Participate in an unscripted, open discussion in which we consider WHAT are our personal rules for genealogy databases?
DOCUMENTATION – direct, indirect, authored work?
GPS – Genealogical Proof Standards
ONLINE TREES – Private or public (if 90% sure of relationships)
CITATIONS – DearMYRTLE’s “Ragu method” (it’s in there), cite first
ANALYSIS – is helped when we transcribe and cite well
DESKTOP SOFTWARE permits multiple databases
BACKUP – cloud, offsite, external hard drive
COMPARING ONLINE TREES – Ancestry, FindMyPast, MyHeritage, FamilySearch
19:01:47 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:02:16 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello Everyone
19:02:58 From Melissa Barker : Hello Deb, hope you are fully recovered!
19:03:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : My son once said he wanted a garage full of antique cars, you know those older than 1960. I and the other lady in the car at the time were both born before 1960.
19:05:41 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Old Alabama Family Photos
19:06:03 From Marian Koalski : Vegas?
19:06:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think any car older than 20 years is considered an antique
19:09:05 From Marian Koalski : I put possibles into my database with a first name of “maybe”
19:09:32 From Marian Koalski : That way I can see them as I research
19:09:55 From Marian Koalski : And I attach whatever sources I have to them
19:10:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : I put in the various larger databases I have received as well as the various family history books I have received as one of my sources. I then note if I had proved it wrong.
19:11:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : Some of these records are what others have used to start their research
19:14:51 From Marian Koalski : I don’t generally put “possibles” into online trees. That’s work, and I don’t invest that effort until I’ve figured things out more definitely.
19:15:34 From Betty-Lu Burton : Find them in all the censuses that they should be in, both Federal and State
19:17:51 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ.
19:21:14 From Marian Koalski : Yes, and sometimes I find an index entry for a name that begins with M on the page for C-names. Someone entered it but didn’t notice that he was working on the wrong page.
19:24:47 From Marian Koalski : You’re right, Russ, but this is in my Reunion database, which looks for a name anywhere in a name.
19:25:28 From Marian Koalski : Mine will read something like “maybe Richard Higbee”
19:26:09 From Marian Koalski : I do the ___ for names that I don’t know
19:28:49 From Marian Koalski : I don’t have a mike.
19:29:13 From Marian Koalski : Maybe my difference from Russ is that I don’t do automated searches.
19:34:02 From Marian Koalski : me
19:43:47 From Cousin Russ : FAMILY HISTORIAN 6 https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
19:43:48 From Cousin Russ : .
19:46:49 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I use One Drive for backups as well as an 8T external hard drive.
19:50:26 From Launa Droescher : I use to rotate Tape, then Zip backups. Some day I’m going to delete old backups
19:53:33 From Launa Droescher : that was tape in 1990s and a few years later zip
19:54:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : I know this is not correct, but it helps me to think of the cloud as the internet
19:56:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : because I have to use the internet to get to the cloud
19:56:44 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : When I backup my family file I direct the backup to One Drive, therefore not a copy. A copy of that backup then gets put onto my external hard drive.
20:09:58 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I hate to admit this but I didn’t know where my brother was buried. Yesterday I got a hint from MyHeritage showing me he’s buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Quite a find and surprise.
Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)
Panelists have submitted homework with examples from their own research that correlate to Dr. Jones’ points in Chapter 5. The scanned image of their homework, with Ol’ Myrt’s notations is GenDoc_Chapter5scan.pdf – Google Drive http://bit.ly/2xyv2nf
Sure you could watch the embedded live and archived vedeo presentation here and on DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel, but why not view and comment during the broadcast by going to http://hangouts.dearmyrtle.com/gendoc5.html
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NOTE: Due to copyright restrictions, participants may not post the questions from the book. Merely write about one part of the chapter that “speaks to you” and provide an example from your own research. When quoting Dr. Jones, merely incorporate a sentence or two in your homework. Thank-you.
Cousin Russ and I are gearing up for Wednesday morning’s GenDoc Study Group where we will go over the homework submitted by our panelists for “Chapter 1 The Purpose and Nature of Genealogical Documentation”. Our syllabus material is found in Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical Documentation. (1)
GenDoc STUDY GROUP (60 minutes) Wednesday, 13 Sept 2017 , Chapter 1 – “The Purpose and Nature of Genealogical Documentation” from Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical Documentation. The live broadcast begins as follows:
Noon Eastern US (New York)
11am Central US (Chicago)
10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City)
9am Pacific US (Los Angeles.
Sure you can watch the YouTube video embedded below, but why not go to http://hangouts.dearmyrtle.com/gendoc1.html to register.
You’ll then receive email confirmation and reminders with your personal link to view the video hangout. You may comment before and during the live event, and watch the archived version anytime.
You will note in the homework compilation linked above, Ol’ Myrt here has stripped out the individual syllabus references, added a uniform header and footer, and page numbers to facilitate our live discussion.
Those submitting homework have been advised “Due to copyright restrictions, participants may *not* post the questions from the book. Merely write about one part of the chapter that “speaks to you” and provide an example from your own research. When quoting Dr. Jones, merely incorporate a sentence or two in your homework, Thank-you.”
The following brave souls have volunteered to be panel participants for the upcoming GenDoc Study Group. Each will take Dr. Thomas W. Jones’ newest book, Mastering Genealogical Documentation, chapter by chapter and post examples from their own research to illustrate points that speak to them. Sessions will begin 13 Sept 2017 at Noon Eastern. Registration will be available shortly before at http://hangouts.DearMYRTLE.com
Marceline Beem“I have been researching my own family for 20 years, and have researched pro bono for several friends in the last 5 years. Most of my family is in the southeastern U.S., but I do have one line that goes to the Midwest and New England.”
Blaine Bettinger“I need to work on documentation! – I have been a genealogist for 25+ years, and a genealogical professional for 8+ years.”
Claudia Breland“… To get more out of the book, and practice with specific examples. I have the book and have been reading and studying – it’s enormously helpful in my work as a professional genealogist. – I first became interested in family history in 1974, when I was 20. I became a professional genealogist 8 years ago, and have been constantly learning and growing since then. I work with clients, I do genealogy presentations in Western Washington, and I have written books.”
Cary Bright“Started in 1997, as keeper of the last of the family ephemera for my father. Married into a Norman family and I am the only family historian. Love the research and learning to be a much better record keeper. GPS panel member 2015.”
Melinda Culpon“Continue learning. – Have been researching and trying to find more and correctly document information.”
Sheri Fenley“I am almost ready to go “on the clock” again with BCG and feel this will help me quite a bit. I consider myself a professional genealogist but want to become certified and then go for accreditation with ICAPGEN. Need just a bit more education mostly for self-confidence.”
Hilary Gadsby“Want to reflect the subject from the point of view of someone who is using largely sources in the UK. To illustrate that this book is relevant wherever you are carrying out your research. – I have been researching for about 17 years. When I started very little was on the internet. Research consisted of speaking to relatives and following up leads with ordering documents and visiting archives and libraries. I am an amateur who has learnt from others by reading and sharing research strategies. I also recently started a one name study.”
Lisa Gorrell “Creating citations is fun! Being on the panel is rewarding and an honor. Been researching own family over 20 years. Taking clients the past two years. Working towards certification.”
Valerie Eichler Lair“I need to read and study the book. There’s no better way than to “finally” be on a panel. Plus, DearMYRTLE twisted both my arms behind my back! – I am a professional genealogist and have conducted research since 1989.”
Dave Robison“It’s a matter of continuous improvement and self-education. This interactive format is productive and one that I enjoy being a part of. – Beginning in the late 90s, I searched for answers to my family background never offered to me growing up. After making a surprising number of discoveries on my own, I began to assist a few friends and other family members in their own research.”
Mary Jane Saylor “Board member of the Utah Genealogical Association. Served on the SLIG committee as assistant registrar and marketing coordinator. Attend most institutes and conferences, been researching for 30+ years.”
We have more than 10 panelists to allow for absences. Viewers may complete homework assignments, though priority will be given to discussion of panel participant’s submissions.
Please reference the syllabus and include your name at the top of each homework assignment. Post homework in a blog or public Google Doc and post the link in the hangout for the appropriate chapter’s study group session. Also take care to observe the book’s copyright restrictions.