Participate in an unscripted, open discussion in which we consider WHAT are our personal rules for genealogy databases?
DOCUMENTATION – direct, indirect, authored work?
GPS – Genealogical Proof Standards
ONLINE TREES – Private or public (if 90% sure of relationships)
CITATIONS – DearMYRTLE’s “Ragu method” (it’s in there), cite first
ANALYSIS – is helped when we transcribe and cite well
DESKTOP SOFTWARE permits multiple databases
BACKUP – cloud, offsite, external hard drive
COMPARING ONLINE TREES – Ancestry, FindMyPast, MyHeritage, FamilySearch
19:01:47 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone!
19:02:16 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello Everyone
19:02:58 From Melissa Barker : Hello Deb, hope you are fully recovered!
19:03:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : My son once said he wanted a garage full of antique cars, you know those older than 1960. I and the other lady in the car at the time were both born before 1960.
19:05:41 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Old Alabama Family Photos
19:06:03 From Marian Koalski : Vegas?
19:06:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think any car older than 20 years is considered an antique
19:09:05 From Marian Koalski : I put possibles into my database with a first name of “maybe”
19:09:32 From Marian Koalski : That way I can see them as I research
19:09:55 From Marian Koalski : And I attach whatever sources I have to them
19:10:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : I put in the various larger databases I have received as well as the various family history books I have received as one of my sources. I then note if I had proved it wrong.
19:11:23 From Betty-Lu Burton : Some of these records are what others have used to start their research
19:14:51 From Marian Koalski : I don’t generally put “possibles” into online trees. That’s work, and I don’t invest that effort until I’ve figured things out more definitely.
19:15:34 From Betty-Lu Burton : Find them in all the censuses that they should be in, both Federal and State
19:17:51 From Marian Koalski : I agree, Russ.
19:21:14 From Marian Koalski : Yes, and sometimes I find an index entry for a name that begins with M on the page for C-names. Someone entered it but didn’t notice that he was working on the wrong page.
19:24:47 From Marian Koalski : You’re right, Russ, but this is in my Reunion database, which looks for a name anywhere in a name.
19:25:28 From Marian Koalski : Mine will read something like “maybe Richard Higbee”
19:26:09 From Marian Koalski : I do the ___ for names that I don’t know
19:28:49 From Marian Koalski : I don’t have a mike.
19:29:13 From Marian Koalski : Maybe my difference from Russ is that I don’t do automated searches.
19:34:02 From Marian Koalski : me
19:43:47 From Cousin Russ : FAMILY HISTORIAN 6 https://www.family-historian.co.uk/
19:43:48 From Cousin Russ : .
19:46:49 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I use One Drive for backups as well as an 8T external hard drive.
19:50:26 From Launa Droescher : I use to rotate Tape, then Zip backups. Some day I’m going to delete old backups
19:53:33 From Launa Droescher : that was tape in 1990s and a few years later zip
19:54:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : I know this is not correct, but it helps me to think of the cloud as the internet
19:56:42 From Betty-Lu Burton : because I have to use the internet to get to the cloud
19:56:44 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : When I backup my family file I direct the backup to One Drive, therefore not a copy. A copy of that backup then gets put onto my external hard drive.
20:09:58 From Sue Holmes Burns to All panelists : I hate to admit this but I didn’t know where my brother was buried. Yesterday I got a hint from MyHeritage showing me he’s buried at Arlington National Cemetery. Quite a find and surprise.
News Release, Board for Certification of Genealogists
Board for Certification of Genealogists Adopts Standards for DNA Evidence
On 21 October 2018, the Board for the Certification of Genealogists (BCG) approved five modified and seven new standards relating to the use of DNA evidence in genealogical work. BCG also updated the Genealogist’s Code to address the protection of people who provide DNA samples.
The new measures are intended to assist the millions of family historians who now turn to genetic sources to establish kinships. The action followed a public comment period on proposed standards released by BCG earlier this year.
“BCG firmly believes the standards must evolve to incorporate this new type of evidence,” according to BCG President Richard G. Sayre. “Associates, applicants, and the public should know BCG respects DNA evidence. It respects the complexity of the evidence and the corresponding need for professional standards. BCG does not expect use of DNA to be demonstrated in every application for certification. However, all genealogists, including applicants, need to make sound decisions about when DNA can or should be used, and any work products that incorporate it should meet the new standards and ethical provisions.”
“Standards for Using DNA Evidence,” a new chapter to be incorporated in Genealogy Standards, introduces the issues this way:
“Meeting the Genealogical Proof Standard requires using all available and relevant types of evidence. DNA evidence both differs from and shares commonalities with documentary evidence. Like other types of evidence, DNA evidence is not always available, relevant, or usable for a specific problem, is not used alone, and involves planning, analyzing, drawing conclusions, and reporting. Unlike other types of evidence, DNA evidence usually comes from people now living.”
In brief, the new standards address seven areas:
•Planning DNA tests. The first genetic standard describes the qualities of an effective plan for DNA testing including types of tests, testing companies, and analytical tools. It also calls for selecting the individuals based on their DNA’s potential to answer a research question.
•Analyzing DNA test results. The second genetic standard covers factors that might impact a genetic relationship conclusion, including analysis of pedigrees, documentary research, chromosomal segments, and mutations, markers or regions; also, composition of selected comparative test takers and genetic groups.
•Extent of DNA evidence. The third genetic standard describes the qualities needed for sufficiently extensive DNA data.
•Sufficient verifiable data. The fourth genetic standard addresses the verifiability of data used to support conclusions.
•Integrating DNA and documentary evidence. The fifth genetic standard calls for a combination of DNA and documentary evidence to support a conclusion about a genetic relationship. It also calls for analysis of all types of evidence.
•Conclusions about genetic relationships. The sixth genetic standard defines the parameters of a genetic relationship and the need for accurate representation of genealogical conclusions.
•Respect for privacy rights. The seventh genetic standard describes the parameters of informed consent.
The modifications made to several existing standards call for:
• Documentation of sources for each parent-child link.
• Where appropriate, distinction among adoptive, foster, genetic, step, and other kinds of familial relationships.
• Use of graphics as aids, for example: genealogical charts and diagrams to depict proved or hypothesized relationships; or lists and tables to facilitate correlation of data and demonstrate patterns or conflicts in evidence.
• Explanations of deficiencies when research is insufficient to reach a conclusion.
A new edition of Genealogy Standards is expected to be ready by next March. A new application guide and judging rubrics incorporating the new standards will be released at about the same time. In the interim, portfolios submitted for consideration for certification will be evaluated using the existing Genealogy Standards.
 The Board for Certification of Genealogists® (BCG) contractually granted the publisher of Genealogy Standards the exclusive right to copy, publish and distribute the standards including amendments. However, BCG-certified associates have the contractual right to include reasonable portions of the standards in presentations, articles, blog posts, social media, and the like. In no case may BCG or its associates allow the standards to be published in their entirety because the publisher deems that competitive to its publication rights.
The words Certified Genealogist and the designation CG are registered certification marks and the designations Certified Genealogical Lecturer and CGL are service marks of the Board for Certification of Genealogists, used under license by board-certified associates after periodic competency evaluations, and the board name is registered in the U.S. Patent & Trademark Office.
After a break, Mondays with Myrt 18 June 2018 was soooo full of the latest genea-news, that it spilled over into WACKY Wednesday 20 June 2018. Our first segment features Blaine Bettinger discussing his newly unveiled DNA Central located at https://dna-central.com
We also discuss:
Resources for learning how to integrate DNA results into paper-trail research
NGS free access to most of FindMyPast record sets
German research track at #FGS2018
Map-based research logs
AniMap by Goldbug
Elizabeth Shown Mill’s notes
British & Irish Military Records Study Group
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Nordic
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum
Reclaim the Records – NYC Marriage Licenses
The Legal Genealogist’s What’s a Compilation Copyright?”
19:14:26 From LisaGorrell : Just signed up. Really excited to explore the site.
19:14:28 From Dave Robison : Blaine, you were the subject of a conversation yesterday at the Cape Cod Genealogical Society’s annual meeting. I only wish I knew about DNA-Central!!
19:14:49 From nana2 : What are the best web browsers to use to access DNA-Central? [We’ve tested the site using Chrome, Safari and Firefox.]
19:16:34 From Karen Trearchis : Congratulations Blaine Bettinger!
19:17:05 From Mary Roddy : OK, I signed up!
19:18:10 From Mary Roddy : Are you planning on anything regarding writing about using DNA? How it fits into the GPS, what we need to document?
19:18:31 From Nadine : Do you or will you cover how to organize this data from all of the matches? I am feeling overwhelmed and need tips on this.
19:19:06 From LisaGorrell : How do we put the data into a proof argument?
19:19:37 From Cousin Russ : Membership in DNA Central is $99/year or $9.99/month. Both membership levels give you all the benefits of DNA Central. To join during this beta launch, GGTT [Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques] members can use this link or the coupon code “GGTT” to get $10 off a yearly membership! https://www.facebook.com/groups/geneticgenealogytipsandtechniques/
19:19:39 From Dave Robison : I need all of these resources….I’m beginning to get many responses from my paternal side where I’ve asked everyone to test and compare notes.
19:20:17 From Melissa : I am excited to share this new site with my genealogy class on Tuesday!
19:22:10 From Karen Trearchis : I already began the Myheritage course.
Regarding SPAM EMAIL
19:26:54 From jacquelinewilson : I also put mine in spam and send an email to the person and say that they may have been hacked.
19:26:56 From Karen Trearchis : In a Mac you drag into Junk mail and then go to junk folder and then click a dropdown menu that says erase junk mail.
19:27:37 From Louis : I use Windows Defender which is free and comes with Windows 10 and I’ve never had a virus.
19:28:45 From Karen Trearchis : For my Mac, I use Malwarebytes Anti Malware. You use this when you think you have a problem or want to see if you do have a problem. However, always is ok.
19:29:45 From Karen Trearchis : I will check .
19:30:06 From jacquelinewilson : I am on a MAC and use Avast.
19:30:10 From Louis : Yes, it’s me, Louis Kessler.
19:30:13 From nana2 : For my HP laptop, I use McAfee, which came with it.
19:30:29 From Karen Trearchis : Yes, https://www.malwarebytes.com
19:31:18 From Karen Trearchis : It used to be free and the address was .org
19:31:57 From nana2 : I have two email addresses. One is with Wyoming.com and the other is Gmail. They both have the option to send things to Junk.
19:32:06 From Karen Trearchis : The Mac technicians use Malwarebytes, too.
19:32:23 From Karen Trearchis : At apple.com
19:33:13 From Cousin Russ : https://www.mcafee.com
19:33:19 From Cousin Russ : https://www.avast.com
19:33:49 From nana2 : I just want to say that I’m so happy we are all back together tonight. 🙂
19:34:25 From Jeanne Mower : you mentioned all are the same, but can you talk about fake ones
19:35:02 From nana2 : With GEDmatch, you can make an exclusive email address for people to contact you for chatting about your matches.
19:35:24 From jacquelinewilson : My question is do you need both a virus protection and malware protection?
19:35:54 From Karen Trearchis : For Mac people google David A. Cox, he owns his own business at the Cape, he suggested this product. He hasfree youtube classes on Macs.
19:37:12 From Karen Trearchis : Macs has a firewall, too.
19:37:44 From Dustin The NGS [National Genealogical Society] Quarterly is worth the membership alone! http://www.ngsgenealogy.org
19:38:33 From Cousin Russ : REGISTER TODAY – S.L.I.G. *VIRTUAL* . Nordic . Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum (Both AM & PM sessions filled the first day!) More info at http://www.slig.ugagenealogy.org #SLIGVirtual #SLIG
19:38:54 From Mary Roddy : NGS also offers a FREE subscription to FindMYPast. It is not the full subscription, but is has a lot of material. Here’s the link. https://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/findmypast
19:40:58 From Cousin Russ : German track at FGS http://voice.fgs.org/2018/06/german-research-track-at-fgs-2018.html #genealogy
19:42:54 From Dustin : I have done full track’s for one day of conference. I did a whole day of BCG courses.
19:43:00 From Cousin Russ : Reclaim the Records: Index to New York City Marriage Licenses, 1996-2017 https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/11/
19:43:03 From Mary Roddy to All panelists : YES! They have done so much good stuff. NY Death indexes from late 1800s thru mid-1900s I think
19:44:32 From Cousin Russ : Map Based Research Log http://genealogytipoftheday.com/index.php/2018/06/03/a-map-based-research-log
19:44:59 From Dustin to All panelists : I keep maps for all the areas I need to research for my next Kentucky research trip
19:45:54 From jacquelinewilson : I am creating such a map for my current research in Missouri. Multiple boundary changes during the time period I am researching.
19:46:05 From Mary Roddy: I use this site all the time to see county maps for each state. It really helps to understand the geography. https://geology.com/county-map/nebraska.shtml
19:46:49 From Deb : In northwest Alabama you have to know when Marion, Winton, Lawrence, and Franklin redivided. Haleyville is in Winston and Marion counties.
19:49:47 From Deb: AniMaps is cool, it shows the counties by the date.
19:59:07 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s 54 page report on this project is found here: Elizabeth Shown Mills,“Samuel Witter (1787–1876) & Wife Rachel “Lizzie” Smith (ca. 1802–1854: Research Notes,” A Working File Updated 5 December 2013; archived online at E. S. Mills, Historic Pathways (www.HistoricPathways.com : 20 June 2018).
19:59:53 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s talk was reviewed by Yvette Hoitink, CG on the BCG website here: https://bcgcertification.org/skillbuilding-ngs-2018-9/
20:02:31 From Cousin Russ : 2018 NGS Conference Playback (video & audio) 2018 Samuel Witter vs. Samuel Witter: Separating Same-Name Soldiers, War of 1812 by Elizabeth Shown Mills “Presenter(s): Elizabeth Shown Mills CG, CGL, FASG, FNGS, FUGA Session#: 7780-F311 Session Length: 60 Minutes Program: NGS 2018 Family History Conference Date: May 4, 2018 $14 for http://www.playbackngs.com/7780-f311
20:02:41 From jacquelinewilson : I was able to hear that talk via live stream!
20:03:39 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:03:48 From Cousin Russ : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:04:23 From jacquelinewilson : That is true will all of her talks! I have been lucky to see her several times in the past!!!!!
20:05:15 From Cousin Russ : What’s a COMPILATION COPYRIGHT? Judy G. Russell explains it succinctly. https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/06/12/about-that-copyright-notice
Over the years DearMYRTLE here has hosted several groups studying Thomas W. Jones, Mastering Genealogical Proof (Arlington, Virginia: National Genealogical Society, 2013). The book is available from the publisher at http://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/mastering_genealogical_proof , also available in Kindle format through Amazon.com. Below find the embedded video of MGP Study Group 3 in playlist format, from DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel. Below the viewer is the list of chapters with links to the previous two study group series.
Dr. Jones’ book also includes the following:
Appendix A – Pritchett Article
Appendix B – McLain Article
Reading and Source List
Answers to exercises (Yup! The answers are at the end of the book.)
Our final type of a written conclusion is the most complicated – the dreaded Proof Argument. Why ‘dreaded’ ? Well as Ol’ Myrt said – it’s complicated. A researcher arrives at a conclusion when analysis of multiple documents appear to provide information about a fact in an ancestor’s life. But it isn’t as cut and dry as a Proof Statement or a Proof Summary.
You’ll begin your study on page 87 in Dr. Jones’ book where he says “Proof arguments are documented narratives in which genealogists explain why the answer to a complex genealogical problem should be considered proved.” Find out there why the author also recommend three major sections to your proof argument. Here is our study group session to assist you with composing a proof argument.
I’ve had to write this sort of complicated narrative with pen and paper on occasion, instead of just typing things up. The dining room table was cleared, and I was able to work through every relevant document I collected. There is conflicting evidence to be resolved about of the birth year of my grandmother. Ol Myrt here must consider an old family story provided by my mother. It is her mother, Frances Irene (Goering) Froman McDonnell that we are once again studying.
To begin with, I’ll need to explain the family tradition that our grandmother lied about her birth year because when she met her second husband, she never wanted him to know she was three years older than he. Grandma Frances made mother promise if she died before her husband, mom was to keep the secret going. That’s why the funeral card isn’t a reliable source for the birthdate.
I’d spend much time writing about each document, indicating how I weighed the evidence. I’d insert a table to keep track of things. I’d have to present documents to explain her change of name due to two marriages. I’d include census records, her 1st marriage license, and her delayed birth certificate. The latter is the most significant, since it was signed by the physician attending her birth. Of course, I would appropriately cite each item, as this gives me the opportunity to consider the motivation of each informant.
I particularly like the delayed birth certificate since the attending physician signed it, most likely having looked at her files to verify her findings. I remember my father had two rooms of patient files where he kept copious, though sometimes cryptic, notes during each examination – but I digress.
Then having lead my reader ‘down theeach garden path’ I’d restate my premise that Frances Irene (Goering) Froman McDonnell was born 22 Aug 1905.
That’s the thing about written conclusions. While we do our very best to ‘get it right’ there is always the possibility that our hopefully very educated guess is incorrect. I was glad when new-to-me, more convincing evidence came to light.
How is your “complicated’ Proof Argument coming along?
Aside from learning it’s all about explaining your thought process in narrative format, participants may compose written conclusions based on each session’s topic.
Follow along with the four weekly hangout sessions.
Incorporate the principles Dr. Jones presents in Chapter 7 as mentioned above.
Compose a written conclusion based on your own research.
Make sure to include your name on the top of the page.
Include reference material as follows:
Jones, Thomas W., “The Written Conclusion” Mastering Genealogical Proof, (Arlington, Virginia: National Genealogical Society, 2013).
Richley-Erickson, Pat. Mastering Genealogical Proof Study Group, DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel (http://ow.ly/dmhX30dhvOS : viewed July 2017).
Publish your conclusion in blog or public Google Doc format.
Submit only 1 conclusion per week as follows:
Week 1: Proof Statement
Week 2: Proof Summary
Week 3: Proof Proof Argument
Week 4: Clear Writing (take one of your previous proofs and rewrite following Dr. Jones’ advice.)