ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt 4 Feb 2019

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In which we discuss MetaProxy, the fiasco with FTDNA changing it’s terms of service, Lucient Chart and other tools for mapping family relationships.

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  • 09:44:49 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Tony has updated MetaProxy so you can automatically get meta files created just been trying it.
    10:00:27 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I have just accepted a new post on WikiTree as a regional coordinator for South East England. I will say more when I know what I am doing. [CONGRATS, Hilary!]
    10:01:13 From Graham Walter : Hello everyone from London
    10:01:46 From Robbin Smith : Good Day from Miami
    10:02:00 From Michelle Minner : Morning from Tucson, Arizona
    10:02:10 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Good morning from cloudy Florida.
    10:02:49 From Linda Stufflebean : Hello from Tucson, AZ.
    10:03:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Has a ‘meeting’ with Darris Williams (Utah) on Saturday to discuss a meet up at RootsTech
    10:04:19 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Hello from South Louisiana.
    10:04:38 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Gary Gauthier here from “Oh so cold Calgary, Alberta -27C)
    10:05:05 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I’m not seeing he people on the big screen
    10:05:29 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Randy – you won’t
    10:05:35 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I have an unusual tale of tracing living relatives that folks might find amusing 🙂
    10:05:48 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Its a chicklet in the Webinar
    10:05:51 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : oh…why not?
    10:06:14 From Graham Walter : Hi Gary: 8 in London
    10:06:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good day everyone

    10:07:02 From Cousin Russ : https://westmagenealogy.com/
    10:07:20 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Hi Tony
    10:08:18 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Here’s some Canadian news: the 1926 Prairie Provinces census can now be browsed at FamilySearch (Gail Dever of Genealogy a la Carte announced it on her blog this morning)

    10:09:18 From Janine Edmée Hakim : One word guys….Instant Pot
    One Pot Meals
    10:11:29 From Cousin Russ : One Pot Meals for Busy Genealogists Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OnePotMeals4BusyGenealogists/
    10:11:57 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : My stomach is starting to rumble now …
    10:12:59 From Graham Walter : This is so cruel this close to meal time 🙂
    10:14:27 From Randy Seaver : when can we order these meals from MyrtDash or WendyDash?
    10:17:08 From Hilary Gadsby : I have the old style pressure cooker that I use.
    10:17:45 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Judy Russel link https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2019/02/01/opening-the-dna-floodgates/
    10:19:20 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Portable Soup- you can find almost anything on Wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_soup
    10:19:49 From Michelle Minner : I was angry, because they changed their terms of service with no notice!
    10:19:53 From Doris Haskell : Don’t they have to have a warrant? And isn’t it on a case-by-case basis?
    10:20:00 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Big brothers is always there…in today’s world with the internet we are just better at keeping up with the changes.
    10:20:04 From cyndy Bray : Don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not happy
    10:20:46 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : This is why I haven’t had my DNA tested. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
    10:20:47 From Shelley Murphy : I am angry about it. That is not what I signed up for.
    10:20:52 From John Laws to All panelists : like to join the panel
    10:21:20 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : If we OPT out now, does that take away the information that they already have?
    10:21:49 From John Laws : breach of contract?
    10:22:21 From Cousin Russ : John, you ARE on the Panel
    10:22:35 From Randy Seaver : all they have is the match data. FBI or LE isn’t getting anyone’s raw DNA. They are seeing matches like all of us see.
    10:22:44 From Michelle Minner : I totally agree, I don’t mind sharing my DNA (especially for law enforcement)…I don’t like not being asked…and not being told that they were going to open up the information.
    10:23:37 From John Laws : thank you sir
    10:23:55 From Randy Seaver : GEDmatch didn’t change their TOS until it was revealed that LE was using it after the Golden State Killer event.
    10:23:58 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I agree about the T&C being changed without notice. I’d be happy to share results with law enforcement, but can you guarantee that’s where it stops? There are people who do not agree as a matter of principle, but suppose that insurance companies got access
    10:24:26 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Hilary, I hope you’ll come to the Facebook group and share your expertise with pressure cooking. It’s intimidating for so many new users.
    10:24:27 From Hilary Gadsby : Even if they mentioned it previously they should have told everyone when this change was being made.
    10:25:23 From Michelle Minner : is user anyone at all? or is user a paid subscription? I need definitions to feel more comfortable
    10:25:30 From Hilary Gadsby to Wendy Gunderson and all panelists : I am in the facebook group so happy to share what I can.
    10:26:11 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : bushwhacked aka sidelined aka snookered aka backdoored
    10:26:25 From John Laws : makes you wonder who else gets to take a look perhaps russian security?
    10:27:51 From Marian Koalski : Maybe we should ask ourselves about all kinds of online services: “Are we letting someone else hold our wallet?” (Or other private or treasured asset?)
    10:29:42 From John Laws : I don’t see how the EU thing applies outside Europe we get out when we leave
    10:29:53 From Graham Walter : Clarity of communication is what is needed
    10:30:14 From Michelle Minner : I WAS surprised by an NPE, and I don’t want to share that DNA, by the request of the family member that doesn’t want anyone to know about the NPE involving her DNA test. However, I don’t like the company changing it without notice. I only opted out for that one DNA test.
    10:30:49 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think people do not understand that law enforcement must still do a lot of leg work. The DNA does not give them a definite match until after the detective work
    10:31:35 From Linda Stufflebean : I am not happy about ftDNA’s sneaky method, although I don’t mind them using my DNA to catch criminals either. On the other hand, given the adage that once something is online, we lose control of it fits here so it sadly isn’t all that surprising.
    10:32:12 From Randy Seaver : two sets of detective work – first to find descendants of a common ancestor, second to sort out the descendants to find the right person.
    10:33:48 From Graham Walter : Can you send some chicken over to London?
    10:34:47 From Cousin Russ : https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
    10:35:11 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Graham, maybe we can invent a new “portable” chicken app!
    10:35:15 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
    10:35:47 From Graham Walter : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
    10:36:08 From Cousin Russ : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
    10:36:18 From Cousin Russ : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
    10:36:27 From John Laws : I have a beef with FMP my membership of Ancestry shows up regardless whether I go on dot co uk or dot com but doesn’t work with FMP
    10:36:29 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Thank-you, Graham.
    10:36:43 From Hilary Gadsby : I am waiting for the records in Southampton, England to be online as my 2xgt grandparents married in the catholic church and their family were catholics.
    10:37:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Wendy: good idea!
    10:40:56 From John Laws : Not all registries or churches give permission to digitizing of their records and some churches haven’t released their records to the county record offices yet and still keep them in cold damp vestries
    10:42:22 From Robbin Smith : What irritates me is that *not* all the records from St. Peters on Staten Island have been added and of course that those are the records I need
    10:45:56 From Janine Edmée Hakim : the borough of Manhattan is New York County
    10:45:56 From Graham Walter : FindMyPast datasets for U.S. records https://search.findmypast.co.uk/historical-records?page=1&region=united%20states%20%26%20canada&searchedrecordsetname=
    10:46:35 From Cathy Naborowski : FMP has an agreement with these Archdiocese. Jen Baldwin did a great webinar – I think on FMP a whle back talking about the process they are going through.
    10:46:45 From Randy Seaver : My guess is that when Josh Taylor was with FMP he tried to contract digitizing the church records that FamilySearch doesn’t have.
    10:47:24 From Robbin Smith : I did send an email to FMP and they said they will be updated .. still waiting
    10:47:27 From John Laws : surprised just how many children are registered without the father’s name and the mother and child have the same surname since WWI. Of course we had always had illegitimacy
    10:47:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Fading away! Battery warning…. See you all next week…
    10:48:02 From Graham Walter : have a good day Dave
    10:48:28 From John Laws : they consider the records to be their personal records how dare you want to know anything
    10:48:40 From Hilary Gadsby : Not sure if catholics do transcripts in the UK
    10:49:36 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Pat, I’ve had some success walking into a church’s office and speaking with the secretary. I was able to view my grandfather’s baptism record (1889) in Quebec that way.
    10:50:56 From Randy Seaver : This is a great example of how “not everything is online.” There will never be “all records online.”
    10:50:57 From John Laws : maybe the mice had thanksgiving lunch on the records

    10:51:56 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Find My Past is a subscription site??
    10:52:08 From Randy Seaver : yes Shelby
    10:52:19 From Cousin Russ : FindMyPast Blog https://blog.findmypast.com/
    10:52:31 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Ok – have an account already registered, but it wants more $$
    10:52:40 From Graham Walter : Some of the pages launch your smartphone browser but if it’s you online tree it’s sync to phone
    10:53:03 From Randy Seaver : and FMP now accesses the FamilySearch Family Tree to help find common ancestors for DNA matches.
    10:55:13 From Graham Walter : You can also do Newspapers directly at British NEwspaper Archives https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/

    10:58:12 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry Search Engine Problems from my correspondent – link is https://www.geneamusings.com/2019/01/a-readers-take-on-ancestrycom-problems_30.html
    11:00:08 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : This is annoying to hear, but I’m glad I’m not going crazy.
    11:01:20 From Valerie Lisk : I liked the HeritageQuest search engine before Ancestry bought them. You could browse on the County level or you could browse by Institution.
    11:04:51 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit software is not the only way of solving this. That’s a little like a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
    11:07:24 From Cousin Russ : RootsMagic https://rootsmagic.com/

    11:10:13 From Cousin Russ : discussion of Tony Proctor’s MetaProxy program https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10161407529775374
    11:13:10 From John Laws : Thats pretty good eh!
    11:13:59 From Randy Seaver : love Tony’s fractal screen
    11:17:25 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : The Mac version of MetaProxy is progressing along the same lines.

    11:18:30 From Cousin Russ : https://www.lucidchart.com
    11:19:48 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Is this a web-based analog of Visio?
    11:20:01 From Graham Walter : Gary: yes
    11:20:33 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Try this – FREE with sign up https://online.visual-paradigm.com/features/flowchart-tool/
    11:20:42 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Thanks, Russ.
    11:20:54 From Graham Walter : It allows to import Visio files as well
    11:21:08 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Graham,. Thanks to you too.
    11:21:37 From Graham Walter : Pricing model = https://www.lucidchart.com/user/129854395#/subscriptionLevel
    11:21:45 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Dia is another similar generic drawing package for data relationship diagrams. The SVG designer is far simpler, and free, but Windows specific
    11:22:20 From Hilary Gadsby : My favourite for the UK is http://www.genuki.org.uk/
    11:23:09 From Graham Walter : Genuki – Definitely a good one!
    11:23:21 From Cousin Russ : One of my favorites for Florida interest – Florida Memory Project – http://www.floridamemory.com
    11:23:23 From Randy Seaver : Favorite go-to site for help — FamilySearch Research Wiki – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Main_Page
    11:23:42 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Have to depart for one of those pesky business meetings…cheers and happy day everyone!
    11:25:47 From Randy Seaver : Another is Randy’s Genesalogy Links – https://www.geneamusings.com/p/randys-genealogy-links.html
    11:27:22 From Marcia Philbrick : Map of U.S. –  shows changing county boundary lines over time (United States resource) – very helpful for research in area prior to statehood – https://www.mapofus.org/
    11:27:32 From Doris Haskell : I just stepped away because I got a FaceTime call from my baby boy, who is serving in the Middle East.
    11:27:35 From Graham Walter : also the go-to-website Cyndi’s List https://www.Cyndislist.com 
    11:30:44 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Can you put the New York Historical Society link for Will Abstracts in the chat.

  • 11:33:01: From Randy Seaver : Brenda – http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/n/nys//browse/author/n.html and scroll down to “New York Surrogates Court”
  • 11:31:30 From Valerie Lisk : For Michigan Death Certificates etc. http://seekingmichigan.org/discover/death-records-1897-1920 For Missouri Death Certificates https://s1.sos.mo.gov/records/archives/archivesmvc/deathcertificates/ To connect Missouri families using court cases https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases/nameSearch.do
    11:33:12 From Maria Tegtmeier : Favorite Polish websites http://poznan-project.psnc.pl/ and http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/ and BASIA _ Database of ARchival Indexing System basia.famula.pl
    11:33:35 From Doris Haskell : In PA, Richard has ancestors from Montgomery County.
    11:34:07 From Randy Seaver : Brenda – and scroll further to NY Historical society links

11:35:42 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Blog http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/blog/

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11:36:38 From Tony Proctor  : When Google+ goes, so will many of the Blogger comments (if you have a blogspot)
11:37:34 From Randy Seaver : Can we get on the panel that day at FHL?
11:40:34 From Randy Seaver : I never had many commenters from Google+ to my blog posts.
11:41:01 From Randy Seaver : extraordinary webinars…

11:44:18 From Cousin Russ : Download your Google+ data https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1045788?hl=en
11:44:28 From Hilary Gadsby : If we posted using our Google account that should still be active.
11:44:42 From Marcia Philbrick : https://blogger.googleblog.com/2019/01/an-update-on-google-and-blogger.html – says comments will no longer appear on blog
11:45:11 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : yay!
11:46:39 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : that will be fun
11:47:35 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZlX5znu6d7CCz6xobwMXOA
11:48:11 From Graham Walter : Farewell everyone!
11:48:14 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : thanks
11:49:05 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : How is your kitty cat doing?
11:49:42 From cyndy Bray : might be me not you
11:50:51 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:51:01 From Cousin Russ : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:55:28 From Mary Buchholz to All panelists : I definitely think there is interest in Tony’s software and it is something a person needs to heard more than once.


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ARCHIVED: WACKY Wednesday – FamilySearch Catalog

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We consider logical research patterns as one would transition from an Ancestry Member Tree to digital records on FamilySearch.org. Participate in an unscripted, open discussion hosted by DearMYRTLE’s very distant cousin Annie Oakmont.

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00:32:58 Deb Andrew: Good evening.

00:34:22 Marceline Beem: Hi everyone

00:34:58 Melissa Barker: Hello Everyone!

00:40:54 Betty-Lu Burton: It also shows the Cousin Russ is aware that FamilySearch and Ancestry have different records group

00:43:44 Betty-Lu Burton: You can also look in the 1871 and 1881 census. Both would show the family he was living with, place of birth and religion 00:51:50 Betty-Lu Burton: The Canadian Censuses has been indexed just like the USA Census Records.

Betty-Lu Burton: Unless he came with his parents, their name would not be listed on his border crossing record

01:02:25 Deb Andrew: Just don’t ask Siri if there are any airplanes over your location!

01:02:51 Betty-Lu Burton: Do you know when and where he was married? Marriage records might give you information on parents

01:06:40 Betty-Lu Burton: Have you considered that Herbert’s parents were not married and McAlister is his mother’s maiden name or McAlister is his father’s surname and Johnston his mother’s maiden name

01:11:03 Betty-Lu Burton: You might try looking for Herbert in the 1871 census to see if he is listed with his parents now or with another family. This might help decide if his parents may have been dead in 1861. It would also tell you if he is still with the same family

01:14:21 Betty-Lu Burton: Modern gun hunting starts Saturday here in Arkansas

01:19:16 Deb Andrew: You had the most interesting Fudge Pie Recipe.

01:21:21 Melissa Barker: Thanks Deb!

01:25:38 Betty-Lu Burton: Stamp number is the page in the book, the image number is where it is (the page) on the microfilm

01:27:53 Betty-Lu Burton: Could you have looked in the land records to find out when the land was sold for the probate and would not that give you a better idea of when the probate happened?

01:30:12 Deb Andrew: I put surname first followed by state, county and then date.

1:34:09 Deb Andrew: I had a grand uncle who had to register for World War I will he was at Wetumpka State Prison, in Alabama.

01:34:21 Betty-Lu Burton: The register of prisoners should also be in the catalogue listed as item 2 on the microfilm

01:36:09 Betty-Lu Burton: some of the microfilms can have several different items that are not related, but each one is listed in the catalogue with the item number. Or at least it was like this before everything was digitized.

01:38:02 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Catalog Film/Fiche Number Search https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:38:11 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Catalog Locality Subject Subdivisions https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:38:17 Cousin Russ: Deciphering FamilySearch Catalog Entries https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:38:28 Cousin Russ: Abbreviations in the FamilySearch Catalog – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:38:42 Cousin Russ: I didn’t know you could search like that by Debbie Gurtler https://www.familysearch.org/ask/lear…

01:38:49 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Catalog Call Number Search https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:38:55 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Catalog Film/Fiche Number Search https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/…

01:39:54 Susan Bleimehl: Thanks for all these links–I’m working with a couple of newbees and this will be extremely helpful for them.


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ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group “Chapter 6 Reference Works”

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11 July 2018 AmericaGen Study Group tackles “Chapter 6 – Reference Works” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.)
https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

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Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits. Combined AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 6 homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Ply1IPbDglkEOFigMi9bhaRvwaZRRlJ/view?usp=sharing

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10:04:17 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 6 homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Ply1IPbDglkEOFigMi9bhaRvwaZRRlJ/view?usp=sharing

The Best Punctuation Book, Period10:05:05 From Cousin Russ : The Best Punctuation Book, Period: A Comprehensive Guide for Every Writer, Editor, Student, and Businessperson https://www.amazon.com/Best-Punctuation-Book-Period-Businessperson-ebook/dp/B00G1J1QFM
Mastering Genealogical Documentation
10:06:26 From Cousin Russ : Mastering Genealogical Proof https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Genealogical-Proof-Thomas-Jones-ebook/dp/B00H48MNXS

10:07:56 From Cousin Russ : QuickSheet: Citing Ancestry Databases & Images Evidence Style 2nd Edition https://www.amazon.com/QuickSheet-Citing-Ancestry-Databases-Evidence/dp/0806320389

10:08:27 From Melinda Culpon : I travel with that quicksheet

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10:08:38 From Cousin Russ : Evidence Explained: History Sources from Artifacts to Cyberspace 3rd Edition Revised https://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Explained-History-Artifacts-Cyberspace/dp/0806320400
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10:09:24 From Cousin Russ : Welcome to the Purdue OWL https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/

10:11:37 From Cousin Russ : Genealogical Proof Standard: Building a Solid Case https://www.amazon.com/Genealogical-Proof-Standard-Christine-Rose/dp/0929626214

10:13:50 From Cousin Russ : SAMPLE from the Internet Archive – https://web.archive.org/web/20180415052612/https://www.evidenceexplained.com/
10:14:23 From Melinda Culpon : getting the books from library sites is what I did
10:15:03 From Melinda Culpon : Texas was a map from the glo – really fun
10:18:33 From Molly McKinley : I have Goldens from Madison County, Alabama
10:19:23 From Rebecca Williams : When going to a new area to research, you might be able to find a guide to the library’s genealogy collection online at LibGuides. https://community.libguides.com/
10:21:45 From Rebecca Williams : https://guides.hmcpl.org/c.php?g=790531&p=5656729 this link will take you to the Genealogy, History and Archives at Huntsville Madison County Public Library: Local and State History libGuide.

10:27:59 From Cousin Russ : FamilySearch Wiki http://www.FamilySearch.org then Search then Wiki
10:31:09 From Leah Smith : Locality guides- what a great idea!
10:32:14 From Cousin Russ : The SOURCE: https://www.amazon.com/Source-Guidebook-American-Genealogy-Third/dp/1593312776
10:34:31 From DearMYRTLE: Printed Sources: A Guide to Published Genealogical Records https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0916489701
10:35:39 From Cathy Naborowski to All panelists : I use Evernote for my locality guides. I have a template
10:35:56 From DearMYRTLE : WACKY WEDNESDAY
10:37:01 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 6 homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Ply1IPbDglkEOFigMi9bhaRvwaZRRlJ/view?usp=sharing
10:39:22 From Melinda Culpon : Can you find “ghost town” names with this?
10:44:17 From Danine Cozzens : Just found Red Dog in Nevada County CA
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10:47:23 From Cousin Russ : U.S. Board on Geographic Names https://geonames.usgs.gov

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10:48:33 From Cousin Russ : Cyndi’s List https://www.cyndislist.com/
10:49:00 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I use Evernote and have a section called Toolbox, that is divided into main website for those topics. I also have one for Genealogy Tips and Tricks, and then just Genealogy general.
10:51:57 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : In the tool box has one the localities.
10:52:27 From DearMYRTLE : Do you want to do this tonight on WACKY Wednesday?
10:52:49 From Roxanne Cummings Basey to All panelists : Could I ask why Evernote over Word?
10:52:52 From Cousin Russ : Sure
10:52:56 From Melinda Culpon : I use both – one note interface “thinks” like me
10:53:34 From Roxanne Cummings Basey to All panelists : Thank you
10:53:45 From Deb Andrew: Evernote can do the screen capture right into it and also syncs to the Ipad.
10:53:56 From Melinda Culpon : clipping feature both is my main
10:54:19 From Melinda Culpon : use for both programs
10:55:21 From Roxanne Cummings Basey to All panelists : Oh cool
10:55:25 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : I do the e-mail thing a lot.
10:55:49 From DearMYRTLE I’d use EXCEL but in Google Sheet form because of cloud technology. (Not dependent on this machine.)
10:57:47 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 6 homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Ply1IPbDglkEOFigMi9bhaRvwaZRRlJ/view?usp=sharing
10:58:54 From Danine Cozzens : Thanks everyone!
10:59:04 From Jo Ann Lawrence : Thank you for all the information. I learn sooo much. Thanks.

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Due to copyright restrictions, panel participants have been instructed to write about one part of the chapter that “speaks to” them. Examples are from their own research. When quoting the author, Val D. Greenwood, panelists will merely incorporate a sentence or two in their homework.

All panelists have viewed The Legal Genealogist Judy Russell’s interview with DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ located here: https://youtu.be/uFpET_NWFeU


 

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ARCHIVED: GreekGen Study Group 1- Original Surname and Village of Origin

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Carol Kostakos Petranek is a frequent traveler to Greece. Carol serves as co-director of the Washington, DC Family History Center (in Kensington, Maryland). She also serves as a Citizen Archivist at the National Archives (US) and in the FamilySearch digitization project at the Maryland State Archives

 

SELECTED COMMENTS

01:26:58 Cousin Russ: Link to GreekGen Study Group Google Sheet – http://bit.ly/DM_GreekGen
Spartan Roots Blog.

01:30:41 Cousin Russ: Carol’s Spartan Roots blog https://spartanroots.wordpress.com
01:33:26 Cousin Russ: Handout: Introduction to Greek Research https://www.dropbox.com/s/tkmdav69jerqxu7/Handout%201%20-%20Getting%20Started.pdf?dl=0
01:40:25 Cousin Russ: Handout: Using US Records to Prepare for Research in Greece — https://www.dropbox.com/s/1dxtkjxxzh9mifp/Handout%202%20-%20Using%20US%20Records%20to%20Prepare%20for%20Research%20in%20Greece.pdf?dl=0

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01:41:39 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch Wiki: Greece – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Greece_Genealogy
01:42:34 Randi Patrick: Will we have access to this chat after the lecture?
01:43:30 Cousin Russ: The Chat will be posted on Myrt’s Blog when this Webinar is posted
01:43:51 Randi Patrick: OK. Thank you.
01:43:57 DearMYRTLE: The account at FamilySearch is FREE.

01:57:18 Patty Markos: Carol, you happen to be a cousin somehow. Lol You recently sent a request to my brother. You’re amazing, btw! 🙂

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01:58:50 Cousin Russ: Hellenic Genealogy Geek Facebook Page — https://www.facebook.com/groups/118224528189671/
02:00:59 Cousin Russ: Don – Both websites have details on how to do download & upload raw DNA data and your GEDcom file of genealogy data. There are a number of FB DNA Groups.
02:08:04 Karen Trearchis: I have a baptismal record like this for my Dad.

02:35:13 Randi Patrick: Thank you, Carol for your presentation. It was very informative. It not only helped with Greek research but other ethnicities as well.
02:36:10 Panagiotis Papoulidis: Wonderful session Carol….thank you so much!
02:36:27 Suzanne Adams: This was wonderful Carol. Thank you! Excited to hear more about records in Greece next time! 🙂
02:36:31 athnamayporter: My village is now located in Albania since 1955 or so.
02:36:59 Patty Markos: Thank you so much Carol. I’ve already received family records for my father and mother using your GAK link from you blog. Amazing!
02:37:07 Karen Trearchis: Thanks Carol, this webinar was wonderful! Pat, we will adopt you!
02:37:09 athnamayporter: Any help would be so very helpful.
02:37:31 stacey Spanos: thank you, wonderful will be back
02:38:53 Karen Trearchis: someone just mentioned a village in albania, my Papou grew up in Hochiste, Albania
02:40:05 athnamayporter: In Albania, my village is in Sopiki
02:40:13 Cousin Russ: Our conversation will continue here — https://plus.google.com/u/0/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/QSdZqomNxRd
02:40:44 Karen Trearchis: I think the village was near Korce.
02:41:25 Jackie Wilson: Thank you for doing this!!!!!
02:41:43 athnamayporter: Sopike is in the mountains. near the boarder of Greece.


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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 9 Apr 2018

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THANK-YOU to our special guest, Geoff Rasmussen for showing Ol’ Myrt the Google backup process.

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SELECTED COMMENTS

00:41:44 Pat Kuhn: hi everyone
00:41:59 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good good morning Myrt and Russ
00:42:03 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hello To All!
00:42:04 Dave Robison: I missed last week, too!
00:42:07 Hilary Gadsby: I have a follow up to something I mentioned on the webinar with Tony last week
00:42:24 Robbin Smith: hello from miami
00:42:50 Bill West: Good afternoon from sunny, chilly Massachusetts.

Legacy 9 Census
00:44:01 Cousin Russ: Legacy 9 Unlocked (part 3): Adding a Census Record – free webinar by Geoff Rasmussen http://blog.geneawebinars.com/2018/04/legacy-9-unlocked-part-3-adding-census.html
00:44:23 Sheryl Whisenhunt: It was awesome Geoff. Really enjoyed it.
00:44:26 Marian Koalski: Thank goodness he DOES talk through it patiently!


00:44:53 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
00:45:04 Teri Chaffin: good morning
00:45:56 Melissa Barker: Hello, a little late, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is here!
00:46:05 Cousin Russ: Geoff Rasmussen to discuss Google Backup (a manual procedure) https://takeout.google.com
00:46:39 John Laws: Tnknk you Sir
00:50:45 Valerie Lisk: I’m always watching the Legacy family tree webinars. This is weird to actually watch Geoff speaking.
00:54:29 Sheryl Whisenhunt: First time hearing about it.
00:54:34 Robbin Smith: new to me
00:54:37 Susan Bleimehl: Never knew about it.
00:54:53 Geoff Mulholland: First I have heard of it
00:55:19 Danine Cozzens: New to me, and I use a lot of Google products to keep an eye on my son’s employer.
00:55:27 Valerie Lisk: First I’ve heard ot it. Thanks for the link Russ, I’m going to watch that webinar.
00:58:03 Marian Koalski: I enjoyed hearing Dave Robison speak at the New England Family History Conference over the weekend. He is a busy man!

[Regarding RPAC Records Preservation and Access]
00:58:08 Cousin Russ: MGC newsletter http://www.massgencouncil.org/2017/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MGC-Newsletter-Winter-2018.pdf
01:01:13 Melissa Barker: Tennesse is a “Sunshine” state which means all records are open to the public with a few exceptions like adoption records, medical records, etc.
01:02:06 Betty-Lu Burton: I can see limiting birth certificate since about 1990 when they started requiring SSN at birth. But Records 50 or more years is not going to affect peoples privacy
01:02:22 Anna Matthews: NYC is considering amending their decision thanks to all the people that have spoken out. There will be another hearing in two weeks. https://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/events/public-hearing-nyc-vital-records-access
01:02:35 Cousin Russ: RPAC for http://www.fgs.org/rpac/state-liaisons/state-liaisons-roster/ for all states
01:06:04 Betty-Lu Burton: Too many people have a misconception as to what is actually public and what is private.
01:07:26 Cousin Russ: This one might be interesting: http://www.massgencouncil.org/2017/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/access_to_records_in_massachusetts-1.pdf


01:08:29 Cousin Russ: Randy Seaver’s BEST OF THE GENEA-BLOGS https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/best-of-genea-blogs-1-to-7-april-2018.html
01:08:36 Cousin Russ: .
01:08:42 Hilary Gadsby: We have some restrictions but I am not sure what they are. The most recent records do not have an index widely available.
01:10:05 Joanne Shackford Parkes: On Monday, I look forward Randy’s updates to Ancestry & FamilySearch lists along with the Best of Blogs list!

01:10:27 Cousin Russ: Judy Russell CHASING THE SS-5 http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/02/chasing-the-ss-5/
01:12:56 Dave Robison: Thanks for the mention, Marian! IT was a very busy weekend…
01:18:17 Janine Edmée Hakim: Russ, what has been your experience finding records in Ancestry for countries that are not specifically mentioned (like Israel)…
01:23:00 DearMYRTLE: Ancestry LOST their wiki link
01:23:33 Randy Seaver: Micki – yes, I do. I mine Hints for one database using that technique
01:24:33 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Find it easiest to get to the Family Search wiki by googling FamilySearch wiki county state then ensuring I look for the latest update

01:25:53 Marian Koalski: The Red Book info is at search.ancestry.com
01:26:19 Randy Seaver: Micki – it takes time for Ancestry to find Hints for your tree people. I usually wait 6 months after a new collection to search the Hints for that database.
01:26:44 Dawn Carlile: It now only talks about the company on regular wikipedia.

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01:27:17 Cousin Russ: Lorine McGinnis Schulze lost 8 generations of research. https://www.facebook.com/olivetreegenealogy/posts/10155612560197815
01:29:00 Dawn Carlile: The Redbook can still be found at http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:30:09 Dave Robison: I just tried the Redbook link and I get “Whitelabel Error Page
01:30:10 Betty-Lu Burton: I have noticed while reveiwing index records for FamilySearc indexing that some indexers will assume the female middle name is the maiden name and I have seen times when yes it is a maiden name but the maiden name of the female’s mother or grandmother
01:31:16 Marian Koalski: I have found family members 30 years after thinking that I had them all… in probate records that have recently come online.
01:31:42 Marian Koalski: I should say “found ADDITIONAL family members”
01:32:06 Betty-Lu Burton: Ihave a family in the 1800’s where all the children had the grandmother’s maiden name for a middle name
01:33:23 Cousin Russ: Dawn – thank you, but it isn’t linked to “the Wiki”
01:33:47 Bill West: Having to trim a branch off the family tree is almost as painful for me as deciding which books I need to cull from my bookcase.

01:34:18 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Have found a book that takes my ancestors back six more generations, very good quality but really want to find the author’s original source material (tough as it was written in 1912). Do have distant DNA matches to some folks who also document this line but am still on the hunt for these original documents that the author used to write the book.
01:34:26 Cousin Russ: http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:34:30 Dawn Carlile: The wiki is gone, just the Redbook works. If you search Wiki on Ancestry you only get a few articles, no wiki.
01:36:43 Randy Seaver: I’m still seeing Pat’s screen and not Russ’s comments
01:37:01 Doris Haskell: My first experience at the FHL was finding a book that had my paternal ancestors in a book about Lexington, MA records. The author did not itemize his sources, and this is still a source of a brick wall for me.
01:37:24 Janine Edmée Hakim: Thank you Cousin Russ, have sometimes found it difficult to find records for Indonesian relatives.
01:37:29 Randy Seaver: The latest blog post for Hints in a specific Ancestry database is https://www.geneamusings.com/2016/10/mining-ancestrycom-hints-by-specific.html

01:38:28 DearMYRTLE: FamilySearch https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Main_Page

Wikipedia

01:39:28 Betty-Lu Burton: I have found more information on my ancestors Italian towns in the French and Italian Wikipedia then in any of the English Wikis.

01:40:33 Dave Robison: The good news about the Red Book is that all I have to do to find it is look to myleft where it sits on a shelf!
01:42:28 Dave Robison: This Red Book is the Third Edition. I have no idea if that’s the latest.
01:42:33 Pat Kuhn: in my VanBilliard line there are two couples that have the same names and I keep finding trees that put children in the wrong family
01:44:56 Deb Andrew: I had a cousin who had to move his line over to a different ancestor. He thought my 2nd great grandfather was his great grandfather. Through extensive DNA testing it turns out that my 2nd great wasn’t but his brother was his great grandfather.
01:45:38 Randy Seaver: Amazon has Third Edition from 2004.

01:46:06 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Thanks for the tips – have a trip to Albany, NY in my future — this author actually also went to Haarlem, Holland so that’s also on my future dream trips!!
01:47:44 Randy Seaver: Hard cover Redbook on sale at Amazon is $40, only 10 left in stock. Kindle is $20

1939 Register
01:48:28 DearMYRTLE: regarding John Laws “You might find the original record BUT beware it may have original errors 1939 Register on FMP has my mother-in-law before her marriage has overwritten error and very misleading for a newbie.” FindMyPast 1939 Register https://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records/1939-register
01:48:33 Rachel Evans: I have the same issue Pat. There are four generations of men named John Bennem in my tree. Not including collateral Johns. It’s difficult to keep track and even worse to try to get people to fix things.
01:48:41 Randy Seaver: every record MAY be wrong due to informant error or clerk error. Thankfully, most are correct.


01:50:58 Cousin Russ: MyHeritage – New Collections added in March 2018 https://blog.myheritage.com/2018/03/new-historical-records-added-in-march-2018/

Billion Graves
01:58:27 Karen Trearchis: I am just joining your program today, so I hope this has not been stated today. I just learned to use BillionGraves [smart phone]  app on Saturday. I had attended Family History Day in Franklin, MA. One of the speakers shared information on BillionGraves & taught us to use the app. We went to a local cemetery to practice & I am impressed. Once I practice I am going to see if other chapter members of MSOG want to work together in doing part or all of a cemetery. It was so fun!

01:58:54: Dave Robison: Karen Trearchis, that speaker was Brian Moncur who is the chief technology officer at Billion Graves

02:00:45 Karen Trearchis: Great idea Russ, we have Scout come to our chapter each year to earn their Merit Badge. One of the officers is also a Scout leader.

FindAGrave
02:01:06 Randy Seaver: I really hate the ads now on FindAGrave. They slows down my work.
02:01:23 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Re the cemetery project – perhaps a local college has a GIS program and they would be willing to create a CAD drawing of the graveyard for you.
02:01:44 Karen Trearchis: What is GIS?
02:02:08 Marian Koalski: I think the same about FindaGrave, Myrt!
02:02:15 Yvonne Demoskoff: I sponsored my father’s memorial for a modest fee, which makes the ads disappear
02:02:35 Marian Koalski: It’s very hard to distinguish between data and advertising
02:04:25 Randy Seaver: I’m happy spring is here – I got two gravestone photos of 3rd great-grandparents stones on FindAGrave from a volunteer in Glocester RI.
02:06:22 Marian Koalski: Pat Kuehn, if you can email (or mail) me pieces of your project, I’ll be glad to do data entry for you.

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02:06:54 Cousin Russ: Elizabeth Shown Mills writes “This well-done discussion of a very complex subject may help some of you who are seeking context for your research. In fact, this _American History_ site from the Oxford Reference Encyclopedia is a rich trove we can explore for many research projects.” http://americanhistory.oxfordre.com/view/10.1093/acrefore/9780199329175.001.0001/acrefore-9780199329175-e-268

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02:08:00 Cousin Russ: Elizabeth Shown Mills weighs in on Formulating a research question. Why bother? https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/using-family-search-citation
02:09:05 Cousin Russ: Facebook just promised to offer its users around the world the same privacy controls required under a new European data protection law. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/technology/a-tough-task-for-facebook-european-type-privacy-for-all.html
02:09:16 Cousin Russ: Be sure to see Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 11,000+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list –
02:09:22 Bill West: My research plan is based on finding the next shiny thing. Not very organized, I know, but it’s fun. :0
02:09:31 Dave Robison: We had a good reminder lesson from Thomas Jones at the MGC conference this past weekend.
02:09:57 John Laws: alangodfreymaps.co.uk
02:09:58 Dave Robison: Don’t forget Gail Devers list for Canadian FB pages.

5000 members
02:10:29 Cousin Russ: 5,000 # of DearMYRTLE Facebook Group members https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10160302629810374/
02:10:58 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Congratulations!
02:11:30 Karen Trearchis: Congratulations!
02:12:15 Cousin Russ: Lisa Louise Cooke’s VINTAGE NEW YORK CITY STREET VIEWS ON GOOGLE EARTH https://lisalouisecooke.com/2018/04/09/nyc-street-views/
02:12:41 Cousin Russ: ARCHIVED: One Soldier’s Story – SSG Christian Werthwein. Handouts are here > http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/2018/04/07/archived-one-soldiers-story-ssg-christian-werthwein

02:14:12 Karen Trearchis: Yeah!
02:14:30 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
02:16:39 Cousin Russ: Our Conversation continues HERE — https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/102461242403735457058/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/gME1vXDoysf
02:17:22 Doris Haskell: Thank you, everyone for a wonderful time.


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