From our discussions during this week’s Mondays with Myrtit became obvious we should dedicate an entire hour to overcoming misconceptions about the shuttering of Google+ mentioned in my early post “Google+ closing down” posted 3 Feb 2019. Basically, Google+ as a social media platform never went main-stream, as has Facebook with comparable features. Whether you are a blogger, a social media junkie or coder using the Google+ API script, be sure to follow Google’s best advice found here: Google+ Shuttering FAQ – https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9217723
We met with Andrew Hatchett, a Google Product expert, and dissected the recent email notification from Google+. DearMYRTLE demoed downloading and installing the paid version of Google+ Exporter. This $19.95 program identified all of DearMYRTLE’s owned and affiliated communities, then Myrt prepared to download the .xml file and showed where on Blogger one may create a new blog and import the .xml file to populate the blog. The Google+ Exporter supports transferring Google+ feeds to WordPress, Blogger and JSON.
Importing your Google+ content (an .XML file created by Google+ Exporter) in Blogger is found in the same area where you invoke the monthly backup of your Blogger blog.
1. Create a new, empty Blogger blog.
2. Click “Settings” in the left menu bar.
3. Click “Other”.
4. Click “Import Content” button and follow the screen prompts to locate the Google+ Exporter .xml file.
NOTE: You may redesign the layout and theme as usual.
18:31:05 From DearMYRTLE : Google+ Shuttering FAQ – https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9217723
19:02:42 From Doris Haskell : Hi Andy! It’s great to see you!
19:02:43 From Renate Sanders : Good evening all. Just about 15 minutes ago I read the sad reality that any and all comments ever made on my blog via G+ are GONE forever!
19:04:33 From Renate Sanders to All panelists : Yeah I knew it was coming… still felt shocking to actually see it in real-time lol
19:05:31 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Can you confirm the main difference between the 2 types of comment on our blogs? I believed that it amounted to whether a comment was made directly on the blog, or on a share in a Google+ stream
19:07:56 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : Evening folks
19:08:11 From Melissa Barker : Hello Shelley!
19:08:26 From Shelley Murphy : Hey Melissa!
19:08:45 From Renate Sanders : Hey Melissa and Shelley 🙂
19:08:53 From Melissa Barker : Hello Renate!
19:09:24 From Shelley Murphy : HI Renate!
19:09:28 From Lisa Gorrell : The only thing in my google+ personal account is the posting of my blog posts, which is done automatically by google. I have requested the files to download but have not done it yet.
19:14:05 From DearMYRTLE : Google+ feeds to WordPress, Blogger and JSON Get Google+ Exporter desktop app https://gplus-exporter.friendsplus.me
19:16:47 From Don Varner to All panelists : What was the name of Cousin Russ’s genealogy methods blog? [NOTE: https://cousinrusscommunity.blogspot.com
19:26:05 From Renate Sanders to All panelists : That’s so true
19:32:15 From Shelley Murphy : amen!
Cross-post from Blogger to Google+ has been disabled for most consumers.
19:35:38 From Melissa Barker : When I post a blog post on Blogger it posts first to Google +, where do I go to change that setting? [We pointed out that Blogger has already removed that option on our Blogger accounts, so it isn’t necessary to take action.]
19:36:17 From Renate Sanders to All panelists : I changed that over the past weekend
19:38:32 From True Lewis : Thanks Cousin Russ. I didn’t want to disrupt your previous content. I’ll do the rewind when it’s posted on youTube. Thanks for showing me where to go.
19:39:39 From Shelley Murphy : Hey True…
19:40:50 From True Lewis : Hello Cousin Shells!
19:41:17 From True Lewis : I TRUST COUSIN RUSS! lol.
19:41:20 From Shelley Murphy : LOL, Dave, trust Russ!!!
19:46:28 From Shelley Murphy : You got all this Dave????
19:48:38 From Dave Robison to All panelists : I’ll have it by the 16th…..
19:53:33 From Yvonne Demoskoff : I cancelled my Google+ account last week. I had so little there, it didn’t worry me.
19:57:28 From Shelley Murphy : Melissa did it show up before and you closed it?
19:58:10 From Melissa Barker : Shelley, I haven’t closed my account. I go to it everyday and it’s not there.
19:58:16 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : On Monday, the “Google+ Comments” setting was reverted to “Blogger Comments”.
On Tuesday, I checked and this setting was still there but had been reverted. All my comments were still there too. Later on Tuesday, I disconnected my blog from my Google+ profile. All Google+ options were then turned off on the blog. And ALL my comments disappeared. This is why I’m confused.
19:58:26 From True Lewis : The Original “Green Room”.
19:58:34 From Shelley Murphy : Okay, it shows up on my page
19:59:33 From Shelley Murphy : not the main page
20:01:02 From Don Varner to All panelists : How come it [The Google+ Exporter listing page] shows 0 posts in all of the communities? [NOTE: Because the full scan had not been invoked. The screen you saw in the video was the preliminary identification of DearMYRTLE’s Google+ activities.]
20:01:26 From Randy Seaver to All panelists :Where would I find Google+ Album photos? I may have something there.
20:03:42 From Cousin Russ : https://support.google.com/plus/answer/9217723
20:03:51 From True Lewis : I just remembered my Template isn’t from Blogger. Will it be affected much? I had a designer do it. [NOTE: It may not be necessary for your to import your blog posts, if that was your principal activity over on Google+. DearMYRTLE recommends placing your Google+Exporter file into a new, empty blog for testing.]
0:05:19 From True Lewis : Thank YOU!!!!!!! Cousin Russ
20:05:33 From Andy Hatchett to All panelists : True – does it presently work with Blogger? If so it should not be affected.
20:06:02 From True Lewis : Yes so far. It depends on what device I’m using. So far so good.
20:06:20 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Are blog backup files still usable in case of emergency if they contain Google+ comments from before? 20:07:23 From Andy Hatchett to All panelists : Don- no posts have been read yet so it says 0 posts until the export is finished.
20:08:36 From Andy Hatchett to All panelists : Tony- once in a file you can re-use as needed because comments are included and are no longer linked to G+
20:08:51 From Susan Bleimehl : You folks did an excellent job tonight. Thank You!
20:10:05 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I mean if you try to restore it ….
20:12:19 From Andy Hatchett to All panelists : Tony- restoring should work with comments if backup file is valid
20:12:47 From Shelley Murphy : Wow, this wacky Wednesday was packed! Thanks
20:13:02 From True Lewis : Thanks so much, Moving forward with confidence.
20:13:42 From Shelley Murphy : good evening!
In which we discuss MetaProxy, the fiasco with FTDNA changing it’s terms of service, Lucient Chart and other tools for mapping family relationships.
09:44:49 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Tony has updated MetaProxy so you can automatically get meta files created just been trying it.
10:00:27 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I have just accepted a new post on WikiTree as a regional coordinator for South East England. I will say more when I know what I am doing. [CONGRATS, Hilary!]
10:01:13 From Graham Walter : Hello everyone from London
10:01:46 From Robbin Smith : Good Day from Miami
10:02:00 From Michelle Minner : Morning from Tucson, Arizona
10:02:10 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Good morning from cloudy Florida.
10:02:49 From Linda Stufflebean : Hello from Tucson, AZ.
10:03:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Has a ‘meeting’ with Darris Williams (Utah) on Saturday to discuss a meet up at RootsTech
10:04:19 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Hello from South Louisiana.
10:04:38 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Gary Gauthier here from “Oh so cold Calgary, Alberta -27C)
10:05:05 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I’m not seeing he people on the big screen
10:05:29 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Randy – you won’t
10:05:35 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I have an unusual tale of tracing living relatives that folks might find amusing 🙂
10:05:48 From Cousin Russ to All panelists : Its a chicklet in the Webinar
10:05:51 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : oh…why not?
10:06:14 From Graham Walter : Hi Gary: 8 in London
10:06:50 From Betty-Lu Burton : Good day everyone
10:07:02 From Cousin Russ : https://westmagenealogy.com/
10:07:20 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : Hi Tony
10:08:18 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Here’s some Canadian news: the 1926 Prairie Provinces census can now be browsed at FamilySearch (Gail Dever of Genealogy a la Carte announced it on her blog this morning)
10:09:18 From Janine Edmée Hakim : One word guys….Instant Pot
10:11:29 From Cousin Russ : One Pot Meals for Busy Genealogists Facebook Group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OnePotMeals4BusyGenealogists/
10:11:57 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : My stomach is starting to rumble now …
10:12:59 From Graham Walter : This is so cruel this close to meal time 🙂
10:14:27 From Randy Seaver : when can we order these meals from MyrtDash or WendyDash?
10:17:08 From Hilary Gadsby : I have the old style pressure cooker that I use.
10:17:45 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Judy Russel link https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2019/02/01/opening-the-dna-floodgates/
10:19:20 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Portable Soup- you can find almost anything on Wikipedia! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_soup
10:19:49 From Michelle Minner : I was angry, because they changed their terms of service with no notice!
10:19:53 From Doris Haskell : Don’t they have to have a warrant? And isn’t it on a case-by-case basis?
10:20:00 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Big brothers is always there…in today’s world with the internet we are just better at keeping up with the changes.
10:20:04 From cyndy Bray : Don’t know about anyone else, but I’m not happy
10:20:46 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : This is why I haven’t had my DNA tested. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
10:20:47 From Shelley Murphy : I am angry about it. That is not what I signed up for.
10:20:52 From John Laws to All panelists : like to join the panel
10:21:20 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : If we OPT out now, does that take away the information that they already have?
10:21:49 From John Laws : breach of contract?
10:22:21 From Cousin Russ : John, you ARE on the Panel
10:22:35 From Randy Seaver : all they have is the match data. FBI or LE isn’t getting anyone’s raw DNA. They are seeing matches like all of us see.
10:22:44 From Michelle Minner : I totally agree, I don’t mind sharing my DNA (especially for law enforcement)…I don’t like not being asked…and not being told that they were going to open up the information.
10:23:37 From John Laws : thank you sir
10:23:55 From Randy Seaver : GEDmatch didn’t change their TOS until it was revealed that LE was using it after the Golden State Killer event.
10:23:58 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : I agree about the T&C being changed without notice. I’d be happy to share results with law enforcement, but can you guarantee that’s where it stops? There are people who do not agree as a matter of principle, but suppose that insurance companies got access
10:24:26 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Hilary, I hope you’ll come to the Facebook group and share your expertise with pressure cooking. It’s intimidating for so many new users.
10:24:27 From Hilary Gadsby : Even if they mentioned it previously they should have told everyone when this change was being made.
10:25:23 From Michelle Minner : is user anyone at all? or is user a paid subscription? I need definitions to feel more comfortable
10:25:30 From Hilary Gadsby to Wendy Gunderson and all panelists : I am in the facebook group so happy to share what I can.
10:26:11 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : bushwhacked aka sidelined aka snookered aka backdoored
10:26:25 From John Laws : makes you wonder who else gets to take a look perhaps russian security?
10:27:51 From Marian Koalski : Maybe we should ask ourselves about all kinds of online services: “Are we letting someone else hold our wallet?” (Or other private or treasured asset?)
10:29:42 From John Laws : I don’t see how the EU thing applies outside Europe we get out when we leave
10:29:53 From Graham Walter : Clarity of communication is what is needed
10:30:14 From Michelle Minner : I WAS surprised by an NPE, and I don’t want to share that DNA, by the request of the family member that doesn’t want anyone to know about the NPE involving her DNA test. However, I don’t like the company changing it without notice. I only opted out for that one DNA test.
10:30:49 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think people do not understand that law enforcement must still do a lot of leg work. The DNA does not give them a definite match until after the detective work
10:31:35 From Linda Stufflebean : I am not happy about ftDNA’s sneaky method, although I don’t mind them using my DNA to catch criminals either. On the other hand, given the adage that once something is online, we lose control of it fits here so it sadly isn’t all that surprising.
10:32:12 From Randy Seaver : two sets of detective work – first to find descendants of a common ancestor, second to sort out the descendants to find the right person.
10:33:48 From Graham Walter : Can you send some chicken over to London?
10:34:47 From Cousin Russ : https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:35:11 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : Graham, maybe we can invent a new “portable” chicken app!
10:35:15 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
10:35:47 From Graham Walter : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:36:08 From Cousin Russ : FIND MY PAST APP for smart phones https://blog.findmypast.com/findmypast-app-2623284760.html
10:36:18 From Cousin Russ : FMP blog link – https://blog.findmypast.co.uk/findmypast-friday-february-1st-2627629109.html
10:36:27 From John Laws : I have a beef with FMP my membership of Ancestry shows up regardless whether I go on dot co uk or dot com but doesn’t work with FMP
10:36:29 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Thank-you, Graham.
10:36:43 From Hilary Gadsby : I am waiting for the records in Southampton, England to be online as my 2xgt grandparents married in the catholic church and their family were catholics.
10:37:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Wendy: good idea!
10:40:56 From John Laws : Not all registries or churches give permission to digitizing of their records and some churches haven’t released their records to the county record offices yet and still keep them in cold damp vestries
10:42:22 From Robbin Smith : What irritates me is that *not* all the records from St. Peters on Staten Island have been added and of course that those are the records I need
10:45:56 From Janine Edmée Hakim : the borough of Manhattan is New York County
10:45:56 From Graham Walter : FindMyPast datasets for U.S. records https://search.findmypast.co.uk/historical-records?page=1®ion=united%20states%20%26%20canada&searchedrecordsetname=
10:46:35 From Cathy Naborowski : FMP has an agreement with these Archdiocese. Jen Baldwin did a great webinar – I think on FMP a whle back talking about the process they are going through.
10:46:45 From Randy Seaver : My guess is that when Josh Taylor was with FMP he tried to contract digitizing the church records that FamilySearch doesn’t have.
10:47:24 From Robbin Smith : I did send an email to FMP and they said they will be updated .. still waiting
10:47:27 From John Laws : surprised just how many children are registered without the father’s name and the mother and child have the same surname since WWI. Of course we had always had illegitimacy
10:47:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Fading away! Battery warning…. See you all next week…
10:48:02 From Graham Walter : have a good day Dave
10:48:28 From John Laws : they consider the records to be their personal records how dare you want to know anything
10:48:40 From Hilary Gadsby : Not sure if catholics do transcripts in the UK
10:49:36 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Pat, I’ve had some success walking into a church’s office and speaking with the secretary. I was able to view my grandfather’s baptism record (1889) in Quebec that way.
10:50:56 From Randy Seaver : This is a great example of how “not everything is online.” There will never be “all records online.”
10:50:57 From John Laws : maybe the mice had thanksgiving lunch on the records
10:51:56 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Find My Past is a subscription site??
10:52:08 From Randy Seaver : yes Shelby
10:52:19 From Cousin Russ : FindMyPast Blog https://blog.findmypast.com/
10:52:31 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Ok – have an account already registered, but it wants more $$
10:52:40 From Graham Walter : Some of the pages launch your smartphone browser but if it’s you online tree it’s sync to phone
10:53:03 From Randy Seaver : and FMP now accesses the FamilySearch Family Tree to help find common ancestors for DNA matches.
10:55:13 From Graham Walter : You can also do Newspapers directly at British NEwspaper Archives https://www.britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk/
10:58:12 From Randy Seaver : Ancestry Search Engine Problems from my correspondent – link is https://www.geneamusings.com/2019/01/a-readers-take-on-ancestrycom-problems_30.html
11:00:08 From Wendy Gunderson to All panelists : This is annoying to hear, but I’m glad I’m not going crazy.
11:01:20 From Valerie Lisk : I liked the HeritageQuest search engine before Ancestry bought them. You could browse on the County level or you could browse by Institution.
11:04:51 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Moving from 32-bit to 64-bit software is not the only way of solving this. That’s a little like a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
11:07:24 From Cousin Russ : RootsMagichttps://rootsmagic.com/
11:10:13 From Cousin Russ : discussion of Tony Proctor’s MetaProxy program https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10161407529775374
11:13:10 From John Laws : Thats pretty good eh!
11:13:59 From Randy Seaver : love Tony’s fractal screen
11:17:25 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : The Mac version of MetaProxy is progressing along the same lines.
11:18:30 From Cousin Russ : https://www.lucidchart.com
11:19:48 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Is this a web-based analog of Visio?
11:20:01 From Graham Walter : Gary: yes
11:20:33 From Cary Bright to All panelists : Try this – FREE with sign up https://online.visual-paradigm.com/features/flowchart-tool/
11:20:42 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Thanks, Russ.
11:20:54 From Graham Walter : It allows to import Visio files as well
11:21:08 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Graham,. Thanks to you too.
11:21:37 From Graham Walter : Pricing model = https://www.lucidchart.com/user/129854395#/subscriptionLevel
11:21:45 From Tony Proctor to All panelists : Dia is another similar generic drawing package for data relationship diagrams. The SVG designer is far simpler, and free, but Windows specific
11:22:20 From Hilary Gadsby : My favourite for the UK is http://www.genuki.org.uk/
11:23:09 From Graham Walter : Genuki – Definitely a good one!
11:23:21 From Cousin Russ : One of my favorites for Florida interest – Florida Memory Project – http://www.floridamemory.com
11:23:23 From Randy Seaver : Favorite go-to site for help — FamilySearch Research Wiki – https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Main_Page
11:23:42 From Shelby Bender to All panelists : Have to depart for one of those pesky business meetings…cheers and happy day everyone!
11:25:47 From Randy Seaver : Another is Randy’s Genesalogy Links – https://www.geneamusings.com/p/randys-genealogy-links.html
11:27:22 From Marcia Philbrick : Map of U.S. – shows changing county boundary lines over time (United States resource) – very helpful for research in area prior to statehood – https://www.mapofus.org/
11:27:32 From Doris Haskell : I just stepped away because I got a FaceTime call from my baby boy, who is serving in the Middle East.
11:27:35 From Graham Walter : also the go-to-website Cyndi’s List https://www.Cyndislist.com
11:30:44 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : Can you put the New York Historical Society link for Will Abstracts in the chat.
11:36:38 From Tony Proctor : When Google+ goes, so will many of the Blogger comments (if you have a blogspot)
11:37:34 From Randy Seaver : Can we get on the panel that day at FHL?
11:40:34 From Randy Seaver : I never had many commenters from Google+ to my blog posts.
11:41:01 From Randy Seaver : extraordinary webinars…
11:44:18 From Cousin Russ : Download your Google+ data https://support.google.com/plus/answer/1045788?hl=en
11:44:28 From Hilary Gadsby : If we posted using our Google account that should still be active.
11:44:42 From Marcia Philbrick : https://blogger.googleblog.com/2019/01/an-update-on-google-and-blogger.html – says comments will no longer appear on blog
11:45:11 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : yay!
11:46:39 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : that will be fun
11:47:35 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZlX5znu6d7CCz6xobwMXOA
11:48:11 From Graham Walter : Farewell everyone!
11:48:14 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : thanks
11:49:05 From Brenda J. Williams to All panelists : How is your kitty cat doing?
11:49:42 From cyndy Bray : might be me not you
11:50:51 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:51:01 From Cousin Russ : Daughters of the American Revolution https://www.dar.org/
11:55:28 From Mary Buchholz to All panelists : I definitely think there is interest in Tony’s software and it is something a person needs to heard more than once.
You’ve heard Google+ is shuttering in a few weeks. Its just Google PLUS. I panicked a little myself, but Cousin Russ set me straight, as did this post from The Guardian. I am no longer using Google+, since it will be shuttered within a few weeks. Google+ just couldn’t compete as a social media platform and Google chooses to puts its energy elsewhere.
“The deletion does not affect other Google services. … Your Google account, which is linked to services such as Gmail, YouTube and Maps, will continue to work, but your Google+ account, which was only used for the social network, will be deleted.” SOURCE: The Guardian, “Closure of Google+: everything you need to know” posted 1 February 2019 at The Guardian website. SOURCE: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/feb/01/closure-google-plus-everything-you-need-to-know : viewed 1 Feb 2019.
THANK-YOU to our special guest, Geoff Rasmussen for showing Ol’ Myrt the Google backup process.
00:41:44 Pat Kuhn: hi everyone
00:41:59 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good good morning Myrt and Russ
00:42:03 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hello To All!
00:42:04 Dave Robison: I missed last week, too!
00:42:07 Hilary Gadsby: I have a follow up to something I mentioned on the webinar with Tony last week
00:42:24 Robbin Smith: hello from miami
00:42:50 Bill West: Good afternoon from sunny, chilly Massachusetts.
00:44:53 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
00:45:04 Teri Chaffin: good morning
00:45:56 Melissa Barker: Hello, a little late, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is here!
00:46:05 Cousin Russ: Geoff Rasmussen to discuss Google Backup (a manual procedure) https://takeout.google.com
00:46:39 John Laws: Tnknk you Sir
00:50:45 Valerie Lisk: I’m always watching the Legacy family tree webinars. This is weird to actually watch Geoff speaking.
00:54:29 Sheryl Whisenhunt: First time hearing about it.
00:54:34 Robbin Smith: new to me
00:54:37 Susan Bleimehl: Never knew about it.
00:54:53 Geoff Mulholland: First I have heard of it
00:55:19 Danine Cozzens: New to me, and I use a lot of Google products to keep an eye on my son’s employer.
00:55:27 Valerie Lisk: First I’ve heard ot it. Thanks for the link Russ, I’m going to watch that webinar.
00:58:03 Marian Koalski: I enjoyed hearing Dave Robison speak at the New England Family History Conference over the weekend. He is a busy man!
01:08:29 Cousin Russ: Randy Seaver’s BEST OF THE GENEA-BLOGS https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/best-of-genea-blogs-1-to-7-april-2018.html
01:08:36 Cousin Russ: .
01:08:42 Hilary Gadsby: We have some restrictions but I am not sure what they are. The most recent records do not have an index widely available.
01:10:05 Joanne Shackford Parkes: On Monday, I look forward Randy’s updates to Ancestry & FamilySearch lists along with the Best of Blogs list!
01:10:27 Cousin Russ: Judy Russell CHASING THE SS-5 http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/02/chasing-the-ss-5/
01:12:56 Dave Robison: Thanks for the mention, Marian! IT was a very busy weekend…
01:18:17 Janine Edmée Hakim: Russ, what has been your experience finding records in Ancestry for countries that are not specifically mentioned (like Israel)…
01:23:00 DearMYRTLE: Ancestry LOST their wiki link
01:23:33 Randy Seaver: Micki – yes, I do. I mine Hints for one database using that technique
01:24:33 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Find it easiest to get to the Family Search wiki by googling FamilySearch wiki county state then ensuring I look for the latest update
01:25:53 Marian Koalski: The Red Book info is at search.ancestry.com
01:26:19 Randy Seaver: Micki – it takes time for Ancestry to find Hints for your tree people. I usually wait 6 months after a new collection to search the Hints for that database.
01:26:44 Dawn Carlile: It now only talks about the company on regular wikipedia.
01:27:17 Cousin Russ: Lorine McGinnis Schulze lost 8 generations of research. https://www.facebook.com/olivetreegenealogy/posts/10155612560197815
01:29:00 Dawn Carlile: The Redbook can still be found at http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:30:09 Dave Robison: I just tried the Redbook link and I get “Whitelabel Error Page
01:30:10 Betty-Lu Burton: I have noticed while reveiwing index records for FamilySearc indexing that some indexers will assume the female middle name is the maiden name and I have seen times when yes it is a maiden name but the maiden name of the female’s mother or grandmother
01:31:16 Marian Koalski: I have found family members 30 years after thinking that I had them all… in probate records that have recently come online.
01:31:42 Marian Koalski: I should say “found ADDITIONAL family members”
01:32:06 Betty-Lu Burton: Ihave a family in the 1800’s where all the children had the grandmother’s maiden name for a middle name
01:33:23 Cousin Russ: Dawn – thank you, but it isn’t linked to “the Wiki”
01:33:47 Bill West: Having to trim a branch off the family tree is almost as painful for me as deciding which books I need to cull from my bookcase.
01:34:18 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Have found a book that takes my ancestors back six more generations, very good quality but really want to find the author’s original source material (tough as it was written in 1912). Do have distant DNA matches to some folks who also document this line but am still on the hunt for these original documents that the author used to write the book.
01:34:26 Cousin Russ: http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:34:30 Dawn Carlile: The wiki is gone, just the Redbook works. If you search Wiki on Ancestry you only get a few articles, no wiki.
01:36:43 Randy Seaver: I’m still seeing Pat’s screen and not Russ’s comments
01:37:01 Doris Haskell: My first experience at the FHL was finding a book that had my paternal ancestors in a book about Lexington, MA records. The author did not itemize his sources, and this is still a source of a brick wall for me.
01:37:24 Janine Edmée Hakim: Thank you Cousin Russ, have sometimes found it difficult to find records for Indonesian relatives.
01:37:29 Randy Seaver: The latest blog post for Hints in a specific Ancestry database is https://www.geneamusings.com/2016/10/mining-ancestrycom-hints-by-specific.html
01:39:28 Betty-Lu Burton: I have found more information on my ancestors Italian towns in the French and Italian Wikipedia then in any of the English Wikis.
01:40:33 Dave Robison: The good news about the Red Book is that all I have to do to find it is look to myleft where it sits on a shelf!
01:42:28 Dave Robison: This Red Book is the Third Edition. I have no idea if that’s the latest.
01:42:33 Pat Kuhn: in my VanBilliard line there are two couples that have the same names and I keep finding trees that put children in the wrong family
01:44:56 Deb Andrew: I had a cousin who had to move his line over to a different ancestor. He thought my 2nd great grandfather was his great grandfather. Through extensive DNA testing it turns out that my 2nd great wasn’t but his brother was his great grandfather.
01:45:38 Randy Seaver: Amazon has Third Edition from 2004.
01:46:06 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Thanks for the tips – have a trip to Albany, NY in my future — this author actually also went to Haarlem, Holland so that’s also on my future dream trips!!
01:47:44 Randy Seaver: Hard cover Redbook on sale at Amazon is $40, only 10 left in stock. Kindle is $20
01:48:28 DearMYRTLE: regarding John Laws “You might find the original record BUT beware it may have original errors 1939 Register on FMP has my mother-in-law before her marriage has overwritten error and very misleading for a newbie.” FindMyPast 1939 Registerhttps://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records/1939-register
01:48:33 Rachel Evans: I have the same issue Pat. There are four generations of men named John Bennem in my tree. Not including collateral Johns. It’s difficult to keep track and even worse to try to get people to fix things.
01:48:41 Randy Seaver: every record MAY be wrong due to informant error or clerk error. Thankfully, most are correct.
01:58:27 Karen Trearchis: I am just joining your program today, so I hope this has not been stated today. I just learned to use BillionGraves [smart phone] app on Saturday. I had attended Family History Day in Franklin, MA. One of the speakers shared information on BillionGraves & taught us to use the app. We went to a local cemetery to practice & I am impressed. Once I practice I am going to see if other chapter members of MSOG want to work together in doing part or all of a cemetery. It was so fun!
01:58:54: Dave Robison: Karen Trearchis, that speaker was Brian Moncur who is the chief technology officer at Billion Graves
02:00:45 Karen Trearchis: Great idea Russ, we have Scout come to our chapter each year to earn their Merit Badge. One of the officers is also a Scout leader.
02:01:06 Randy Seaver: I really hate the ads now on FindAGrave. They slows down my work.
02:01:23 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Re the cemetery project – perhaps a local college has a GIS program and they would be willing to create a CAD drawing of the graveyard for you.
02:01:44 Karen Trearchis: What is GIS?
02:02:08 Marian Koalski: I think the same about FindaGrave, Myrt!
02:02:15 Yvonne Demoskoff: I sponsored my father’s memorial for a modest fee, which makes the ads disappear
02:02:35 Marian Koalski: It’s very hard to distinguish between data and advertising
02:04:25 Randy Seaver: I’m happy spring is here – I got two gravestone photos of 3rd great-grandparents stones on FindAGrave from a volunteer in Glocester RI.
02:06:22 Marian Koalski: Pat Kuehn, if you can email (or mail) me pieces of your project, I’ll be glad to do data entry for you.
02:08:00 Cousin Russ: Elizabeth Shown Mills weighs in onFormulating a research question. Why bother? https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/using-family-search-citation
02:09:05 Cousin Russ: Facebook just promised to offer its users around the world the same privacy controls required under a new European data protection law. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/technology/a-tough-task-for-facebook-european-type-privacy-for-all.html
02:09:16 Cousin Russ: Be sure to see Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 11,000+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list –
02:09:22 Bill West: My research plan is based on finding the next shiny thing. Not very organized, I know, but it’s fun. :0
02:09:31 Dave Robison: We had a good reminder lesson from Thomas Jones at the MGC conference this past weekend.
02:09:57 John Laws: alangodfreymaps.co.uk
02:09:58 Dave Robison: Don’t forget Gail Devers list for Canadian FB pages.
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