Carol Kostakos Petranek is a frequent traveler to Greece. Carol serves as co-director of the Washington, DC Family History Center (in Kensington, Maryland). She also serves as a Citizen Archivist at the National Archives (US) and in the FamilySearch digitization project at the Maryland State Archives
01:41:39 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Wiki: Greece – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Greece_Genealogy
01:42:34 Randi Patrick: Will we have access to this chat after the lecture?
01:43:30 Cousin Russ: The Chat will be posted on Myrt’s Blog when this Webinar is posted
01:43:51 Randi Patrick: OK. Thank you.
01:43:57 DearMYRTLE: The account at FamilySearch is FREE.
01:57:18 Patty Markos: Carol, you happen to be a cousin somehow. Lol You recently sent a request to my brother. You’re amazing, btw! 🙂
01:58:50 Cousin Russ: Hellenic Genealogy Geek Facebook Page — https://www.facebook.com/groups/118224528189671/
02:00:59 Cousin Russ: Don – Both websites have details on how to do download & upload raw DNA data and your GEDcom file of genealogy data. There are a number of FB DNA Groups.
02:08:04 Karen Trearchis: I have a baptismal record like this for my Dad.
02:35:13 Randi Patrick: Thank you, Carol for your presentation. It was very informative. It not only helped with Greek research but other ethnicities as well.
02:36:10 Panagiotis Papoulidis: Wonderful session Carol….thank you so much!
02:36:27 Suzanne Adams: This was wonderful Carol. Thank you! Excited to hear more about records in Greece next time! 🙂
02:36:31 athnamayporter: My village is now located in Albania since 1955 or so.
02:36:59 Patty Markos: Thank you so much Carol. I’ve already received family records for my father and mother using your GAK link from you blog. Amazing!
02:37:07 Karen Trearchis: Thanks Carol, this webinar was wonderful! Pat, we will adopt you!
02:37:09 athnamayporter: Any help would be so very helpful.
02:37:31 stacey Spanos: thank you, wonderful will be back
02:38:53 Karen Trearchis: someone just mentioned a village in albania, my Papou grew up in Hochiste, Albania
02:40:05 athnamayporter: In Albania, my village is in Sopiki
02:40:13 Cousin Russ: Our conversation will continue here — https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/QSdZqomNxRd
02:40:44 Karen Trearchis: I think the village was near Korce.
02:41:25 Jackie Wilson: Thank you for doing this!!!!!
02:41:43 athnamayporter: Sopike is in the mountains. near the boarder of Greece.
THANK-YOU to our special guest, Geoff Rasmussen for showing Ol’ Myrt the Google backup process.
00:41:44 Pat Kuhn: hi everyone
00:41:59 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good good morning Myrt and Russ
00:42:03 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hello To All!
00:42:04 Dave Robison: I missed last week, too!
00:42:07 Hilary Gadsby: I have a follow up to something I mentioned on the webinar with Tony last week
00:42:24 Robbin Smith: hello from miami
00:42:50 Bill West: Good afternoon from sunny, chilly Massachusetts.
00:44:53 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
00:45:04 Teri Chaffin: good morning
00:45:56 Melissa Barker: Hello, a little late, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is here!
00:46:05 Cousin Russ: Geoff Rasmussen to discuss Google Backup (a manual procedure) https://takeout.google.com
00:46:39 John Laws: Tnknk you Sir
00:50:45 Valerie Lisk: I’m always watching the Legacy family tree webinars. This is weird to actually watch Geoff speaking.
00:54:29 Sheryl Whisenhunt: First time hearing about it.
00:54:34 Robbin Smith: new to me
00:54:37 Susan Bleimehl: Never knew about it.
00:54:53 Geoff Mulholland: First I have heard of it
00:55:19 Danine Cozzens: New to me, and I use a lot of Google products to keep an eye on my son’s employer.
00:55:27 Valerie Lisk: First I’ve heard ot it. Thanks for the link Russ, I’m going to watch that webinar.
00:58:03 Marian Koalski: I enjoyed hearing Dave Robison speak at the New England Family History Conference over the weekend. He is a busy man!
01:08:29 Cousin Russ: Randy Seaver’s BEST OF THE GENEA-BLOGS https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/best-of-genea-blogs-1-to-7-april-2018.html
01:08:36 Cousin Russ: .
01:08:42 Hilary Gadsby: We have some restrictions but I am not sure what they are. The most recent records do not have an index widely available.
01:10:05 Joanne Shackford Parkes: On Monday, I look forward Randy’s updates to Ancestry & FamilySearch lists along with the Best of Blogs list!
01:10:27 Cousin Russ: Judy Russell CHASING THE SS-5 http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/02/chasing-the-ss-5/
01:12:56 Dave Robison: Thanks for the mention, Marian! IT was a very busy weekend…
01:18:17 Janine Edmée Hakim: Russ, what has been your experience finding records in Ancestry for countries that are not specifically mentioned (like Israel)…
01:23:00 DearMYRTLE: Ancestry LOST their wiki link
01:23:33 Randy Seaver: Micki – yes, I do. I mine Hints for one database using that technique
01:24:33 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Find it easiest to get to the Family Search wiki by googling FamilySearch wiki county state then ensuring I look for the latest update
01:25:53 Marian Koalski: The Red Book info is at search.ancestry.com
01:26:19 Randy Seaver: Micki – it takes time for Ancestry to find Hints for your tree people. I usually wait 6 months after a new collection to search the Hints for that database.
01:26:44 Dawn Carlile: It now only talks about the company on regular wikipedia.
01:27:17 Cousin Russ: Lorine McGinnis Schulze lost 8 generations of research. https://www.facebook.com/olivetreegenealogy/posts/10155612560197815
01:29:00 Dawn Carlile: The Redbook can still be found at http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:30:09 Dave Robison: I just tried the Redbook link and I get “Whitelabel Error Page
01:30:10 Betty-Lu Burton: I have noticed while reveiwing index records for FamilySearc indexing that some indexers will assume the female middle name is the maiden name and I have seen times when yes it is a maiden name but the maiden name of the female’s mother or grandmother
01:31:16 Marian Koalski: I have found family members 30 years after thinking that I had them all… in probate records that have recently come online.
01:31:42 Marian Koalski: I should say “found ADDITIONAL family members”
01:32:06 Betty-Lu Burton: Ihave a family in the 1800’s where all the children had the grandmother’s maiden name for a middle name
01:33:23 Cousin Russ: Dawn – thank you, but it isn’t linked to “the Wiki”
01:33:47 Bill West: Having to trim a branch off the family tree is almost as painful for me as deciding which books I need to cull from my bookcase.
01:34:18 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Have found a book that takes my ancestors back six more generations, very good quality but really want to find the author’s original source material (tough as it was written in 1912). Do have distant DNA matches to some folks who also document this line but am still on the hunt for these original documents that the author used to write the book.
01:34:26 Cousin Russ: http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:34:30 Dawn Carlile: The wiki is gone, just the Redbook works. If you search Wiki on Ancestry you only get a few articles, no wiki.
01:36:43 Randy Seaver: I’m still seeing Pat’s screen and not Russ’s comments
01:37:01 Doris Haskell: My first experience at the FHL was finding a book that had my paternal ancestors in a book about Lexington, MA records. The author did not itemize his sources, and this is still a source of a brick wall for me.
01:37:24 Janine Edmée Hakim: Thank you Cousin Russ, have sometimes found it difficult to find records for Indonesian relatives.
01:37:29 Randy Seaver: The latest blog post for Hints in a specific Ancestry database is https://www.geneamusings.com/2016/10/mining-ancestrycom-hints-by-specific.html
01:39:28 Betty-Lu Burton: I have found more information on my ancestors Italian towns in the French and Italian Wikipedia then in any of the English Wikis.
01:40:33 Dave Robison: The good news about the Red Book is that all I have to do to find it is look to myleft where it sits on a shelf!
01:42:28 Dave Robison: This Red Book is the Third Edition. I have no idea if that’s the latest.
01:42:33 Pat Kuhn: in my VanBilliard line there are two couples that have the same names and I keep finding trees that put children in the wrong family
01:44:56 Deb Andrew: I had a cousin who had to move his line over to a different ancestor. He thought my 2nd great grandfather was his great grandfather. Through extensive DNA testing it turns out that my 2nd great wasn’t but his brother was his great grandfather.
01:45:38 Randy Seaver: Amazon has Third Edition from 2004.
01:46:06 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Thanks for the tips – have a trip to Albany, NY in my future — this author actually also went to Haarlem, Holland so that’s also on my future dream trips!!
01:47:44 Randy Seaver: Hard cover Redbook on sale at Amazon is $40, only 10 left in stock. Kindle is $20
01:48:28 DearMYRTLE: regarding John Laws “You might find the original record BUT beware it may have original errors 1939 Register on FMP has my mother-in-law before her marriage has overwritten error and very misleading for a newbie.” FindMyPast 1939 Registerhttps://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records/1939-register
01:48:33 Rachel Evans: I have the same issue Pat. There are four generations of men named John Bennem in my tree. Not including collateral Johns. It’s difficult to keep track and even worse to try to get people to fix things.
01:48:41 Randy Seaver: every record MAY be wrong due to informant error or clerk error. Thankfully, most are correct.
01:58:27 Karen Trearchis: I am just joining your program today, so I hope this has not been stated today. I just learned to use BillionGraves [smart phone] app on Saturday. I had attended Family History Day in Franklin, MA. One of the speakers shared information on BillionGraves & taught us to use the app. We went to a local cemetery to practice & I am impressed. Once I practice I am going to see if other chapter members of MSOG want to work together in doing part or all of a cemetery. It was so fun!
01:58:54: Dave Robison: Karen Trearchis, that speaker was Brian Moncur who is the chief technology officer at Billion Graves
02:00:45 Karen Trearchis: Great idea Russ, we have Scout come to our chapter each year to earn their Merit Badge. One of the officers is also a Scout leader.
02:01:06 Randy Seaver: I really hate the ads now on FindAGrave. They slows down my work.
02:01:23 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Re the cemetery project – perhaps a local college has a GIS program and they would be willing to create a CAD drawing of the graveyard for you.
02:01:44 Karen Trearchis: What is GIS?
02:02:08 Marian Koalski: I think the same about FindaGrave, Myrt!
02:02:15 Yvonne Demoskoff: I sponsored my father’s memorial for a modest fee, which makes the ads disappear
02:02:35 Marian Koalski: It’s very hard to distinguish between data and advertising
02:04:25 Randy Seaver: I’m happy spring is here – I got two gravestone photos of 3rd great-grandparents stones on FindAGrave from a volunteer in Glocester RI.
02:06:22 Marian Koalski: Pat Kuehn, if you can email (or mail) me pieces of your project, I’ll be glad to do data entry for you.
02:08:00 Cousin Russ: Elizabeth Shown Mills weighs in onFormulating a research question. Why bother? https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/using-family-search-citation
02:09:05 Cousin Russ: Facebook just promised to offer its users around the world the same privacy controls required under a new European data protection law. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/technology/a-tough-task-for-facebook-european-type-privacy-for-all.html
02:09:16 Cousin Russ: Be sure to see Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 11,000+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list –
02:09:22 Bill West: My research plan is based on finding the next shiny thing. Not very organized, I know, but it’s fun. :0
02:09:31 Dave Robison: We had a good reminder lesson from Thomas Jones at the MGC conference this past weekend.
02:09:57 John Laws: alangodfreymaps.co.uk
02:09:58 Dave Robison: Don’t forget Gail Devers list for Canadian FB pages.
Chapter 2 “Language Terminology and important Issues” is our focus in this session. Attendees and panelists read the chapter in advance. Homework submitted by panelists concerns their personal take on concepts suggested by author Val Greenwood. Thank-you to moderators Melinda Culpon and Liberty Evanko for compiling homework submission and leading this discussion. Note this group meets monthly, usually on the 4th Wednesday of the month.
10:05:40 From Cousin Russ : Black’s Law Dictionary – 1st and 2nd Edition on CDhttp://www.genealogyblog.com/?p=30983 A Dictionary of Law Containing Definitions of the Terms and Phrases of American and English Jurisprudence, Ancient and Modern (First Edition, 1891 & Second Edition, 1910); by Henry Campbell Black, M.A.; 2485 pp; CD; Published: 1891 and 1910; Republished on CD: 2006; ISBN: 1933828080; Item # US0211
10:06:13 From Dawn Carlile : They took out a number of older terms to add new terminology for the 5th edition.
10:16:08 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Idem Sonans – Sounding the same or alike; having the same sound. A term applied to names which are spelled differently.
10:16:15 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : Name pairs have happened with our German ancestors living in Poland. Sometimes they would use their German surname and sometimes the equivalent surname in Polish. They mean the same thing but, are two different words.
10:17:05 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : I have 2 Hames brothers which 1 changed his spelling to Haymes. It didn’t cross my mind to check out the other spelling until I saw that these were in the same family.
10:17:07 From Valerie Lisk : I have 2 brothers who went by Robinson and the other 2 went by Robertson. Two different soundex codes.
10:17:21 From Lisa Gorrell : That paired names also happened in French Canada, too.
10:17:33 From Jackie Wilson : That just shows how important genealogy education is!
10:19:00 From Melinda Culpon : we have peveto, pivot, pevito cousins
10:19:02 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hey, Lisa: I’m French-Canadian. We might be related!
10:19:02 From Isabella Baltar to All panelists : The same happen to Portuguese families when they immigrated to US. Their names and surnames were adapted to English. Many of them are similar to the native language, but others totally different.
10:20:14 From Irene : It’s probably commmon but, with my McQueen’s from Scotland, all 4 brothers and 2 uncles changed the name to MacQueen once they reached NY in the 1890’s.
10:21:02 From Leah Smith to All panelists : I have French Canadian family who at different times used 3 different surnames – French surname, dit name, and Anglicized version of French surname. There were also variant spellings of the French surname.
10:27:35 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Was the name on that sheet, just now Ousley?
10:28:36 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Yea, part of the Owsley/Ousley lines.
10:29:19 From Kim Krautheim to All panelists : My maiden name is Daugherty, and they’re from eastern Tennessee. My Daugherty line has more folks that have married other Daugherty’s than any other line (marrying someone with the same surname.)
10:29:23 From Lisa Gorrell to Yvonne Demoskoff and all panelists : No. I have no French Canadian ancestors. I did some research for someone else.
10:33:05 From Cousin Russ : The Source: A Guidebook to American Genealogy – Szucs and Lubking [Note: integrated into Ancestry’s Wiki]https://www.ancestry.com/wiki/index.php/The_Source:_A_Guidebook_to_American_Genealogy
10:33:17 From Janet McNaughton to All panelists : When you transcribe do you use the letters as they appear or the modern spelling or both?
10:34:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Shows how closely connected the record keeping traditions are as I encounter the same problems with my English research.
10:35:06 From Lisa Gorrell : Some hyphens were = signs either on the first line or the second line before the rest of the word.
10:36:43 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : Kip Sperry’s book “Reading Old Handwriting” is excellent.
10:37:36 From Cousin Russ : Reading Early American Handwriting 1st Edition by Kip Sperry https://www.amazon.com/Reading-Early-American-Handwriting-Sperry/dp/080630846X
10:40:04 From Cousin Russ : FamilySearch Indexing –https://www.familysearch.org/indexing/
10:40:45 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : They have a backlog of 7.7 millions records. Needed!
10:41:04 From Maria Tegtmeier : Indexing is great Karma.
10:42:06 From Maria Tegtmeier : We watched a recent video that says only 30% of the records that Family Search has, has been indexed.
10:49:33 From Karen Jaszewski : Thank you everyone
10:50:04 From Pam Helm : Thank you Very informative
10:50:05 From Cary Bright : To me this chapter highlighted the tools needed in a genealogy tool box. Excellent way to highlight all the material. Great JOB to the panelists.
10:50:08 From Isabella Baltar : Thank you for this opportunity! Great.
10:50:58 From Teri Chaffin to All panelists : Love listening to all of you smart people — Thanks
10:51:07 From Jackie Wilson : I love the Source AND the authors!
10:52:43 From Cousin Russ : The conversation continues HERE – https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/BSLTdNsM3DT
AFTER PARTY COMMENTS It’s a party after Ol’ Myrt here stops the official recording. THANKS to Teri Chaffin for designing DearMYRTLE’s After Party graphic. Of course that’s sparkling apple cider in those flutes. 🙂
10:55:10 From Jackie Wilson : AmbushCAM = VLOG? LOL
10:55:15 From Hilary Gadsby : Ancestral Trails: The Complete Guide to British Genealogy and Family Historythis book costs over $50 new but is an excellent book that I use so this American Genealogy book is cheaper.
10:57:18 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank each of you for a good session once again.
10:57:21 From Irene : Thank you. Interesting information to go with the chapter.
11:01:12 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Hello – I was wondering the same thing about the wheelchair. The reason I didn’t make it to #rootstech is because I can’t walk for long enough. Can you rent wheelchairs? [NOTE: ” SCOOTER AND WHEELCHAIR RENTALS The Salt Palace Business Center offers both electric mobility scooters and manual wheelchairs to assist you while you are visiting our convention center. Our fleet is located on-site, with hourly, daily and event rates.” See https://www.visitsaltlake.com/salt-palace-convention-center/exhibit-meetings/business-center for phone and additional details.]
NEW #ROOTSTECH EXPO HALL HOURS
Wednesday 6pm to 9pm
Thursday 9:30am to 6pm
Friday 9:30am to 7pm
Saturday 9:30am to 4pm
11:01:25 From Jackie Wilson : Don’t they have a map of the vendor hall so you can map where you want to go? [ NOTE: Yes, this is the link to the Expo Hall with the map. https://www.rootstech.org/expo-hall The map is also downloadable.]
11:02:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Don’t forget to put the app on your phone
11:03:15 From Kim Krautheim : Got it, so just read Chapter 3 for next month.
11:03:18 From Kim Krautheim : THANKS!
11:04:31 From Maria Tegtmeier : They also have an app called Relatives at Rootstech
11:07:12 From Hilary Gadsby : You can use the Relatives at RootsTech when you get there https://www.familysearch.org/blog/en/relatives-rootstech/?cid=tp-rt-6564
11:07:42 From Liberty Evanko to All panelists : I can hear my kids fussing at eachother. Thanks for a great session. It was fun but I better go!
11:09:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Not yet available on Android
11:10:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I may be helping out on WikiTree not decided on a time yet
11:11:26 From Jackie Wilson : I guess I had better start blogging so I can get my own [GeneaBloggersTRIBE] beads!!!!
11:11:47 From Hilary Gadsby : I share my blog with family
11:12:30 From Hilary Gadsby : My cousins family were in Illinois
11:13:20 From Deb Andrew : I’m an Illinoisan.
11:14:10 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : It is very cool.
11:15:07 From Jackie Wilson : I live in Illinois – Chicago so if you need legs on the ground . . .
11:17:52 From Jackie Wilson : Hillary, Skype might work.
11:20:28 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Love you guys! Wish I had talked to you about #Rootstech.
Norwegian Genealogy 1 hangout with Liv Birgit Christensen, hosted by DearMYRTLE is now archived. Ol’ Myrt here particularly appreciated the census index correlated to previous census years. Every site we visited was open, requiring no membership fees to view the content. We also spent time discussing the Google Translate Chrome browser extention, and the Google Translate iOS app that assists travelers needing to understand menus and bus schedules.