NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was provided by Alan Phillips who sponsors Unlock the Past Cruises for genealogists. Mr. Myrt and I will attend this all day pre-cruise conference in person Seattle before we board ship for our Alaska adventure. Now non-travelers may attend the pre-cruise conference virtually.
Unlock the Past in Seattle with Blaine Bettinger and Maurice Gleeson LIVESTREAM
DNA | Irish research | Genealogy and the Little Ice Age | The hidden web: digging deeper
Adelaide, South Australia, 14 August 2018 – Unlock the Past Cruises announces that the Unlock the Past in Seattle full-day two-stream conference (previously announced) will now also be available to watch live online – and for a limited time after as a series of 10 recorded webinars.
Date & time: Thursday 6 September 2018, 9am-5pm (Pacific Daylight Time)
– watch in your own home – from anywhere in the world
– attend in person at Seattle Public Library, 1000 4th Ave, Seattle, WA
live stream tv music or video button icon or sign live on air broadcasting movie or radio program
– US$65 – Unlock the Past in Seattle Livestream
– US$45 – attend in-person at Seattle Public Library, 1000 4th Ave, Seattle, WA
– US$20 – upgrade from in-person attendance to add access all 10 recorded sessions after
Theprogram will feature 10 presentations in two streams – a DNA stream and an Irish/general stream
BLAINE BETTINGER (USA) – Blaine is a professional genealogist specialising in DNA evidence. He is the author of the long-running blog The Genetic Genealogist and the books The family tree guide to DNA testing and Genetic genealogy.
DR MAURICE GLEESON (UK) – Maurice was voted Genetic Genealogist of the Year 2015 (SurnameDNA Journal) and Rockstar Genealogist, Ireland 2016 (Anglo-Celtic Connections). He runs a variety of Y-DNA Surname projects and organises the DNA Lectures at Genetic Genealogy Ireland.
CYNDI INGLE (USA) – Cyndi is the creator and owner of the award-winning web site Cyndi’s List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet cyndislist.com, a categorised index to more than 333,000 online resources. In its first three years, Cyndi’s List was voted the best genealogy site.
WAYNE SHEPHEARD (Canada) – A retired geologist, Wayne now spends most of his time on family history research. This has resulted in the pioneering publication Surviving Mother Nature’s tests: The effects climate change and other natural phenomena have had on the lives of our ancestors.
About Unlock the Past
Australian based Unlock the Past was established in 2009. It is the event and publishing division of Gould Genealogy & History which has served family and local historians since 1976. It is a collaborative venture involving an international team of expert speakers, writers, organisations and commercial partners to promote history and genealogy through innovative major events and a new publishing brand. It also maintains general and events directories online. Since 2010 Unlock the Past has run over 130 events, including expos, roadshows, regional seminars, history and genealogy cruises around the world – even Australia’s first ever battlefield tour. They’ve published over 100 guide books and handy guides for researchers, all of them offered in print and ebook editions.
25 June 2018 Mondays with MyrtOur flagship webinar, where we talk about anything and everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the last week. Our special guest is Myrt’s cousin David Taylor, developer of The Family Nexus – a map and pedigree chart smart phone app that alerts users to the locations of ancestral events.
10:02:16 From Dave Robison: https://blog.myheritage.com/2018/06/myheritage-offers-free-dna-tests-to-help-reunite-separated-migrant-children-with-their-parents/
10:02:31 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Morning to everyone.
10:03:07 From June Butka to All panelists : Warm hellos to everyone.
10:05:04 From June Butka : Warm Hello to everyone.
10:05:11 From David Taylor to All panelists : I’d like to share this link later on when I talk about the crowdfunding campaign. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:05:11 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I’ve been using Newspapers.com for two weeks now, and finding more goodies – here’s one that correctsd a death date – https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/06/3rd-great-grandmother-mary-vaux.html
10:05:18 From Deb Andrew : Goodmorning.
10:05:37 From Robbin Smith : Good Morning from warm and humid miami
10:05:39 From JoAnn : Good Afternoon
10:05:46 From Holly Hansen : Great!
10:05:55 From Pamela to All panelists : Cheers, everyone!
DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
10:07:23 From Sheryl : Hello from South Louisiana
10:08:37 From Randy Seaver : Good morning from sunny but still cool Chula Vista CA
10:10:20 From Bill West : Good morning from gloomy southeastern Massachusetts
10:12:02 From Marcia Philbrick : Myrt – I live on highway 36 in Kansas (Seneca, KS).
10:13:22 From June Butka : His phone is at 49% battery life.
10:13:35 From Dave Robison Available for Android??
10:15:03 From Hilary Gadsby: Not yet
10:18:36 From Randy Seaver : I doubt that Geneva Tweddell married a Roger Dumb or a Johnny Dee, but wouldn’t that be funny?
10:19:29 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Did he mention “Hardin” and if so, a location or a family name?
10:20:00 From Hilary Gadsby : Being able to display on your phone makes it easier to share with family.
10:20:55 From Randy Seaver : hi True Lewis, are you home now?
10:22:07 From True Lewis : Hello Randy! – yes , I made it back last night.
10:23:15 From Marcia Philbrick : uninstalling the app and re-installing fixed the crashing app for me
10:23:20 From Randy Seaver : so you do need [to link to a] FamilySearch Family Tree, right?
10:23:36 From deecoz : How does the data get into the app? (I had a crash & missed that point.)
10:23:56 From Cousin Russ : email@example.com
10:24:06 From David Taylor : Crowd sourcing the fundraising efforts for the Android vresion of the program https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:24:22 From Cousin Russ : https://thefamilynexus.com/
10:24:27 From Cousin Russ : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:24:29 From nana2 : Thanks, Dave Taylor. There goes my plans for yard work today. I got the premium edition at RootsTech2018, but haven’t really felt like I understood it well enough to use it much until today. Thanks again!
10:25:25 From Janine Edmee Hakim : Thank you, very interesting
10:27:08 From DearMYRTLE : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:28:52 From Hilary Gadsby : Can you use it anywhere in the world?
10:29:14 From David Taylor : @Hilary Yes it works everywhere!
10:29:28 From Randy Seaver : the late late show video was wonderful fun
10:29:41 From Hilary Gadsby : great video
10:29:47 From Marian Koalski : I was amazed by the visit with Paul McCartney.
[We shared some pic of True Lewis attending the Daughters of the American Revolution annual “Congress.” Find out more about the DAR at http://www.DAR.org ]
10:29:54 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Beautiful True.
10:30:01 From Marian Koalski : Superb gown, True!
10:30:24 From Melinda Culpon : Absolutely beautiful!
10:30:43 From Hilary Gadsby : loved that pboto
10:32:16 From Marian Koalski : You make me want to go back, True! I remember long days and sore feet.
10:35:47 From Linda : The early Daughters were laughed at for purchasing useless swamp land!
10:38:57 From Deb Andrew : Why would you have to cover the insigma? Is it a secret society?
10:40:09 From Marian Koalski : It isn’t secret. I’m puzzled by what True says about the insignia. Around Mass., we’re encouraged to wear the insignia to public events — but behave like ladies!
10:40:32 From Marian Koalski : We wear them at Memorial Day observances, etc.
10:40:36 From deecoz : Campfire Girls used to have robes worn only within the meetings. As did Job’s Daughters. Customs vary with organizations and times.
10:41:45 From Linda : DAR insignia may be worn in public at official events. However, it must be covered when eating in restaurants, in bars, etc. Otherwise, it is just worn at DAR meetings and conferences.
10:45:00 From June Butka : I loved following you [True Lewis] on Facebook.
10:47:46 From Cousin Russ : Black ProGen hangouts http://www.whoisnickasmith.com/blackprogen/
10:48:37 From True Lewis : Linda that is the way I was taught about Insignia in Public. Meetings and Conferences and Official Events.
11:00:24 From Randy Seaver : Pat – you could put the obituary transcription in the Notes and the source in the Source field
11:02:20 From Marian Koalski : I try to put any images of documents that I have into the Memories section, in hopes that people will see the facts more clearly.
11:03:32 From Molly : I have a step-great grandfather who married 2 Alices. My great grandmother was the second one. All the children listed were from the 1st Alice. I keep finding all his children being atriibuted to my great grandmother.
11:09:34 From Marcia Philbrick : As a teacher in a small rural school, we had two students with the same first, middle and last name and same birthdate. They were in the same graduating class. We told them apart in our record keeping by the community they lived in.
11:10:59 From Marian Koalski : Tough to be an educator in that situation!
11:13:40 From Cousin Russ : Citing “LOCATIONAL DATA” in one’s own office – Evidence Explained FB Group https://www.facebook.com/evidenceexplained/photos/a.304242282984494.69857.297329857009070/1979628775445828/?type=3
11:14:08 From Dave Robison : Thanks for letting me discuss NERGC. Registration will be opening soon. http://www.nergc.org
11:14:39 From Marian Koalski : It would help me find my own stuff again!
11:14:49 From June Butka : That would be okay if that is where the items stays. You would need to remember to change it if you moved.
11:15:02 From jacquelinewilson : Overshare – because every time it gets moved, you would have to change the station!
11:15:18 From Molly : I am laughing about that as I am constantly moving stuff around. It would not work for me.
11:16:25 From June Butka : Provenence is what I put in my meta data on a digital copy.
11:16:49 From Marian Koalski : I make notations about folder and file name in my citations. They’re mostly for me anyway, and it might help a grand-kid find it later.
11:23:51 From Melinda Culpon : Dr Jones at IGHR says that he edits almost all footnotes and citations get edited as a printed space issue.
11:23:54 From Cousin Russ : https://www.facebook.com/evidenceexplained/
11:24:22 From jacquelinewilson : No wonder I had issues with it yesterday!
11:25:15 From Melinda Culpon : you were missed!
11:27:14 From Randy Seaver : That was Hannah Morden of Living DNA. I talked to her and David Nicholson at Jamboree
11:27:22 From True Lewis : Thanks for everything Dear Myrtle (Pat) & Cousin Russ for being on this Journey with me from the beginning! I enjoyed being here this afternoon.
11:28:01 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : An honor to have you!
11:28:19 From Deb Andrew : Is it more than what is on your results on the web page?
11:28:44 From Randy Seaver : how much did the book cost?
11:28:47 From True Lewis : My Welsh line is J1 my Evans.
11:29:36 From Marcia Philbrick : Email from tngusers list — Many TNG (The Next Generation) web sites were hacked last night. It evidently affected sites running TNG 11. The resolution is to restore from a backup and then update to version 12.0.1 http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/
11:35:12 From Randy Seaver : I was at San Diego FamilySearch Library last Saturday finding English parish records for my project study presentation
11:35:23 From Cousin Russ : Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback
This practical advice for family historians include:
DNA reference groups
The British Institute
Virginia History of History and Culture
genealogy society insurance
Research Like a Pro eBook from Family Locket
Rhode Island Military Records books on eBay
09:49:38 From Dave Robison: Just want to brag a bit. WMGS is slowly approaching 200 members and at CSG, we held our 50th anniversary “celebration” last Saturday.
09:54:11 From Molly to All panelists : I don’t have a camera any more since Hurricane Irma.
10:00:01 From John Laws : Hi Everyone. How ya doing?
10:00:22 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Morning to all.
10:00:44 From Melinda Culpon : Howdy from Texas!
10:00:58 From June Butka : Doing well, John. Love e seeing your garden photos.
10:02:22 From Merlin : Hello from Wisconsin–raining this AM, again.
10:03:14 From Liv Birgit : Hello from France. Had some trouble joining, it was all in French.
10:03:17 From Hilary Gadsby : No significant rain here for a while now
10:05:51 From Molly : Arkansas is like a black hole in the older records.
10:07:21 From Bill West : Goood morning! Finally here from sunny Massachusetts
10:07:39 From Randy Seaver : there are some free databases at AmericanAncestors but you need a guest account
10:07:49 From Cousin Russ : NEHGS https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx
10:08:01 From Molly : You can have some of our Florida rain…it has rained for 2 weeks now.
10:08:08 From Randy Seaver : AA has probate packets now for several counties – original records!
10:10:29 From Dave Robison : We recently had a Welsh research presentation from Susan Sit at WMGS. Part of her presentation included pronouncing the name of that town with far too many consonants. She also pronounced the LL for us1
10:11:03 From Randy Seaver : how do you pronounce the double L?
10:12:50 From SMurphy : I hear Lincolnshire or Lancashire the same, based on sound?
10:13:28 From Marian Koalski : If you put the tip of your tongue against the roof of your mouth and blow air out the “sides” of your tongue it makes the sound. Some people call it a lateral lisp.
10:14:19 From Pat Kuhn : Delaware has the Hundreds also
10:14:57 From Melinda Culpon : similar to our counties in the US – my UK ancestors are from West Riding
10:15:27 From Cousin Russ : 2018 British Institute https://isbgfh.org/cpage.php?pt=56
10:24:15 From Dave Robison : For detailed Bassett Family info, see http://www.bassettbranches.org/
10:25:22 From Dave Robison : Click the “Splinters from the tree” to view newsletters that have been published monthly since 2014
10:25:29 From deecoz : Russ, when you say “validate” what do you mean? Confirming their lines as well as yours? or more?
10:25:57 From Cousin Russ : Validate – DNA Matches my Paper Trail
10:28:16 From Rebecca: SMyrphy: Lincolnshire or Lancashire? Are you referring to pronunciation or geography. Lincoln is the major city in Lincolnshire East of Sheffield; and Lancaster is the major city in Lancashire Northwest of Manchester. I have a time with British English too.
10:28:28 From Debra : I manage over 40 kits and have had fanatistic results with the matching. Only one was a NPE, I have found relatives for 5 NPEs. I’ve tested at all of the top companies.
10:30:11 From Cousin Russ : Laws Family Register http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com/
10:31:13 From SMurphy : I have tested with all of the companies. Now waiting for the results from Living DNA. I manage 7 kits. My ancestry is Great Britian-Lancashire
10:34:53 From deecoz : We go from birthing descendants to hunting ancestors!
10:35:06 From Robbin Smith : hello finally found a link that worked!
10:36:18 From Dave Robison : I can vouch for Randy’s New England origins as he pronounced “Leominster” correctly!!
10:38:22 From SMurphy : From AncestryDNA I am 25% Europe West, 16% Ireland/Scotland/Wales, 5% Scandinavia,
10:38:23 From Randy Seaver : My DNA comparison is https://www.geneamusings.com/2017/05/comparison-of-my-autosomal-dna.html
10:38:27 From Robbin Smith : me either
10:38:33 From Cousin Russ : My DNA comparison is https://www.geneamusings.com/2017/05/comparison-of-my-autosomal-dna.html
10:38:46 From jacquelinewilson : I have tested at 3 companies and have the kit for LivingDNA (FtDNA=MtDNA way back when + 23&ME + Ancestry). I have 1 person with a match of 684cM and 5 others in the 300 range. Unfortunately, the person with the highest DNA match has not answered my Ancestry message.
10:41:31 From Randy Seaver : I just received a first cousin 1x removed on MyHeritage (I know who she is), and now have 1 first cousin (AncestryDNA), 1 firast cousin 1x removed (MyHeritage), 2 first cousins 2x removed (Ancestry), 2 first cousin 2x removed (MyHeritage) and 1 2nd cousin (Ancestry).
10:44:04 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Genealogy Community on Google+ Plus: http://bit.ly/DearMYRTLEonGoogle
10:44:14 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/
10:44:27 From Cousin Russ : GeneaWebinars — http://geneawebinars.com/
10:44:40 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Calendar http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/calendar/
10:47:00 From June Butka : Randy. where in New Hampshire?
10:47:42 From Randy Seaver : Salem NH
10:48:06 From SMurphy : Now myHeritage percentages are off compared to the others.
10:48:07 From June Butka : Wow very close to where I live.
10:50:20 From cyndy : The testing companies tests are slightly different so expect to see differences in estimates
10:50:36 From SMurphy : I expected them to be the same or close.
10:51:12 From June Butka: I expect different DNA results from each company.
10:51:25 From Randy Seaver : June, I’ll come visit you the next time I visit Salem. don’t hold your breath, though – no trips planned for foreseeable future because of Linda’s health.
10:51:36 From Bill West : I have mostly English ancestors but Ancestry says I have 25% Scandinavian ethnicity . Those Vikings really got around.
10:51:42 From Robbin Smith : me too .1% ashkenzai
10:51:51 From Robbin Smith : on 23andMe
10:52:29 From Robbin Smith : I expect them to be pretty much the same
10:52:49 From Hilary Gadsby : The British Isles had a lot of invasions so going to have same DNA as other Europeans
10:53:07 From SMurphy : I have tested with Ancestry, 23andme, myHeritage, National genographic, Living DNA (waiting for results)
10:54:14 From June Butka : Always welcome anytime, Randy. We still need that paper trail cousin match. I haven’t seen you as a DNA match to you on my sites. not surprised because of our distant cousin relationship.
10:54:22 From Randy Seaver : dropping their seed all over England but not Scotland, right?
10:54:27 From Marcia Philbrick : DNA — Recent discussion in a FB group about ethnicity. The poster had paper genealogy going back to Scotland / Ireland while ethnicity had high % Scandinavian but very little Scottish / Irish. My DNA is similar – 17% Scandinavian while paper strongly points to Scotland.
10:54:32 From jacquelinewilson : My ethnicity results prove the family story that my birth father is from Greece (or there about).
General Data Protection Regulation (EU)
11:01:16 From Randy Seaver : what liability are you trying to guard against?
11:01:31 From Marcia Philbrick : Is FGS the best place for a society to find info on dealing with GDPR?
11:04:36 From Cousin Russ : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
11:04:44 From Cousin Russ : https://fgs.org
11:05:02 From jacquelinewilson : Several small companies are now going out of business like Mitosearch because of GDPR! BOO HOO!
11:05:16 From Cousin Russ : https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/05/21/the-gdpr-you-me/
11:05:36 From Cousin Russ : https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/05/20/the-casualties-of-gdpr/
11:06:44 From Robbin Smith : good point about instituional knowledge
11:08:21 From Marian Koalski : Dave Robison, do you have a How-To-Be-President document (etc. for sec, treasurer, program chair…)?
11:08:58 From Marian Koalski : My husband started one for our square-dance club, and it was revolutionary.
11:09:26 From Hilary Gadsby : This is from UK ICO https://iconewsblog.org.uk/2017/08/09/gdpr-sorting-the-fact-from-the-fiction/
11:11:33 From Hilary Gadsby : Issuing fines has always been and will continue to be, a last resort. Last year (2016/2017) we concluded 17,300 cases. I can tell you that 16 of them resulted in fines for the organisations concerned
11:11:37 From Marcia Philbrick : I’ve been reading the WordPress.com forum and there are quite a few posts where people are taking down their blogs. WordPress.com is working to make their service compliant. Blogger is also working to become compliant.
11:11:56 From jacquelinewilson : I am getting my re-verify notice from the bloggers themselves rather than mail chimp et
11:12:19 From Marcia Philbrick : Blog issues include ‘Cookies’, Comments (registering with an email address) and a privacy page (possibly more)
11:12:46 From Hilary Gadsby : I have seen from official ICO that resubscription is not necessary 11:13:06 From Melinda Culpon : Shouldn’t sites like Feedly have to send confirmation to blogs again? [NOTE: Feedly is cloud based, and you must go there to read the blog posts you’ve added to your Feedly list.]
11:13:55 From Molly : It is any website. Our church shares links to Facebook and Youtube. Those things have cookies on your site.
11:13:59 From June Butka : I may need to rethink my blog. I wasn’t aware of this.
11:14:14 From Marcia Philbrick : John Laws’ comment about privacy and birth makes me wonder about RootsMagic websites. I have a RootsMagic site but haven’t investigated this yet.
11:14:57 From Marcia Philbrick : My blog post about my blog and GDPR – http://heartlandgenealogy.blogspot.com/2018/05/challenge-of-gdpr.html
11:17:25 From Randy Seaver : the bottom line is that all Internet users/content providers may be at the mercy of the folks who want the right “to be unknown.” Arggghhhh. Stupidity IMHO.
11:17:27 From Marcia Philbrick : One of my major concerns is how to advise our local historical society. They have members and research requests from Europe.
11:18:27 From Molly : It is mostly you must assure your readers that you are not a threat to them. Make your policies and privacy totally open and truthful, with ablility for the ready to op-out of your site’s collection of informaton.
11:19:22 From Marian Koalski : Actually, these protections are what US residents should want for themselves. Don’t you mind when your contact info gets sold or given to some other party? If first happened to me with an email prayer list from church.
11:21:15 From Randy Seaver : My hope is that Blogger and Feedburner and Feedly, as content providers, will provide a means to deal with GDPR, similar to what Marcia put on her blog.
11:21:43 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : zoom handles the subscriptions they have the data; therefore they are responsible for compliance.
11:21:46 From Randy Seaver : Frankly, this is restriction of freedom of speech – the First Amendment in the USA.
11:22:05 From Cousin Russ : https://www.legalgenealogist.com/privacy-policy/
11:23:59 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : whomever controls the data is to be compliance
11:24:01 From Molly : I would put up a privacy statement anyway to be sure.
11:24:28 From Marcia Philbrick : WordPress (and probably Blogger) is working on tools for users that will help keep the blogs compliant. One tool WordPress is working on is the ability to remove user info.
11:26:49 From Marcia Philbrick : Google Analytics and other tools collect user info to generate site statistics. These are probably impacted by GDPR.
11:26:56 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : blogs are a website
11:27:10 From Molly : If you can access it on the www it is a website.
11:27:42 From dcarlile : It doesn’t matter if it is a website or blog, you cannot collect the info without their permission and only for uses they approve. Our society email newsletter applies.
11:28:07 From Randy Seaver : so what information on a genealogy blog wouild violate the privacy protections that GDPR supposedly will enforce?
11:28:49 From Cousin Russ : WP GDPR https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-gdpr-compliance/
11:29:15 From Bill West : Oy, I’m getting a headache trying to figure out how this will effect me.
11:29:34 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : the “data collector” is the one responsible for compliance
11:29:46 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Is it correct to say that if someone from the EU visits my blog to read, but not comment or sign up for email posts, then as a blogger I haven’t anything to worry about the GDPR?
11:29:51 From dcarlile : If their name is in the comments on the blog, it shows u pon our blogsite for everyone to see.
11:30:55 From jacquelinewilson : Russ, do you have access to the email addy? If you do, then it applies – based on my reading on the subject.
11:30:58 From Molly : Some of the hosting sites are trying to make their hosting compliant also. I got an email from mine that they are working on solutions also.
11:31:07 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : google analytics would be the data collector
11:31:20 From Marcia Philbrick : The commenting feature is the one that I’m most concerned about right now since I require users to give me their name and email address to comment.
11:32:09 From Robbin Smith to All panelists : yes that would be you being the data collector
11:32:59 From Randy Seaver : so we could stop posting comments to avoid a potential violation
11:34:33 From SMurphy : It is so sad that we are discussing this and there are people that want to do harm to others….so will we see the info on the posters making comments on my blog the way they see it?
11:34:54 From Robbin Smith : You can’t collect and store any personal data without having obtained, and being able to document that you obtained, consent from the persons you’re collecting data from. You can, however, collect and store personal data in your server logs for the limited and legitimate purpose of detecting and preventing fraud and unauthorized system access, and ensuring the security of your systems.
11:35:21 From Molly : I have considered stopping any comments. That would be the only way that I collect emails.
11:35:35 From Randy Seaver : Would a potential violation on my blog would be mentioning a living European person? Or having access to a living European person’s birthdate or address or email and publishing it?
11:36:19 From dcarlile : Cookies track where else you go on the interent and send that info back to teh website.
11:36:21 From Robbin Smith : saving cookies generally allows you to ease of re_accessing the site
11:37:07 From Marian Koalski : Randy — excellent question!
11:37:14 From SMurphy : Good question Randy!
11:37:31 From Marian Koalski : Call me 007.
11:37:35 From Debra : Has the US agreed to this, as it covers Us cititzens and our laws. [ NOTE: This is a European Union directive.]
11:38:48 From Molly : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation
11:39:53 From dcarlile : It applies to EU citizens regardless of where the information is stored in the world. If you have EU customers than you have to comly with the law. If you only have US cutomers, it does not apply to you, until EU person signs up for something, buys something from you, etc. As I understand the law.
11:40:01 From Marcia Philbrick : EU GDPR portal – https://www.eugdrp.org
11:40:16 From Randy Seaver : Is information about dead people in a blogp ost or an online tree subject to GDPR? Do dead people have rights in Europe? They don’t in the USA.
11:41:05 From Randy Seaver : If I have a living person in my private RootsMagic tree or private Ancestry tree, am I subject to GDPR?
11:41:07 From Molly : If we can provide proof of privacy policies we should be fairly safe.
11:41:37 From Cousin Russ : Welcome to gdpr-info.eu. Here you can find the official PDF of the Regulation (EU) 2016/679 (General Data Protection Regulation) as a neatly arranged website. All Articles of the GDPR are linked with suitable recitals. http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32016R0679
11:42:06 From Debra : Seems like it would be part of the International Trade Laws and how each country interacts or agrees to participate in such agreements. Seems like a real invasion trying to over rule people in other countries.
11:42:30 From Randy Seaver : There are many online genealogy databases that have info about living persons. Will those be removed by Ancestry, FamilySearch, MyHeritage, FMP, etc?
11:43:13 From Randy Seaver : Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
11:43:49 From dcarlile : People can opt-in – agree to sign up, what you use, etc. I have been receiving these emails all week requiring me to say yes, I want to continue receiving whatever it is.
11:44:23 From Hilary Gadsby : WikiTree is making anyone who may be living unlisted in order to ensure they comply. Unless that person is a registered member.
11:44:57 From Molly : It has to be people in the European Union who access your site. Not US citizens.
11:45:19 From Marcia Philbrick : yDNA surname projects are being affected by GDPR. Based on the project I participate in, FTDNA is moving the projects. There is a new setting on the sharing and privacy part of my account that affects the sharing of my DNA data with the project. I had to go in and ‘opt in’ to continue sharing my DNA data with the project.
11:45:55 From Bill West : What about obituraries that list names of survivors?i
11:45:58 From jacquelinewilson : Doesn’t SSA chains & applications redact info on living people?
11:46:21 From dcarlile : These are all United States records which do not fall under the GDPR. [NOTE: GDPR affects any website that presents information.]
11:47:01 From Yvonne Demoskoff : I just received an email from Virtual Genealogical Society letting me know that I need to confirm that I’d like to receive content from them. But I live in Canada
11:47:10 From Randy Seaver : what about EU citizens who reside in the USA? Or Canada, or wherever?
11:48:04 From Hilary Gadsby : We should be careful with information we hold for living and recently deceased persons wherever they live.
11:48:17 From Randy Seaver : Will newspapers and TV stations not be able to mention the names of criminals or witness names?
11:49:53 From Cousin Russ : THE Genealogy Show https://www.facebook.com/THEGenShow2019/posts/792012904329992 11:50:16 From Cousin Russ : Judy Russell, The Legal Genealogist https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/05/20/the-casualties-of-gdpr
After a break, Mondays with Myrt 18 June 2018 was soooo full of the latest genea-news, that it spilled over into WACKY Wednesday 20 June 2018. Our first segment features Blaine Bettinger discussing his newly unveiled DNA Central located at https://dna-central.com
We also discuss:
Resources for learning how to integrate DNA results into paper-trail research
NGS free access to most of FindMyPast record sets
German research track at #FGS2018
Map-based research logs
AniMap by Goldbug
Elizabeth Shown Mill’s notes
British & Irish Military Records Study Group
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Nordic
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum
Reclaim the Records – NYC Marriage Licenses
The Legal Genealogist’s What’s a Compilation Copyright?”
19:14:26 From LisaGorrell : Just signed up. Really excited to explore the site.
19:14:28 From Dave Robison : Blaine, you were the subject of a conversation yesterday at the Cape Cod Genealogical Society’s annual meeting. I only wish I knew about DNA-Central!!
19:14:49 From nana2 : What are the best web browsers to use to access DNA-Central? [We’ve tested the site using Chrome, Safari and Firefox.]
19:16:34 From Karen Trearchis : Congratulations Blaine Bettinger!
19:17:05 From Mary Roddy : OK, I signed up!
19:18:10 From Mary Roddy : Are you planning on anything regarding writing about using DNA? How it fits into the GPS, what we need to document?
19:18:31 From Nadine : Do you or will you cover how to organize this data from all of the matches? I am feeling overwhelmed and need tips on this.
19:19:06 From LisaGorrell : How do we put the data into a proof argument?
19:19:37 From Cousin Russ : Membership in DNA Central is $99/year or $9.99/month. Both membership levels give you all the benefits of DNA Central. To join during this beta launch, GGTT [Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques] members can use this link or the coupon code “GGTT” to get $10 off a yearly membership! https://www.facebook.com/groups/geneticgenealogytipsandtechniques/
19:19:39 From Dave Robison : I need all of these resources….I’m beginning to get many responses from my paternal side where I’ve asked everyone to test and compare notes.
19:20:17 From Melissa : I am excited to share this new site with my genealogy class on Tuesday!
19:22:10 From Karen Trearchis : I already began the Myheritage course.
Regarding SPAM EMAIL
19:26:54 From jacquelinewilson : I also put mine in spam and send an email to the person and say that they may have been hacked.
19:26:56 From Karen Trearchis : In a Mac you drag into Junk mail and then go to junk folder and then click a dropdown menu that says erase junk mail.
19:27:37 From Louis : I use Windows Defender which is free and comes with Windows 10 and I’ve never had a virus.
19:28:45 From Karen Trearchis : For my Mac, I use Malwarebytes Anti Malware. You use this when you think you have a problem or want to see if you do have a problem. However, always is ok.
19:29:45 From Karen Trearchis : I will check .
19:30:06 From jacquelinewilson : I am on a MAC and use Avast.
19:30:10 From Louis : Yes, it’s me, Louis Kessler.
19:30:13 From nana2 : For my HP laptop, I use McAfee, which came with it.
19:30:29 From Karen Trearchis : Yes, https://www.malwarebytes.com
19:31:18 From Karen Trearchis : It used to be free and the address was .org
19:31:57 From nana2 : I have two email addresses. One is with Wyoming.com and the other is Gmail. They both have the option to send things to Junk.
19:32:06 From Karen Trearchis : The Mac technicians use Malwarebytes, too.
19:32:23 From Karen Trearchis : At apple.com
19:33:13 From Cousin Russ : https://www.mcafee.com
19:33:19 From Cousin Russ : https://www.avast.com
19:33:49 From nana2 : I just want to say that I’m so happy we are all back together tonight. 🙂
19:34:25 From Jeanne Mower : you mentioned all are the same, but can you talk about fake ones
19:35:02 From nana2 : With GEDmatch, you can make an exclusive email address for people to contact you for chatting about your matches.
19:35:24 From jacquelinewilson : My question is do you need both a virus protection and malware protection?
19:35:54 From Karen Trearchis : For Mac people google David A. Cox, he owns his own business at the Cape, he suggested this product. He hasfree youtube classes on Macs.
19:37:12 From Karen Trearchis : Macs has a firewall, too.
19:37:44 From Dustin The NGS [National Genealogical Society] Quarterly is worth the membership alone! http://www.ngsgenealogy.org
19:38:33 From Cousin Russ : REGISTER TODAY – S.L.I.G. *VIRTUAL* . Nordic . Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum (Both AM & PM sessions filled the first day!) More info at http://www.slig.ugagenealogy.org #SLIGVirtual #SLIG
19:38:54 From Mary Roddy : NGS also offers a FREE subscription to FindMYPast. It is not the full subscription, but is has a lot of material. Here’s the link. https://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/findmypast
19:40:58 From Cousin Russ : German track at FGS http://voice.fgs.org/2018/06/german-research-track-at-fgs-2018.html #genealogy
19:42:54 From Dustin : I have done full track’s for one day of conference. I did a whole day of BCG courses.
19:43:00 From Cousin Russ : Reclaim the Records: Index to New York City Marriage Licenses, 1996-2017 https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/11/
19:43:03 From Mary Roddy to All panelists : YES! They have done so much good stuff. NY Death indexes from late 1800s thru mid-1900s I think
19:44:32 From Cousin Russ : Map Based Research Log http://genealogytipoftheday.com/index.php/2018/06/03/a-map-based-research-log
19:44:59 From Dustin to All panelists : I keep maps for all the areas I need to research for my next Kentucky research trip
19:45:54 From jacquelinewilson : I am creating such a map for my current research in Missouri. Multiple boundary changes during the time period I am researching.
19:46:05 From Mary Roddy: I use this site all the time to see county maps for each state. It really helps to understand the geography. https://geology.com/county-map/nebraska.shtml
19:46:49 From Deb : In northwest Alabama you have to know when Marion, Winton, Lawrence, and Franklin redivided. Haleyville is in Winston and Marion counties.
19:49:47 From Deb: AniMaps is cool, it shows the counties by the date.
19:59:07 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s 54 page report on this project is found here: Elizabeth Shown Mills,“Samuel Witter (1787–1876) & Wife Rachel “Lizzie” Smith (ca. 1802–1854: Research Notes,” A Working File Updated 5 December 2013; archived online at E. S. Mills, Historic Pathways (www.HistoricPathways.com : 20 June 2018).
19:59:53 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s talk was reviewed by Yvette Hoitink, CG on the BCG website here: https://bcgcertification.org/skillbuilding-ngs-2018-9/
20:02:31 From Cousin Russ : 2018 NGS Conference Playback (video & audio) 2018 Samuel Witter vs. Samuel Witter: Separating Same-Name Soldiers, War of 1812 by Elizabeth Shown Mills “Presenter(s): Elizabeth Shown Mills CG, CGL, FASG, FNGS, FUGA Session#: 7780-F311 Session Length: 60 Minutes Program: NGS 2018 Family History Conference Date: May 4, 2018 $14 for http://www.playbackngs.com/7780-f311
20:02:41 From jacquelinewilson : I was able to hear that talk via live stream!
20:03:39 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:03:48 From Cousin Russ : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:04:23 From jacquelinewilson : That is true will all of her talks! I have been lucky to see her several times in the past!!!!!
20:05:15 From Cousin Russ : What’s a COMPILATION COPYRIGHT? Judy G. Russell explains it succinctly. https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/06/12/about-that-copyright-notice
Family Tree LIVE in April 2019 in London at the Alexandra Palace
Randy Seaver’s mother’s high school records
The Ancestry search problem announcement
The 23andMe vs. Ancestry lawsuit
Thomas Jones 150 years of probate and and Elizabeth Shown Mills 20104 soldiers in the same unit – to identify men with the same name
Desktop family tree software vs. online trees
Prioritizing which genealogy conference, show, institute or classes to attend
00:56:19 Bill West: Goood morning from not quite sunny southeastern Massachusetts!
00:57:01 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
01:10:39 Jacqueline Wilson: I just signed up for that!
01:10:47 Cousin Russ: https://virtualgensoc.com/
01:11:01 Randy Seaver: I joined too
01:11:54 Yvonne Demoskoff: I joined too, Randy; looking forward to it.
01:12:18 Cousin Russ: http://www.thegenealogyshow.uk/
01:12:33 Randy Seaver: I think I read that VGS webinars would be available to members for 6 months after the live talk.
01:13:50 Dave Robison: I would like to suggest that any purchases made at Amazon, use the URL http://www.smile.amazon.com. You’ll still sign into your own account but a small % of every purchase will be given to the charity of your choice.
01:15:29 Cousin Russ: https://www.family-tree.co.uk/news-and-views/new-uk-family-history-show-family-tree-live
01:17:04 Randy Seaver: so we all could have a two month visit to the UK and go to both of them. Maybe someone could sponsor a genealogy cruise in between the two conferences.
01:17:52 Liv Christensen: I hope to go with a group of Norwegian genealogists.
01:18:31 Cousin Russ: Betty Carringer’s School Recordshttps://www.geneamusings.com/2018/05/treasure-chest-tuesday-betty-carringers.html
01:18:56 Hilary Gadsby: Would be great to meet you again Liv
01:19:04 Melinda Culpon: Trying to get my Brummie friend to meet me in Birmingham next year.
01:19:45 Hilary Gadsby: That would be great Melinda
01:19:49 Dave Robison: The Museum of Springfield History and Archives has a massive collection of school records from all Springfield, Mass schools from about 1895 to 1940.
01:23:05 Pat Kuhn: had Latin 1 year, hated it!!!
01:23:48 Hilary Gadsby: I have some of my mother’s reports
01:24:21 Jacqueline Wilson: Random acts of kindness!
01:24:26 Pat Kuhn: I have one for my mother and one for my father
01:25:17 Randy Seaver: https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/05/ancestrycom-says-they-will-work-on.html
01:27:42 Yvonne Demoskoff: One of the issues I’ve had lately with Ancestry is when I search for someone I get very few (say only a dozen or so) results. I used to get 100s before this problem came up.
01:29:39 Yvonne Demoskoff: And the results or matches aren’t any more relevant than they used to be.
01:31:31 Molly McKinley: Great advice.
01:32:52 Jacqueline Wilson: The book [ProfGen: PPS] is out of stock & will be available on May 16! It sold out!!!!!
01:36:02 Robbin Smith: Mine is being delivered today
01:38:52 Robbin Smith: I dislike those kinds of “photos” too
01:42:44 Shelley Murphy: yes
01:43:17 Shelley Murphy: I believe it’s a very valid point
01:43:24 Robbin Smith: ok by me
Forensic Genealogist CeCe Moore partnered with a company to work with law enforcement.
01:43:45 Shelley Murphy: CeCe opened another company
01:43:54 Karen Trearchis: I think it was a good use to the database. I am glad they caught the man.
01:45:15 Rebecca Williams: My opinion: If you put your information on an open public website, then you shouldn’t be upset. Law enforcement has used DNA since around 1988.
01:45:36 Shelley Murphy: she posted on Facebook about it
01:46:33 Robbin Smith: I agree with Rebecca
01:46:52 Robbin Smith: i would object if they got the DNA match thru the private companies
01:47:01 Jacqueline Wilson: I am sooooo sorry to hear about your family member. Hoping for a quick recovery
01:47:32 Randy Seaver: Parabon – https://www.parabon-nanolabs.com/nanolabs/news-events/2018/05/parabon-snapshot-genetic-genealogy-dna-analysis-service.html
01:47:37 Jacqueline Wilson: Yeah for decluttering!!!
01:47:40 Linda Stufflebean: My son was born in CA in 1988 – yesterday I saw a story online that CA has taken DNA swabs from infants born there since 1983 and parents were told. I don’t ever remember hearing about it and the DNA is stored in a database.
01:47:54 Karen Trearchis: I am very sorry to learn about your family member.
01:54:35 Jacqueline Wilson: It was live-streamed, so I got to see it!
02:00:19 Jacqueline Wilson: Will Legacy talk to Ancestry? NOTE: Family Tree Maker and RootsMagic are the only programs that can perform a data/image sync between an Ancestry Member Tree and the desktop version of the software programs. Legacy can indicate hints for various websites.
02:00:43 Bill West: Being paranoid, I keep a RM database on my computer in case I lose internet access. And I keep online trees in case my hard drive goes kaput.
02:02:38 Randy Seaver: The most pertinent article I’ve written about having genealogy software vs. online trees is probably at https://www.geneamusings.com/2015/11/dear-randy-why-buy-genealogy-software.html
02:05:24 Randy Seaver: Jacqueline, Legacy Family Tree will be able to talk to your MyHeritage tree soon. Gilad’s webinar last week was excellent.
02:07:18 Hilary Gadsby: I have several programs on my PC but that is because I like different features from each of them. My main program does not sync with any online tree but does find hints if I want them.
Deciding to go to a genealogy class, conference or institute is based on the following factors, different for each individual.
Proximity to one’s residence
Time of year with regard to family and work requirements
Proximity to an ancestral place of research
RootsTech (go there at least once)
Institutes offer a week of instructor-led course study, frequently with homework,
02:14:08 Hilary Gadsby: I have decided not to go to RootsTech next year as I am expecting to meet up with many of them in the UK events. I may go in 2020 however. I am going to Guild conference as well next year as it is 40th anniversary and in an area where I can stay and do research.
02:14:40 Hilary Gadsby: By them I mean friends.
02:15:07 Melinda Culpon: In my opinion I think those of you who were “covering” the conference had a different experience than just attending RootsTech. But yes I am more of a student
02:16:28 Randy Seaver: My time balance also includes the life situations I have – my Linda has mobility and memory problems and it’s hard to find things for her to do. Parties at the conference now become a feature.
02:16:48 Hilary Gadsby: I have attended RootsTech twice and had similar experience although slightly busier this last time.
02:16:49 Yvonne Demoskoff: I went to my first NGS conference in 2013 because of the quality of speakers, in particular ESM and Thomas Jones.
02:18:50 Randy Seaver: When we went to NGS and FGS in past years, I tried to also visit genealogy repositories and ancestry places
02:19:13 Cathy Naborowski: RootsTech is just too big for me. I like the size of NGS. But everyone should do RootsTech at least once.
02:20:57 Jacqueline Wilson: Randy: Hostler?
02:23:16 Randy Seaver: Jackie – maybe. At the Inn, he managed the horses – watering, feeding, cooling, washing, hitching up, etc. At 15 years old. He ended up being a horse trader later inl ife.
02:23:44 Karen Trearchis: I attend NERGC, New England Regional Genealogical conference.every 2 years & have been going since 2005. I love the excitement, the vending hall, work at our society’s booth. attending workshops in the Vendor Hall & classes. I went to FGS Springfield, Ill. I attended the great classes for society building! Love it and attended classes and enjoyed visiting an area I never been before. I am going to attend FGS19 in Washington,DC. My son is now living in Alexandria, VA. I want to go to the National Archives, too. So far I have not been able to go to Rootstech because of the expense, from the east coast, hotels,food. Maybe someday.
02:24:18 Hilary Gadsby: We call them Ostler in England
02:25:04 Randy Seaver: Hilary: I didn’t know that! Some of my Vaux relatives in Somerset married Ostler.
02:26:20 Jacqueline Wilson: I sometimes pick the conference I go to by location – if it is someplace I have never been before – just so I can play tourist.
02:26:44 Cousin Russ: The conversation continues — https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/7h4UxuPC1Wk
02:26:45 Hilary Gadsby: My husband has an Ostler in Norwich.
02:27:54 Jacqueline Wilson: Thank you for doing this!!!!!