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Society newsletters – are yours digital?
10:00:51 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Crisp Morning to All.
10:01:06 From Deb Andrew : Good Morning
10:01:42 From Robbin Smith : Good mornng from wrm and humid miami
10:01:52 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good morning
10:01:55 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Good Afternoon from New Jersey
10:02:35 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I could talk about the new global family tree at find my past
10:02:59 From Rebecca Williams : Good afternoon from London, Ohio.
10:03:40 From Cousin Russ : FindMyPast’s friday blog post that Hilary explores
10:03:48 From Kathleen Daetsch : Good afternoon fron NYC
10:04:24 From grahamwalter : FindMyPast was originally 1837Online.com and started as part of the research arm of “Title Research” a heir hunter type of company.
10:07:09 From Randy Seaver : I use Findmypast for British Isles records – parish records, civil reg, census, and more. The RootsMagic WebHints for Findmypast are useful, but the search seems to be exact only. Using the search fields can be confusing and cumbersome.
10:10:45 From Randy Seaver : What’s been helpful to me in my WDYTYA project is the sets of baptisms and burials for a specific county that were developed from parish registers that are not in the IGI. An index, but helpful to find in FamilySearch digital microfilm.
10:18:51 From grahamwalter : double arrow mean can be sorted; one arrow indicates the sorted column
10:26:52 From Randy Seaver : My Chula vista society is not willing to shut out about 15 members from the newsletter so we mailo to them. Newsletter is 10 pages, so one 50 cent stamp and five sheets of paper. We don’t charge them extra for the mailing.
10:28:56 From Cousin Russ : https://chulavistagenealogysociety.wildapricot.org/
10:29:35 From Cousin Russ : San Diego Genealogical Society https://casdgs.org/
10:30:05 From Cousin Russ : Chula Vista Genealogical Society https://chulavistagenealogysociety.wildapricot.org
10:30:07 From Marian Koalski : Randy, Is there a particular officer, separate from the newsletter editor, who does the printing and mailing of newsletters?
10:30:24 From Betty-Lu Burton : There is still a need for the option of receiving a hard copy. there are still many people who do not have the internet
10:31:07 From John Laws to All panelists : LAWS FAMILY REGISTER sent newsletters 30 years ago now we blog www.lawsandlawes.blogspot.com love to go live on Zoom
10:31:55 From cyndy Bray : Ancestors are from Taunton and New Bedford. I’m thinking this is probably not Westerm Mass?
10:32:18 From Randy Seaver : Marian, I do the printing and mailing as Newsletter Editor – takes 45 minutes on a Monday afternoon at the local UPS Store. We send 15 out and print 10-15 more for handouts at our meetings and events.
10:32:50 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : Publishing a newsletter is a major issue for smaller societies. I volunteer at the local historical society that publishes a quarterly newsletter. About half of the members want it in print.
10:33:07 From Marian Koalski : Randy, I’ve found that to be a discouraging chore for anyone who would otherwise agree to be the newsletter editor.
10:33:50 From Cousin Russ : http://lawsandlawes.blogspot.com/
10:34:02 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : The society I belong to only g charges for the snail mail version of the newsletter,e-mail is free.
10:34:16 From Randy Seaver : When we only had the mail option before email, it was a challenge to send out 100 copies – 3 persons working for an hour to print, staple, fold, label, and stamp 100 copies. SDGS had a bigger team and their own copier to send out to 600 members.
10:34:32 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Cyndy Bray, you’re right. Taunton and New Bedford are Eastern Massachusetts. But they are each only about 80-90 miles away. We’re a small state!
10:35:11 From Marian Koalski : Yes, thank goodness more people are able to do email these days.
10:35:41 From Randy Seaver : Dave, is there a society in Plymouth and/or Bristol County? I know Barnstable has the Cape cod GS
10:37:05 From Janet Iles to All panelists : For our county historical society we publish two issues a year 16 to 24 pages each. Of 92 that go out 36 get them by email and 53 by mail and 3 get both. We send it to a printer. I as the one who puts it together, I go to the printers and then prepare the large envelopes and then mail them.
10:38:18 From Betty-Lu Burton : In Arkansas there are placcing without internet or poor internet connections
10:38:24 From Jacqueline Wilson : I belong to a society (Chicago Corral of the Westerners) – a lot of members do not own a computer!
10:38:35 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Also, many don’t like reading online.
10:38:46 From John Laws to All panelists : Most folk without internet can get it thro their labrary or city hall
10:39:14 From Marian Koalski : There is probably a Bristol County (Mass.) chapter of the Mass. Society of Genealogists…not sure whether they have a newsletter.
10:40:38 From Randy Seaver : The other problem with online is using columns – we do everything in one column for text
10:40:53 From Randy Seaver : amd photos and tables
10:41:11 From John Laws : We don’t want pretty stick, so stick to Times New Roman
10:41:28 From Denise Coughlin : Dave, do y’all do your newsletter in Word or Google Docs?
10:41:29 From Marcia Philbrick : Do you send newsletters out as PDF files or do you create a ‘newsletter’ in the email.
10:41:30 From Barbara woolston : To add another viewpoint, the only way I can read is online with a dark background. I have had retinal detachments in both eyes and I am so thankful I have this medium to read.
10:42:45 From Marcia Philbrick : Randy, did I hear you say you use a 14 size font
10:42:48 From Randy Seaver : We send the newsletter as a PDF va email. We use photos and color backgrounds.
10:42:48 From Rebecca Williams : Contrast is a big deal. I have seen websites that I could not read because they had a black or darkblue background and small yellow or white type.
10:43:42 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Color of the print is very important. Red and gray are hard to view. I can enlarge the page so it is easier to read.
10:43:56 From Marcia Philbrick : Randy, is your newsletter behind your pay wall or is it public when you post it on the web?
10:44:30 From Randy Seaver : The CVGS newsletter is beyond the pay wall for two months, and free to see by non=-members after two months. It’s a dumb policy IMHO
10:44:42 From Launa : Bad eyes plus font size makes a very big difference for me. even went to different keyboard because of bad eyes, Keyboard has back lighting,.
10:45:02 From John Laws : Sadly I don’t have a pay wall
10:47:00 From Robbin Smith : IMHO societies shoud only keep databases they may have created behind pay wall
10:47:25 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Before you change your website, please check with someone who is visual limited. Some new changes block us out. Watch the color of print. No red on pink.
10:47:32 From Jim Everhart : Here is our Current that was mailed today, https://smhstn.org/ Members can download any past Journal, andthe PDF is now searchable
10:48:06 From Rebecca Williams : Robin, I completely agree. Newsletters shouldn’t be hidden behind pay walls.
10:48:18 From Janet Iles to All panelists : Our newsletter is a benefit of membership. For upcoming events etc. the historical society uses its website and Facebook to advertise events as well as the year’s meetings are advertized in a brochure that is put into libraries and cultural venues. Our newsletter is more of than just news but it includes articles.
10:48:53 From Valerie Lisk : Couldn’t John do a GoFundMe page, or Patheon to bring in enough money to pay for internet, phone etc?
10:48:56 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Good point, JoAnn. Fortunately, I’m very sensitive to readability. Thanks for underscoring the fact that not everyone have perfect 20/20 vision! including me, by the way…
10:49:03 From Hilary Gadsby : Many societies have members only areas but usually for access to records not newsletters advertising events.
10:49:09 From Randy Seaver : JoAnn – thanks for that input. I’ve never heard that before. apparently, our CVGS members don’t have a problem or I would have heard about it. Is red on white background OK? What about bluel inks on white background?
10:49:20 From Marian Koalski : Jim, that’s a good-looking site.
10:50:34 From John Laws : Used to have 150 people behind a payway
10:50:40 From Jim Everhart : Consider a membership should offer bennefits for your membership helps fund= access to extra material.
10:50:56 From Hilary Gadsby : I get society journals from the societies that I belong to some are just online.
10:50:57 From Jim Everhart : Thanks
10:53:21 From Marian Koalski : Making queries available to more people increases the value of a membership
10:53:58 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Randy:If you use a dark background watch the type of font (letter close together is hard to read). Black background with red print is very hard to read.
10:54:06 From June Butka : That looks like the Colby Asscciation Newsletter I recieve.
10:56:34 From John Laws : Hoping to get an interview on Next Gen more cousin bait co I got loads of US content just take a look at the blog just Google LAWS FAMILY REGISTER
10:57:37 From Marian Koalski : A newsletter editor can put clickable links into PDFs.
10:57:56 From John Laws : So much more interactive than a printed Newsletter
10:59:33 From Deb Andrew : I can see Pike”s Peak from my house.
11:00:02 From Randy Seaver : JoAnn, thanks. I use white and light pastel backgrounds becuase I have to make black and white printouts. I guess i’m OK.
11:00:04 From June Butka : Well done Dave carrying the ball so well.
11:00:45 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : randy’s topic is next
11:03:30 From Marian Koalski : Do you need a skills segment of each meeting or each newsletter?
11:04:14 From June Butka : Up state New York would is my son in laws line.
11:04:27 From Randy Seaver : The Skills from 10 years ago are different from those required now. Think about DNA, Digital microfilm, Searching databases, Family trees, Hints, etc.
11:04:43 From Marian Koalski : Yes, indeed, Randy!
11:04:55 From Cousin Russ : https://www.nergc.org/2019-conference/
11:05:23 From Randy Seaver : Webinars, Podcasts, YouTube, Google, blogs, Facebook, etc.
11:05:42 From Cousin Russ : https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/a-maiden-name-for-veldora-seaver-1857.html
11:09:51 From John Laws : Thats it Get to the original record not just the transcription
11:11:58 From John Laws : Thats what its all about Randy
11:14:04 From June Butka : cabotcandy on 6/26/2014 this is what comes up when you click on submitted by on Veldora Death certificate hint.
11:15:10 From Marian Koalski : I just tried clicking on the blue “Veldora Seaver” name in the summary of the death certificate on Ancestry. It does give the username of the person who posted the corrected name, and it is also clickable.
11:15:12 From June Butka : I did that this morning. I match my 3rd great grandfather.
11:15:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : June that looks like the username and possibly the date the alternate name was added
11:15:42 From June Butka : 14% with one photo and 20 % for another photo
11:17:27 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Compare-a Face is a great way to compare your face to an unknown person in a family picture. I used it to compare a picture of my great grandfather to my grandfather and dad. They all looked alike when young.
11:18:01 From June Butka : Correct Betty. The alternate name person is who you want to check of they are family. ie “Cousin bait.”
11:18:16 From June Butka : under discovery
11:18:20 From Valerie Lisk : If you have two photos and you don’t know who they are, will it tell you if they are related?
11:18:31 From Randy Seaver : Janqueline, not really, it’s one big tree. You can use FS Family Tree to help you find ancestors of DNA matches.
11:18:42 From Marian Koalski : I think you need the link that was in the email from FamilySearch
11:18:51 From Randy Seaver : Sorry, Jacqueline, darn figners.
11:19:07 From grahamwalter : It’s on the Discovery page
11:19:11 From June Butka : https://www.familysearch.org/discovery/
11:19:24 From June Butka : Discovery
11:19:42 From Molly McKinley : discovery/compare
11:19:55 From June Butka : googled familysearch discovery or under gallery
11:19:56 From John Laws : My Great Grandfather LAWS looks more like Russ than me, tho’ I have one of my Grandfathers grandfather brother signs his name not unlike me
11:20:09 From Doris Haskell : Is it an app?
11:20:09 From Jacqueline Wilson : Go up a little bit on the screen you were just on.
11:20:54 From Molly McKinley : maybe they only send it to those who have a tree online there
11:21:25 From Marian Koalski : It might be just a temporary offering
11:22:15 From Jacqueline Wilson : It is on that page at the top!!!!
11:24:01 From Randy Seaver : My top match is my grandmother with 50%!
PODCASTS How many attendees are into podcasts?
11:24:52 From Marian Koalski : me
11:24:55 From grahamwalter : I do
11:24:58 From Robbin Smith : i listen to them
11:25:02 From June Butka : I do.
11:25:03 From Valerie Lisk : I do.
11:25:06 From Molly McKinley : 3 or 4 times a week
11:25:09 From Denise Coughlin : All the time! I listen at work and on my LONG commute!
11:25:12 From Jim Everhart : all the time
11:25:16 From Pamela Wells : yes, I do
11:25:17 From Marian Koalski : Actually I listen to them on my computer
11:25:29 From Jacqueline Wilson : I don’t. For some reason it reminds me of talk radio, which I dislike.
11:25:31 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Gems
11:25:38 From Marian Koalski : Genealogy Guys
11:26:01 From Robbin Smith : extreme genes
11:26:04 From Valerie Lisk : Extreme Genes
11:26:15 From Randy Seaver : I listen occasionally – I like Extreme Genes
11:26:32 From Launa : used to download then burn to CD so I could listen when driving long distance,. Have you back to [1998?]
11:26:46 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Guys
11:26:46 From Robbin Smith : ancesteral findings
11:26:53 From Randy Seaver : An hour is too long to listen. I’ll listen to 5-10 minutes
11:26:54 From Crystal Toenjes : I love podcasts for while I’m cooking or folding laundry.
11:27:19 From Pamela Wells : Genealogy Guys Podcast with George Morgan and Drew Smith
11:27:22 From Randy Seaver : Lisa Louise Cooke
11:27:40 From Hilary Gadsby : I rarely listen now but need to start doing this for my journey to and from work
11:27:45 From Rachel Evans : I listen to podcasts while I’m doing things around the house. It’s good because you don’t have to sit still. I love Forget Me Not.
11:28:10 From Cousin Russ : Lori Lyn Price did a masterful job this week putting the human face on Hub History’s episode about the 1918 flu pandemic. “On August 27, 1918 Boston became acquainted with the epidemic that has gone down in history as the “Spanish flu.” A more accurate name for this disease outbreak might be the “Boston flu,” because our city is where this influenza variant mutated and first turned truly deadly.” http://www.hubhistory.com/episodes/pandemic-1918-episode-95/
11:28:20 From Pamela Wells : Cyndi’s List has a list
11:28:22 From Randy Seaver : I list the ones that have a blog post about them in my Genealogy News Bytes on Tuesday and Friday
11:28:32 From Robbin Smith : gnealogy news
11:28:52 From Robbin Smith : family tree magazne
11:29:15 From Launa : yes at hobby lobby
11:29:26 From Hilary Gadsby : I have Genealogy Gems app on my phone
11:29:54 From John Laws : https://www.radioshack.com/
11:30:11 From June Butka : Cydi’s list gives a list of Genealogy podcasts and other tidbits about them https://www.cyndislist.com/podcasts/general/
11:30:31 From Randy Seaver : Research Like a Pro is new podcast –
[from Family Locket] https://familylocket.com/category/research-tips/podcast/
11:30:41 From Dave Robison : I gave her the story of my great grandfather who died as a result of the pandemic. He wasn’t sick he was hit by a train on his way to pick up a nurse to take care of his household!
11:30:43 From Hilary Gadsby : My gt unle died of the flu his wife was expecting their youngest child
11:30:52 From Jacqueline Wilson : Chicago still has Radio Shacks!
11:31:21 From June Butka : Sending Hugs duck tape.
11:33:38 From Marian Koalski : Hilary, mine too!
11:34:59 From Jacqueline Wilson : I already signed for that!
11:35:37 From Hilary Gadsby : I will be away next week
11:36:21 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you, Myrtle, take care and continue improving. And, thank you Cousin Russ.
11:37:41 From Cheri Hudson Passey : Good to see you are feeling better!!
09:51:26 From Shelley Murphy : Good afternoon!
10:01:06 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group tackles Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.)
10:01:33 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
10:05:16 From Melissa Barker : Hello All, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is in the house!
10:06:32 From Molly McKinley : Geocities website..yes all gone now…
10:07:20 From Cousin Russ : How-to quickly convert Gmail email into PDF https://blog.timesunion.com/tech/2359/how-to-quickly-convert-gmail-email-into-pdf/
10:07:23 From marian koalski : What do you do when a message refers to more than one relative?
10:08:09 From marian koalski : I should have said, “How do you name the PDF” when it refers to more than one relative?
10:09:52 From marian koalski : I’m facing the question with Aunt Pearl’s letters from 1976
10:10:11 From Molly McKinley : I found some 1998 AOL forum notes…fun to read but did not help much.
10:10:24 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : So is the item an EVENT on the ancestor’s time line?
10:10:26 From Melinda Culpon : I handle multiple by duplicating the information – can name it for each
10:10:48 From Rebecca Williams : You could save the pdf more than once, into each family it refers to.
10:11:41 From Shelley Murphy : I would probably put it under notes and questions, but it could have its own line with the date received depends on the info received. great question.
10:11:46 From marian koalski : I finally have settled on one name for each message but linking to it from citations on all those people
10:13:56 From Cyndy Bray : If you forward email to Evernote, does the attachment go with it?
10:14:41 From Cousin Russ : Combined AmericanGen Chapter 8 “Successful Correspondence” Homework https://drive.google.com/file/d/16SWjVvGi0fQwLmoldMl2YrI70k5Fz90E/view?usp=sharing
10:14:55 From Danine Cozzens : Thanks, Russ!
10:16:29 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Facebook and message board posts also come to mind. (In lieu of handwritten correspondence.)
10:18:56 From Shelley Murphy : the glasses are interesting to pose for a picture
10:37:52 From Shelley Murphy : they don’t do it anymore but I using social media is probably on the table
10:38:14 From Launa Droescher : I have the spelling book from that set that my father gave me years ago. My children kept trying to run off with it.
10:42:10 From Melissa Barker : Be nice to archivists, be specific please.
10:43:48 From Maria Tegtmeier : Any suggestions on corresponding with foreign genealogical societies or archives?
10:44:41 From Cary Bright : I have trouble with citations from things I request copies of. I include the request that they include the roll or book, newspaper, But rarely get all the specifics like page number, col number etc. You think when you pay for something you could get it! Thanks to the volunteers who run these programs, but please go the extra mile with ESM type citation info. I can format it!!
10:44:42 From Valerie Lisk : I have used the online request form and sent a prepaid snailmail request with an SASE to a particular county library, only to recieve a response when I made a phone call.
10:46:13 From marian koalski : See FamilySearch Wiki’s word list for other countries, like Poland Word List. Frequently it will have a sample letter form
10:47:33 From Cousin Russ : Letter Writing Guide for Genealogy https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Letter_Writing_Guide_for_Genealogy
10:48:07 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Great fix Cheri… fill in the blank!
10:49:21 From Leah Smith : I use Google Translate to help with Polish language and then try to have someone from a Polish genealogy group review. Concise language, and good etiquette are important. I find sometimes charts can be valuable. [ See Google Translate: https://translate.google.com ]
10:49:55 From Valerie Lisk : When I make a request from an online index, I cite the information on the index.
10:51:06 From Melinda Culpon : Once again – older genealogy books can show how to request information. I know I have found older Czech research books are still valid sources
10:54:00 From Shelley Murphy : twitter too
10:55:22 From Melissa Barker : Be consistent!
10:56:57 From DearMYRTLE: Include names, dates, places in your queries.
10:56:57 From Maria Tegtmeier : Sometimes I do a “screenshot” when I need to save something that I have on my phone screen. This might work for twitter.
Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson (Ol’ Myrt received hers as she was typing this post. YAY!)
More to the Fudge family photos story
Randy’s family photos – let’s remember to take them. (Ol’ Myrt had a big family gathering yesterday and totally forgot to take a single shot.)
Ireland Valuation Books Translator
Accessing digital land records at FamilySearch that are not indexed with Randy Seaver’s best advice.
Wisconsin Area Research Centers
10:01:14 From John Laws : Good to be with you guys from a wet Scotland
10:01:17 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : Good Morning to all from HOT California.
10:01:48 From Graham Walter : Overcast but dry down near London
10:01:58 From Cousin Russ : From Dick Eastman’s blog “A Fort Wayne, Indiana, City Councilman Proposes Eliminating the Annual Budget for the Allen County Public Library” https://blog.eogn.com/2018/08/13/a-fort-wayne-indiana-city-councilman-proposes-eliminating-the-annual-budget-for-the-allen-county-public-library/amp/
10:02:11 From Marian Koalski : Whoa!
10:02:38 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ. Ask the downtown hotels and restaurants.
10:03:15 From Betty-Lu Burton : Does he not realize how many dollars they receive in people visiting the library? I am sure it is more then the annual budget
10:03:28 From Deb Andrew : They tried to do that here, did it for awhile, closed several branches. Then they had to reopen them all over again and buy new books.
10:03:31 From Cousin Russ : Federation of Genealogy Societies https://www.fgsconference.org
10:03:44 From Marian Koalski : The councilman is obviously not in touch with how much internet access the library provides to the public, including e-book borrowings.
10:03:53 From Abbie McDonough : My local library is not just used for reading. For example I go to craft meetings at my local library.
10:04:26 From Barbara LaMarche : Indiana has always been one of the most “Genea” friendly states.
10:04:40 From Marcia Philbrick : There are other public libraries encountering this exact same issue — do away with the annual budget. Even though these aren’t major genealogical libraries, they still likely have resources that genealogists rely on.
10:06:35 From Marian Koalski : Around here, the library is where we meet for book groups, kids’ classes in STEM, computer clubs, genealogy clubs, art displays, musical performances….
10:06:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : My local library provides many activities for children to help with learning and social skills
10:07:28 From Bill West : We had a similiar situation here. Someone wanted to reduce the library budget because “nobody reads anymore” The budget was kept the same and the town has built a new library,
10:08:29 From Marian Koalski : Who is the councilman’s opponent in the upcoming elections?
10:08:32 From Gloria Deison : My local library holds the historical town archive! (morning / evening all!)
10:08:51 From bobbi to All panelists : maybe this was good timing. they can make their presence known.
10:09:09 From Valerie Lisk to All panelists : MAAGI meets at Allen County annually. [Midwest African American Genealogy Institute]
10:09:55 From Yvonne Demoskoff : As an example, when my husband and I were in SLC this February for RootsTech, we spent money locally at restaurants, the mall, souvenirs, and at the planetarium
10:10:11 From Rachel Evans : They don’t understand people are on fixed incomes and can’t afford to buy books on Amazon. My mother is and she is at the library several times a week to get books.
10:10:12 From Hilary Gadsby : Too many small libraries get closed. We will end up with no place to find the recrds if this was to happen.
10:10:55 From Marian Koalski : I suppose that libraries could be viewed as subversive if politicians are afraid of having citizens talk to each other.
10:11:02 From Betty-Lu Burton : The best way is to show them that the library is more than just a book depository and can provide customers to local businesses
10:11:07 From Hilary Gadsby : Our libraries hold a lot more than books.
10:11:24 From Michelle Minner : Unfortunately I don’t think that people that live outside of the local area would have any “say” or vote in the issue. It has to be a community effort…and it has to be a grass roots activism (in my opinion)
10:13:37 From Marian Koalski : Dollars from outside of Allen County could be a form of activism.
10:14:00 From Bill West : One likes to think logic would prevailabout the library, but given recent history I am aconcerned.
10:14:44 From Melissa Barker : I am here listening in but have a cold, home from work.
10:15:07 From Marian Koalski : Remember gifts to local libraries when you write obituaries.
10:15:08 From Betty-Lu Burton : Melissa get better soon.
10:16:30 From Dave Robison : Letters from the Dead – the latest Jefferson Tate genealogy mystery book by Steve Robinson
10:31:03 From Marian Koalski : We need someone who is the Professional Photo Reminder in the family, who will interrupt when needed to get it done.
10:32:03 From Cousin Russ : Land records – “Finding David Auble’s Land Records in Sussex County, New Jersey” by Randy Seaverhttps://www.geneamusings.com/2018/08/finding-david-aubles-land-records-in.html
10:33:12 From Doris Haskell : I have found great treasures in land records. Surprises. Been thinking about getting back into them again.
10:33:27 From Michelle Minner : Thank you, Randy! woo hoo! I am going to search the catalog for land records for my family! WOW
10:34:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : I found my 2 great grandfather’s estate packet recently on FamilySearch. Unfortunately the estate records only mentioned his second family and nothing about his first family. I come through the oldest daughter of the first family. Granted by the time he died all his children from the first family had married and had children of their own.
10:36:47 From John Laws : From an Will for my grandfather published in South Africa as he was the director in the London Office of Stutterfords of Jo’Burg I found two cousins unknown to me – EXCITED.
10:37:02 From Doris Haskell : Do you know if any land records have been indexed?
10:37:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is easier and faster to digitize a microfilm than to index it.
10:37:43 From June Butka : I found the index for Elijah Pease Probate docket 1 page 1210, unfortunately I can’t find the docket 1 record
10:39:57 From June Butka : Sometimes they fill in the pages at the end of a year with previous information from early times. Not always just the years listed.
10:41:58 From John Laws : Randy – You put me to shame
10:44:10 From Marcia Philbrick : Deeds are the one source that has helped me separate two men of the same name! I’m very thankful that the images are coming online.
10:44:13 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Absolutely!
10:44:55 From Doris Haskell : It was the grantee index that led me to the second married name of my female ancestor.
10:48:27 From Randy Seaver : Jay Verkler is who I was thinking about
10:48:44 From Betty-Lu Burton : Both WW I and WW II had 3 different draft cards.
10:49:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I found someone on CEF record at Ancestry and it has numerous pages
10:50:57 From Cousin Russ : Carol – please post your question here
10:52:53 From Marian Koalski : Judging by the excitement, Randy, I think your campaign for studying the browsable records on FamilySearch is succeeding … and needs to continue.
10:53:19 From Randy Seaver : Here is a link to Jay Verkler’s visionary keynote talk at RootsTech 2012 about FamilySearch viasion for the genea-future – https://www.geneamusings.com/2012/02/do-you-believe-familysearch-vision-of.html. Unfortunately, the video is no longer available
10:53:32 From DearMYRTLE : http://www.delawarecountypa.com/
10:53:34 From Molly McKinley : You also need to check more than one state if the heirs moved. My gggrandfather died in Alabama, his family moved to Arkansas. I found probate files in both states.
10:55:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : I heard they are aiming for next day posting of new digitized records
10:58:28 From Betty-Lu Burton : Meaning that when they get done filming with records currently being digitized around the world.
10:58:42 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : When you reach the county will index section of the catalogue, is there a way to know which deeds are digitized from the list ?
10:59:08 From Rachel Evans : The search catalog can also help you find offline records. I found some church records that are only viewable at Salt Lake. The catalog said where the records were located. It is 20 minutes down the road from me. I emailed the Archives and they told me they have more records that were not filmed.
10:59:30 From Doris Haskell to All panelists : Yes! That’s exactly how it worked for me.
11:02:08 From Marcia Philbrick : Some public libraries also provide access to the locked images. I’m 75 miles from a Family History Center and/or a public library with access. I appreciate the library access because it has longer hours.
11:03:37 From Marcia Philbrick : When Kansas records were filmed, the counties decided what would be filmed. Thus, not all county records have been filmed.
11:04:01 From Randi Patrick : For the people who have to travel a long distance, they could ask their local library if they would consider becoming a LDS affiliate.
11:04:08 From Hilary Gadsby : The school admission registers for some of my family are at the museum in the village so will not be digitised.
11:04:19 From Randy Seaver : The San Diego Reginoal FS Library is closed for remodeling for 6 months. They are taking out all of the books and microfilm machines, adding missionary offices and a Discovery Center.
11:04:48 From Barbara Gressel : When I was in Canada last year, I did a lot of research on land records. Some of the records were held in the local history center and they had been filmed my the Family History Center. THe rest of the records are held by Queen’s University and they have not been filmed. Didn’t have time to go to Queen’s . . . so sad. I guess I’ll have to go back.
11:04:51 From Cathy Naborowski : The Minnesota Genealogical Society just became an FHL Affiliate. Took about a month. Cannot see everything but most things. 11:05:32 From June Butka : Not all affiliates have the same available image as the Family History Library.
11:07:02 From Gloria Deison : yes, my church isn’t going to let them digitise. I’m there at the archive all the time, I know we have copies on CDs, but they won’t go on-line. Probably ever.
11:08:14 From Michelle Minner : I found the same thing (list of all the ships and ranks) my father had in the US Navy….the seaman logs are available form the FHL! You do have to read through them (not indexed) but I learned my father was washed off board during the Battle of Leyte in WWII…(we didn’t know about that!)
11:09:00 From Randy Seaver : John is describing genea-gasms in the dusty stacks!
11:09:21 From Marian Koalski : Yes, Randy!
11:11:20 From Marian Koalski : Michelle Minner, do you mean that the seaman logs are online at FamilySearch, or just at the FHL itself?
11:11:56 From Michelle Minner : Family Search Centers…I found the logs from WWII at the Family Center here in Tucson!
11:16:56 From Pat Kuhn : find my past and the Catholic records!!!!!!
11:17:03 From Marian Koalski : Lots of Penna & NJ church records (old and not-so-old) are in Historical Society of Penna’s collection offered on Ancestry.
11:17:49 From Marian Koalski : Gloria Deison, do you mean your local congregation or the whole denomination?
11:18:03 From Cousin Russ : https://www.findmypast.com/
11:18:41 From Gloria Deison : Those CDs were done by local researchers who donated their time so that we could have a backup, I feel the higher ups in the church are not interested (in archives, in genealogy, in opening their archives to share, but at least they have the actual archive open and I can go for others, too.)
11:18:55 From Cousin Russ : Historical Society of Pennsylvania https://hsp.org/
11:20:26 From Michelle Minner : WOW I love that County Map! Wish I had one like that for Missouri!
11:21:03 From Randy Seaver : We really need ALL of the record providers to keep adding record collections – competition is necessary to keep growing the opportunities. If only one organization was digitizing, we wouldn’t get new collections as fast as we are now.
11:21:09 From Cousin Russ : Did you know that the Society and the University of Wisconsin (UW) System cooperate in a network of Area Research Centers (ARCs) located at UW campus libraries throughout the state and at the Northern Great Lakes Visitor Center? Each Area Research Center serves a specific geographic region and you can access most collections from across the state and have them sent to your region from anywhere in the network. https://www.wisconsinhistory.org/Records/Article/CS4000
11:21:41 From Cousin Russ : The Legal Genealogist Blog https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/08/11/perfect-information/
11:23:50 From John Laws : Hi Debbie good to have you join us
11:24:59 From Betty-Lu Burton : A compilation is a good starting point, but is just a starting point.
11:25:23 From Devon Lee : I’m of the opinion all genealogy research should be peer reviewed. So I would vet the books if it was a project I was interested in.
11:27:53 From June Butka : One of the points Judy Russell, made was that the entries into the Bible were well before the date of the Bible. Bible Date is a important, not only for the births but the person who was supposed to own the Bible.
11:29:17 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, Dear Myrtle, My looming question. What if you can”t find a document other a authored work?
11:30:03 From Randy Seaver : Barbara, I source the authored work and continue to look for a record.
11:30:05 From John Laws : I put on my blog every day the following statement “The content provided on this site is not guaranteed to be error free It is always advised that you consult original records.”
11:32:18 From Randi Patrick : I have gone to many garage and book sales and I see old bibles on sale. So I wouldn’t count the dates of birth, etc., that are listed as any type of proof; the information could’ve been listed way after. It’s chain of custody should be taken into consideration.
11:32:19 From June Butka : I’m not faulting Judy Either.She followed GPS. [The Genealogical Proof Standard is most recently codified by the Board for Certification of Genealogists in their book Genealogy Standards, fiftieth-anniversary edition (Nashville, TN: Ancestry, 2014).
11:32:21 From Marian Koalski : Isn’t that what the source fields are for when we fill in blanks in genealogy programs?
11:34:36 From Devon Lee : Source fields are great, but it’s great to go further, just like you said.
11:34:43 From Randy Seaver : Some genealogy programs have fields for comments or research notes.
DearMYRTLE’s *very* distant cousin Pinky hosted this webinar in response to what Miss Peggy Laurentzen heard at the recent BYU genealogy conference. Apparently, FamilySearch reported at the rate we’re indexing it would take 150 years to catch up with what has been digitized. Practical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. This webinar discusses the specific guidelines for New York Naturalizations as we indexed a batch. Thank you to panelist Marceline Beem, Deb Andrew and MElissa LeMaster Barker for keeping a watchful eye, ensuringour index batch would be submitted without error.
What’s the “After Party?” It’s when we stop the webinar recording, but continue talking. This time, we discussed Pat Kuhn’s craft YouTube channel (awesome!) and one of Ol’ Myrt’s ancestors whose probate packet indicated he had $13,000US in the bank when he died. We’ve included the Dollar Times Inflation Calculator link below that indicated the buying power in 2018 dollars is over $165,000US. Wow.
Among our topics today:
What are you collecting?
RootsWeb Mailing Lists Help
Ancestry’s “We’re Related” smart phone app
Randy Seaver’s Finding a 1916 California death certificate in FamilySearch’s digital image collection
DearMYRTLE’s DAR application – she’s gathering 2 more required documents
Blaine Bettinger’s DNA-Central Webinars
True Lewis’ 2 favorite DNA apps
10:01:53 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:01:54 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Good Noon time Myrt and Russ
10:01:59 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Hello from South Louisiana
10:02:30 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s Calendar http://dearmyrtle.com/blog2/index.php/calendar/
10:02:53 From Hilary Gadsby : I need to watch those sessions as I have people who emigrated to Canada
10:03:07 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Good afternoon from New Jersey
10:03:26 From Cousin Russ : GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
10:03:36 From Danine Cozzens : I’m in. Got a couple of brick walls in Canada. Great topic!
10:04:29 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : There is someone with a birthday in the attendees today.
10:04:37 From Launa Droescher : I’ve been trying to catch her very good
DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
10:06:15 From Dave Robison : The Springfield Museum is named “Museum of Springfield History AND Archives.” WMGS has a private tour this Wednesday.
10:07:35 From Bill West : Good morning from sunny southeastern Massachusetts.
What are you collecting?
10:08:44 From June Butka : My mother’s Thumble collection from her travels, is one of my favorites. Each one tells it’s own story.
10:09:15 From Michelle Minner : I collected baseball ticket stubs from my grandfather, and great grandfather! weird, but important to me!
10:11:11 From Cousin Russ : Cousin Russ’ A Worthington Weblog: https://worthy2be.wordpress.com
10:12:19 From cyndy Bray : I have the program from my Grandmothers 1907 graduation ceremony
10:13:06 From Cousin Russ : The Cemetery Keeper’s Wife https://www.amazon.com/Cemetery-Keepers-Wife-Maryann-McFadden/dp/0692974776
10:13:56 From Graham Walter : My father’s credit plate for a local department store Adelaide [South Australia] – (1930’s). Pre credit card time
10:14:05 From June Butka : The same for Henrietta Lacks story. a great book to read mis The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks by Rebecca Skloot.
10:16:20 From Cousin Russ : WE’RE RELATED https://www.ancestry.com/wererelated/share/
10:17:58 From Cousin Russ : http://historycamp.org/pioneer-valley
10:20:58 From Cousin Russ : This is a good article. Follow the link for more information. Shays’ Rebellion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shays%27_Rebellion
10:22:59 From Deb Andrew : I have a rubber duck, and it wasn’t from a child.
10:24:13 From Dave Robison : In spite of the lack of records from the 18th and 19th centuries, I have a written record of the marriage of my 2nd great grandparents. “Advice to a Married Couple”
10:24:47 From Dave Robison : We used metal plates at a gas station where I worked in the late 60s.
10:24:49 From Graham Walter : similar to a military dog-tag in size [YES!]
10:24:57 From Danine Cozzens : I have vintage jewelry that belonged to my mom, grandmothers, and great aunt. And I wear it for historic and vintage dress up.
10:25:00 From Kathleen Daetsch : I have my mother’s WWII ration stamps
10:25:22 From Rachel Evans My great-grandmother used to sing and dance in the NYC area when she was younger. I have programs from some of her performances.
10:25:35 From Hilary Gadsby : I have programmes for the shows that I was performing in at school.
10:26:14 From Barbara Gressel : Her descendants came to Missouri State. A wonderful story. All of the students were required to read about Henrietta Lacks.
10:28:48 From Robbin Smith: I have my fathers report card from Xavier in NYC and his dog tags from navy service, and certificate of his crossing the dateline
10:29:00 From Robbin Smith : He served in WWII
10:29:12 From Danine Cozzens : I’ve also collected vintage postcards of the towns where my ancestors lived.
10:30:21 From Bill West : I have the high school newspaper editions I wrote for as well as the science fiction fanzines with my articles and stories. Presently, as a retiree, I collect dust. 🙂
10:31:10 From Randy Seaver: Besides dead ancestors, I assume?
10:32:04 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I have a fire insurance policy for my great-grandparents farm dated 6 Feb 1894 the policy unfolds to a very large document. I always worked in the insurance industry. I have many documents for my various families.
10:33:07 From Randy Seaver : My great-grandparents invested in some Russian company back in the early 1900s (before the 1917 revolution) and my daughter (who speaks russian) claimed them and displays them on her office wall
10:33:22 From Randy Seaver : I never put a tree on Rootsweb WorldConnect
10:44:35 From Graham Walter : I’ll certainly be going to Birmingham 🙂
10:45:32 From Cousin Russ : Upcoming Family History Expos Virtual Conference offerings https://www.familyhistoryexpos.com/viewevent/index/190
10:45:33 From Hilary Gadsby : Will be great to catch up again Graham
10:45:48 From Graham Walter : sounds good
10:45:49 From Dave Robison : I like the “regular” people angle. That’s the premise for “Genealogy Road Show” on PBS with Mary Tedesco, Kenyatta Berry and Josh Taylor.
10:45:50 From Randy Seaver : genies are foodies!!!
10:47:36 From DAVID TAYLOR : Looks like a great Conference
10:49:01 From Graham Walter : https://blog.myheritage.com/2018/07/youre-invited-to-myheritages-international-user-conference/
10:49:57 From June Butka : Thankfully the fire alarm that went off was just bumped by the Insulation people. No Fire. . I will catch up in the archieve. for what I missed.
10:50:23 From Dave Robison : BeforeI forget…again…Audrey Collins will be at the TIARA conference in Boston in August.
10:50:28 From Liv Christensen : The Norwegian MyHeritage event is the biggest genealogy event ever.
10:51:05 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Thanks, Myrt!
10:51:15 From Graham Walter : 🙂
10:51:15 From Pamela Wells : It’s my birthday today, too!
10:51:33 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Happy birthday, Pamela!
10:51:33 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s Finding a 1916 California death certificate on FamilySearch digital microfilm is https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/07/finding-free-los-angeles-california.html
10:54:08 From Pamela Wells : Thank you, Yvonne!
10:55:06 From Danine Cozzens : Excellent step by step accounting, Randy!
10:55:20 From Robbin Smith : agreed
11:08:27 From Randy Seaver : The takeaway for me is that I SHOULD check the digital microfilm on FamilySearch Catalog EVERY time I look for a record.
11:09:05 From June Butka : I wish I had that luck with my Isiah Pease search.
11:10:18 From June Butka : I found land records, however the Maine Archieve can’t find the information the catalog or the record name any longer.
11:12:35 From Dave Robison : I’m the Registrar for the Pomeroy Chapter of the SAR. We can’t use applications approved prior to 1985! We can use them for guidance, but we have to “fill in the blanks!”
11:15:34 From Dave Robison : Russ, the SAR preparation manual outlines the GPS on page 3.
11:16:20 From Dave Robison : They call it the “genealogical proof argument”
11:19:33 From Valerie Lisk: Mentioning DNA, True had previously, on another webinar, mentioned two apps she used for sorting her matches. One was an ancestry app and one was a google extension. True, what are the name of those please?
11:22:15 From Valerie Lisk : Black Pro gen Live
11:22:22 From June Butka : Thank you, the extention information will be helpful.
11:22:39 From Valerie Lisk : Thanks True!
11:22:46 From Cousin Russ : John you are here, You need to turn your camera on.
DearMYRTLE’s DAR Application is in process.
11:25:16 From Barbara LaMarche to All panelists : As a 10 member of DAR and past Registrar, I am so exited to hear your news ! DAR is a fabulous sisterhood that provides service around the world and preserves our family histories. I serve on the Veteran’s committee.
11:32:50 From Robbin Smith : Online Idaho Death Records & Indexes https://www.deathindexes.com/idaho/
11:33:11 From Crystal Toenjes : I’m happy to hear about your good experience with finishing your DAR paperwork. I’ve been working for more than six years, and there always seems to be some small thing missing from my proofs to finish my application. I’m now researching my sixth potential DAR Patriot, and really hope this one will finally work out since he is also a gateway ancestor for the Mayflower Society.
11:33:28 From Deb Andrew : Do scanned copies work or are originals needed?
11:34:00 From Barbara LaMarche : Yes, thank you. We collect supplies for our local Veterans home and the Wounded Warrior Project. We help our community celebrate all our patriot holidays serving refreshments at parades. Also, our quilters make quilts for our older local Vets and the rest of us supply fabric etc to our talented quilters. We also participate in Wreaths Around the World for the graves of Veterans in our local cemetery at Christmas time . Love all of you at Dear Myrtle. I have learned soooo much over the years.
11:35:31 From True Lewis : Scanned Copies of the Originals are acceptable.
Is DearMYRTLE committing a copyright infringement by including a page from the LDS Church’s The Friend in her weekly letter to her grandchildren? What about no attribution showing up on her screen shot from hre RootsMagic genealogy software?
11:35:41 From Robbin Smith : for personal use I think is okay
11:35:55 From Danine Cozzens : But it’s personal use.
11:36:06 From Devon Lee : We’re encouraged to use these items in our Primary classes. So, what’s the difference in a family share?
11:36:14 From Maria Tegtmeier : I think that as long as you are not trying to earn money from it, you are ok.
11:36:22 From Deb Andrew : It could be a violations, unless they stated upfront that it is given a release.
11:36:29 From Doris Haskell : You can share with your grandchildren. NO problem.
11:36:37 From June Butka : If you are using it for family only not publishing. is not infringing. Nothing being sold. or published you shuld be okay.
11:36:42 From Randy Seaver : fair use to copy it and use it for personal information and education, but don’t publish it
11:37:56 From Deb Andrew : Always write and asked, to be on the safe side.
11:38:05 From June Butka : Is it a problem to request use from LDS?
11:38:20 From Randy Seaver : Check the book for usage restrictions, and if there are some, ask for permission to use it broadly
11:38:48 From True Lewis : Your Welcome Valerie –
11:40:13 From Randy Seaver : I found only the baseball bat on the image.
11:40:27 From True Lewis : Crystal do you have a Registrar helping you? Someone in your local area should be able to guide you. You may need a extra pair of eyes.
11:40:31 From Devon Lee : Ha. I have the screen too small to find the items.
11:41:59 From Marcia Philbrick : Re: Screenshots — When the screen shot is of our database in RootsMagic, do we have to get permission from RootsMagic?
11:42:35 From Devon Lee : Do you need to say screen shot from RM if the article is already talking about RootsMagic? That seems obvious.
11:43:02 From Crystal Toenjes : True: Yes I do, as well as working with some of the other ladies in the group who have served as registrar in the past. With on of the potential patriots in particular, at least two other people thought I had enough, but the current registrar did not and will therefore not submit the paperwork.
11:43:07 From Randy Seaver : Marcia, I don’t think we need permission for screenshots of RootsMagic screens. It’s YOUR image, not there’s. It’s your data on their format.
11:44:09 From True Lewis : My 1st Time at Continental Congress: https://mytrueroots.blogspot.com/2018/07/daughters-of-american-revolution-127th.html
11:44:30 From Randy Seaver : True – loved your blog post!
11:44:41 From True Lewis : Thanks Randy!!!!!!
11:47:00 From DearMYRTLE: Blaine Bettinger made a bold statement about making videos accessible to all. “Over the past few months, I’ve learned that genealogy has a VERY LONG way to go to encourage, much less ensure, access to anyone with hearing and/or sight challenges. It’s not even on the radar of most genealogists. For example, from this point forward, other than contracts I’ve already entered into, I will only participate in recorded presentations/webinars that are closed captioned (within a certain time frame). I encourage other genealogists to join me!”Source: https://www.facebook.com/bbettinger/posts/531945976876
11:51:31 From Devon Lee : I’m hearing impaired and I struggle in some live streams, but there are some platforms that have captioning live.
11:52:03 From Devon Lee : I’ll admit that I don’t watch some channels that don’t have closed captions, but I’ll accept a bad caption rather than no caption.
11:52:58 From Doris Haskell : I am 74, short, hearing impaired. All I ask is to be able to sit in the first or second row.
11:53:04 From Devon Lee : As for the presentation slides, I think there is much that can be done to improve the slides that we are using when we teach. Too often, too much is on the slides than should be
11:53:16 From Valerie Lisk : When you register for an event at the St. Louis Genealogical Society, they ask if you have a disability and they try to accommodate everyone.
12:00:19 From Valerie Lisk : I have a password file in my google docs.
12:00:55 From Doris Haskell : I have a document printed out with my passwords, and a Google Sheets file as well.
12:01:07 From Cousin Russ : https://www.dollartimes.com
12:01:37 From Doris Haskell : I put up a batch of strawberry jam this morning.
12:01:39 From Valerie Lisk : going to work
12:02:08 From Devon Lee : I’m going to grade summer school papers!!!
12:07:24 From Cousin Russ : Pat O’Donnell Kuhn’s crafting website. https://www.youtube.com/user/MsPatk
12:07:58 From Valerie Lisk : I don’t have time for crafts since I discovered DNA and webinars.