DearMYRTLE uses Snagit from https://www.techsmith.com
11:01:40 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Docent duty calls! I’ll see you next week.
11:01:51 From Marian Koalski : Macs also have a clipper called Grab among the standard applications that come with it.
11:04:09 From Cousin Russ : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org
11:04:54 From DearMYRTLE . : Thank-you, Marian. 🙂
11:07:12 From Marian Koalski : Good work, Dave! Revitalizing your SAR chapter as well as your local gen Soc.
11:08:36 From Marian Koalski : DAR for me
11:08:37 From Robbin Smith : my people haven’t been here long enough
11:08:55 From bjanvier : I would like to contact Dave Robinson. Does he have a blog or email I could use? [NOTE: You’ll find Dave Robison on Facebook here: https://www.facebook.com/dave.robison1 ]
11:08:56 From Randy Seaver : I’ve lost my round tuit button for SAR and GSMD. I want to do those, but haven’t done it.
11:09:01 From Mary Buchholz t : I belong to DAR – with 2 Patriots and help in the application process for others.
11:09:05 From Sue Tolbert : Yes DAR. Serving as Chapter Registrar is a great learning experience.
11:09:08 From Marcia Philbrick : My great-grandmother was in DAR. I joined on her application — but her patriot is in question. I had to go back a generation to join on his father.
11:09:18 From DearMYRTLE . : RootsTech 2019 SLC https://www.rootstech.org
11:09:20 From Crystal Toenjes : I’m turning in my DAR paperwork after Thanksgiving…FINALLY! Also working on my paperwork for ADEAW. (Associated Daughters of Early American Witches.)
11:09:54 From Marian Koalski : Sometimes you’ll find lineage societies for families who came later than the Revolution, like Pioneers of Franklin County, Iowa (made-up name).
11:11:49 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes I am!!
11:12:04 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : And I am registered and have my room reserved.
11:12:59 From Doris Haskell : I don’t ever want to stop being a Temple and Family History Consultant.
11:13:54 From Marcia Philbrick : #notatRootsTech is GREAT!
11:14:52 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hillary it sounds like you will be busy next year
11:15:04 From Graham Walter : https://one-name.org/events/
11:17:27 From Marian Koalski : More real wool!
11:19:11 From Marian Koalski : Hallelujah, John Laws! That is civilization!
11:20:29 From Randy Seaver : It’s always a challenge for this California kid. Snow is great, but ice is treacherous. It rained one year and had to walk from Marriott to Radisson pushing Linda’s wheelchair into the 40 mph wind and driving rain. Plus, going north is slightly uphill. Whew, tiring pushing the chair.
11:20:39 From DearMYRTLE . : Legacy Family Tree (software) https://familytreewebinars.com/legacy_videos.php
11:20:48 From Hilary Gadsby to Betty-Lu Burton and all panelists : I certainly will but I should be retiring the following year so work will not be getting in the way
11:21:29 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I think it is under the timeline, special properties.
11:21:34 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Geoff Rasmussen’s teaching style is better than so many I’ve seen. He paces it so you can see where he’s clicking before he moves on, and he explains why he chooses one option over another.
11:21:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Send Geoff a e-mail asking for a short webinar on the subject
11:22:34 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : The have the training videos you can buy.
11:22:37 From Hilary Gadsby : I have been watching the webinars today
11:22:53 From Bill West : I use the On This Date and Calendar functions in RM to post a daily family history post on FB
11:23:02 From Hilary Gadsby : for Legacy 9
11:23:10 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : You can always asked me.
11:23:25 From Jim Everhart : there is a step by step Legacy 9 series , 7 parts done already with 2 more to go
11:23:56 From Deb Andrew : I did that one, it was fun!
11:26:37 From Cousin Russ : Genealogy Do-Over Book https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Genealogy_Do_Over_Workbook.html?id=gIvkjwEACAAJ&source=kp_cover
11:27:59 From Hilary Gadsby : I am trying to improve what I uploaded to WikiTree 7 years ago but am easily sidetracked
11:28:01 From Randy Seaver : Surreptitious Name changes explain a lot too.
11:28:44 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I call them drop ins, they just fell from the sky.
11:29:03 From Randy Seaver : Interesting article today on Legacy Tree Genealogists blog about name changes https://www.legacytree.com/blog/name-changes-in-genealogy-research
11:29:26 From Cousin Russ : Genealogy Do-Over Book https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Genealogy_Do_Over_Workbook.html
11:29:40 From Cousin Russ : Old Alabama Family Photos Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/136034463747952/
11:34:24 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I have a Ulster County New York Group, I have a great deal of my relations up there.
11:35:16 From Hilary Gadsby : Local groups are great place to find old photographs I belong to at least 1 for my home city.
11:37:07 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : yes
11:37:22 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : that is the group
11:38:09 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I also have two family groups on facebook
11:39:08 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : one is my Family in Ireland and England my grandmothers family
11:39:24 From Cousin Russ : If you are have genealogy methodogy, technology or research questions, be sure to consult Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 12,300+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list –
11:39:50 From Doris Haskell : Thanks, everyone, for yet another Magnificent Mondays with Myrt
11:41:40 From DearMYRTLE : This is the link to Cousin Russ’ ingenious “The Organized Genealogist File Listing Directory” http://bit.ly/TheOrganizedGenealogistFILES
11:41:52 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : Is Lawlor the same name
11:45:56 From Graham Walter : Leila Davis born 1907
11:47:06 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I do that too
11:55:13 From Gordon Erickson to All panelists : Regarding the “cat” I didn’t say yes, I was outvoted. 🙂