A power-packed discussion of the research process, archived historical newspaper go-to websites, Google Earth and Google Maps “street view”, Progeny’s new DNA option in Charting Companion, RootsWeb message boards and mailing lists, the Ancestry Wiki (now on RootsWeb), Fold3 has British in addition to US Military records. We also locate Family History Ron on Facebook and YouTube.
10:02:49 From June Butka : I’m loving you Research Process videos.
10:04:00 From June Butka : I use Google sheets. I plan to do it in FTM2017 onward along with the Google Sheets.
10:04:56 From Leah Smith to All panelists : I watched the first 2. What a great teaching tool!
10:06:57 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Good morning from South Louisiana.
10:07:31 From Jacqueline Wilson : I am already a member!
10:08:02 From Bill West : Good morning from hazy, hot and humid Massachusetts.
10:09:32 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Nice to see all the panelists 🙂
10:09:48 From Molly McKinley : I have enjoyed many of Russ’s FTM videos.
10:10:07 From June Butka : Year round humidity. That is why the winter chills usand much as the somummer zaps us.
10:10:17 From Jacqueline Wilson : I have not used Google Sheets except with the study groups. Instead, I have been using Excel – I may need to change so I can use my Samsung Tablet at the the Newberry Library.
10:10:57 From June Butka : I like Google Sheet Jacqueline, so I can access when out traveling .
10:11:50 From Rebecca Williams : I do like the new views, ~ seeing all the panelists.
10:14:35 From Bill West : My family gave me an air conditioner as an early birthday present so I don’t have to dealwith the heat and humidity anymore. I can sitting here in the cool and watch it hum out. 🙂
10:15:13 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I have Newspapers. com with Ancestry and upgraded to received more newspapers. A great resource and has helped fill in gaps in families.
10:15:31 From June Butka : I’ve used all of those you mentioned for news. Reminder that Probate are under Ads in some newspapers.
10:15:53 From Lisa Gorrell : you can subscribe and receive email updates on new stuff. from TheAncestorHunt
10:16:10 From Cousin Russ : GenealogyBank Newspapers.com NewspaperArchive.com (findMyPast) Elephind.com – Library of Congress Chronicling America Ken Mark’s TheAncestorHunt
10:16:17 From Randy Seaver : Seavers in the News – https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/07/seavers-in-news.html
10:16:33 From June Butka : I still can’t find the 1823 fire in Gilman Pond Plantation, Maine, in any paper.
10:20:14 From Sue Draper : select all, then you can do more
10:22:49 From Michelle Minner : I already knew how to do this process…but I never thought of it for newspaper and citation! WOO HOO! GREAT idea!
10:22:58 From June Butka : I wanted to learn how to do the citation with the photo. Thank you.
10:23:24 From Hilary Gadsby : Thanks for reminding us of this great tip.
10:23:52 From Susan Ennis : The mid-19th century newspaper articles helped me to break down three brick walls with females!
10:23:58 From Deb Andrew : I found my dh’s great grandmother’s death place in a totally different state, instead of Chicago, IL, she was in Louisiana, on a visit.
10:24:15 From Sue Draper : A stray notice looking for relatives for a probate case led to much information about my immigrant ancestor’s extended family.
10:24:17 From Launa Droescher to All panelists : I have several newspaper copies from film that I need to do that with
10:24:25 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Through an obituary I found out that my husband’s cousin married my great-aunt’s granddaughter.
10:25:04 From Marcia Philbrick : I found that my ancestor, Richard Foster, died from rabies in 1831.
10:25:11 From June Butka : Family Search Pioneer hints provided me with hints of why certain surnames were coming up in my DNA Hints. I was able to fill out my tree with verifiable sources.
10:25:19 From Danine Cozzens : Check ALL the newspapers. In 1878 Visalia, California, a g-g-g-aunt’s wedding rated a civil citation in one paper and was the wedding of the year in its opponent, where the groom was a prominent advertiser.
10:25:36 From Cousin Russ : Those Ancestral Compilations in the AncestryDNA Circles http://rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com/?p=7273
10:25:37 From Lisa Gorrell : I’m lucky I guess that I don’t have many DNA circles.
10:25:42 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Those Ancestral Compilations in the AncestryDNA Circles http://rootdig.genealogytipoftheday.com/?p=7273
10:29:25 From Leah Smith : A DNA match has a daughter born to a woman more than 100 yrs after this woman’s death. Tree owner occasionally corrects and then later the error reappears. Possibly she keeps picking up the same inappropriate record from a hint.
10:30:52 From Michelle Minner : I have learned the hard way, exactly what is being talked about! I used to be a hunter/gatherer…I use ancestry and Family Search and My Heritage…records! and I am making more progress than ever before!
10:32:35 From JoAnn Lawrencw : Maybe we should start a hunter/gatherer support group. Boy I need to learn more to stop being a hunter.gatherer.
10:33:03 From Bill West : I am greatful toAncestry and FamilySearch for the records they posted that helped me discover so much. It’s the trees on both sites that frustrate me.
10:33:07 From Michelle Minner : Yep, I have tried to contact someone that had NO sources or citations…and they added a few husbands to my grandmother that were inaccurate (with no marriage records)…and I sent a nice email and asked for their sources….and was told that I was wrong…and leave their tree and person alone!
10:33:23 From June Butka : I attempted with a link to the sources. If they respond with a source to support their information, I will review mine again.
10:33:27 From JoAnn Lawrencw to All panelists : Thanks to this group, I’ve learn a great more information. Thank you Thanky you.
10:34:35 From Marcia Philbrick : Thanks for pointing out the issue with the circle biography! I clicked on the ‘more about .. ‘ link and it shows images. I’m assuming that at least one person has attached the image. Out of 6 images, only 3 fit the ancestors
10:35:14 From Sue Draper : Those are in the vault, too. Maybe recent acquisitions, so they are not reels or images.
10:35:38 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : My problem is that I have people who are stating with dna and using there relationship with thier matches to build thier tree. With basicly no document research.
10:35:59 From Marcia Philbrick : I have my icons for Woodson County, Kansas — Marriage Records (under vital records) — I have a camera and a film icon for two different record sets.
10:36:32 From Sue Draper : You can request availability.
10:36:56 From Hilary Gadsby : We all need to be aware that we can make mistakes and need to look at what we do. Ithought I had found an error at the weekend but when I checked again later I realised I had missed something. Fortunately I had not changed anything but just left a comment which I could delete.
10:36:57 From June Butka : Icon that were there 2 days ago are not there now in Maine Land Deeds
10:39:05 From Marcia Philbrick : camera with a key
10:40:58 From Sue Draper : could be priorities too, land is below vital
10:41:21 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I am having a problem with Hampshire West End registers
10:41:52 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : It is sending my around in cicles.
10:42:27 From Jacqueline Wilson : I have both page and camera
10:43:39 From Randy Seaver : You could join one of the FS Communities which act like a message board.
10:47:31 From June Butka : Love Family History Ron.
10:47:50 From Randy Seaver : FamilySearch Communities https://community.familysearch.org/s/
10:48:17 From Sue Draper : I watch it when I’m not at a folk dance Thursday.
10:48:22 From June Butka : The link to the Land deed records from Maine, I saved does still work. The Icon is not there on the Family Search site.
10:49:45 From Michelle Minner : Myrt….I have a member of my family search Facebook group (jane’s gang) who has done a LOT of chinese research…and written a book that is in the SLC Family History Center Library. If you need a referral, I can hook you up with her!
10:50:05 From Hilary Gadsby : I have joined the England and British Isles Communities
10:51:42 From Deb Andrew : It’s under help
11:04:16 From Deb Andrew : I am
11:04:20 From June Butka : Yes
11:04:22 From Sue Draper : I am, using Excel
11:04:23 From Karen Trearchis : I do
11:04:27 From Danine Cozzens : Moi!
11:05:24 From Deb Andrew : I was a beta tester for the DNA Matrix when Pierre brought that in to Charting Companion.
11:05:54 From Deb Andrew : It does work nicely with FTM, Roots Magic and Legacy, I tested those three.
11:06:37 From June Butka : My Uncle was in the RAF, he was on loan from the USAF
11:06:42 From Cousin Russ : https://go.fold3.com/commonwealth
11:06:56 From Karen Trearchis : What is the link for charting companion?
11:09:49 From Cousin Russ : FOLD 3 TRAINING CENTER https://www.fold3.com/tour/
11:12:37 From Molly McKinley : I have one for my brother on Fold 3
11:13:40 From Molly McKinley : We have one for my ggrandfather placed with his family.
11:25:04 From Michelle Minner : I used google earth to find my grandparents home…and it is still kept up, occupied and wonderful…my mother cried seeing her old home in a picture I took off Google Earth.
IMAGE: From Google Earth to “street view” 737 2nd St NW, Puyallup, Washington, owned by DearMYRTLE’s grandmother in the 1950s.
11:27:29 From Pat Kuhn : I use Google Earth to find where everyone has lived and I pin them
11:28:21 From Pamela Wells : Pat, I do, too!
11:30:41 From Michelle Minner : I took a girlfriend to Devonshire (near Plymouth) from sitting here in the living room in Tucson, Arizona!
IS LETTER WRITING DEAD? Not by a long shot!
11:31:44 From Denise Coughlin : I plan on following Tim’s example and write a letter a day in August!!
11:31:57 From Randy Seaver : I’m going to use Google Earth and Maps for my WDYTYA presentation at the CVGS Family History Day – tell my subject where he can visit his ancestors birthplaces.
11:33:14 From Randy Seaver : Thats’ beautiful, Pat. Thank you for the example and idea. [NOTE from DearMYRTLE: My grandkids should receive their personal letters via snail mail delivery tomorrow!]
11:34:43 From Karen Trearchis : I know you have a great time, Pat!
DearMYRTLE’s very distant Cousin, Sweet Sadie, joins Cousin Russ in hosting this webinar as we look at various search strategies including the following websites:
The concept for searching a database for all possible ancestors, since you’ve worked hard to get the citation perfected. Then it is just a matter of copy/paste and a tweak to include the correct name for the ancestor in question.
19:00:41 From Debi Polen : Hello!
19:02:17 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
19:05:28 From shelleymurphy : Good evening all!
MULTIPLE MONITORS, MULTIPLE WEBSITES OPEN
19:07:40 From shelleymurphy : I typically have ancestry and familysearch both open when I am researching.
19:07:49 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hi, Debi and Shelley!
19:10:28 From Molly : I like to have my genealogy database open, Familysearch and Ancestry. This helps me switch back and forth; if the question is not answered with one, I try the other.
19:17:53 From Dustin Austin : Yes – I believe it should! Follow the FAN
19:18:09 From Debi Polen : My DB has FAN Club members too
19:18:45 From Dustin Austin to All panelists : It REALLY Helps with DNA matching as well!
19:22:57 From shelleymurphy : Same here Molly!
19:24:34 From Susan Bleimehl : I don’t know what military unit my father served with in WWII and I have no papers from him, but in his best buddy’s obituary, whom we vacationed with as children, had a memtion of what unit he served with. Since they met in the service, I am assuming they were in the same unit and am currently persuing this line of inquiry. Without searching the FAN club and having him in my tree as a person of interest, I’d still be in the dark about a possible service unit for my dad.
IMAGE: Robert Kehrer, Finding Elusive Records in FamilySearch, YouTube video, (https://youtu.be/Rn2VY-wSfkw : viewed 29 Jan 2018) Includes the following three segments with insightful search strategies. Robert is the program manager for FamilySearch “Search” and “Hint” features.
19:29:24 From Molly : By doing that, putting in Florida, United States, I found the death certificates for 1905-1939! There were browsable and I found my grandparents’ death certificates. It was a lot of work, but so much worth the time.
19:49:19 From shelleymurphy : Wow! two different records on the same day.
19:51:12 From shelleymurphy : Wow……wow…okay he made it out. whew.
19:52:01 From Debi Polen : Fold3’s search is not as robust in alternate spellings as Family Search / Ancestry
19:55:19 From shelleymurphy : I use fold3 all the time
To answer Susan Bleimehl’s question about finding military records, Sweet Sadie recommends:
20:02:33 From Cousin Russ : Jennifer Holik’s WWII Education Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/wwiieducation/?ref=br_rs
20:02:40 From Cousin Russ : Jennifer Holik’s WWI Books at Amazon https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=jennifer+holik
20:03:39 From Susan Bleimehl : Thanks, I’ll pursue those items.
20:04:04 From Deb : Her guy found the morning reports for my dad.
20:04:07 From Sherry Wilmes : Last week at NARA Washington, DC, there were more than 120 pages for my 3x grandfather and grandmother I payroll cards and pension file, The Innovation Hub scanning process will give my family an online record each can use to examine their story! I learned about that from Dear Myrtle and Cousin Russ. Thanks again to you and NARA!
10:06:13 From June Butka : I have several Rev. War Patriots, however none in the DAR or SAR are for my Line. I believe I now can join. with the information I collected for my Mayflower line.
10:08:20 From marian koalski : Ditto in Massachusetts, John!
10:08:31 From Dawn Carlile : It is definitely spring in Oregon!
10:08:40 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Snow testerday, sun sun sun today…so far in Upstate NY
10:09:00 From Randy Seaver : spring in San Diego area – was gray this morning, but clearing off now.
10:09:14 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : beautiful spring NOT HUMID day in Houston
10:10:59 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Maureen Taylor, the Photo Detective https://maureentaylor.com/
10:11:48 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I read recently even if you are not going to a society to do an app as great research tool.
10:13:06 From Holly Hansen : 2018 International Family History Expo https://familyhistoryexpos.com/viewevent/index/190
10:13:55 From June Butka : I have several Rev. War Patriots, however none in the DAR or SAR are for my Line. I believe I now can join. with the information I collected for my Mayflower line.
10:17:35 From Holly Hansen : https://familyhistoryexpos.com/calldescriptions/index/190
10:19:14 From Shelley Murphy : June, if you need any help with DAR, let me know.
10:21:16 From June Butka : I’ll wait.
10:21:45 From June Butka : Mine were. They are registered, not just my line.
10:21:47 From Sheri Fenley : June – proving a new patriot is a very good thing! Need to prove service and residence
10:22:13 From June Butka : thank you all for the help offer.
10:22:41 From Rachel Evans : I have several options to join DAR with but I want to enter under a female ancestor who nursed her brother and another man wounded in service.
10:24:01 From Sheri Fenley : Excellent idea!
10:25:59 From June Butka : Both Ancestry and Family Search were slow and needed to be refreshed.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: Sunday is always a big research day at FamilySearch. I don’t even venture out there if I can help it.
10:26:03 From Sheri Fenley : Wow I was on ancestry.com this morning and had no problems
10:26:29 From Melinda Culpon : Has anyone else see the doubling of middle names on ancestry recently?
10:26:57 From Valerie Lisk : Last night I did a Google search and was directed to 6 records on #Ancestry that did not show up on my Ancestry search.
10:27:04 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I have experienced searches being faulty. I found an ancestor by searching a child but there he was under the name I had previously searched very clealy. He didn’t show up when I searched by his name. This type of thing has happened often.
10:27:11 From marian koalski : Is the slowness appearing in Ancestry’s record searches or only on the DNA connection databases?
10:27:12 From June Butka : I’ve seen mutliple listing of records I knew only had one entry by me on my tree.
10:27:17 From Janine Edmée Hakim : I have a “devil of a time” trying to add to/edit information on records
10:27:49 From Melinda Culpon : Record searches for me Mariann.
10:28:08 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I don’t trust ancestry search results anymore.
10:29:24 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Is there any way to do a joint complaint?
10:29:45 From June Butka : Russ, when you said June, did you mean I’m updating my database?
10:29:47 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Speed is not the problem for me.
10:30:04 From Cousin Russ to June Butka : Yes you, June
10:30:12 From Deb Andrew : I had all three problems mentioned. My computer is the lastest and greatest you can have, high internet speed and band width.
10:30:34 From Bill West : I have had a hint leat for my great grandfather for a database that is no longer available. The leaf has been there for almost a year and I can’t remove it because the database isn’t available. Grrr.
10:31:57 From Deb Andrew : When, dh talked to him last week (he is in the tech industry) they told him, #Ancestry had fired their whole IT tech team.
10:33:43 From Randy Seaver : Deb, who did your did you talk to? At Ancestry? Fired IT team? wow.
10:34:43 From Dawn Carlile : Fold3 has many errors in their indexed records and I probably put in 80-100 corrections one evening and it was mainly that they did not sync with the images or the wrong info was typed, not that they couldn’t read they record. It was for WWI & WWII pension index cards.
10:34:47 From Dave Robison : “Speeling duzn’t cownt”
10:35:24 From Deb Andrew : DH talked to a manager at Ancestry. The first person tried to tell him nothing was wrong, he then asked to talk to a manager.
10:36:04 From Hilary Gadsby : If the records have been mistranscribed originally the corrections do not come over to Family Search just the original transcription. I found one for an Eleanor which had come over as something else just this weekend
10:36:30 From Randy Seaver : thank you, Deb. Amazing. Of course, they don’t have a server farm anymore. Management changes ==> layoffs ==> customer problems
10:36:49 From Dawn Carlile : I hear from professional researchers and they are bookmarking the records they use frequently so they can easily find them. Even if indexed they do not show up in the searches.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: I recommend downloading each document, and citing it in your desktop genealogy database program. Your citation would conform with Elizabeth Shown Mills’ thinking including date viewed. See:
10:37:24 From Dawn Carlile : On familysearch I always check the ONLINE box.
10:37:39 From June Butka : I find if you look at the citation and see a film number and image number, use those numbers in the catalog search , not the collection. I found more that way without getting the index with no image. There were images available.
10:37:51 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Dawn – what does the ONLINE box accomplish?
10:38:08 From Deb Andrew : Ancestry said it would all be fix probably in two weeks, but no more than a month. I doubt it.
10:38:25 From Dawn Carlile : It only shows you results that are digitized so you do not have to keep clicking and loking to see what is digitized,
10:38:41 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : Russ, can you highlgiht Deb Andrew’s comments?
10:38:43 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I agree – the soundex helped me find a record that I couldn’t find otherwise on ancestry.
10:38:43 From Melissa Barker : Internet Archive is a great resource!
10:39:55 From Randy Seaver : Pension cards or draft registration cards?
10:41:43 From marian koalski : That leads to low morale among the remaining staff, too.
10:41:50 From Cousin Russ : https://www.familysearch.org/catalog/search
10:42:03 From Cousin Russ :https://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records
10:42:04 From DearMYRTLE to Cousin Russ(Privately) : https://www.ancestry.com/
10:43:32 From Dawn Carlile : Randy, it is under pension cards.
10:44:02 From Sherry Everett : I’m fairly new to genealogy and my first time here. so I’m sorry I know none of the people on the panel. thank you for providing info
10:44:10 From Valerie Lisk : What i the advantage of WikiTree over Familysearch?
10:45:00 From Dave Robison to Sherry Everett : Sherry Everett—Welcome to Mondays With Myrt!!
10:45:01 From June Butka : Those who offered DAR/SAR help can PM at Facebook June Stearns Butka.
10:45:01 From Micki Minner : I never could figure out how to use WikiTree…might be a good session for me to attend and learn
10:51:44 From Bill West : It drives me crazy that MyHeritage emails me they’ve found new records and most of them are not records but family trees on WikiTree and Geni.com. They are NOT records, they are trees!
10:52:05 From Kathleen` Newbill to All panelists : I agree with Bill West…it’s very frustrating!
10:52:33 From Valerie Lisk : I have RootsMagic and a tree on Familysearch. A DNA pedigree tree on all of the testing sites. I didn’t know if it was worth adding another online tree.
10:53:36 From DearMYRTLE : Daniel Horowitz is the Chief Genealogy Officer at MyHeritage.com
10:54:22 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Yes, Micki, WikiTree is hard to learn. One also has to have documentation — and list it all, for each person and event, which is good, but very time consuming when you have lots of people to add and no matches to others already on WikiTree. Also, when I finally found a person that was already on the tree however the person I contacted has still not replied so the person hasn’t been added as yet. That was a couple of months ago.
10:54:48 From Maria Tegtmeier : Speaking of DNA, I appreciated Pat sharing Thomas MacEntee’s post on FB about National DNA day and DNA scams.
10:54:56 From Cyndy Bray : I agree with Bill and Russ. Most of the trees I get from My Heritage are not sourced at all.
10:55:16 From Randy Seaver : Remember that WikiTree started before FamilySearch Family Tree, but after other collaborative trees like OneGreatFamily, One World Tree, etc.
10:56:13 From Randy Seaver : A WikiTree advantage is being able to upload a GEDCOM file, but you have to match your GEDCOM profiles to existing profiles.
10:56:28 From Dawn Carlile : Randy – The Fold3 description is Veterans Administration Pension Payment Cards, This image is an example. https://www.fold3.com/image/591268767
10:56:58 From marian koalski : The WikiTree presentation is visually difficult for me. I like their philosophy and efforts, but it’s hard for me to scan and separate the person’s profile from other stuff on the page.
10:57:36 From Sherry Everett : So for a novice, which is the best place to start? Ancestry or someplace else?
10:57:38 From Linda Jordan : Also, when I finally found a person that was already on the tree however the person I contacted has still not replied so the person hasn’t been added as yet. That was a couple of months ago.
10:59:51 From Randy Seaver : thank you, Dawn. I didn’t know about that collection. i’ll check it out later.
11:00:59 From Randy Seaver : Jackie – WikiTree is FREE, Geni.com is not for the big tree. WikiTree has GEDCOM upload, Geni does not. WikiTree has 17 million profiles, Geni claims 120 million.
11:02:08 From Randy Seaver : Geni provides Hints from MyHeritage, no Hints on WikiTree. Sources are prominent on WikiTree, nonexistent on Geni. WikiTree for genealogists, Geni started as a family photo sharing site.
11:03:12 From marian koalski : Yes, I like FamilySearch’s layout
11:05:00 From Rachel Evans : I think I spend more time in the Family Search trees fixing things. I have an ancestor who people keep changing his name and children to someone else’s. I put a discussion in his profile but people keep changing it back. It does get fustrating at times.
11:05:08 From Cyndy Bray : Famiy Search tree has errors for my famiy, not sure how to correct
11:05:12 From Dawn Carlile : I prefer the list of siblings and children on FamilySearch. The paragraph is to hard to scan and spot names.
11:05:21 From marian koalski : On FamilySearch, when I click on a fact, it will tell me which sources apply to it.
11:06:47 From Holly Hansen : You can watch ancestors or any individual in FamilySearch’s Tree, with email notifications that alert you to changes made. You can turn this on or off.
11:06:48 From Randy Seaver : I use FamilySearch’s Tree extensively because it will be long lasting and is BIG. But it has problems with duplicate profiles and anyone can change a profile. I use RootsMagic to match my RM persons to FSFT profiles and exchange data back and forth, standardize FSFT place names, etc.
11:07:44 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Does FamilySearch only allow a person to have one tree uploaded? [NOTE from DearMYRTLE: it’s one big tree, and we each add to it.]
11:08:10 From Jackie Wilson : I just saw that a woman just died this month – she was proved to have been born in 1900!
11:08:47 From Maria Tegtmeier : I love how RootsMagic integrates with FamilySearch. They are powerful together.
11:10:29 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I have Legacy Family Tree.
11:10:36 From Shelley Murphy : I think I will set once a week time to work on my Roots Magic tree…I am not using it to its fullest. I get too busy chases DNA matches.
11:11:03 From Randy Seaver : FamilySearch Tree is the biggest available collaborative tree. I’ve found the 19th and early 20th century families are pretty accurate with few duplicates. Much of the data was input by LDS members from family records. 17th century profiles can be problematic – multiple sets of parents, multiple sets of children, duplicate spouses, etc.
11:11:55 From Randy Seaver : FST is set up to have discussions, to have sources, to have notes, including research notes. Users need to use all of that to foster better collaboration.
11:13:13 From Valerie Lisk : I met 3 previously unknown cousins on FST.
11:13:14 From Randy Seaver : Roxanne – watch some of the Legacy videos about using LFT with FamilySearch Family Tree.
11:13:52 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Thanks Randy. Will do asap.
11:15:10 From marian koalski : The LFT videos are excellent, and they teach methods that could (should) be applied to other packages, too (like how to add sources, how to name places, etc.)
11:16:06 From Maria Tegtmeier : I like the FamilySearch Memory App [that syncs with my profile, or an ancestors’ at ]FamilySearch. You can easily record a memory or upload a picture and quickly link it to person.
11:16:54 From Deb Andrew : I had a issue with that, family said man was the father, when he was not, but his brother. I had to use DNA to prove it.
11:17:06 From Valerie Lisk : I added it once I found DNA proof. That’s what happened to my paternam grandmother.
11:17:28 From Dawn Carlile : I would add it to my RootsMagic tree and the source would say family tradition, who told me, etc.
11:17:38 From Dawn Carlile : DNA!
11:18:29 From Dawn Carlile : Keep in mind that those siblings were probably told that info by the same person.
11:26:02 From marian koalski : I put “maybe” at the front of the possible surname, like “maybe Franklin”
11:27:14 From Cousin Russ : DNA DAY and Thomas MacEntee’s warning – https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10160353011115374/
11:27:20 From Deb Andrew : I put an open note on Ancestry for a challenged descendant and why it is challenged.
11:30:02 From Micki Minner : I am the oldest of 4, and all 4 of us siblings have all different DNA percentages…however, I also found that 1 of us do not have the same mother and father as the other 3! Blaine Bettinger helped me determine that she must have been adopted or taken in by my parents. Shock to all of us! NOBODY knew…yes, I agree…even family tradition should be noted in your files! I have “suspicions” about her parentage, but no proof “yet”
11:30:25 From Shelley Murphy : I submitted a Living DNA test and waiting to see what comes back vs the other tests I have taken.
11:30:30 From Randy Seaver : I would add “Transfer raw data to GEDMatch” also, which is FREE.
11:30:34 From Shelley Murphy : “Cousin Bait”.
11:30:45 From Micki Minner : YEA…COUSIN BAIT!
11:30:52 From Betsey Cotter to All panelists : If I tested my parents, is there any reason to test my siblings?
11:31:31 From Randy Seaver : FTDNA, MyHeritage and GEDMatch have chromosome browsers that can help you find common DNA segments and identify common ancestors.
11:31:32 From Shelley Murphy : MyHeritage results came back and is a bit different then ancestry and 23andme. It was interesting.
11:32:16 From Shelley Murphy : When will Ancestry put up a chromosome browser?
11:33:14 From Randy Seaver : Shelley, they have resisted forever. We need a browser, but also the tools to identify chromosome segments that match.
11:33:47 From Kathleen` Newbill to All panelists : I thought the question was exclusionary…you and your siblings can only have the DNA your parents have. If they’ve tested, won’t their DNA cover the ground as far as relatives are concerned?
11:34:09 From Randy Seaver : MyHeritage has done a great job with the tools in a short time.
11:34:18 From Deb Andrew : I view testing siblings along with parents, is that the siblings, including yourself adds another layer for the future generations who are trying to reach back.
11:34:43 From Shelley Murphy : Living DNA was at Rootstech…it was also an interesting sales pitch.
11:35:04 From Shelley Murphy : I want to learn DNA Painter.
11:36:38 From Micki Minner : DNA Painter helped me a LOT! I would get DNA “matches” that I couldn’t figure out…and on DNA Painter you can easily see what side of the family the match lands!
11:36:42 From Bill West : I know of someone who insists that DNA testing is the final word in confirming the accuracy of a family tree but where results for siblings can differ I don’t think that is true.
11:36:59 From Valerie Lisk : They have linked Blaine’s cM chart to DNApainter as a calculator. You can change the amount of cM and see the posible relationships.
11:38:30 From Cousin Russ : DNA PAINTERhttps://dnapainter.com/
11:39:07 From Cousin Russ : DNA DAY and Thomas MacEntee’s warning video – https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10160353011115374/
11:39:33 From Cousin Russ : DNAQuest (pro bono by MyHeritage) is now world wide https://www.dnaquest.org/
11:40:32 From marian koalski : Is that young woman going to head-punch her grandmother with her hat?
11:40:39 From Shelley Murphy : They are building their nitch!
11:41:09 From Shelley Murphy : My numbers were different vs ancestryDNA
11:42:36 From Dawn Carlile : Not that one. It is the MyHeritage DNA, not Geoff Live.
11:43:29 From Cousin Russ : Hands-On with MyHeritageDNA https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=792
11:43:48 From Cyndy Bray : MyHeritage webinars are always free on Legacy’s Family Tree Webinars.
11:43:49 From Shelley Murphy : It’s the best $49 a year I have spent.
11:43:56 From Dawn Carlile : Geoff is also related to Ron Snir, I think it was him. One of the two men from MyHeritage that day anyway.
11:44:20 From Cousin Russ : Gail Dever Petition to save WWI-era Ukrainian internee cemetery in Quebec http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=23508
11:44:22 From Randy Seaver : Ethnicity estimates with different companies are varied – I’ve found 23andMe and MyHeritage are best for me. It has everything to do with the reference groups used to identify n ethnicity
11:44:32 From Cousin Russ : Judy Russell’s NARA DIGITIZED RECORDS http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/20/and-another-thing/
11:44:46 From Cousin Russ : We CONTINUE our discussion here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/102461242403735457058/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/DSxgndQdEqp
11:45:05 From Cousin Russ : This technology will become available by the end of the year? Wow! https://thefamilycurator.com/how-to-preserve-and-test-old-letters-for-grandmas-dna/
11:45:07 From Valerie Lisk : They have sales were it’s 40% off and usually Thomas M. gives a coupon code for an additional 15% off.
11:45:08 From Cousin Russ : .
11:47:34 From Donna Burleaud : Thanks for keeping us so well informed about genealogy topics!
11:47:52 From Janine Edmée Hakim : te title of the article is Can DNA testing be trusted? The shockingly imprecise science of a proven courtroom tool
11:47:56 From Shelley Murphy : Good talk today…enjoy the rest of your day!
11:48:20 From Dawn Carlile : Wonderful information once again!
11:48:23 From Danine Cozzens : So much helpful info today — thanks to all!
11:48:37 From Randy Seaver : Janine, thery don’t use the genealogy tools for criminal testing – they use other DNA test methods.
11:48:41 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Great Hang out!
11:49:08 From Deb Andrew : Yes,
11:50:28 From Hilary Gadsby : I am going to get some birthday cake and more tea. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
11:50:45 From Tina Torsey : What Chapter are we doing Wed?
11:53:36 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group, Wednesday, April 25, 2018 Chapter 4 “Evidence”, Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)
SYLLABUS – Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback
11:53:51 From Tina Torsey to All panelists : thanks
11:56:30 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Thanks Randy Seaver… good to know that the DNA that might be collected from an artifact or stamp will be more accurately analyzed and therefore be reliable when it is used for genealogy.
Wednesday, 25 April 2018 THE ARCHIVE LADY, 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles) We are delighted to feature our resident archivist Melissa LeMaster Barker, who serves as the Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives. A popular genealogical speaker, author and blogger, Melissa is also the FGS Forum Reviews Editor.
11:59:25 From Valerie Lisk : John do you know approx. how much you need per day in Stratford Upon Avon for food etc?
12:01:06 From Valerie Lisk : How much would a pub meal be. We are doing the hop on hop off bus.
12:02:39 From Valerie Lisk : I’m trying to make sure I load my travel card with enogh money.
12:02:40 From Kathleen` Newbill : 12 to 15 Euro per person when I was in Belfast in February.
Tune in to the archived version of our latest webinar – Mondays with Myrt held 29 Jan 2018. You’ll find selected chat dialog and the links we mention below this embedded video.
We looked at Pat Kuhn’s ancestor’s “young men’s” WWII draft card indexed at Ancestry pointing to the image on Fold3, and caution all to watch what information gets shared during a Family Tree Maker sync or RootsMagic share option.Many explained they manually update their personal database with images from hints on various websites. That way transcriptions are most accurate, and citations can be custom crafted.
DearMYRTLE is concerned when people use the FamilySearch prompt with possible names for temple work. These are prompts for research to ensure the name and identifying info is truly an ancestor. We find out what Elizabeth Shown Mills has to say about the necessity of citing a repository – there is one instance where it is essential.
Moving on, we tackled the various RootsTech passes (different days/prices) and that it’s best to download the handouts via computer so you can save the file with a recognizable name. Dropbox would make these available to any of your devices. One may take the TRAX train from the airport if your hotel does not have a shuttle. See the embedded map below.
Find out about hashtags, #GenChat, and Tweet Deck for what Cheri Passey calls “The fastest hour in genealogy!”
Wednesday, 31 Jan 2018 – 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles) The South of England to Virginia: Distressed Cavaliers and Indentured Servants 1642-75
Registration link for all sessions: https://zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_uOEpyna0QZWA6QNEE0GWUQ
Plusword – A game show hosted by Sir Michael Daniels. Come support the home team as we meet two other teams in a match of wits. This is a “view and comment” only link. No need to register. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK-vumCmPV8 Starts at 10pm Eastern US (New York) Friday, 9 Feb 2018.
RootsTech (Genealogy & technology conference) where DearMYRTLE is serving as an official RT Ambassador. 28 Feb through 3 March 2018 – at the Salt Palace in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah. Registration link: http://www.RootsTech.org
Selected Chat Comments
00:36:32 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Good Morning from California.
00:36:57 Bill West: Good morning from a gloomy south of Boston
00:37:18 Pam Helm: Good Morning
00:39:47 Lisa Gorrell: Good morning, everyone!
00:41:20 JohnLaws: Hi from a cold but bright North Berwick
00:44:31 Deb Andrew: She only needs theFold3 subscription, doesn’t have to upgrade the Ancestry account.
00:51:41 Betty-Lu Burton: The age is wrong. The card says 19 Ancestry says 20
00:54:04 Bill West: This is why I’m leery of syncing my Ancestry & RootsMagic trees. I download all records to my HD the old fashioned way and enter all data from the image,itself, not the transcription.
00:56:01 Lisa Gorrell: Be careful. This collection is not complete. Keep checking back. I did not find my two grandfathers’ cards. But I do have them from NARA.
00:57:04 June Butka: I found that names were added to my family Search tree that I didn’t add. I also found I could not add a second wife if the other wife’s name is already there.
00:58:09 RandySeaver: This is why I don’t attach records from Ancestry to my RootsMagic tree, and create my own source citatyions.
00:58:45 HilaryGadsby: Look at what the dataset covers I am looking for someone born in Illinois but they are not online yet.
00:59:39 Marian Koalski: I’m opinionated too, Randy. And Ancestry’s citations don’t have the needed info to re-find the record, even if you overlook their whimsical formatting
01:00:24 June Butka: It was a record hint I was trying to add. I can add them independently.
01:00:25 Betty-Lu Burton: FamilySearch will split large databases into smaller groups so they can start to get the information out sooner. Los Angeles County Death records are in at least 4 groups and we are working on reviewing the 3 and 4 groups. Still have a long way to go
01:00:46 HilaryGadsby: I have added second wife at Family Search
01:06:47 RandySeaver: duplicate Facts occur in RootsMagic when you merge a person with another
01:11:04 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
01:12:24 RandySeaver: My research/opinion/news/stuff blog is www.geneamusings.com
01:14:38 HilaryGadsby: Can you share a calendar with just a few people?
01:16:12 RandySeaver: Way back when, I entered only libraries and public repositories because that’s where I found books or records. The repositories I entered 15 years ago are still in my source records.
01:16:28 Betty-Lu Burton: If it is on line then it has a URL and not a repository. Is not a repository a brick and morter building?
01:18:26 HilaryGadsby: Putting something online publishes it but what is published may only be an image not the original. What you cite depends upon what you see.
01:21:04 RandySeaver: Launa – I would state that in the repository field, and/or in the source comment field in RootsMagic
01:24:06 June Butka: The box wasn’t checked off above the previous link that said not shareable.
01:26:34 Marian Koalski: I think entering the repository is useful to everyone in the case of a rare book, too.
01:28:13 Cousin Russ: Linda – The Blog has a search field
01:28:22 Cousin Russ:https://www.rootstech.org
01:28:50 Cheri Passey: Dave, can’t wait to meet you in person at RootsTech!
01:30:11 Lisa Gorrell: This will be my first time at RootsTech. Couldn’t believe how many classes there are!
01:31:14 RandySeaver: It took almost an hour last night to download the Wednesday handouts from http://app.core-apps.com/rootstech2018/events/view_by_day?tracks&type
01:31:21 Cheri Passey: So glad you will be there, Lisa!
01:31:55 RandySeaver: I’m going to download each day on different nights – it’s boring and requires attention to detail
01:32:47 Yvonne Demoskoff: Some of the labs are already filled up; darn.
01:33:38 Betty-Lu Burton: They still do not have the broadcast classes listed yet
01:34:38 RandySeaver: Betty-Lu – they usually announce them a week or so before it starts. You can sometimes suss it out by the Hall it uses. I think Hall C.
01:35:01 Betty-Lu Burton: Thanks Randy
01:37:26 Cousin Russ: 7 Ways the Mobile App Will Enhance Your RootsTech Experience https://www.rootstech.org/blog/7-ways-the-mobile-app-will-enhance-your-rootstech-experience [NOTE: The RootsTech mobile app, sponsored by WordPress, is now available for download from the App Store and the Google Play Store. ]
01:37:46 Yvonne Demoskoff: On the app, when I click to view Exhibit Hall in “Maps”, it closes the app; does anyone have this problem, too?
01:38:33 HilaryGadsby: Not tried it yet Yvonne
01:39:16 Yvonne Demoskoff: Oh ok, Hilary
01:39:34 RandySeaver: When I save the handout, I edit the file name for speaker name and title of the talk. Example: “Thomas Macentee – Using pinterest”
01:39:44 RandySeaver: It was the same thing as last year.
01:40:02 HilaryGadsby: Yvonne I will try after the webinar
01:41:40 Yvonne Demoskoff: Thanks, Hilary!
01:42:16 Dawn Carlile: That is what I did last year. I copy the title off the screen.
[NOTE:Here’s a Google Map of downtown Salt Lake City. Br sure to look for Harmon’s, our local grocery store with the great deli-department we mentioned during this show.]
01:43:53 HilaryGadsby: Going to Blue Lemon for Commonwealth Dinner this year
01:45:08 Yvonne Demoskoff: The Holiday Inn Express is across the street from the south entrance to the Salt Palace; very convenient
01:45:22 Dawn Carlile: Blue Iguana is excellent for Mexican food and the Siegried’s Deli is great.
01:46:29 Dawn Carlile: And they have a food court with lots of options at City Creek.
01:47:53 Dawn Carlile: If you need exercise you can walk to Harmon’s where they have a wonderful salad bar and you can eat upstairs or take it with you.
01:49:12 Yvonne Demoskoff: My husband and I bought a few food items from Harmon’s to bring back to our room at the hotel.
01:50:17 Linda Stufflebean: Hope the GeneaBloggers meet for lunch again at the Blue Lemon. [Yes, we will meet on Tuesday for lunch at 1pm.]
01:50:39 Cheri Passey: Me too. Linda!
01:51:05 HilaryGadsby: I need to check how to get from airport to The Radisson
01:51:34 Lisa Gorrell: Hilary, you can ride the TRAX. [ This is the link to the Trax website: https://www.rideuta.com/Services/TRAX ]
01:51:44 Lisa Gorrell: I’m at the Radisson, too.
01:52:38 RandySeaver: We use the Express Shuttle service to/from SLC airport – only $10 per person
01:53:14 HilaryGadsby: When do you arrive?
01:53:54 Cousin Russ: http://www.genealogygenchat.com/ #genchat
01:54:31 Cheri Passey: #genchat is so much fun! I call it the fastest hour in genealogy! I learn something new every time!
01:55:31 HilaryGadsby: I like Genchat but wrong time for me in the UK participate when I remember if I can
01:57:09 HilaryGadsby: I have used tweetdeck in the past
01:59:27 Cheri Passey: I use Tweetchat.com. One you enter the hashtag and join the group, it automatically puts it in for you.
02:00:23 RandySeaver: I’ve used Tweetchat and you get only the #genchat items in last first order. You can upload your message too.
02:00:41 Cheri Passey: Anna, that just means it will tweet into the chat with your account. It doesn’t produce tweets for you, it just shares what you tweet into the group.
02:03:15 AnnaMatthews: Thank you, Cheri. That’s good to know because I wanted to check it out.
02:03:42 Cousin Russ: The Legal Genealogist Judy Russell discusses obtaining DNA from a deceased relative. http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/01/28/another-look-at-dna-life-after-death/
02:08:19 HilaryGadsby: I might make it to Game Night in February
02:09:25 HilaryGadsby: I will miss MwM on Monday after RootsTech as will be travelling home from SLC.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: The following was received from our friends at Fold3.com.
On September 17, Ken Burns and Lynn Novick’s highly anticipated 10-part documentary The Vietnam War will begin airing. In the meantime, brush up on your knowledge of the conflict on Fold3 with the more than 21 million records in our Vietnam War collection.
There are currently 17 titles in our Vietnam Collection, and each provides a unique perspective on the decades-long conflict. If you’re not sure where to start, below we’ve spotlighted 5 titles that will be sure to interest you:
Vietnam Service Awards: This title includes candidates for Meritorious Unit Commendations, Navy Unit Commendations, Presidential Unit Citations, Presidential Unit Commendations, Valorous Unit Awards, and Vietnam Unit Awards. Not only do the records in this title contain explanations and the history of each recommendation, but they also describe the missions, list the soldiers, and outline the process of approving or disapproving the award.
Medal of Honor Recipients: Citations for Vietnam War Medal of Honor recipients are included in this title. The citations tell you when and where the Medal of Honor action occurred and typically give a fairly extensive description of the action and why it was considered deserving of a Medal of Honor. The Vietnam War medal citations begin on page 799 of the first volume (1863-1978). There are also a few Vietnam-era citations in the second volume (1979-2013), beginning on page 28.
The Pentagon Papers: This formerly top-secret report was originally leaked to the New York Times in 1971 and revealed damaging insights into U.S. policy in Vietnam, creating a whirlwind of controversy. In 2011, the full 7,000-page report was declassified and released to the public.
Interactive Vietnam Veterans Memorial: The interactive memorial on Fold3 was made of 6,301 photographs of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial in Washington DC that were stitched together by computer into a single, high-quality image. The Interactive Vietnam Veterans Memorial allows you to either search for a name or look at a high-resolution image of the wall—as if you were really in Washington DC. Every name on Fold3’s Vietnam Wall is connected to an Honor Wall page for the veteran that you can view or edit.