FindMyPast: British Army Officers’ Widows’ pensions (1755 – 1908)

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was received from our friends at FindMyPast. I’ve added sample document to this post below the announcement.

findmypast 2017

Findmypast publishes more of The National Archives’ collection of British Army officers’ widows’ pension forms

  • British Army officers’ widows’ pension forms spanning the years 1755 – 1908 indexed online for the first time
  • Over 13,000 records, including transcripts and scanned images of original documents, now available to search

 Leading British family history website, Findmypast, today announces the publication of a new online collection of British Army Pension records held by The National Archives.

Indexed online for the first time, British Army Officers’ Widows’ Pension Forms 1755 – 1908, spans more than 150 years of British military history and contains over 13,000 transcripts and scanned images taken from The National Archives series “WO 42: War Office: Officers’ Birth Certificates, Wills and Personal Papers”.

The collection consists of bundles of original documents submitted in support of pension claims made by the widows of British Army officers. It covers the wives of officers who died in service or on half pay as well as compassionate allowances awarded to the children of both deceased and disabled officers.

The bundles include a variety of original army forms and supporting documents that enable family historians to learn more about their military ancestors’ careers while uncovering important biographical details of their wives and children.

Researchers can view the original application forms completed by widows, marriage and death details of the officers in question, as well as death certificates, marriage certificates, birth certificates and baptismal records for their wives and children.

Paul Nixon, Head of UK Data Licensing at Findmypast, said: “There has never been a better time to be a family historian and the release of this small but important collection of military records further illustrates this point.”

British Army Officers’ Widows’ Pension Forms 1755 – 1908 joins Findmypast’s growing collection of more than 30 million British and Irish military records. Covering a wide time frame, the Pension Forms complement Findmypast’s existing collection of First World War Widows’ Pension Forms, and include records for officers who served during the Seven Years War, The War of American Independence, the French Revolutionary Wars, the Napoleonic Wars, The War of 1812, The Crimean War, the Anglo-Zulu War and the Boer War.

To find out more about the collection, visit:

About Findmypast

Findmypast (previously DC Thomson Family History) is the British-owned world leader in online family history with over 18 million registered users across its family of brands, which include Findmypast, Genes Reunited, the British Newspaper Archive and Twile. Its lead brand, also called Findmypast, is the home of the world’s most comprehensive online collection of British and Irish records, including:

  • The largest online collection of UK parish records
  • Twice the number of Irish records available on any other site
  • The British Library’s vast collection of historical newspapers
  • The exclusive Catholic Heritage Archive, a ground-breaking initiative that aims to digitize the historical records of the Catholic Church in North America, Britain and Ireland for the very first time.

Findmypast is committed to making discoveries in the British Isles easier than ever before. It combines the best of British and Irish data with the knowledge of in-house experts to provide a unique family history experience that guides researchers through every step of their journey.

For more information on how Findmypast is enhancing the experiences of family historians worldwide, visit:

About The National Archives

The National Archives is one of the world’s most valuable resources for research and an independent research organisation in its own right. As the official archive and publisher for the UK government, and England and Wales they are the guardians of some of the UK’s most iconic national documents, dating back over 1,000 years. Their role is to collect and secure the future of the government record, both digital and physical, to preserve it for generations to come, and to make it as accessible and available as possible. The National Archives brings together the skills and specialisms needed to conserve some of the oldest historic documents as well as leading digital archive practices to manage and preserve government information past, present and future. /

1820 British Officers Widow Pension

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British Army, “Required for Placing on the Pension, the Widow of an Officer Under the Rank of Major General”, Margaret Baird, widow of Andrew Baird, Royal Lanark Regiment Of Militia, filed 11 Jan 1820, FindMyPast, British Army Officers’ Widows’ Pension Forms 1755-1908, Digital Image Collection, citing The National Archives, W.O. 42/B1-60 ( : viewed 20 Apr 2018).




ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 16 Apr 2018


We went exploring and experimenting today during Mondays with Myrt. Find out about “geo redirection”.

I certainly hope is paying attention, as we came up with a good idea to improve FindAGrave Virtual Cemeteries. So let me hashtag the heck out of this in hopes of getting the developer’s attention. #ancestry #FindAGrave and #have wegotanideaforyou

We were also frustrated when websites such as Ancestry or #FindMyPast have different extensions for countries. In our research and (US version) have more than a different landing page. In the case of the 1911 Census pages, the UK version has a link to instructions for enumerators, not found in the US version. UPDATE: At the time of this post’s publication this appears to have been corrected.


10:00:21 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone, listening in from the Houston County, Tennessee Archives!
10:01:03 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Hello and CROAK CROAK happy Spring
10:02:00 From Amy Woods Butler to All panelists : Hi, happy to join you for the first time!
10:02:32 From Hilary Gadsby : Welcome Amy
10:03:21 From Cousin Russ : Happy Blogiversary to Genea-Musings
10:03:40 From Jackie Chalmers : Morning every one!
10:04:10 From Cousin Russ : WHERE are DearMYRTLE’s Webinars archived? At MYRT’S MUSINGS
10:05:35 From Karen Trearchis : You are all our cousins!

10:05:39 From Cousin Russ : Find a Grave as Cousin Bait

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: During this FindAGrave discussion, we attempted to discover how well integrated the “Virtual Cemetery” option is at this point. Sadly, we found virtual cemetery listings don’t show up in the name search hit list, making it harder for researchers to collaborate. Instead the link to my Player Family Virtual Cemetery is sadly buried (pardon the pun) under an individual FindAGrave contributor’s profile – something akin to needing to guess at an email address. On the plus side, Ol’ Myrt here figured if I obtain the URL for my “Virtual Cemetery” I could share that with my cousins.


10:05:41 From Gloria Deison : Morning!! (Afternoon here!) Random: just got 2 books (there are never enough books), translating the titles: “Jewish in the history of Friuli (NE Italy)” and “Margins of freedom: female wills in the Middle Ages” can’t wait to read them… once I’m done with the 10 I’m reading !!
10:06:57 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I like the Virtual Cemetery idea, will try it out.
10:07:50 From Randy Seaver : I like the Virtual Cemetery idea, will try it out. I’ll put all of my ancesrtor’s FAG memorials in it.
10:10:46 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Creating a Virtual Cemetery would make a good topic for a Wacky Wed. (or video) session
10:10:49 From Bill West : Good morning from soggy Massachusetts
10:11:48 From Deb Andrew : I check who created the memorial and who left flowers.
10:14:30 From Deb Andrew : I’ve been contacted by cousins through the regular part.
10:15:18 From Marian Koalski : I created a virtual cemetery for veterans at a local cemetery … in the days of old Findagrave.
10:15:19 From Michelle Minner: This will be perfect for me! WOW…I have a couple of grandparents that were the first to not be buried at the family plots! good way to show where!
10:15:23 From Hilary Gadsby : I already have a virtual cemetery
10:15:46 From Danine Cozzens : This would be so helpful! New to me.
10:15:53 From Linda Jordan: Didn’t know about it. Definitely will do it.
10:16:21 From Amy Woods Butler to All panelists : Love the virtual cemetery for vets idea!
10:17:11 From Randy Seaver : How do people find a public Virtual Cemetery? Only by a link to it on a website or email? Or will it pop up in a search for a person?
10:18:42 From Marcia Philbrick : Photos on Billion Graves have GPS coordinates associated. Thus, you can pull up a cemetery in Billion Graves and see where the stone is within the cemetery.
10:20:22 From Jackie Chalmers : You could create a virtual tour with Google Earth!

This is the virtual tour I made of my father’s childhood homes up on Queen Anne Hill in Seattle, Washington using Google Maps.


10:21:20 From Randy Seaver : [The FindAGrave Virtual Cemetery] may require a re-indexing overnight or every six months
10:22:29 From Marcia Philbrick : I have an old virtual cemetery. I just searched for one of the members and the Find a Grave search did not find the virtual cemetery. (Duane Gail Crawford)
10:24:50 From Deb Andrew : When you go to the profile page, it will show up there.
10:25:01 From Nancy Mason: what if you search under cemeteries rather than for a person
10:25:58 From Randy Seaver : is there any way to add a Note to a profile in the Virtual Cemetery?
10:27:07 From Marie Andersen: Can Russ search under Cemeteries for Player Cemetery?
10:27:27 From Michelle Entrop I’m going to create a virtual one for my upcoming family history trip to Puerto Rico!
10:31:51 From Geoff Mulholland to All panelists : On the old site the edit screen for the virtual cemetery- at the bottom of the Box says Choosing Yes makes this virtual cemetery visible to Visitors of your contributor page
10:33:41 From Valerie Lisk : Has anyone uploaded their DNA to WikiTree? Is there an advantage over GedMatch?

10:34:00 From DearMYRTLE: WIKI TREE – Are you interested in being a [Clean Up] team captain? Contact Eowyn at
10:34:28 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : How about “Do I Need a Desktop Program?” in
10:34:44 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : I’m not sure what info is shown to everyone when uploading DNA to WikiTree — can someone explain the process and what info is shown to all?
10:34:47 From Geoff Mulholland: I can see DearMYRTLE’s Player Family [Virtual] Cemetery by viewing the DearMYRTLE Profile page even on the new site
10:35:19 From Randy Seaver: Or a discussion of accessing Land Records using FamilySearch digital microfilm – I wrote last week
10:39:25 From Deb Andrew : I think you can link it to
10:42:12 From Randy Seaver : Linda, I also added links to my autosomal DNA tests on Ancestry, 23andMe, FTDNA and GEDMatch.
10:42:29 From Deb Andrew : You can link your DNA results to Wiki Tree to Gedmatch.
10:44:33 From Hilary Gadsby : The map search in 1939 register works well if you put in enough information
10:56:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Facebook groups can have lots of photographs but not always sure that they are all free to use
10:57:09 From Amy Woods Butler : I have clients draw a map of the important places in their home town, like the walk to school, movie theater, church, etc.
10:59:36 From Deb Andrew : Go back a little to Wiki Tree, if you say where you tested and have a kit number from Gedmatch, it will show your Wiki Tree. You do need to select under settings to display with an alias and show other choices, but you do need to check it for it to link.


IMAGE: By Valentines Series – old postcard, Public Domain,

11:00:23 From Karen Trearchis : I been to Victoria station back in 1971.
11:01:33 From Karen Trearchis : I wonder what it Victoria Station looked like in 1971, I don’t remember.

11:05:36 From Cousin Russ : From Tony Proctor — The automatic changing of, say, to, is a country-based redirection, often called “geo redirection”. If you’re in the US then it assumes you want the US site — not a wise decision where genealogy is concerned. When I visit when I’m resident in Ireland then it at least asks me to confirm whether I want the UK or IE site. You’ll find does a redirection and it can be very frustrating when you’re travelling. However, they have an option you can add to the URL to prevent it: where the “ncr” stands for “no country redirect”. It is possible to fake your country (using a proxy to set a different IP address) but it’s too complicated and messy for most of us. Genealogy sites that do this need to think about providing an override, or just not doing it at all.

11:10:22 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Myrt: Canadians (and .ca) are usually friendlier and accommodating 🙂
11:11:18 From DearMYRTLE : 🙂
11:13:14 From June Butka : It did not redirect me. I used chrome and
11:14:03 From Michelle Minner to All panelists : Windows 10 – using Chrome…I was able to go to
11:14:12 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Could be going by your ISP number
11:14:38 From Deb Andrew : I used Firefox, Windows 10 and it went to Ancestry CA
11:14:52 From Barbara Gressel : I have an Ancestry world membership and it just takes me right to the other country. I don’t get the sign-in screen.
11:15:10 From Geoff Mulholland : I always have this problem with Ancestry, being forced to , sometimes it works, sometimes it does not, I try to use a VPN, and even that does not always work, but mostly helps
11:15:12 From June Butka : Go to History the the menu, then clear all
11:15:27 From June Butka : Left of setting the lines
11:16:06 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : More tools, then you find it there (Chrome)
11:16:17 From June Butka : Click the history afterwards go to the left of the page to the lines drop down
11:16:30 From Jackie Wilson : Under advanced/privacy & security – the last item is “clear browsing data.
11:16:46 From June Butka : Click history not that drop down
11:17:15 From Jackie Wilson : Click on the arrow and it will have clear data button
11:17:29 From June Butka : Same here Hilary.
11:17:30 From Barbara Gressel : I”m on Chrome with Windows 10 and it works fine for me also.
11:17:38 From Randy Seaver : you know, some things are tech-proof…
11:20:45 From Deb Andrew : You need to sign in.
11:20:54 From Michelle Minner Look at that line that tells you that it will redirect in 10 seconds…!!!!! you waited too long to click anything.
11:21:28 From Karen Trearchis : I was able to get to & uk using my browser Safari.
11:22:21 From Paprika Peppercorn to All panelists : I went to and a pop up window advised me to not go to but to go to but, allowed me to go to
11:22:37 From Karen Trearchis : My findmypast shows the same screen as Pat.

11:23:05 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s Accessing Land Records using FamilySearch digital 

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NOTE from DearMYRTLE: How did Randy get to this image when the record set has not gone through FamilySearch Indexing? You’ll want to follow his screen shots and step-by-step directions for navigating such a record set.

11:24:28 From Karen Trearchis : I just got on
11:25:22 From Jackie Wilson : I entered and logged in and stayed in Canada! Using google chrome

11:28:35 From Tony Proctor: Re: 1911 census, best not to search their ‘census’ category (too general). Select ‘Search A-Z of Record sets’, type 1911 and select the census option. Street address was ‘Fairholme Terrace’, County Nottinghamshire, Surname: Bradbury


US Version

Tony Proctor, you will be happy to note BOTH the US and UK versions of the 1911 England/Wales census on FindMyPast have links to the Enumerator’s Summary Book Images (RG 78). A month ago “related images” were not available via the US site as we had sadly discovered and discussed during Mondays with Myrt.

11:31:58 From June Butka : I’ve been using the Catalog. There are almost new images weekly. I know that a birth record from two weeks ago I had to go the the FHL. This week it was available on line via the catalog.

11:32:10 From Karen Trearchis : thanks Randy.
11:35:27 From June Butka :
11:39:13 From June Butka : Thank you.
11:39:33 From June Butka : Delayed entry birth record.
11:39:47 From Cousin Russ : Julie Cahill Tarr
11:43:39 From June Butka : I’m seeing the screen.
11:45:04 From June Butka : Well done all. Thank you.
11:45:10 From Cousin Russ : Our conversation continues in the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community —
11:45:16 From Randy Seaver : so “Online” does not include the digitized records not on the Historical Record Collections list?
11:46:25 From Randy Seaver : Um, that was poorly worded. “Online” does not include the digitized microfilm in the Catalog that are not yet in Historical Record Collections.
11:46:44 From Cousin Russ : WHERE are DearMYRTLE’s Webinars archived? At MYRT’S MUSINGS
11:48:46 From Geoff Mulholland : Thank you

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 5 Mar 2018


This is the first Mondays with Myrt webinar since RootsTech 2018. Let’s hear from folks all over the world about their take on the conference, including those #notatrootstech .


00:49:40 Susan Howard: Yea, you are live!
00:50:02 Susan Howard: Hi Dave Robison! Was nice meeting you in person!
00:50:37 True Lewis: Susan I was so Happy to see YOU!
00:50:50 Betty-Lu Burton: Hello every one
00:50:58 Susan Howard: I can hear that!
00:51:08 True Lewis: I couldn’t get to him. Luckily I ran into him in the Hall.
00:51:15 Sheryl Whisenhunt: I was going to say, Poor Russ, you talked too much at Roots Tech this year. Take care of yourself.
00:51:29 Susan Howard: It’s Monday!
00:52:25 Susan Howard: The Cousin Russ Help Bar was perfect!
00:52:50 Betty-Lu Burton: That looks like it would of been a great place to work
00:53:20 Marian Koalski: But missing comfy chairs for the booth worker
00:54:13 Bill West: Good morninng from cloudy Massachusetts
00:54:33 Susan Howard: Shadow box is such a cool idea!
00:55:17 Bryher Scudamore: Good evening from London, UK
00:55:35 Robbin Smith: hello from sunny Miami

NOTE Mr. Myrt and I hosted a RootsTech After-Party for genealogy bloggers. This is the shadow box I gave cousin Russ with the shadow box about his ancestor Samuel Worthington, pictured below, including a US Civil War (Union) participation medal.

2018 Samuel Worthings US Civil War presentation
00:55:46 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Very nice gift indeed.
00:56:04 Robbin Smith: cool indeed
00:56:20 Pam Helm: Very beautiful gift. I am sure he will treasure it forever.

00:56:34 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Live streaming was great.
00:56:51 Betty-Lu Burton: Live streaming worked great
00:58:02 Marian Koalski: REPEATED THANKS to Randy for the link where we could get handouts from home computers
00:58:02 Robbin Smith: I hope everyone saw or attended the “DNA No Match No Problem” session
00:58:21 Robbin Smith: that was a great session
00:58:38 Susan Howard: I think it was easier to get into some live stream sessions #NotAtRootsTech than it was being there in person.

00:59:25 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Living DNA was great.
00:59:58 Susan Howard: I’m excited about LivingDNA’s new Family Network feature. I’m going to be helping beta test starting next month.
01:00:36 Betty-Lu Burton: I am looking forward to finding out if I have Scottish in me, with the work Living dNA is doing in the UK
01:01:15 True Lewis: LivingDNA was Awesome. They stood out the most besides My Heritage to me.
01:02:31 True Lewis: Ms. Peggy had 361 Relatives at Rootstech!
01:02:54 RandySeaver: the link to find your relatives on the Family Tree app is gone now
01:03:26 Karen Trearchis: I liked using the Rootstech18 app! It is great that we can download the handouts on the app. Does everyone online now know that they can?
01:03:27 Yvonne Demoskoff: My husband (who’s Russian) didn’t get any relatives, poor thing 🙂
01:03:54 Yvonne Demoskoff: Randy, I did screen grabs of the ones I wanted to follow up on
01:03:55 Robbin Smith: i didn’t find any
01:05:17 RandySeaver: I got only one screen grab on the Family Tree app -the one that had David Rencher at the top of my list, and Pat as #5 on my list
01:07:14 Yvonne Demoskoff: I hope everyone checked their syllabi thumb drive because 50% of them weren’t formatted
01:07:28 Yvonne Demoskoff: mine was empty
01:07:53 True Lewis: I saw a lady carrying the book around and it was HUGE! (she had a roller back pack).
01:08:30 Linda Stufflebean: My flash drive syllabus says the files are corrupted and I heard many others make the same comment at the conference.
01:09:48 Bill West: Russ, you sound like Dave. Feel better soon.
01:11:09 Karen Trearchis: I downloaded the handout, then you can choose to send by email or what I did on my Mac, I downloaded it and you can choose where you want it to go. I saved to notes and it went immediately into iCloud.

NOTE: MacKiev’s Family Tree Maker booth was amazing. Cousin Russ had his own part of the booth – the HELP BAR.

2018 RootsTech FTM Booth
01:11:44 Marian Koalski: It sure was smart of MacKiev to have you host that Family Tree Maker booth, Russ.

01:12:56 Susan Howard: The Black Pro Gen group were having so much fun! NOTE: “BlackProGen is a group of professional genealogists who research and document African American families. We share research strategies, thoughts, ideas, experiences, and whatever comes to mind while working for clients and in our own research endeavors through conference and webinar presentations, blogs, podcasts, video, interviews, and more.” Source:

ABOVE: Bernice Alexander Bennett, Angela Walton-Raji, Janis Minor Forte, Shelley Murphy and Kathleen Brandt at RootsTech 2016 for a discussion on “Telling Your Story” for Black ProGen.

01:13:47 RandySeaver: I missed the Black Pro Gen exhibit…my bad I think.
01:15:59 Robbin Smith: I got out as the snow was starting at 11pm they had to de-ice the plane
01:18:36 Betty-Lu Burton: How special True, what an honor
01:18:36 RandySeaver: CeCe is very thoughtful – you were lucky, True, and good!
01:19:39 Doris Haskell: What a special moment in life! Good for you!
01:20:57 Betty-Lu Burton: The theme for Living DNA was we are all more a like then different
01:22:06 Robbin Smith: Russ, the link worked for me
01:22:45 Betty-Lu Burton: True your mom is going to be over the moon when she gets that picture
01:23:46 Bill West: True, I’m jealous!
01:25:17 Teri Chaffin: true you are beautiful inside and out!
01:25:35 Shelley Murphy: love my cousin True Roots…
01:25:37 Betty-Lu Burton: True your journey into the genealogy community is truely a story of inclusion and of people helping each other
01:26:19 Susan Howard: I got to meet Nicka Smith! Love her blog!
01:27:16 Shelley Murphy: oh she ran by, no walking for True
01:27:29 Shelley Murphy: I agree Betty-Lu
01:27:51 Doris Haskell: Sharing a booth is a smart idea.
01:27:53 Valerie Lisk: True, you are in the dog house because Black Pro Gen Live is not on the Genea Webinar Calendar. <g>

01:28:03 Shelley Murphy:
01:33:53 Shelley Murphy: I love it too!. Russ do you always close your eyes?
01:34:54 True Lewis: I’ll get it Valerie!!!!!! Thanks for the Links Susan and Shelley! Thank You Betty Lu and Valerie Lisk.

A “Scrolling Family Tree” – best *new thing* at RootsTech 2018.

01:35:59 Shelley Murphy: oh where did you get it from, wonderful.
01:36:08 True Lewis: Already @Shelley!
01:37:01 Susan Howard: I saw that and thought it was pretty cool but I am pretty much all digital and don’t like to carry any more than I have to
01:37:27 Bryher Scudamore: They are called Dry Marker pens in the UK
01:37:27 True Lewis: LoooOoL


01:41:35 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch’s new “Communities”
01:43:59 DaveRobison: Interesting! I have a speaker on Welsh and UK research coming to WMGS this week!
01:47:17 Shelley Murphy: I left 2 hours late, heading out from the airport
01:48:00 Shelley Murphy: oh yes, I am, one.

01:48:52 Cousin Russ:

RootsFinder screen shot 2018
01:49:28 Cousin Russ:

MyHeritage 1 to many

NOTE: See MyHeritage “One-to-Many Chromosome Browser: Genetic genealogy made easier” post

01:50:28 Susan Howard: Love the MyH one-to-many! Have played with it a little bit and it’s fabulous!

IMAGE: Henry-Louis-Gates-Jr.-Headshot-Courtesy-of-Ark-MediaIMAGE: Courtesy of
01:51:24 Marian Koalski: Prof. Gates, pictured above, says that Season 5 of Finding Your Roots is in production. See

01:51:28 Shelley Murphy: I am going to Rensselaer Historical Society next week, if anyone needs a look up!
01:51:33 Susan Howard: Living DNA Family Networks coming later this year. Will be in beta starting next month. I will be beta testing it.

DNA Painter
01:51:58 Valerie Lisk: DNA PAINTER won an award.
01:52:32 True Lewis: Love you Cousin Shells and Thank You for Everything. Thanks Renate! We missed you.
01:53:03 Susan Howard: Yes, DNA Painter! I had a chance to meet and help Jonny Perl out at his booth. Lots of interest!
01:53:08 Shelley Murphy: @True, right back at you.
01:53:33 Doris Haskell: Did Hilary Gadsby find her way in here today?

findmypast 2017
01:53:58 True Lewis: Myko was so helpful about Find My Past was glad to meet him again. Dapper Historian on Twitter.
01:55:29 RandySeaver: Doris, no Hilary is traveling today back home

LegacyTree Genealogists
01:55:43 Cousin Russ:
01:55:48 Shelley Murphy: They are hiring!

01:56:25 True Lewis: Charge it to my MIND and not my HEART! if I forgot anyone, I didn’t mean to. Rootstech has me still tired.
01:57:47 RandySeaver: I got to meet Doris Haskell in person too!
01:57:50 Shelley Murphy: oh I agree True, I am exhausted…and I am at work now. The body will catch up…
01:58:44 True Lewis: I’m chilling the rest of the week. lol. I got scatterbrains.

01:58:48 Cousin Russ:
02:00:37 Shelley Murphy: folks were in there crying, they got emotional. Bernice is excellent
02:00:42 RandySeaver: I really enjoyed meeting Roberta Estes, Marian Pieree-Louis, Dave Robison, Marian Wood and others for the first time
02:02:17 RandySeaver: Roberta Estes blogpost with photos of MyHeritage screens during the MyHeritage lunch is at
02:02:22 True Lewis: People need to include the Emotional side and look at the perspectives. This is gonna be a big deal in DNA.
02:04:21 Susan Howard: Lucky you Dave!
02:04:50 Shelley Murphy: Thats really cool Dave!
02:05:25 True Lewis: Love it DAVE! that’s how I felt about meeting you Finally!
02:06:18 Shelley Murphy: With all the vendors linked to DNA, where do you all see this going in the future? Is it really just family connections or more?
02:06:53 AnnaMatthews: It’s off the RootsTech topic, but for anyone in the NY area, the New York branch of NARA is having a NY genealogy research series, the second Tuesday of March, April, May and June. More info here:
02:07:53 Karen Trearchis: Do you have to be LDS? If we have a tree on familysearch, does that count? [MYRT: No.]
02:08:11 Valerie Lisk: you have to be an LDS member to synch Familysearch with MyHeritage?
02:08:13 True Lewis: THAT IS BEAUTIFUL!
02:08:25 Shelley Murphy: It is beautiful
02:08:27 True Lewis: all the way from Norway!
02:08:41 Karen Trearchis: thanks Val
02:09:12 Maria Tegtmeier: She is wonderful – had a great conversation with her
02:09:36 Valerie Lisk: Sorry Karen. That was a question.
02:09:47 RandySeaver: Shelley, I think the BIG collaborative FamilySearch Family Tree is the winner. Findmypast and MyHeritage will partner with them, as will RootsFinder. FSFT is the biggest tree (over 900 million profiles) and will last a long time. All people will need to do is enter themselves and parents and grandparents and should be able to hook into the tree and receive DNA matches from the DNA matches.
02:09:58 True Lewis: Melissa is so SWEET for that! What a Rootstech! xoxo’s for that.

02:13:03 RandySeaver: Valerie Lisk – at the present time, yes you have to be an LDS member to sync with MyHeritage. And it’s not a sync like RootsMafic or Legacy has – it’s download 8 generations of ancestors and 3 generations of descendants from FSFT to a NEW MyHeritage tree, which will generate MyHeritage Hints which can be added back into FSFT.
02:13:08 Shelley Murphy: I think you are right RandySeaver. RT was heavy with DNA vendors.

DearMYRTLE meets her favorite genealogy mystery writer, Nathan Dylan Goodwin. Here’s our selfie!Nathan Goodwin

You’ll also find his books on Amazon here:
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Nathan Goodwin website

This is DearMYRTLE’s AmbushCAM video featuring Nathan Dylan Goodwin.


02:13:09 Karen Trearchis: Yes, he is a mystery book author
02:13:11 DaveRobison: Nathan Dylan Goodwin
02:14:10 RandySeaver: I spoke to Nathan Goodwin – a very pleasant fellow and I’m reading his latest book, “The Wicked Trade.”
02:15:39 True Lewis: Sharn sent Pudding some lovely gifts. Hilary gave me something from Wales! Love them.
02:16:57 Karen Trearchis: So much fun, I wish I could have been at the party and Rootstech18!
02:17:11 Shelley Murphy: Oh True, I forgot to sign Pudding books.
02:17:26 True Lewis: No Worries. I’ll bring them to MAAGI —!
02:17:47 Bill West: Feel better soon, both of you!
02:18:09 Karen Trearchis: I hope you feel better soon, Russ!
02:18:11 Betty-Lu Burton: I was talking to my son and mentioned the Aussie delegation to RootsTech and he said he knew several from his gaming community that were going to RootsTech. Interesting how the 2 worlds collided
02:18:38 Shelley Murphy: I hope you feel better Cousin Russ
02:18:41 Marian Koalski: Alka Seltzer Plus, Russ
02:18:41 Susan Howard: Thanks, Myrt and Russ!
02:18:46 Shelley Murphy: Thank you

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 5 Feb 2018

During today’s Mondays with Myrt we tackle the following perplexing problems perfectly properly.

  • 100 year anniversary of Women’s Suffrage in the UK
  • Upcoming DearMYRTLE online events
  • 1939 Register
  • Google Calendar – entering new data
  • Jennifer Holik’s WWII research guide books
  • Whether NL stand for Newfoundland and Labrador or the Netherlands?
  • DNA, including Paul Woodbury’s guest post on GeneaMusings
  • Free BMD records at FindMyPast (1939 Register, too)
  • WorldCat
  • #RootsTech


00:29:01 Hilary Gadsby:
00:31:31 Susan Ennis: Hello from Harmony, PA! (Butler County)
00:31:34 Bill West: Good morning from sunny yet gloomy New England.
00:32:11 Dave Robison: I agree, Bill West…”Gloomy” New England!


00:33:48 Cousin Russ: Albion’s Seed Study Group – Wednesday, 7 Feb 2018 “North Midlands to the Delaware: The Friends’ Migration 1675-1725” Syllabus – Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer, 1989 (New York: Oxford University Press). Paperback available from

Registration link for all sessions: we start at 9pm Eastern US (New York)
00:34:00 June Butka: It is a great book. Found the pickle recipe. I will post later to Facebook.
00:34:51 June Butka: We are a diversified county.

00:34:58 Cousin Russ: Plusword – Friday, 9 Feb 2018 – A game show hosted by Sir Michael Daniels. Come support the home team as we meet two other teams in a match of wits. This is a “view and comment” only link. No need to register.

00:40:06 Cousin Russ: Western Massachusetts Genealogical Society
00:40:37 June Butka: The passion does come through Dave.


00:50:57 June Butka: Don’t give up on Message Boards. (Years later is an awesome find.)

00:55:39 True Lewis: Thanks to my Dad serving in WW2 with the 470th Amphibious Truck Unit – Colored Troops.

00:56:47 Betty-Lu Burton: So some of the [RootsTech] presenters already know if they are live-streamed but not all.
00:57:05 Jacqueline Wilson: I had the privilege of meeting Jennifer at the Pritzker Military Museum & Library!!!!

00:59:07 Jennifer Holik: To learn more about WWII Research, books available, articles and more, please visit The World War II Research and Writing Center. New book releases will be announced through our newsletter later this month.

01:00:10 Jennifer Holik: Thank you everyone for having me. If anyone has questions, please feel free to email me at Looking forward to meeting you all at RootsTech in a few weeks.

01:00:18 Cousin Russ: English and Welsh Marriage Certificates to now list mother’s maiden name. Thanks for sharing
01:00:51 Betty-Lu Burton: I think a lot of people will be surprised when the USA celebrate the 100th anniversary of women being able to vote.
01:04:17 Cousin Russ: Free access to FindMyPast B, M and D through 8 Feb
01:04:59 Linda Stufflebean: I have Southern Swedish roots.
01:05:02 Betty-Lu Burton: just Norwegian
01:06:05 Dave Robison: I have dozens of Swedish ancestors through mtDHA results at Family TreeDNA. However, they all must be quite a bit far back as I have never been able to ID any MRCA’s


01:06:14 Cousin Russ: Looking for a book? Try WorldCat
01:06:23 June Butka: I love World Cat.
01:06:27 Danine Cozzens: Just found it a few days ago! Also can find libraries.
01:06:53 Jacqueline Wilson: I use both World Cat & OCLC. And I have found several that I can get thru inter-library loan.
01:09:21 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Love WorldCAT! Us it to research the names of Charles Shackford’s sheet music. Sometimes once I know the name of the music I can find a digital version! Do save the locations but those are sometimes very far away.
01:12:20 Yvonne Demoskoff: I’m making a list of those kinds of digitized books (view only at FHL) to look at when I’m at RootsTech
01:12:46 Dave Robison: Not today, but in a future MWM, we could discuss DPLA.
01:17:41 True Lewis: LoL. Fort Knox. I see it everyday.
01:18:23 Yvonne Demoskoff: Good tips; thanks, Myrt!
01:18:32 Randy Seaver: I went to San Diego FamilySearch Library on 1/24 and looked for things I can’t access at home – got 52 images – see
01:21:25 Jacqueline Wilson: And it is not free to borrow a book.
01:21:35 Karen Trearchis: I can’t find the article on that page.
01:21:55 Valerie Lisk: What is 6 degrees of separation? [Note: See 6 Degrees of Separation at WikiPedia/]

RootsTech Smartphone App
01:22:43 Cousin Russ:
01:22:57 June Butka: More cousins daily since Christmas DNA gifts results coming in now..
01:23:06 Randy Seaver: Paul Woodbury article on DNA in
01:23:16 Jacqueline Wilson: Blaine Bettinger has some great relationship charts that shows possible inheritance patterns. This really helps with adoption relationships
01:24:23 Karen Trearchis: Thank you Randy.

01:26:30 Susan Ennis: Just heard talk from Blaine Bettinger two weeks ago; key point from him: remember to click on the range for your results (i.e. 6%-22% of an ethnicity). Use this to correlate with results from cousins or siblings. Differences are normal. We only get a portion of our DNA from each ancestor.

NL should be Netherlands

01:26:56 Cousin Russ: Yvette Hoitink – How software corrupts our trees
01:27:05 John Laws: I’ve enough to keep my busy every day without DNA
01:28:23 Susan Ennis: A narrow range of the percentages indicates a more accurate result. I had not known that!
01:28:33 June Butka: It stresses the important to not use abreviations.
01:29:54 Randy Seaver: And it stresses to use accurate current country names so that you don’t fool readers and users
01:31:00 Karen Trearchis: The ethnicity results on my “myheritage” results sound reasonable to me as to my heritage. 44% North & West Europe (Irish, Scottish & Welsh; 38.9% South Europe (Greek) & 14% Eastern Europe (Balkan, East European. My background that I was aware of is Irish, a bit English, ?Welsh & Greek & a bit Albanian.)
01:31:47 Betty-Lu Burton: I use the index or abstract to try and determine if it is my family, but I then look at the image for the information I use in my software program

01:34:42 Cousin Russ: FindMyPast – 1939 Register
01:36:57 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Also, originally multiple sources listed the date of a marriage bann as the date of a marriage – seems that FamilySearch recently has added a field for marriage bans or marriage license so with recently indexed documents, this may have been fixed. However as mentioned earlier, when we can, we need to look at the original documents.
01:37:50 Hilary Gadsby: Understand what your record is and why it existed
01:39:13 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Also multiple birth records listed the place the birth was recorded — until you read the record you can’t tell that the specific line states the person was born in ex: Nashua, New Hampshire, not the place in Massachusetts where the birth was recorded. Does not seem to be a place to fix these indexing issues.
01:39:17 Hilary Gadsby: The closer you can get to original is the better

01:42:55 Randy Seaver: FMP says the 1939 Register was used to create ID cards up to 1952.
01:43:49 Pat Kuhn: my number of CM is different with my two cousins that are brother and sister
01:47:05 John Laws: For many years I used Chapmam codes but am now stanardising full address rather than abreviations
01:47:26 Randy Seaver: John, where do Chapman codes come from?

2nd Annual Heirloom Recipe Exchange

01:48:27 Cousin Russ: Myrt’s 2nd Annual Heirloom Recipe Exchange & Pampered Chef Party is ongoing from the 3-15 February 2018. Ask to join the 2nd Annual Heirloom Recipe Exchange & PC Party Facebook Group:
01:48:55 John Laws: Too much sugar / Salt etc
Preserving Family Recipes (book)01:49:20 Cousin Russ: Preserving Family Recipes: How to Save and Celebrate Your Food Traditions
01:51:37 Jacqueline Wilson: Joined
01:53:29 Jacqueline Wilson: Both my grandmother & mother made pickles, did canning, made jams, and froze all kinds of stuff. My grandmother made sauerkraut.
01:53:53 Hilary Gadsby: My mother made jelly and jam and sometimes pickled onions.
01:54:50 Jacqueline Wilson: Senf = mustard according to a German-English dictionary.
01:56:06 Karen Trearchis: I make jam.
01:56:41 Dawn Carlile: My grandmother was still cooking on a wood burning stove in the 1960s.
01:58:34 Karen Trearchis: My grandmother used to make the (Greek) pita dough to make spinach pie. My Dad told me she would roll out the dough with a broom stick on the kitchen table and would make it paper thin.
01:58:57 June Butka: Congratulations on the book.
01:59:35 Karen Trearchis: Sounds great!
02:00:10 June Butka: I learn to cook on a wood burning stove.
02:00:14 Pam Helm: Not sure how my Gram knew we were coming over to visit but she always had tea biscuits in the oven baking for us so we could have them hot with butter and a glass of buttermilk.
02:01:29 Valerie Eichler Lair: Some of the best times with my grandma and her sisters were spent in the kitchen. Great food and recipes shared.
02:01:52 Cousin Russ: Book of Me –
02:02:06 Valerie Eichler Lair: No….I did *not* inherit their baking gene! LOL
02:02:26 Hilary Gadsby: My grandmother used to make great apple pie on a dinner plate.

02:02:37 Cousin Russ: Nicka Smith – Home Training: Why genealogy conferences need a code of conduct

ethnicity02:04:24 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
02:04:57 Jacqueline Wilson: I have never heard of that term – home training – we called it good manners.
02:06:06 Jacqueline Wilson: However, my parents did not teach me about this. They did the opposite – I had to teach myself!

DearMYRTLE's Profile Pic02:07:10 Cousin Russ: The conversation for today’s Webinar continues
02:08:22 Valerie Eichler Lair: Great conversations! Thank you all.

FindMyPast: Oxfordshire, clandestine marriages, and New Zealand record sets

NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following ‘FindMyPast Friday’ info comes from our friends at FindMyPast.

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Oxfordshire marriage bonds 1634-1849

Search more than 46,000 records to discover when, where and to whom your Oxfordshire ancestor was married. Marriage bonds were made as an assurance that no legal impediment existed to prevent a marriage taking place. This was required when a couple chose to marry by licence instead of by banns. While the reading of the banns allowed for individuals to come forward with legal objections to the intended marriage before it had taken place, bonds served as a replacement means of assurance. A marriage bond would only need to be paid out if it was discovered that there was a legal reason the couple should not have been married. The licence would be given to the minister officiating the marriage, and the bond would be given to the Archdeacon’s office.

Britain, marriage licences Browse

Did your ancestor receive a marriage licence between 1446 and 1837? Browse through more than 10,000 records covering fifteen English counties including London, Lancashire, Suffolk, Exeter, Lincoln, Yorkshire to find out. Each record consists of a scanned image of the original document. Records will reveal the couple’s residences, father’s name, marital status and where the marriage took place. A marriage licence was obtained from the Church of England for a fee and with a sworn declaration that there were no legal impediments to the marriage. The licence waived the banns period necessary for a marriage to take place. Marriage licences were first introduced in the 14th century.

England, Clandestine Marriages Browse

Did your ancestor enter into marriage through a clandestine or irregular marriage? Explore more than 42,000 marriages spanning the years 1667 to 1754 to discover their residence, where they were married, the date of their marriage and the name of their spouse. Most of the registers, notebooks, and volumes come from the Fleet area. London’s Fleet Prison was located beside the River Fleet. At the time these records were created, the prison was home to debtors and bankrupts.

Clandestine or irregular marriages were marriages performed outside of the Anglican Church. Until Hardwick’s Law of 1754, the laws around marriage ceremonies were lax. While marriage was technically required to take place in an Anglican church, those performed outside the church were still recognised, categorised as common law marriages. There are a number of reasons why individuals would have participated in these ceremonies. The couple may have wanted to be married in secret and away from their home. There may have been a reason that the marriage needed to be performed quickly. A clandestine marriage also cost far less than a traditional wedding. However, not all reasons were innocent, and the courtrooms heard many cases of people coerced or forced into a marriage or cases of bigamy.

New Zealand Birth Index

Over 19,000 records have been added to the New Zealand Birth Index. Since 1848, births have been recorded in New Zealand and registration has been compulsory since 1858. M?ori births were registered from 1913-1961, separate from the General register. However, some M?ori events were recorded in the General system. Since registration was difficult to enforce, many M?ori births were never registered. The records are from the combined indexes of both the General and M?ori registers.

Each record consists of a transcript that will reveal your ancestor’s name, birth year the first names of their both parents and registration number. Post 1912 records may also include a stillbirth indicator. You can order a printout or certificate from the New Zealand Births, Deaths & Marriages website, which may provide you with additional information such as the couple’s ages, professions, place of marriage, statuses, parents’ names and occupations, and witnesses.

New Zealand Marriage Index

Over 10,000 new records have been added to the New Zealand Marriage Index. The records in this index pertain to individuals who were born 120 years or more ago. Each transcript will include your ancestors name, registration year, registration number and the full name of their spouse. It is important to note the first four digits of the registration refer to the year the event was registered rather than the year of event itself. As more questions were asked for marriage registration after 1880, those later registrations will contain more details.

New Zealand Death Index

Over 32,000 records have been added to the New Zealand Death Index. The collection now contains more than 2.3 million transcripts taken from the combined indexes of both the General and Maori registers. Each record lists the deceased’s name, registration year, birth date or age at death and registration number.