ARCHIVED: GenDoc Study Group 17 “Documenting on Your Own”

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Syllabus
Thomas W. Jones, Mastering Genealogical Documentation, (Arlington, Virginia: National Genealogical Society, 2017.) Softbound available from the publisher’s website www.ngsgenealogy.org and in Amazon Kindle format here: https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Genealogical-Documentation-Thomas-Jones/dp/B0743HCD4T

Chapter 17 “Documenting on Your Own”
“Document (verb)[:] The process of recording and showing the sources of concepts, evidence, images, and words that an author or compiler has used.” Mastering Genealogical Documentation, p 181; citing Board for Certification of Genealogists, Genealogy Standards (Nashville, Tenn: Ancestry.com) 67 (glossary definition of “document”.)

GenDoc STUDY GROUP – Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing


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00:28:43 CaryBright: WELCOME to the last of our 17 presentations!! Can’t believe its done.
00:29:37 Valerie EichlerLair: We don’t even talk to each other to see what outfits we’re going to wear each week, let alone what exanples we are going to use! 🙂
00:31:50 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
00:32:01 June Butka: Thank you.
00:33:05 June Butka: Thank you all for the hard work and time you put in to teach us. Job well done.
00:34:17 Cousin Russ: Hilary​​ ​​Gadsby Chapter​​ ​​17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cqHLKVOyPNUuIvGiKHzguQPSnqUVnQvoV-9dagyJeI8/edit
00:34:47 Valerie EichlerLair: Whew ~ so hard not to tear up with Myrt’s kind words. {{{hugs}}}
00:35:03 June Butka: Is Google Sheet like excel? I use the docs.
00:35:22 CaryBright: Another great tool for your Genealogy “Toolbox” Thank you HIlary for your inspiration. Great use of Google Sheets.
00:35:23 Cousin Russ: Yes June, it is almost exactly the same
00:36:58 June Butka: I’m using Google Docs for my 52 Ancestors and Book of Me prompts since Hilary’s last reference. Before I was only using it when in a study group.
00:37:38 June Butka: Thank you, Russ.
00:41:08 Cousin Russ: Website for ordering from the General Registration Office that goes with Hilary’s honework https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp
00:41:24 Cousin Russ: Google Sheet that goes with Hilary’s homework https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZhW5FteM_j5f21gQLEdPqXbZVfl6dYJxaX0WcNOrP0M/edit#gid=0
00:41:40 Pat Richley-Erickson: Thank-you, Russ. 🙂
00:42:06 June Butka: The photos I have taken from the record books in Maine should be documented as what I saw when I took the photograph, like a book not a photo?
00:45:52 Valerie EichlerLair: For England information on B.M,D certificatrs and about those pre-printed numbers on the certified copies of the birth register, refer to Evidence Explained, 3rd ed., p. 474–475.
00:50:20 Valerie EichlerLair: EE3, p. 475 — General Register Office, Southport is in the citation of a birth certificate. Example template is on top of the page.
00:51:11 Pat Richley-Erickson: Valeria include the URL when you quote something. www.EvidenceExplained.com would suffice.
00:51:49 CaryBright: Another example of when we know more we craft better citations AND do better research!
00:52:44 Cousin Russ: Dave Robison Chapter 17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Q986fGujVXanXf8cBWqpLDpToT6emzEPdxypDreE8sU/edit
00:52:45 Valerie EichlerLair: Pat – will do. This case I was referring to the page in the book. 🙂
00:53:18 June Butka: I love the diary that my son in law has.
00:59:10 Cousin Russ: Mastering Genealogical Documentation Study Group Chapter 17 – Documenting on Your Own Marceline Beem https://40th-and-plum.blogspot.com/2018/01/gendoc-study-group-chapter-17.html
00:59:32 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
01:04:03 Cousin Russ: Sheri Fenley Chapter 17: homework https://docs.google.com/document/d/1f7XLgzMz3vAwIJPgro8jDdRsuO8pbqYBnmbm1nrdQA8/edit
01:04:19 Yvonne Demoskoff: Love old cookbooks!
01:04:20 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
01:04:25 MarcelineBeem: Going off video for a few minutes to finish my lunch
01:04:37 Melissa Barker: Sheri! A woman after my own heart, I hate to cook! But my husband is a great cook!
01:04:43 Cheri Passey: Sheri, I have my grandmother’s Better Homes and Gardens Cookbook! It’s in sad shape too!
01:05:34 CaryBright: Love this cookbook. Adds such story. I own has an element burn mark on the cover from my first T-day meal as a 2 month newlywed!!
01:06:45 Valerie EichlerLair: I got 7 small appliances for Christmas the year my husband and I got engaged. Talk about NON romantic! And we got engaged on Dec. 15th!!!
01:07:49 June Butka: I have mine from Mike’s grandmother and another from my aunt. it was theirs.
01:10:23 CaryBright: I am feeling inspired to do a Scrapbook Layout on my own first cookbooks including their “stories” Thanks for the inspiration.
01:10:27 Valerie EichlerLair: Discursive notes are encouraged! 🙂
01:12:56 June Butka: I’m writing as I go for my current blog post I’m working on. It is taking me a longer time for each post.
01:14:19 Cousin Russ: Valerie Eichler Lair Homework https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VX3bru0dCqqBgL76_rTtKrI4oaQgnfF0PDc7oaHipFc/edit
01:14:32 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
01:16:33 MarcelineBeem: Sorry! I thought I had muted my mic as well! Sorry y’all had to hear me munching on the doritos.
01:16:43 Pat Richley-Erickson: No worries
01:16:46 DaveRobison: There are only 25 letters in these alphabets. There is no “J”
01:18:31 Anna Matthews: June, my promise to myself this year was no more blog posts without citations. It is taking me much longer. too, for each post. But at least now I feel the research I share can be taken more seriously.
01:20:31 June Butka: lol.
01:20:48 Cousin Russ: Gendocs Chapter 17 Melinda Culpon https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-8p6APT_8nMl05-1XpczKFv9arb4hmdfonRRJgKeqsw/edit
01:21:24 CaryBright: Back in 3 minutes… have to open the Gen. Society by 10am!
01:22:14 Cousin Russ: Mastering Genealogical Documentation – Chapter 17 Lisa Gorrell https://drive.google.com/file/d/1nEtytMTfhicJNxtdKpz1ut3ozATLNKax/view
01:22:14 June Butka: I have cork Puzzles, I must document.
01:22:32 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
01:23:21 June Butka: Great job evryone.
01:23:48 June Butka: The year needs to be added to where it is now.
01:24:09 Cousin Russ: GenDoc Study Group, Ch. 17 Assignment Cary Bright https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q4Iyc746wZOgZtKbwx3jYyxoMs695zq5/view
01:25:58 Anna Matthews: Oh, my goodness Cary, my mother has one just like that! I used to play with it all the time as a little girl. I wonder if she still has it. I have to ask her. Wow!
01:28:22 June Butka: It felt cool is a nice inclusion of the way it brought you comfort, Carey.
01:28:55 Valerie EichlerLair: In the book EE3, on p. 139 – I love the sample artifact template that ESM gies…has the measurements. Cool Cary for putting in the measurements of the bad since you can’t tell from a photograph.
01:31:09 Valerie EichlerLair: Discursive notes should go at the end of the citation.
01:34:04 June Butka: Putting a citation in is better than no citation, even if imperfect.
01:35:51 Valerie EichlerLair: Love ALL the viewer’s comments and questions!!!
01:36:20 Cheri Passey: Thank you all for your hard work. I have learned so much from your homework and the discussions!
01:36:41 CaryBright: Thanks YOU for all the panelists for following us and your feedback. YES, it takes a village and we all learned that anyone can craft a citation. Just give it a try
01:38:08 Anna Matthews: I’m way behind you all but so grateful that we will have the recordings to refer back to. You were all amazing and provided such great examples and insights every week!
01:38:21 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Fabulous discussions! Excellent presentations by the panel & great to be part of this learning experience! (As I work on my tree and blogs in the background am trying to incorporate all this great education!)
01:40:02 June Butka: My son grab my tattered cookbook that I had since I was a teenage when he went of the the Air Force in 1999. He still has it.
01:41:11 June Butka: Good promise Anna.
01:42:03 June Butka: How do you cite your own memories? As an interview by yourself?
01:43:24 June Butka: We are not seeing your screen. Just everyone.
01:44:08 Cheri Passey: We got this, Sheri!
01:44:26 SheriFenley: Yes we do Cheri!
01:44:37 Cousin Russ: CONTINUE the conversation in DearMYRTLE’s G+ Community – https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/102461242403735457058/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/eod9PRoXp5Y
01:44:47 Cousin Russ: VIEW ONLY Chapter 17 Compiled Homework Scan – https://drive.google.com/file/d/1U03hhVGXdV_cfB_yLVLFT8M08BPi-yV-/view?usp=sharing
01:44:57 Valerie EichlerLair: Sheri – now you know why I didn’t volunteer for chapter 1. You are brave and will rock it!!!!
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01:46:26 Valerie EichlerLair: Awww that is so kind. Thank you! Love to Myrt, Russ, the panelists and everyone who attended.


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MONDAYS WITH MYRT (90 minutes) – 13 Nov 2017 – Register herePractical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. We talk about everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the past week. Powerful breakthroughs happen during our live hangouts. Catch the rebroadcast here, along with all the links we mentionNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)

GenDoc STUDY GROUP 10 (60 minutes) – Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 – Register hereChapter 10 “Citing Numbered, Grouped, and Subgrouped Offline Sources and Information Items” from Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical DocumentationNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)

 

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DNAGen STUDY GROUP (60 minutes) Wednesday, 8 Nov 2017 – Register hereOpen Q & A with Blaine T. Mettinger, co-author of Genetic Genealogy in Practice. Now also available in Kindle format. 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles).

MONDAYS WITH MYRT (90 minutes) 13 Nov 2017 – Register herePractical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. We talk about everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the past week. Powerful breakthroughs happen during our live hangouts. Catch the rebroadcast here, along with all the links we mentionNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)

GenDoc STUDY GROUP 10 (60 minutes) Wednesday, 15 Nov 2017 – Register hereChapter 10 “Citing Numbered, Grouped, and Subgrouped Offline Sources and Information Items” from Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical DocumentationNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)

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GenDoc STUDY GROUP 11 (60 minutes) Wednesday, 22 Nov 2017 – Register here. Chapter 11 – “Answering the Wherein and Whereis Citation Questions for Online Sources” from Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical Documentation. Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)

 

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GenDoc Study Group Chapter 5 – Capitalization, Italics, Punctuation and Other Citation Subtleties

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GenDoc Study Group – A DearMYRTLE Hangout Series

Join us on Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 for our live discussion of Chapter 5 – Capitalization, Italics, Punctuation and Other Citation Subtleties from Thomas W. Jones, Mastering Genealogical Documentation, (Arlington, Virginia: National Genealogical Society, 2017.) Softbound available from the publisher’s website http://www.ngsgenealogy.org. Kindle format at Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Mastering-Genealogical-Documentation-Thomas-Jones/dp/B0743HCD4T

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