NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was just received by our friends at FamilySearch.org
Salt Lake City, Utah (20 February 2019), FamilySearch is hosting a free Chinese Genealogy workshop at the Family History Library on Thursday, May 9th, 2019, 1:00 pm – 6:00 pm. (MDT). The event is being held in conjunction with the celebration of the 150th anniversary of the driving of the Golden Spike at Promontory Summit, Utah, in 1869. Many Chinese workers were instrumental in the construction of the transcontinental railroads. The Library is located at 35 North West Temple Street in downtown Salt Lake City. Seating is limited. Registration is required for this free workshop.
Over 150 years ago, thousands of Chinese immigrants labored arduously to construct the transcontinental railroad—a historic connection of the Central Pacific and Union Pacific railroads at Promontory Summit, Utah. Today, many of their Chinese-American descendants are trying to trace their roots back to China.
IMAGE: Professor Ava Chin
The FamilySearch Chinese Genealogy Workshop will offer hands-on learning about the largest collection of Chinese family history records outside of mainland China and present ways for Chinese Americans to discover and connect their Chinese ancestors.
Keynote speaker Professor Ava Chin, an award-winning author, New York Times columnist, lecturer and “Urban Forager,” will speak about her experiences as a descendant of a Chinese railroad worker.
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NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was just received from our friends at FamilySearch.org.
New Historical Records on FamilySearch: Week of January 28, 2019
SALT LAKE CITY, UT—FamilySearch added new, free historical records this week from Austria, Brazil, Cape Verde, England, France, Italy (Mantova, Terni, and Vicenza), Netherlands, South Africa, and the United States (Maine and Missouri). (Easily find and share this announcement online in the FamilySearch Newsroom).
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Searchable historic records are made available on FamilySearch.org through the help of thousands of volunteers from around the world. These volunteers transcribe (index) information from digital copies of handwritten records to make them easily searchable online. More volunteers are needed (particularly those who can read foreign languages) to keep pace with the large number of digital images being published online at FamilySearch.org. Learn more about volunteering to help provide free access to the world’s historic genealogical records online at FamilySearch.org/indexing.
FamilySearch is the largest genealogy organization in the world. FamilySearch is a nonprofit, volunteer-driven organization sponsored by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Millions of people use FamilySearch records, resources, and services to learn more about their family history. To help in this great pursuit, FamilySearch and its predecessors have been actively gathering, preserving, and sharing genealogical records worldwide for over 100 years. Patrons may access FamilySearch services and resources for free at FamilySearch.org or through more than 5,000 family history centers in 129 countries, including the main Family History Library in Salt Lake City, Utah.
We consider logical research patterns as one would transition from an Ancestry Member Tree to digital records on FamilySearch.org. Participate in an unscripted, open discussion hosted by DearMYRTLE’s very distant cousin Annie Oakmont.
00:40:54 Betty-Lu Burton: It also shows the Cousin Russ is aware that FamilySearch and Ancestry have different records group
00:43:44 Betty-Lu Burton: You can also look in the 1871 and 1881 census. Both would show the family he was living with, place of birth and religion 00:51:50 Betty-Lu Burton: The Canadian Censuses has been indexed just like the USA Census Records.
Betty-Lu Burton: Unless he came with his parents, their name would not be listed on his border crossing record
01:02:25 Deb Andrew: Just don’t ask Siri if there are any airplanes over your location!
01:02:51 Betty-Lu Burton: Do you know when and where he was married? Marriage records might give you information on parents
01:06:40 Betty-Lu Burton: Have you considered that Herbert’s parents were not married and McAlister is his mother’s maiden name or McAlister is his father’s surname and Johnston his mother’s maiden name
01:11:03 Betty-Lu Burton: You might try looking for Herbert in the 1871 census to see if he is listed with his parents now or with another family. This might help decide if his parents may have been dead in 1861. It would also tell you if he is still with the same family
01:14:21 Betty-Lu Burton: Modern gun hunting starts Saturday here in Arkansas
01:19:16 Deb Andrew: You had the most interesting Fudge Pie Recipe.
01:25:38 Betty-Lu Burton: Stamp number is the page in the book, the image number is where it is (the page) on the microfilm
01:27:53 Betty-Lu Burton: Could you have looked in the land records to find out when the land was sold for the probate and would not that give you a better idea of when the probate happened?
01:30:12 Deb Andrew: I put surname first followed by state, county and then date.
1:34:09 Deb Andrew: I had a grand uncle who had to register for World War I will he was at Wetumpka State Prison, in Alabama.
01:34:21 Betty-Lu Burton: The register of prisoners should also be in the catalogue listed as item 2 on the microfilm
01:36:09 Betty-Lu Burton: some of the microfilms can have several different items that are not related, but each one is listed in the catalogue with the item number. Or at least it was like this before everything was digitized.
Participate in an unscripted, open discussion in which we consider WHAT are our personal rules for genealogy databases?
DOCUMENTATION – direct, indirect, authored work?
GPS – Genealogical Proof Standards
ONLINE TREES – Private or public (if 90% sure of relationships)
CITATIONS – DearMYRTLE’s “Ragu method” (it’s in there), cite first
ANALYSIS – is helped when we transcribe and cite well
DESKTOP SOFTWARE permits multiple databases
BACKUP – cloud, offsite, external hard drive
COMPARING ONLINE TREES – Ancestry, FindMyPast, MyHeritage, FamilySearch
19:01:47 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:02:16 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello Everyone
19:02:58 From Melissa Barker : Hello Deb, hope you are fully recovered!
19:03:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : My son once said he wanted a garage full of antique cars, you know those older than 1960. I and the other lady in the car at the time were both born before 1960.
19:05:41 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Old Alabama Family Photos
19:06:03 From Marian Koalski : Vegas?
19:06:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think any car older than 20 years is considered an antique
19:09:05 From Marian Koalski : I put possibles into my database with a first name of “maybe”
19:09:32 From Marian Koalski : That way I can see them as I research
19:09:55 From Marian Koalski : And I attach whatever sources I have to them
19:10:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : I put in the various larger databases I have received as well as the various family history books I have received as one of my sources. I then note if I had proved it wrong.
19:11:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : Some of these records are what others have used to start their research
19:14:51 From Marian Koalski : I don’t generally put “possibles” into online trees. That’s work, and I don’t invest that effort until I’ve figured things out more definitely.
19:15:34 From Betty-Lu Burton : Find them in all the censuses that they should be in, both Federal and State
19:17:51 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ.
19:21:14 From Marian Koalski : Yes, and sometimes I find an index entry for a name that begins with M on the page for C-names. Someone entered it but didn’t notice that he was working on the wrong page.
19:24:47 From Marian Koalski : You’re right, Russ, but this is in my Reunion database, which looks for a name anywhere in a name.
19:25:28 From Marian Koalski : Mine will read something like “maybe Richard Higbee”
19:26:09 From Marian Koalski : I do the ___ for names that I don’t know
19:28:49 From Marian Koalski : I don’t have a mike.
19:29:13 From Marian Koalski : Maybe my difference from Russ is that I don’t do automated searches.
19:34:02 From Marian Koalski : me
19:43:47 From Cousin Russ : FAMILY HISTORIAN 6 https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
19:43:48 From Cousin Russ : .
19:46:49 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I use One Drive for backups as well as an 8T external hard drive.
19:50:26 From Launa Droescher : I use to rotate Tape, then Zip backups. Some day I’m going to delete old backups
19:53:33 From Launa Droescher : that was tape in 1990s and a few years later zip
19:54:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : I know this is not correct, but it helps me to think of the cloud as the internet
19:56:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : because I have to use the internet to get to the cloud
19:56:44 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : When I backup my family file I direct the backup to One Drive, therefore not a copy. A copy of that backup then gets put onto my external hard drive.
20:09:58 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I hate to admit this but I didn’t know where my brother was buried. Yesterday I got a hint from MyHeritage showing me he’s buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Quite a find and surprise.
Should societies add a virtual component to regular meetings?
FindMyPast’s newest databases
Society newsletters – are yours digital?
10:00:51 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Crisp Morning to All.
10:01:06 From Deb Andrew : Good Morning
10:01:42 From Robbin Smith : Good mornng from wrm and humid miami
10:01:52 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good morning
10:01:55 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Good Afternoon from New Jersey
10:02:35 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I could talk about the new global family tree at find my past
10:02:59 From Rebecca Williams : Good afternoon from London, Ohio.
10:03:40 From Cousin Russ : FindMyPast’s friday blog post that Hilary explores
10:03:48 From Kathleen Daetsch : Good afternoon fron NYC
10:04:24 From grahamwalter : FindMyPast was originally 1837Online.com and started as part of the research arm of “Title Research” a heir hunter type of company.
10:07:09 From Randy Seaver : I use Findmypast for British Isles records – parish records, civil reg, census, and more. The RootsMagic WebHints for Findmypast are useful, but the search seems to be exact only. Using the search fields can be confusing and cumbersome.
10:10:45 From Randy Seaver : What’s been helpful to me in my WDYTYA project is the sets of baptisms and burials for a specific county that were developed from parish registers that are not in the IGI. An index, but helpful to find in FamilySearch digital microfilm.
10:18:51 From grahamwalter : double arrow mean can be sorted; one arrow indicates the sorted column
10:26:52 From Randy Seaver : My Chula vista society is not willing to shut out about 15 members from the newsletter so we mailo to them. Newsletter is 10 pages, so one 50 cent stamp and five sheets of paper. We don’t charge them extra for the mailing.
10:28:56 From Cousin Russ : https://chulavistagenealogysociety.wildapricot.org/
10:29:35 From Cousin Russ : San Diego Genealogical Society https://casdgs.org/
10:30:05 From Cousin Russ : Chula Vista Genealogical Society https://chulavistagenealogysociety.wildapricot.org
10:30:07 From Marian Koalski : Randy, Is there a particular officer, separate from the newsletter editor, who does the printing and mailing of newsletters?
10:30:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : There is still a need for the option of receiving a hard copy. there are still many people who do not have the internet
10:31:07 From John Laws to All panelists : LAWS FAMILY REGISTER sent newsletters 30 years ago now we blog www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com love to go live on Zoom
10:31:55 From cyndy Bray : Ancestors are from Taunton and New Bedford. I’m thinking this is probably not Westerm Mass?
10:32:18 From Randy Seaver : Marian, I do the printing and mailing as Newsletter Editor – takes 45 minutes on a Monday afternoon at the local UPS Store. We send 15 out and print 10-15 more for handouts at our meetings and events.
10:32:50 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : Publishing a newsletter is a major issue for smaller societies. I volunteer at the local historical society that publishes a quarterly newsletter. About half of the members want it in print.
10:33:07 From Marian Koalski : Randy, I’ve found that to be a discouraging chore for anyone who would otherwise agree to be the newsletter editor.
10:33:50 From Cousin Russ : http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com/
10:34:02 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : The society I belong to only g charges for the snail mail version of the newsletter,e-mail is free.
10:34:16 From Randy Seaver : When we only had the mail option before email, it was a challenge to send out 100 copies – 3 persons working for an hour to print, staple, fold, label, and stamp 100 copies. SDGS had a bigger team and their own copier to send out to 600 members.
10:34:32 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Cyndy Bray, you’re right. Taunton and New Bedford are Eastern Massachusetts. But they are each only about 80-90 miles away. We’re a small state!
10:35:11 From Marian Koalski : Yes, thank goodness more people are able to do email these days.
10:35:41 From Randy Seaver : Dave, is there a society in Plymouth and/or Bristol County? I know Barnstable has the Cape cod GS
10:37:05 From Janet Iles to All panelists : For our county historical society we publish two issues a year 16 to 24 pages each. Of 92 that go out 36 get them by email and 53 by mail and 3 get both. We send it to a printer. I as the one who puts it together, I go to the printers and then prepare the large envelopes and then mail them.
10:38:18 From Betty-Lu Burton : In Arkansas there are placcing without internet or poor internet connections
10:38:24 From Jacqueline Wilson : I belong to a society (Chicago Corral of the Westerners) – a lot of members do not own a computer!
10:38:35 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Also, many don’t like reading online.
10:38:46 From John Laws to All panelists : Most folk without internet can get it thro their labrary or city hall
10:39:14 From Marian Koalski : There is probably a Bristol County (Mass.) chapter of the Mass. Society of Genealogists…not sure whether they have a newsletter.
10:40:38 From Randy Seaver : The other problem with online is using columns – we do everything in one column for text
10:40:53 From Randy Seaver : amd photos and tables
10:41:11 From John Laws : We don’t want pretty stick, so stick to Times New Roman
10:41:28 From Denise Coughlin : Dave, do y’all do your newsletter in Word or Google Docs?
10:41:29 From Marcia Philbrick : Do you send newsletters out as PDF files or do you create a ‘newsletter’ in the email.
10:41:30 From Barbara woolston : To add another viewpoint, the only way I can read is online with a dark background. I have had retinal detachments in both eyes and I am so thankful I have this medium to read.
10:42:45 From Marcia Philbrick : Randy, did I hear you say you use a 14 size font
10:42:48 From Randy Seaver : We send the newsletter as a PDF va email. We use photos and color backgrounds.
10:42:48 From Rebecca Williams : Contrast is a big deal. I have seen websites that I could not read because they had a black or darkblue background and small yellow or white type.
10:43:42 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Color of the print is very important. Red and gray are hard to view. I can enlarge the page so it is easier to read.
10:43:56 From Marcia Philbrick : Randy, is your newsletter behind your pay wall or is it public when you post it on the web?
10:44:30 From Randy Seaver : The CVGS newsletter is beyond the pay wall for two months, and free to see by non=-members after two months. It’s a dumb policy IMHO
10:44:42 From Launa : Bad eyes plus font size makes a very big difference for me. even went to different keyboard because of bad eyes, Keyboard has back lighting,.
10:45:02 From John Laws : Sadly I don’t have a pay wall
10:47:00 From Robbin Smith : IMHO societies shoud only keep databases they may have created behind pay wall
10:47:25 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Before you change your website, please check with someone who is visual limited. Some new changes block us out. Watch the color of print. No red on pink.
10:47:32 From Jim Everhart : Here is our Current that was mailed today, https://smhstn.org/ Members can download any past Journal, andthe PDF is now searchable
10:48:06 From Rebecca Williams : Robin, I completely agree. Newsletters shouldn’t be hidden behind pay walls.
10:48:18 From Janet Iles to All panelists : Our newsletter is a benefit of membership. For upcoming events etc. the historical society uses its website and Facebook to advertise events as well as the year’s meetings are advertized in a brochure that is put into libraries and cultural venues. Our newsletter is more of than just news but it includes articles.
10:48:53 From Valerie Lisk : Couldn’t John do a GoFundMe page, or Patheon to bring in enough money to pay for internet, phone etc?
10:48:56 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Good point, JoAnn. Fortunately, I’m very sensitive to readability. Thanks for underscoring the fact that not everyone have perfect 20/20 vision! including me, by the way…
10:49:03 From Hilary Gadsby : Many societies have members only areas but usually for access to records not newsletters advertising events.
10:49:09 From Randy Seaver : JoAnn – thanks for that input. I’ve never heard that before. apparently, our CVGS members don’t have a problem or I would have heard about it. Is red on white background OK? What about bluel inks on white background?
10:49:20 From Marian Koalski : Jim, that’s a good-looking site.
10:50:34 From John Laws : Used to have 150 people behind a payway
10:50:40 From Jim Everhart : Consider a membership should offer bennefits for your membership helps fund= access to extra material.
10:50:56 From Hilary Gadsby : I get society journals from the societies that I belong to some are just online.
10:50:57 From Jim Everhart : Thanks
10:53:21 From Marian Koalski : Making queries available to more people increases the value of a membership
10:53:58 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Randy:If you use a dark background watch the type of font (letter close together is hard to read). Black background with red print is very hard to read.
10:54:06 From June Butka : That looks like the Colby Asscciation Newsletter I recieve.
10:56:34 From John Laws : Hoping to get an interview on Next Gen more cousin bait co I got loads of US content just take a look at the blog just Google LAWS FAMILY REGISTER
10:57:37 From Marian Koalski : A newsletter editor can put clickable links into PDFs.
10:57:56 From John Laws : So much more interactive than a printed Newsletter
10:59:33 From Deb Andrew : I can see Pike”s Peak from my house.
11:00:02 From Randy Seaver : JoAnn, thanks. I use white and light pastel backgrounds becuase I have to make black and white printouts. I guess i’m OK.
11:00:04 From June Butka : Well done Dave carrying the ball so well.
11:00:45 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : randy’s topic is next
11:03:30 From Marian Koalski : Do you need a skills segment of each meeting or each newsletter?
11:04:14 From June Butka : Up state New York would is my son in laws line.
11:04:27 From Randy Seaver : The Skills from 10 years ago are different from those required now. Think about DNA, Digital microfilm, Searching databases, Family trees, Hints, etc.
11:04:43 From Marian Koalski : Yes, indeed, Randy!
11:04:55 From Cousin Russ : https://www.nergc.org/2019-conference/
11:05:23 From Randy Seaver : Webinars, Podcasts, YouTube, Google, blogs, Facebook, etc.
11:05:42 From Cousin Russ : https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/a-maiden-name-for-veldora-seaver-1857.html
11:09:51 From John Laws : Thats it Get to the original record not just the transcription
11:11:58 From John Laws : Thats what its all about Randy
11:14:04 From June Butka : cabotcandy on 6/26/2014 this is what comes up when you click on submitted by on Veldora Death certificate hint.
11:15:10 From Marian Koalski : I just tried clicking on the blue “Veldora Seaver” name in the summary of the death certificate on Ancestry. It does give the username of the person who posted the corrected name, and it is also clickable.
11:15:12 From June Butka : I did that this morning. I match my 3rd great grandfather.
11:15:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : June that looks like the username and possibly the date the alternate name was added
11:15:42 From June Butka : 14% with one photo and 20 % for another photo
11:17:27 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Compare-a Face is a great way to compare your face to an unknown person in a family picture. I used it to compare a picture of my great grandfather to my grandfather and dad. They all looked alike when young.
11:18:01 From June Butka : Correct Betty. The alternate name person is who you want to check of they are family. ie “Cousin bait.”
11:18:16 From June Butka : under discovery
11:18:20 From Valerie Lisk : If you have two photos and you don’t know who they are, will it tell you if they are related?
11:18:31 From Randy Seaver : Janqueline, not really, it’s one big tree. You can use FS Family Tree to help you find ancestors of DNA matches.
11:18:42 From Marian Koalski : I think you need the link that was in the email from FamilySearch
11:18:51 From Randy Seaver : Sorry, Jacqueline, darn figners.
11:19:07 From grahamwalter : It’s on the Discovery page
11:19:11 From June Butka : https://www.familysearch.org/discovery/
11:19:24 From June Butka : Discovery
11:19:42 From Molly McKinley : discovery/compare
11:19:55 From June Butka : googled familysearch discovery or under gallery
11:19:56 From John Laws : My Great Grandfather LAWS looks more like Russ than me, tho’ I have one of my Grandfathers grandfather brother signs his name not unlike me
11:20:09 From Doris Haskell : Is it an app?
11:20:09 From Jacqueline Wilson : Go up a little bit on the screen you were just on.
11:20:54 From Molly McKinley : maybe they only send it to those who have a tree online there
11:21:25 From Marian Koalski : It might be just a temporary offering
11:22:15 From Jacqueline Wilson : It is on that page at the top!!!!
11:24:01 From Randy Seaver : My top match is my grandmother with 50%!
PODCASTS How many attendees are into podcasts?
11:24:52 From Marian Koalski : me
11:24:55 From grahamwalter : I do
11:24:58 From Robbin Smith : i listen to them
11:25:02 From June Butka : I do.
11:25:03 From Valerie Lisk : I do.
11:25:06 From Molly McKinley : 3 or 4 times a week
11:25:09 From Denise Coughlin : All the time! I listen at work and on my LONG commute!
11:25:12 From Jim Everhart : all the time
11:25:16 From Pamela Wells : yes, I do
11:25:17 From Marian Koalski : Actually I listen to them on my computer
11:25:29 From Jacqueline Wilson : I don’t. For some reason it reminds me of talk radio, which I dislike.
11:25:31 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Gems
11:25:38 From Marian Koalski : Genealogy Guys
11:26:01 From Robbin Smith : extreme genes
11:26:04 From Valerie Lisk : Extreme Genes
11:26:15 From Randy Seaver : I listen occasionally – I like Extreme Genes
11:26:32 From Launa : used to download then burn to CD so I could listen when driving long distance,. Have you back to [1998?]
11:26:46 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Guys
11:26:46 From Robbin Smith : ancesteral findings
11:26:53 From Randy Seaver : An hour is too long to listen. I’ll listen to 5-10 minutes
11:26:54 From Crystal Toenjes : I love podcasts for while I’m cooking or folding laundry.
11:27:19 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Guys Podcast with George Morgan and Drew Smith
11:27:22 From Randy Seaver : Lisa Louise Cooke
11:27:40 From Hilary Gadsby : I rarely listen now but need to start doing this for my journey to and from work
11:27:45 From Rachel Evans : I listen to podcasts while I’m doing things around the house. It’s good because you don’t have to sit still. I love Forget Me Not.
11:28:10 From Cousin Russ : Lori Lyn Price did a masterful job this week putting the human face on Hub History’s episode about the 1918 flu pandemic. “On August 27, 1918 Boston became acquainted with the epidemic that has gone down in history as the “Spanish flu.” A more accurate name for this disease outbreak might be the “Boston flu,” because our city is where this influenza variant mutated and first turned truly deadly.” http://www.hubhistory.com/episodes/pandemic-1918-episode-95/
11:28:20 From Pamela Wells : Cyndi’s List has a list
11:28:22 From Randy Seaver : I list the ones that have a blog post about them in my Genealogy News Bytes on Tuesday and Friday
11:28:32 From Robbin Smith : gnealogy news
11:28:52 From Robbin Smith : family tree magazne
11:29:15 From Launa : yes at hobby lobby
11:29:26 From Hilary Gadsby : I have Genealogy Gems app on my phone
11:29:54 From John Laws : https://www.radioshack.com/
11:30:11 From June Butka : Cydi’s list gives a list of Genealogy podcasts and other tidbits about them https://www.cyndislist.com/podcasts/general/
11:30:31 From Randy Seaver : Research Like a Pro is new podcast –
[from Family Locket] https://familylocket.com/category/research-tips/podcast/
11:30:41 From Dave Robison : I gave her the story of my great grandfather who died as a result of the pandemic. He wasn’t sick he was hit by a train on his way to pick up a nurse to take care of his household!
11:30:43 From Hilary Gadsby : My gt unle died of the flu his wife was expecting their youngest child
11:30:52 From Jacqueline Wilson : Chicago still has Radio Shacks!
11:31:21 From June Butka : Sending Hugs duck tape.
11:33:38 From Marian Koalski : Hilary, mine too!
11:34:59 From Jacqueline Wilson : I already signed for that!
11:35:37 From Hilary Gadsby : I will be away next week
11:36:21 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you, Myrtle, take care and continue improving. And, thank you Cousin Russ.
11:37:41 From Cheri Hudson Passey : Good to see you are feeling better!!