ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group Successful Correspondence

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15 Aug 3027 AmericaGen Study Group tackles AmericaGen Study Group tackles Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.) https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

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Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits. Combined AmericanGen Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” Homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/16SWjVvGi0fQwLmoldMl2YrI70k5Fz90E/view?usp=sharing

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09:51:26 From Shelley Murphy : Good afternoon!
10:01:06 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group tackles Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.)
10:01:33 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
10:05:16 From Melissa Barker : Hello All, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is in the house!
10:06:32 From Molly McKinley : Geocities website..yes all gone now…
10:07:20 From Cousin Russ : How-to quickly convert Gmail email into PDF https://blog.timesunion.com/tech/2359/how-to-quickly-convert-gmail-email-into-pdf/
10:07:23 From marian koalski : What do you do when a message refers to more than one relative?
10:08:09 From marian koalski : I should have said, “How do you name the PDF” when it refers to more than one relative?
10:09:52 From marian koalski : I’m facing the question with Aunt Pearl’s letters from 1976
10:10:11 From Molly McKinley : I found some 1998 AOL forum notes…fun to read but did not help much.
10:10:24 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : So is the item an EVENT on the ancestor’s time line?
10:10:26 From Melinda Culpon : I handle multiple by duplicating the information – can name it for each
10:10:48 From Rebecca Williams : You could save the pdf more than once, into each family it refers to.
10:11:41 From Shelley Murphy : I would probably put it under notes and questions, but it could have its own line with the date received depends on the info received. great question.
10:11:46 From marian koalski : I finally have settled on one name for each message but linking to it from citations on all those people
10:13:56 From Cyndy Bray : If you forward email to Evernote, does the attachment go with it?
10:14:41 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericanGen Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” Homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/16SWjVvGi0fQwLmoldMl2YrI70k5Fz90E/view?usp=sharing
10:14:55 From Danine Cozzens : Thanks, Russ!
10:16:29 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Facebook and message board posts also come to mind. (In lieu of handwritten correspondence.)
10:18:56 From Shelley Murphy : the glasses are interesting to pose for a picture

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10:22:07 From Cousin Russ : C-Line® Heavy Weight Polypropylene Clear High-Capacity Sheet Protectors (25-Pack) Part #: 62020-1 http://www.gaylord.com/Preservation/Archival-Envelopes%2C-Sleeves-%26-Protectors/C-Line%26%23174%3B-Heavy-Weight-Polypropylene-Clear-High-Capacity-Sheet-Protectors-%2825-Pack%29/p/62020-1
10:22:11 From Melinda Culpon : I did the letters my dad wrote to my mom when he was on navy cruises – like Melissa “archive lady” recommended and gave to my mom as a Christmas present
10:28:51 From Maria Tegtmeier : Grateful for a reminder to preserve letters. I gave some letters my mom wrote to her parents to my brother a long time ago to digitize and he hasn’t. This conversation has reminded me that to get the letters and digitize them and put them in protective sleeves.
10:34:06 From Valerie Lisk : In the Genealogy Do-Over Facebook Group, Thomas has a lot of forms that are free to use. [See: https://www.facebook.com/groups/genealogydoover/]
10:34:58 From Shelley Murphy : Just yes emailed him to see, thanks
10:35:49 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : I can show people how to download the file RUSS.

Instant Secretary's Handbook

10:37:41 From Cousin Russ : From Melinda Coulpon’s homework – Instant Secretary’s Handbook: A Reference Source And Guide For The Professional Secretary https://www.amazon.com/Instant-Secretarys-Handbook-Reference-Professional/dp/B00170IT7S

HANDBOOK FOR GENEALOGICAL CORRESPONDENCE

Handbook for Genealogical Correspondence (revised edition) https://www.amazon.com/HANDBOOK-GENEALOGICAL-CORRESPONDENCE-REVISED-Genealogical/dp/B000GQIG7C

10:37:52 From Shelley Murphy : they don’t do it anymore but I using social media is probably on the table
10:38:14 From Launa Droescher : I have the spelling book from that set that my father gave me years ago. My children kept trying to run off with it.
10:42:10 From Melissa Barker : Be nice to archivists, be specific please.
10:43:48 From Maria Tegtmeier : Any suggestions on corresponding with foreign genealogical societies or archives?

10:44:41 From Cary Bright  : I have trouble with citations from things I request copies of. I include the request that they include the roll or book, newspaper, But rarely get all the specifics like page number, col number etc. You think when you pay for something you could get it! Thanks to the volunteers who run these programs, but please go the extra mile with ESM type citation info. I can format it!!

10:44:42 From Valerie Lisk : I have used the online request form and sent a prepaid snailmail request with an SASE to a particular county library, only to recieve a response when I made a phone call.
10:46:13 From marian koalski : See FamilySearch Wiki’s word list for other countries, like Poland Word List. Frequently it will have a sample letter form
10:47:33 From Cousin Russ : Letter Writing Guide for Genealogy https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Letter_Writing_Guide_for_Genealogy
10:48:07 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Great fix Cheri… fill in the blank!

10:49:21 From Leah Smith : I use Google Translate to help with Polish language and then try to have someone from a Polish genealogy group review. Concise language, and good etiquette are important. I find sometimes charts can be valuable. [ See Google Translate: https://translate.google.com ]
10:49:55 From Valerie Lisk : When I make a request from an online index, I cite the information on the index.
10:51:06 From Melinda Culpon : Once again – older genealogy books can show how to request information. I know I have found older Czech research books are still valid sources
10:54:00 From Shelley Murphy : twitter too
10:55:22 From Melissa Barker : Be consistent!
10:56:57 From DearMYRTLE: Include names, dates, places in your queries.
10:56:57 From Maria Tegtmeier : Sometimes I do a “screenshot” when I need to save something that I have on my phone screen. This might work for twitter.

This is the link to the multi-tabbed “Genealogy Research Log” created by Thomas MacEntee on his Abundant Genealogy website. See Free Genealogy Resources page at https://abundantgenealogy.com/free-genealogy-resources/

GenealogyDoOver Workbook
10:58:23 From Melinda Culpon : Thomas MacEntee’s book on amazon – https://www.amazon.com/Genealogy-Do-Over-Workbook-Thomas-MacEntee-ebook/dp/B019VJSSWM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1534352281&sr=8-1&keywords=genealogy+do+over

11:03:52 From Randi Patrick : Thank you. You guys are great; I am learning so much!
11:04:03 From Maria Tegtmeier : Yay
11:04:03 From Shelley Murphy : Thanks all!


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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 13 Aug 2018

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We first tackle the proposed cut that would close the Allen County Public Library. I followed up with the post “Contact Info: Ft. Wayne City Council About Library Budget Cut.” Other topics include:

  • Letters from the Dead –  the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson (Ol’ Myrt received hers as she was typing this post. YAY!)
  • More to the Fudge family photos story
  • Randy’s family photos – let’s remember to take them. (Ol’ Myrt had a big family gathering yesterday and totally forgot to take a single shot.) 
  • Ireland Valuation Books Translator
  • Accessing digital land records at FamilySearch that are not indexed with Randy Seaver’s best advice.
  • Wisconsin Area Research Centers
  • Authored works
  • Family bibles

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10:01:14 From John Laws : Good to be with you guys from a wet Scotland
10:01:17 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : Good Morning to all from HOT California.
10:01:48 From Graham Walter : Overcast but dry down near London
10:01:58 From Cousin Russ : From Dick Eastman’s blog “A Fort Wayne, Indiana, City Councilman Proposes Eliminating the Annual Budget for the Allen County Public Library” https://blog.eogn.com/2018/08/13/a-fort-wayne-indiana-city-councilman-proposes-eliminating-the-annual-budget-for-the-allen-county-public-library/amp/
10:02:11 From Marian Koalski : Whoa!
10:02:38 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ. Ask the downtown hotels and restaurants.
10:03:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Does he not realize how many dollars they receive in people visiting the library? I am sure it is more then the annual budget
10:03:28 From Deb Andrew : They tried to do that here, did it for awhile, closed several branches. Then they had to reopen them all over again and buy new books.

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10:03:31 From Cousin Russ : Federation of Genealogy Societies https://www.fgsconference.org
10:03:44 From Marian Koalski : The councilman is obviously not in touch with how much internet access the library provides to the public, including e-book borrowings.
10:03:53 From Abbie McDonough : My local library is not just used for reading. For example I go to craft meetings at my local library.
10:04:26 From Barbara LaMarche : Indiana has always been one of the most “Genea” friendly states.
10:04:40 From Marcia Philbrick : There are other public libraries encountering this exact same issue — do away with the annual budget. Even though these aren’t major genealogical libraries, they still likely have resources that genealogists rely on.
10:06:35 From Marian Koalski : Around here, the library is where we meet for book groups, kids’ classes in STEM, computer clubs, genealogy clubs, art displays, musical performances….
10:06:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : My local library provides many activities for children to help with learning and social skills
10:07:28 From Bill West : We had a similiar situation here. Someone wanted to reduce the library budget because “nobody reads anymore” The budget was kept the same and the town has built a new library,
10:08:29 From Marian Koalski : Who is the councilman’s opponent in the upcoming elections?
10:08:32 From Gloria Deison : My local library holds the historical town archive! (morning / evening all!)
10:08:51 From bobbi to All panelists : maybe this was good timing. they can make their presence known.
10:09:09 From Valerie Lisk to All panelists : MAAGI meets at Allen County annually. [Midwest African American Genealogy Institute]
10:09:55 From Yvonne Demoskoff : As an example, when my husband and I were in SLC this February for RootsTech, we spent money locally at restaurants, the mall, souvenirs, and at the planetarium
10:10:11 From Rachel Evans : They don’t understand people are on fixed incomes and can’t afford to buy books on Amazon. My mother is and she is at the library several times a week to get books.
10:10:12 From Hilary Gadsby : Too many small libraries get closed. We will end up with no place to find the recrds if this was to happen.
10:10:55 From Marian Koalski : I suppose that libraries could be viewed as subversive if politicians are afraid of having citizens talk to each other.
10:11:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : The best way is to show them that the library is more than just a book depository and can provide customers to local businesses
10:11:07 From Hilary Gadsby : Our libraries hold a lot more than books.
10:11:24 From Michelle Minner : Unfortunately I don’t think that people that live outside of the local area would have any “say” or vote in the issue. It has to be a community effort…and it has to be a grass roots activism (in my opinion)
10:13:37 From Marian Koalski : Dollars from outside of Allen County could be a form of activism.
10:14:00 From Bill West : One likes to think logic would prevailabout the library, but given recent history I am aconcerned.
10:14:44 From Melissa Barker : I am here listening in but have a cold, home from work.
10:15:07 From Marian Koalski : Remember gifts to local libraries when you write obituaries.
10:15:08 From Betty-Lu Burton : Melissa get better soon.

LettersFromTheDead
10:16:30 From Dave Robison : Letters from the Dead –  the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson

10:18:02 From Hilary Gadsby : More to the story of the bag full of Fudge family photos https://lynnswaffles.com/2018/08/09/fudge-park-and-ginn-family-part-2/

10:20:40 From Randy Seaver : Randy’s FB – https://www.facebook.com/Geneaholic

Ireland Valuation Books Translator

10:21:01 From Cousin Russ : Ireland Valuation Books Translator http://www.townlandvaluationtranslator.com

10:31:03 From Marian Koalski : We need someone who is the Professional Photo Reminder in the family, who will interrupt when needed to get it done.

10:32:03 From Cousin Russ : Land records –  “Finding David Auble’s Land Records in Sussex County, New Jersey” by Randy Seaver https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/finding-david-aubles-land-records-in.html
10:33:12 From Doris Haskell  : I have found great treasures in land records. Surprises. Been thinking about getting back into them again.
10:33:27 From Michelle Minner : Thank you, Randy! woo hoo! I am going to search the catalog for land records for my family! WOW
10:34:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : I found my 2 great grandfather’s estate packet recently on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the estate records only mentioned his second family and nothing about his first family. I come through the oldest daughter of the first family. Granted by the time he died all his children from the first family had married and had children of their own.
10:36:47 From John Laws : From an Will for my grandfather published in South Africa as he was the director in the London Office of Stutterfords of Jo’Burg I found two cousins unknown to me – EXCITED.
10:37:02 From Doris Haskell : Do you know if any land records have been indexed?
10:37:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is easier and faster to digitize a microfilm than to index it.
10:37:43 From June Butka : I found the index for Elijah Pease Probate docket 1 page 1210, unfortunately I can’t find the docket 1 record
10:39:57 From June Butka : Sometimes they fill in the pages at the end of a year with previous information from early times. Not always just the years listed.
10:41:58 From John Laws : Randy – You put me to shame
10:44:10 From Marcia Philbrick : Deeds are the one source that has helped me separate two men of the same name! I’m very thankful that the images are coming online.
10:44:13 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Absolutely!
10:44:55 From Doris Haskell : It was the grantee index that led me to the second married name of my female ancestor.
10:48:27 From Randy Seaver : Jay Verkler is who I was thinking about
10:48:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Both WW I and WW II had 3 different draft cards.
10:49:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I found someone on CEF record at Ancestry and it has numerous pages
10:50:57 From Cousin Russ : Carol – please post your question here
10:52:53 From Marian Koalski : Judging by the excitement, Randy, I think your campaign for studying the browsable records on FamilySearch is succeeding … and needs to continue.
10:53:19 From Randy Seaver : Here is a link to Jay Verkler’s visionary keynote talk at RootsTech 2012 about FamilySearch viasion for the genea-future – https://www.geneamusings.com/2012/02/do-you-believe-familysearch-vision-of.html. Unfortunately, the video is no longer available
10:53:32 From DearMYRTLE  : http://www.delawarecountypa.com/
10:53:34 From Molly McKinley : You also need to check more than one state if the heirs moved. My gggrandfather died in Alabama, his family moved to Arkansas. I found probate files in both states.
10:55:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : I heard they are aiming for next day posting of new digitized records
10:58:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : Meaning that when they get done filming with records currently being digitized around the world.
10:58:42 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : When you reach the county will index section of the catalogue, is there a way to know which deeds are digitized from the list ?
10:59:08 From Rachel Evans : The search catalog can also help you find offline records. I found some church records that are only viewable at Salt Lake. The catalog said where the records were located. It is 20 minutes down the road from me. I emailed the Archives and they told me they have more records that were not filmed.
10:59:30 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes! That’s exactly how it worked for me.
11:02:08 From Marcia Philbrick : Some public libraries also provide access to the locked images. I’m 75 miles from a Family History Center and/or a public library with access. I appreciate the library access because it has longer hours.
11:03:37 From Marcia Philbrick : When Kansas records were filmed, the counties decided what would be filmed. Thus, not all county records have been filmed.
11:04:01 From Randi Patrick : For the people who have to travel a long distance, they could ask their local library if they would consider becoming a LDS affiliate.
11:04:08 From Hilary Gadsby : The school admission registers for some of my family are at the museum in the village so will not be digitised.
11:04:19 From Randy Seaver : The San Diego Reginoal FS Library is closed for remodeling for 6 months. They are taking out all of the books and microfilm machines, adding missionary offices and a Discovery Center.
11:04:48 From Barbara Gressel : When I was in Canada last year, I did a lot of research on land records. Some of the records were held in the local history center and they had been filmed my the Family History Center. THe rest of the records are held by Queen’s University and they have not been filmed. Didn’t have time to go to Queen’s . . . so sad. I guess I’ll have to go back.
11:04:51 From Cathy Naborowski : The Minnesota Genealogical Society just became an FHL Affiliate. Took about a month. Cannot see everything but most things.
11:05:32 From June Butka : Not all affiliates have the same available image as the Family History Library.
11:07:02 From Gloria Deison : yes, my church isn’t going to let them digitise. I’m there at the archive all the time, I know we have copies on CDs, but they won’t go on-line. Probably ever.
11:08:14 From Michelle Minner : I found the same thing (list of all the ships and ranks) my father had in the US Navy….the seaman logs are available form the FHL! You do have to read through them (not indexed) but I learned my father was washed off board during the Battle of Leyte in WWII…(we didn’t know about that!)
11:09:00 From Randy Seaver : John is describing genea-gasms in the dusty stacks!
11:09:21 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Randy!
11:11:20 From Marian Koalski : Michelle Minner, do you mean that the seaman logs are online at FamilySearch, or just at the FHL itself?
11:11:56 From Michelle Minner : Family Search Centers…I found the logs from WWII at the Family Center here in Tucson!
11:16:56 From Pat Kuhn : find my past and the Catholic records!!!!!!
11:17:03 From Marian Koalski : Lots of Penna & NJ church records (old and not-so-old) are in Historical Society of Penna’s collection offered on Ancestry.
11:17:49 From Marian Koalski : Gloria Deison, do you mean your local congregation or the whole denomination?

American Ancestors
11:17:56 From Cousin Russ : https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx

findmypast 2017

11:18:03 From Cousin Russ : https://www.findmypast.com/
11:18:41 From Gloria Deison : Those CDs were done by local researchers who donated their time so that we could have a backup, I feel the higher ups in the church are not interested (in archives, in genealogy, in opening their archives to share, but at least they have the actual archive open and I can go for others, too.)

Historical Society of Pennsylvania
11:18:55 From Cousin Russ : Historical Society of Pennsylvania https://hsp.org/
11:20:26 From Michelle Minner : WOW I love that County Map! Wish I had one like that for Missouri!
11:21:03 From Randy Seaver : We really need ALL of the record providers to keep adding record collections – competition is necessary to keep growing the opportunities. If only one organization was digitizing, we wouldn’t get new collections as fast as we are now.

11:21:09 From Cousin Russ : Did you know that the Society and the University of Wisconsin (UW) System cooperate in a network of Area Research Centers (ARCs) located at UW campus libraries throughout the state and at the Northern Great Lakes Visitor Center? Each Area Research Center serves a specific geographic region and you can access most collections from across the state and have them sent to your region from anywhere in the network. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS4000

11:21:41 From Cousin Russ : The Legal Genealogist Blog https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/08/11/perfect-information/
11:23:50 From John Laws : Hi Debbie good to have you join us
11:24:59 From Betty-Lu Burton : A compilation is a good starting point, but is just a starting point.
11:25:23 From Devon Lee : I’m of the opinion all genealogy research should be peer reviewed. So I would vet the books if it was a project I was interested in.
11:27:53 From June Butka : One of the points Judy Russell, made was that the entries into the Bible were well before the date of the Bible. Bible Date is a important, not only for the births but the person who was supposed to own the Bible.
11:29:17 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, Dear Myrtle, My looming question. What if you can”t find a document other a authored work?
11:30:03 From Randy Seaver : Barbara, I source the authored work and continue to look for a record.
11:30:05 From John Laws : I put on my blog every day the following statement “The content provided on this site is not guaranteed to be error free It is always advised that you consult original records.”
11:32:18 From Randi Patrick : I have gone to many garage and book sales and I see old bibles on sale. So I wouldn’t count the dates of birth, etc., that are listed as any type of proof; the information could’ve been listed way after. It’s chain of custody should be taken into consideration.
11:32:19 From June Butka : I’m not faulting Judy Either.She followed GPS. [The Genealogical Proof Standard is most recently codified by the Board for Certification of Genealogists in their book Genealogy Standards, fiftieth-anniversary edition (Nashville, TN: Ancestry, 2014).
11:32:21 From Marian Koalski : Isn’t that what the source fields are for when we fill in blanks in genealogy programs?
11:34:36 From Devon Lee : Source fields are great, but it’s great to go further, just like you said.
11:34:43 From Randy Seaver : Some genealogy programs have fields for comments or research notes.


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ARCHIVED: WACKY Wednesday – Indexing

FamilySearch Indexing

DearMYRTLE’s *very* distant cousin Pinky hosted this webinar in response to what Miss Peggy Laurentzen heard at the recent BYU genealogy conference. Apparently, FamilySearch reported at the rate we’re indexing it would take 150 years to catch up with what has been digitized. Practical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. This webinar discusses the specific guidelines for New York Naturalizations as we indexed a batch. Thank you to panelist Marceline Beem, Deb Andrew and MElissa LeMaster Barker for keeping a watchful eye, ensuringour index batch would be submitted without error.
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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt 30 July 2018

MondaysWithMyrt

What’s the “After Party?” It’s when we stop the webinar recording, but continue talking. This time, we discussed Pat Kuhn’s craft YouTube channel (awesome!) and one of Ol’ Myrt’s ancestors whose probate packet indicated he had $13,000US in the bank when he died. We’ve included the Dollar Times Inflation Calculator link below that indicated the buying power in 2018 dollars is over $165,000US. Wow.

Among our topics today:

  • What are you collecting?
  • RootsWeb Mailing Lists Help
  • Ancestry’s “We’re Related” smart phone app
  • Randy Seaver’s Finding a 1916 California death certificate in FamilySearch’s digital image collection
  • DearMYRTLE’s DAR application – she’s gathering 2 more required documents
  • Blaine Bettinger’s DNA-Central Webinars
  • True Lewis’ 2 favorite DNA apps

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10:01:53 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:01:54 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Good Noon time Myrt and Russ
10:01:59 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Hello from South Louisiana
10:02:30 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Calendar http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/calendar/
10:02:53 From Hilary Gadsby : I need to watch those sessions as I have people who emigrated to Canada
10:03:07 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Good afternoon from New Jersey
10:03:26 From Cousin Russ : GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
10:03:36 From Danine Cozzens : I’m in. Got a couple of brick walls in Canada. Great topic!
10:04:29 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : There is someone with a birthday in the attendees today.
10:04:37 From Launa Droescher : I’ve been trying to catch her very good

Ethnicity graphic created by DearMYRTLE

DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

10:06:15 From Dave Robison  : The Springfield Museum is named “Museum of Springfield History AND Archives.” WMGS has a private tour this Wednesday.
10:07:35 From Bill West : Good morning from sunny southeastern Massachusetts.

What are you collecting?
10:08:44 From June Butka : My mother’s Thumble collection from her travels, is one of my favorites. Each one tells it’s own story.
10:09:15 From Michelle Minner : I collected baseball ticket stubs from my grandfather, and great grandfather! weird, but important to me!
10:11:11 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’ A Worthington Weblog: https://worthy2be.wordpress.com
10:12:19 From cyndy Bray : I have the program from my Grandmothers 1907 graduation ceremony

10:13:06 From Cousin Russ : The Cemetery Keeper’s Wife https://www.amazon.com/Cemetery-Keepers-Wife-Maryann-McFadden/dp/0692974776
10:13:56 From Graham Walter : My father’s credit plate for a local department store Adelaide [South Australia] – (1930’s). Pre credit card time
10:14:05 From June Butka : The same for Henrietta Lacks story. a great book to read mis The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot.
10:16:20 From Cousin Russ : WE’RE RELATED https://www.ancestry.com/wererelated/share/
10:17:58 From Cousin Russ : http://historycamp.org/pioneer-valley

10:20:58 From Cousin Russ : This is a good article. Follow the link for more information. Shays’ Rebellion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion
10:22:59 From Deb Andrew : I have a rubber duck, and it wasn’t from a child.
10:24:13 From Dave Robison : In spite of the lack of records from the 18th and 19th centuries, I have a written record of the marriage of my 2nd great grandparents. “Advice to a Married Couple”
10:24:47 From Dave Robison : We used metal plates at a gas station where I worked in the late 60s.
10:24:49 From Graham Walter : similar to a military dog-tag in size [YES!]
10:24:57 From Danine Cozzens : I have vintage jewelry that belonged to my mom, grandmothers, and great aunt. And I wear it for historic and vintage dress up.
10:25:00 From Kathleen Daetsch : I have my mother’s WWII ration stamps
10:25:22 From Rachel Evans  My great-grandmother used to sing and dance in the NYC area when she was younger. I have programs from some of her performances.
10:25:35 From Hilary Gadsby : I have programmes for the shows that I was performing in at school.
10:26:14 From Barbara Gressel  : Her descendants came to Missouri State. A wonderful story. All of the students were required to read about Henrietta Lacks.
10:28:48 From Robbin Smith: I have my fathers report card from Xavier in NYC and his dog tags from navy service, and certificate of his crossing the dateline
10:29:00 From Robbin Smith : He served in WWII
10:29:12 From Danine Cozzens : I’ve also collected vintage postcards of the towns where my ancestors lived.
10:30:21 From Bill West : I have the high school newspaper editions I wrote for as well as the science fiction fanzines with my articles and stories. Presently, as a retiree, I collect dust. 🙂
10:31:10 From Randy Seaver: Besides dead ancestors, I assume?
10:32:04 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I have a fire insurance policy for my great-grandparents farm dated 6 Feb 1894 the policy unfolds to a very large document. I always worked in the insurance industry. I have many documents for my various families.
10:33:07 From Randy Seaver : My great-grandparents invested in some Russian company back in the early 1900s (before the 1917 revolution) and my daughter (who speaks russian) claimed them and displays them on her office wall
10:33:22 From Randy Seaver : I never put a tree on Rootsweb WorldConnect

10:33:38 From Cousin Russ : RootsWeb Mailing Lists Help https://mailinglists.rootsweb.com/lists/listsHelp
10:39:03 From Randy Seaver : My blog post link for finding a 1916 California death certificate on FamilySearch digital microfilm is https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/07/finding-free-los-angeles-california.html
10:41:05 From Dave Robison : You’ve got Randy’s attention!

THE_GenealogyShowhttps://www.thegenealogyshow.uk/
7 & 8 June 2019 at the NEC in Birmingham, England
Mr. Myrt and I will be there!

10:44:35 From Graham Walter : I’ll certainly be going to Birmingham 🙂

2018 Family History Expo original virtual
10:45:32 From Cousin Russ : Upcoming Family History Expos Virtual Conference offerings https://www.familyhistoryexpos.com/viewevent/index/190
10:45:33 From Hilary Gadsby : Will be great to catch up again Graham
10:45:48 From Graham Walter : sounds good
10:45:49 From Dave Robison : I like the “regular” people angle. That’s the premise for “Genealogy Road Show” on PBS with Mary Tedesco, Kenyatta Berry and Josh Taylor.
10:45:50 From Randy Seaver : genies are foodies!!!
10:47:36 From DAVID TAYLOR : Looks like a great Conference

MyHeritage LIVE Oslo 2018
10:49:01 From Graham Walter : https://blog.myheritage.com/2018/07/youre-invited-to-myheritages-international-user-conference/
10:49:57 From June Butka : Thankfully the fire alarm that went off was just bumped by the Insulation people. No Fire. . I will catch up in the archieve. for what I missed.
10:50:23 From Dave Robison : BeforeI forget…again…Audrey Collins will be at the TIARA conference in Boston in August.
10:50:28 From Liv Christensen : The Norwegian MyHeritage event is the biggest genealogy event ever.
10:51:05 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Thanks, Myrt!
10:51:15 From Graham Walter : 🙂
10:51:15 From Pamela Wells : It’s my birthday today, too!
10:51:33 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Happy birthday, Pamela!
10:51:33 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s Finding a 1916 California death certificate on FamilySearch digital microfilm is https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/07/finding-free-los-angeles-california.html
10:54:08 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Yvonne!
10:55:06 From Danine Cozzens : Excellent step by step accounting, Randy!
10:55:20 From Robbin Smith : agreed

11:08:27 From Randy Seaver : The takeaway for me is that I SHOULD check the digital microfilm on FamilySearch Catalog EVERY time I look for a record.

11:09:05 From June Butka : I wish I had that luck with my Isiah Pease search.
11:10:18 From June Butka : I found land records, however the Maine Archieve can’t find the information the catalog or the record name any longer.
11:12:35 From Dave Robison : I’m the Registrar for the Pomeroy Chapter of the SAR. We can’t use applications approved prior to 1985! We can use them for guidance, but we have to “fill in the blanks!”
11:15:34 From Dave Robison : Russ, the SAR preparation manual outlines the GPS on page 3.
11:16:20 From Dave Robison : They call it the “genealogical proof argument”

11:19:33 From Valerie Lisk: Mentioning DNA, True had previously, on another webinar, mentioned two apps she used for sorting her matches. One was an ancestry app and one was a google extension. True, what are the name of those please?
11:22:15 From Valerie Lisk : Black Pro gen Live
11:22:22 From June Butka : Thank you, the extention information will be helpful.
11:22:39 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks True!
11:22:46 From Cousin Russ : John you are here, You need to turn your camera on.

11:24:20 From Cousin Russ : Blaine Bettinger’s DNA-Central Webinars https://dna-central.com/webinars/

DNA Central Webinars
11:24:57 From Cousin Russ : MedBetterDNA https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/medbetterdna/gnbpjempamffbpppblmabeeimkppenla?hl=en-US

DearMYRTLE’s DAR Application is in process.
11:25:16 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : As a 10 member of DAR and past Registrar, I am so exited to hear your news ! DAR is a fabulous sisterhood that provides service around the world and preserves our family histories. I serve on the Veteran’s committee.

11:32:50 From Robbin Smith : Online Idaho Death Records & Indexes https://www.deathindexes.com/idaho/
11:33:11 From Crystal Toenjes : I’m happy to hear about your good experience with finishing your DAR paperwork. I’ve been working for more than six years, and there always seems to be some small thing missing from my proofs to finish my application. I’m now researching my sixth potential DAR Patriot, and really hope this one will finally work out since he is also a gateway ancestor for the Mayflower Society.
11:33:28 From Deb Andrew : Do scanned copies work or are originals needed?

11:34:00 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, thank you. We collect supplies for our local Veterans home and the Wounded Warrior Project. We help our community celebrate all our patriot holidays serving refreshments at parades. Also, our quilters make quilts for our older local Vets and the rest of us supply fabric etc to our talented quilters. We also participate in Wreaths Around the World for the graves of Veterans in our local cemetery at Christmas time . Love all of you at Dear Myrtle. I have learned soooo much over the years.
11:35:31 From True Lewis : Scanned Copies of the Originals are acceptable.

Is DearMYRTLE committing a copyright infringement by including a page from the LDS Church’s The Friend in her weekly letter to her grandchildren? What about no attribution showing up on her screen shot from hre RootsMagic genealogy software?

11:35:41 From Robbin Smith : for personal use I think is okay
11:35:55 From Danine Cozzens : But it’s personal use.
11:36:06 From Devon Lee : We’re encouraged to use these items in our Primary classes. So, what’s the difference in a family share?
11:36:14 From Maria Tegtmeier : I think that as long as you are not trying to earn money from it, you are ok.
11:36:22 From Deb Andrew : It could be a violations, unless they stated upfront that it is given a release.
11:36:29 From Doris Haskell : You can share with your grandchildren. NO problem.
11:36:37 From June Butka : If you are using it for family only not publishing. is not infringing. Nothing being sold. or published you shuld be okay.
11:36:42 From Randy Seaver : fair use to copy it and use it for personal information and education, but don’t publish it
11:37:56 From Deb Andrew : Always write and asked, to be on the safe side.
11:38:05 From June Butka : Is it a problem to request use from LDS?
11:38:20 From Randy Seaver : Check the book for usage restrictions, and if there are some, ask for permission to use it broadly
11:38:48 From True Lewis : Your Welcome Valerie –
11:40:13 From Randy Seaver : I found only the baseball bat on the image.
11:40:27 From True Lewis : Crystal do you have a Registrar helping you? Someone in your local area should be able to guide you. You may need a extra pair of eyes.
11:40:31 From Devon Lee : Ha. I have the screen too small to find the items.
11:41:59 From Marcia Philbrick : Re: Screenshots — When the screen shot is of our database in RootsMagic, do we have to get permission from RootsMagic?
11:42:35 From Devon Lee : Do you need to say screen shot from RM if the article is already talking about RootsMagic? That seems obvious.
11:43:02 From Crystal Toenjes : True: Yes I do, as well as working with some of the other ladies in the group who have served as registrar in the past. With on of the potential patriots in particular, at least two other people thought I had enough, but the current registrar did not and will therefore not submit the paperwork.
11:43:07 From Randy Seaver : Marcia, I don’t think we need permission for screenshots of RootsMagic screens. It’s YOUR image, not there’s. It’s your data on their format.
11:44:09 From True Lewis : My 1st Time at Continental Congress: https://mytrueroots.blogspot.com/2018/07/daughters-of-american-revolution-127th.html
11:44:30 From Randy Seaver : True – loved your blog post!
11:44:41 From True Lewis : Thanks Randy!!!!!!


AFTER PARTY COMMENTS
Elizabeth Matson
11:49:21 From Cousin Russ : Author Elizabeth Matson
https://www.amazon.com/Elizabeth-Matson/e/B003XKGS9G/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1

11:47:00 From DearMYRTLE: Blaine Bettinger made a bold statement about making videos accessible to all. “Over the past few months, I’ve learned that genealogy has a VERY LONG way to go to encourage, much less ensure, access to anyone with hearing and/or sight challenges. It’s not even on the radar of most genealogists. For example, from this point forward, other than contracts I’ve already entered into, I will only participate in recorded presentations/webinars that are closed captioned (within a certain time frame). I encourage other genealogists to join me!” Source:  https://www.facebook.com/bbettinger/posts/531945976876

11:51:31 From Devon Lee : I’m hearing impaired and I struggle in some live streams, but there are some platforms that have captioning live.
11:52:03 From Devon Lee : I’ll admit that I don’t watch some channels that don’t have closed captions, but I’ll accept a bad caption rather than no caption.
11:52:58 From Doris Haskell : I am 74, short, hearing impaired. All I ask is to be able to sit in the first or second row.
11:53:04 From Devon Lee : As for the presentation slides, I think there is much that can be done to improve the slides that we are using when we teach. Too often, too much is on the slides than should be
11:53:16 From Valerie Lisk : When you register for an event at the St. Louis Genealogical Society, they ask if you have a disability and they try to accommodate everyone.

12:00:19 From Valerie Lisk : I have a password file in my google docs.
12:00:55 From Doris Haskell : I have a document printed out with my passwords, and a Google Sheets file as well.

Inflation calculator
12:01:07 From Cousin Russ : https://www.dollartimes.com
12:01:37 From Doris Haskell : I put up a batch of strawberry jam this morning.
12:01:39 From Valerie Lisk : going to work
12:02:08 From Devon Lee : I’m going to grade summer school papers!!!
12:07:24 From Cousin Russ : Pat O’Donnell Kuhn’s crafting website. https://www.youtube.com/user/MsPatk
12:07:58 From Valerie Lisk : I don’t have time for crafts since I discovered DNA and webinars.


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Mondays with Myrt – 9 July 2018 features JoyFlips Demo

This will revolutionize communication with my grandchildren!

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UPDATED: The archived webinar is embedded below.

During the 9 July 2018 Mondays with Myrtwe will have a special guest Tami Mize with a live demo of JoyFlips. The live broadcast starts at Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles). Tami will be first on the docket.

From the website you’ll learn JoyFlips isn’t just a phone app. There’s a web version that works seamlessly with the scanning and cell phone recordings you are doing with you smartphone, or as a stand alone method for archiving photos with tags and embedded recordings. File storage space at JoyFlips is FREE! You may upload your JoyFlips  photo to the appropriate ancestors on FamilySearch, since this is FamilySearch Certified.

Watch the first 15 minutes of this ARCHIVED version of Mondays with Myrt to catch Tami’s demonstration of JoyFlips. She shares a folder and we connect via our smart phones. Then she initiates a recording and asks me questions about each photo. This is precisely the sort of thing I an do with my grandchildren! YAY!


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