MyHeritage LIVE is happening in Oslo, Norway 2-4 Nov 2018. It’s their first ever users conference. Just look at the lineup of speakers – internationally renowned in the fields of genealogy and DNA. MyHeritage LIVE will feature lectures and hands-on workshops. The conference will be held at the Radisson Blu Scandinavia hotel in Oslo, Norway. The hotel is located in the center of Oslo, near the Royal Palace. For the official conference schedule click here.
Keynote talks from Founder and CEO Gilad Japhet, there will be genealogy and DNA lecture tracks and hands-on workshops to take you through MyHeritage tools and features step-by-step. If you have a specific question, our support staff will be on hand throughout to assist you.
Special evening events and lunches, included in your registration fee, will give you the chance to meet other MyHeritage users from around the world and mingle with MyHeritage staff and experts.
Ol’ Myrt here just received the following from Daniel Horowitz, the Chief Genealogist at MyHeritage:
We are just 8 days away from an exciting weekend in Oslo and I have good news to share with you. We are making the final arrangements to live stream the genealogy and DNA tracks online on the MyHeritage LIVE conference website, so please tune in from 9:00 a.m. Oslo time on 3 November. If you need help calculating the time difference to your local time zone, you can use https://www.thetimezoneconverter.com/. Make sure to visit the conference website to see the full schedule and tune in at the time of the lecture to watch the live stream.
25 June 2018 Mondays with MyrtOur flagship webinar, where we talk about anything and everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the last week. Our special guest is Myrt’s cousin David Taylor, developer of The Family Nexus – a map and pedigree chart smart phone app that alerts users to the locations of ancestral events.
10:02:16 From Dave Robison: https://blog.myheritage.com/2018/06/myheritage-offers-free-dna-tests-to-help-reunite-separated-migrant-children-with-their-parents/
10:02:31 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Good Morning to everyone.
10:03:07 From June Butka to All panelists : Warm hellos to everyone.
10:05:04 From June Butka : Warm Hello to everyone.
10:05:11 From David Taylor to All panelists : I’d like to share this link later on when I talk about the crowdfunding campaign. https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:05:11 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I’ve been using Newspapers.com for two weeks now, and finding more goodies – here’s one that correctsd a death date – https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/06/3rd-great-grandmother-mary-vaux.html
10:05:18 From Deb Andrew : Goodmorning.
10:05:37 From Robbin Smith : Good Morning from warm and humid miami
10:05:39 From JoAnn : Good Afternoon
10:05:46 From Holly Hansen : Great!
10:05:55 From Pamela to All panelists : Cheers, everyone!
DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
10:07:23 From Sheryl : Hello from South Louisiana
10:08:37 From Randy Seaver : Good morning from sunny but still cool Chula Vista CA
10:10:20 From Bill West : Good morning from gloomy southeastern Massachusetts
10:12:02 From Marcia Philbrick : Myrt – I live on highway 36 in Kansas (Seneca, KS).
10:13:22 From June Butka : His phone is at 49% battery life.
10:13:35 From Dave Robison Available for Android??
10:15:03 From Hilary Gadsby: Not yet
10:18:36 From Randy Seaver : I doubt that Geneva Tweddell married a Roger Dumb or a Johnny Dee, but wouldn’t that be funny?
10:19:29 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Did he mention “Hardin” and if so, a location or a family name?
10:20:00 From Hilary Gadsby : Being able to display on your phone makes it easier to share with family.
10:20:55 From Randy Seaver : hi True Lewis, are you home now?
10:22:07 From True Lewis : Hello Randy! – yes , I made it back last night.
10:23:15 From Marcia Philbrick : uninstalling the app and re-installing fixed the crashing app for me
10:23:20 From Randy Seaver : so you do need [to link to a] FamilySearch Family Tree, right?
10:23:36 From deecoz : How does the data get into the app? (I had a crash & missed that point.)
10:23:56 From Cousin Russ : firstname.lastname@example.org
10:24:06 From David Taylor : Crowd sourcing the fundraising efforts for the Android vresion of the program https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:24:22 From Cousin Russ : https://thefamilynexus.com/
10:24:27 From Cousin Russ : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:24:29 From nana2 : Thanks, Dave Taylor. There goes my plans for yard work today. I got the premium edition at RootsTech2018, but haven’t really felt like I understood it well enough to use it much until today. Thanks again!
10:25:25 From Janine Edmee Hakim : Thank you, very interesting
10:27:08 From DearMYRTLE : https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-family-nexus-for-android-apps-iphone/#/
10:28:52 From Hilary Gadsby : Can you use it anywhere in the world?
10:29:14 From David Taylor : @Hilary Yes it works everywhere!
10:29:28 From Randy Seaver : the late late show video was wonderful fun
10:29:41 From Hilary Gadsby : great video
10:29:47 From Marian Koalski : I was amazed by the visit with Paul McCartney.
[We shared some pic of True Lewis attending the Daughters of the American Revolution annual “Congress.” Find out more about the DAR at http://www.DAR.org ]
10:29:54 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Beautiful True.
10:30:01 From Marian Koalski : Superb gown, True!
10:30:24 From Melinda Culpon : Absolutely beautiful!
10:30:43 From Hilary Gadsby : loved that pboto
10:32:16 From Marian Koalski : You make me want to go back, True! I remember long days and sore feet.
10:35:47 From Linda : The early Daughters were laughed at for purchasing useless swamp land!
10:38:57 From Deb Andrew : Why would you have to cover the insigma? Is it a secret society?
10:40:09 From Marian Koalski : It isn’t secret. I’m puzzled by what True says about the insignia. Around Mass., we’re encouraged to wear the insignia to public events — but behave like ladies!
10:40:32 From Marian Koalski : We wear them at Memorial Day observances, etc.
10:40:36 From deecoz : Campfire Girls used to have robes worn only within the meetings. As did Job’s Daughters. Customs vary with organizations and times.
10:41:45 From Linda : DAR insignia may be worn in public at official events. However, it must be covered when eating in restaurants, in bars, etc. Otherwise, it is just worn at DAR meetings and conferences.
10:45:00 From June Butka : I loved following you [True Lewis] on Facebook.
10:47:46 From Cousin Russ : Black ProGen hangouts http://www.whoisnickasmith.com/blackprogen/
10:48:37 From True Lewis : Linda that is the way I was taught about Insignia in Public. Meetings and Conferences and Official Events.
11:00:24 From Randy Seaver : Pat – you could put the obituary transcription in the Notes and the source in the Source field
11:02:20 From Marian Koalski : I try to put any images of documents that I have into the Memories section, in hopes that people will see the facts more clearly.
11:03:32 From Molly : I have a step-great grandfather who married 2 Alices. My great grandmother was the second one. All the children listed were from the 1st Alice. I keep finding all his children being atriibuted to my great grandmother.
11:09:34 From Marcia Philbrick : As a teacher in a small rural school, we had two students with the same first, middle and last name and same birthdate. They were in the same graduating class. We told them apart in our record keeping by the community they lived in.
11:10:59 From Marian Koalski : Tough to be an educator in that situation!
11:13:40 From Cousin Russ : Citing “LOCATIONAL DATA” in one’s own office – Evidence Explained FB Group https://www.facebook.com/evidenceexplained/photos/a.304242282984494.69857.297329857009070/1979628775445828/?type=3
11:14:08 From Dave Robison : Thanks for letting me discuss NERGC. Registration will be opening soon. http://www.nergc.org
11:14:39 From Marian Koalski : It would help me find my own stuff again!
11:14:49 From June Butka : That would be okay if that is where the items stays. You would need to remember to change it if you moved.
11:15:02 From jacquelinewilson : Overshare – because every time it gets moved, you would have to change the station!
11:15:18 From Molly : I am laughing about that as I am constantly moving stuff around. It would not work for me.
11:16:25 From June Butka : Provenence is what I put in my meta data on a digital copy.
11:16:49 From Marian Koalski : I make notations about folder and file name in my citations. They’re mostly for me anyway, and it might help a grand-kid find it later.
11:23:51 From Melinda Culpon : Dr Jones at IGHR says that he edits almost all footnotes and citations get edited as a printed space issue.
11:23:54 From Cousin Russ : https://www.facebook.com/evidenceexplained/
11:24:22 From jacquelinewilson : No wonder I had issues with it yesterday!
11:25:15 From Melinda Culpon : you were missed!
11:27:14 From Randy Seaver : That was Hannah Morden of Living DNA. I talked to her and David Nicholson at Jamboree
11:27:22 From True Lewis : Thanks for everything Dear Myrtle (Pat) & Cousin Russ for being on this Journey with me from the beginning! I enjoyed being here this afternoon.
11:28:01 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : An honor to have you!
11:28:19 From Deb Andrew : Is it more than what is on your results on the web page?
11:28:44 From Randy Seaver : how much did the book cost?
11:28:47 From True Lewis : My Welsh line is J1 my Evans.
11:29:36 From Marcia Philbrick : Email from tngusers list — Many TNG (The Next Generation) web sites were hacked last night. It evidently affected sites running TNG 11. The resolution is to restore from a backup and then update to version 12.0.1 http://www.tngsitebuilding.com/
11:35:12 From Randy Seaver : I was at San Diego FamilySearch Library last Saturday finding English parish records for my project study presentation
11:35:23 From Cousin Russ : Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback
After a break, Mondays with Myrt 18 June 2018 was soooo full of the latest genea-news, that it spilled over into WACKY Wednesday 20 June 2018. Our first segment features Blaine Bettinger discussing his newly unveiled DNA Central located at https://dna-central.com
We also discuss:
Resources for learning how to integrate DNA results into paper-trail research
NGS free access to most of FindMyPast record sets
German research track at #FGS2018
Map-based research logs
AniMap by Goldbug
Elizabeth Shown Mill’s notes
British & Irish Military Records Study Group
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Nordic
Salt Lake Institute of Genealogy [SLIG] Virtual Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum
Reclaim the Records – NYC Marriage Licenses
The Legal Genealogist’s What’s a Compilation Copyright?”
19:14:26 From LisaGorrell : Just signed up. Really excited to explore the site.
19:14:28 From Dave Robison : Blaine, you were the subject of a conversation yesterday at the Cape Cod Genealogical Society’s annual meeting. I only wish I knew about DNA-Central!!
19:14:49 From nana2 : What are the best web browsers to use to access DNA-Central? [We’ve tested the site using Chrome, Safari and Firefox.]
19:16:34 From Karen Trearchis : Congratulations Blaine Bettinger!
19:17:05 From Mary Roddy : OK, I signed up!
19:18:10 From Mary Roddy : Are you planning on anything regarding writing about using DNA? How it fits into the GPS, what we need to document?
19:18:31 From Nadine : Do you or will you cover how to organize this data from all of the matches? I am feeling overwhelmed and need tips on this.
19:19:06 From LisaGorrell : How do we put the data into a proof argument?
19:19:37 From Cousin Russ : Membership in DNA Central is $99/year or $9.99/month. Both membership levels give you all the benefits of DNA Central. To join during this beta launch, GGTT [Genetic Genealogy Tips & Techniques] members can use this link or the coupon code “GGTT” to get $10 off a yearly membership! https://www.facebook.com/groups/geneticgenealogytipsandtechniques/
19:19:39 From Dave Robison : I need all of these resources….I’m beginning to get many responses from my paternal side where I’ve asked everyone to test and compare notes.
19:20:17 From Melissa : I am excited to share this new site with my genealogy class on Tuesday!
19:22:10 From Karen Trearchis : I already began the Myheritage course.
Regarding SPAM EMAIL
19:26:54 From jacquelinewilson : I also put mine in spam and send an email to the person and say that they may have been hacked.
19:26:56 From Karen Trearchis : In a Mac you drag into Junk mail and then go to junk folder and then click a dropdown menu that says erase junk mail.
19:27:37 From Louis : I use Windows Defender which is free and comes with Windows 10 and I’ve never had a virus.
19:28:45 From Karen Trearchis : For my Mac, I use Malwarebytes Anti Malware. You use this when you think you have a problem or want to see if you do have a problem. However, always is ok.
19:29:45 From Karen Trearchis : I will check .
19:30:06 From jacquelinewilson : I am on a MAC and use Avast.
19:30:10 From Louis : Yes, it’s me, Louis Kessler.
19:30:13 From nana2 : For my HP laptop, I use McAfee, which came with it.
19:30:29 From Karen Trearchis : Yes, https://www.malwarebytes.com
19:31:18 From Karen Trearchis : It used to be free and the address was .org
19:31:57 From nana2 : I have two email addresses. One is with Wyoming.com and the other is Gmail. They both have the option to send things to Junk.
19:32:06 From Karen Trearchis : The Mac technicians use Malwarebytes, too.
19:32:23 From Karen Trearchis : At apple.com
19:33:13 From Cousin Russ : https://www.mcafee.com
19:33:19 From Cousin Russ : https://www.avast.com
19:33:49 From nana2 : I just want to say that I’m so happy we are all back together tonight. 🙂
19:34:25 From Jeanne Mower : you mentioned all are the same, but can you talk about fake ones
19:35:02 From nana2 : With GEDmatch, you can make an exclusive email address for people to contact you for chatting about your matches.
19:35:24 From jacquelinewilson : My question is do you need both a virus protection and malware protection?
19:35:54 From Karen Trearchis : For Mac people google David A. Cox, he owns his own business at the Cape, he suggested this product. He hasfree youtube classes on Macs.
19:37:12 From Karen Trearchis : Macs has a firewall, too.
19:37:44 From Dustin The NGS [National Genealogical Society] Quarterly is worth the membership alone! http://www.ngsgenealogy.org
19:38:33 From Cousin Russ : REGISTER TODAY – S.L.I.G. *VIRTUAL* . Nordic . Advanced Evidence Analysis Practicum (Both AM & PM sessions filled the first day!) More info at http://www.slig.ugagenealogy.org #SLIGVirtual #SLIG
19:38:54 From Mary Roddy : NGS also offers a FREE subscription to FindMYPast. It is not the full subscription, but is has a lot of material. Here’s the link. https://www.ngsgenealogy.org/cs/findmypast
19:40:58 From Cousin Russ : German track at FGS http://voice.fgs.org/2018/06/german-research-track-at-fgs-2018.html #genealogy
19:42:54 From Dustin : I have done full track’s for one day of conference. I did a whole day of BCG courses.
19:43:00 From Cousin Russ : Reclaim the Records: Index to New York City Marriage Licenses, 1996-2017 https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/11/
19:43:03 From Mary Roddy to All panelists : YES! They have done so much good stuff. NY Death indexes from late 1800s thru mid-1900s I think
19:44:32 From Cousin Russ : Map Based Research Log http://genealogytipoftheday.com/index.php/2018/06/03/a-map-based-research-log
19:44:59 From Dustin to All panelists : I keep maps for all the areas I need to research for my next Kentucky research trip
19:45:54 From jacquelinewilson : I am creating such a map for my current research in Missouri. Multiple boundary changes during the time period I am researching.
19:46:05 From Mary Roddy: I use this site all the time to see county maps for each state. It really helps to understand the geography. https://geology.com/county-map/nebraska.shtml
19:46:49 From Deb : In northwest Alabama you have to know when Marion, Winton, Lawrence, and Franklin redivided. Haleyville is in Winston and Marion counties.
19:49:47 From Deb: AniMaps is cool, it shows the counties by the date.
19:59:07 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s 54 page report on this project is found here: Elizabeth Shown Mills,“Samuel Witter (1787–1876) & Wife Rachel “Lizzie” Smith (ca. 1802–1854: Research Notes,” A Working File Updated 5 December 2013; archived online at E. S. Mills, Historic Pathways (www.HistoricPathways.com : 20 June 2018).
19:59:53 From Cousin Russ : ESM’s talk was reviewed by Yvette Hoitink, CG on the BCG website here: https://bcgcertification.org/skillbuilding-ngs-2018-9/
20:02:31 From Cousin Russ : 2018 NGS Conference Playback (video & audio) 2018 Samuel Witter vs. Samuel Witter: Separating Same-Name Soldiers, War of 1812 by Elizabeth Shown Mills “Presenter(s): Elizabeth Shown Mills CG, CGL, FASG, FNGS, FUGA Session#: 7780-F311 Session Length: 60 Minutes Program: NGS 2018 Family History Conference Date: May 4, 2018 $14 for http://www.playbackngs.com/7780-f311
20:02:41 From jacquelinewilson : I was able to hear that talk via live stream!
20:03:39 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:03:48 From Cousin Russ : https://www.historicpathways.com/download/samuelwitterrachelsmith.pdf
20:04:23 From jacquelinewilson : That is true will all of her talks! I have been lucky to see her several times in the past!!!!!
20:05:15 From Cousin Russ : What’s a COMPILATION COPYRIGHT? Judy G. Russell explains it succinctly. https://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/06/12/about-that-copyright-notice
10:06:13 From June Butka : I have several Rev. War Patriots, however none in the DAR or SAR are for my Line. I believe I now can join. with the information I collected for my Mayflower line.
10:08:20 From marian koalski : Ditto in Massachusetts, John!
10:08:31 From Dawn Carlile : It is definitely spring in Oregon!
10:08:40 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Snow testerday, sun sun sun today…so far in Upstate NY
10:09:00 From Randy Seaver : spring in San Diego area – was gray this morning, but clearing off now.
10:09:14 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : beautiful spring NOT HUMID day in Houston
10:10:59 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Maureen Taylor, the Photo Detective https://maureentaylor.com/
10:11:48 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I read recently even if you are not going to a society to do an app as great research tool.
10:13:06 From Holly Hansen : 2018 International Family History Expo https://familyhistoryexpos.com/viewevent/index/190
10:13:55 From June Butka : I have several Rev. War Patriots, however none in the DAR or SAR are for my Line. I believe I now can join. with the information I collected for my Mayflower line.
10:17:35 From Holly Hansen : https://familyhistoryexpos.com/calldescriptions/index/190
10:19:14 From Shelley Murphy : June, if you need any help with DAR, let me know.
10:21:16 From June Butka : I’ll wait.
10:21:45 From June Butka : Mine were. They are registered, not just my line.
10:21:47 From Sheri Fenley : June – proving a new patriot is a very good thing! Need to prove service and residence
10:22:13 From June Butka : thank you all for the help offer.
10:22:41 From Rachel Evans : I have several options to join DAR with but I want to enter under a female ancestor who nursed her brother and another man wounded in service.
10:24:01 From Sheri Fenley : Excellent idea!
10:25:59 From June Butka : Both Ancestry and Family Search were slow and needed to be refreshed.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: Sunday is always a big research day at FamilySearch. I don’t even venture out there if I can help it.
10:26:03 From Sheri Fenley : Wow I was on ancestry.com this morning and had no problems
10:26:29 From Melinda Culpon : Has anyone else see the doubling of middle names on ancestry recently?
10:26:57 From Valerie Lisk : Last night I did a Google search and was directed to 6 records on #Ancestry that did not show up on my Ancestry search.
10:27:04 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I have experienced searches being faulty. I found an ancestor by searching a child but there he was under the name I had previously searched very clealy. He didn’t show up when I searched by his name. This type of thing has happened often.
10:27:11 From marian koalski : Is the slowness appearing in Ancestry’s record searches or only on the DNA connection databases?
10:27:12 From June Butka : I’ve seen mutliple listing of records I knew only had one entry by me on my tree.
10:27:17 From Janine Edmée Hakim : I have a “devil of a time” trying to add to/edit information on records
10:27:49 From Melinda Culpon : Record searches for me Mariann.
10:28:08 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I don’t trust ancestry search results anymore.
10:29:24 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Is there any way to do a joint complaint?
10:29:45 From June Butka : Russ, when you said June, did you mean I’m updating my database?
10:29:47 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Speed is not the problem for me.
10:30:04 From Cousin Russ to June Butka : Yes you, June
10:30:12 From Deb Andrew : I had all three problems mentioned. My computer is the lastest and greatest you can have, high internet speed and band width.
10:30:34 From Bill West : I have had a hint leat for my great grandfather for a database that is no longer available. The leaf has been there for almost a year and I can’t remove it because the database isn’t available. Grrr.
10:31:57 From Deb Andrew : When, dh talked to him last week (he is in the tech industry) they told him, #Ancestry had fired their whole IT tech team.
10:33:43 From Randy Seaver : Deb, who did your did you talk to? At Ancestry? Fired IT team? wow.
10:34:43 From Dawn Carlile : Fold3 has many errors in their indexed records and I probably put in 80-100 corrections one evening and it was mainly that they did not sync with the images or the wrong info was typed, not that they couldn’t read they record. It was for WWI & WWII pension index cards.
10:34:47 From Dave Robison : “Speeling duzn’t cownt”
10:35:24 From Deb Andrew : DH talked to a manager at Ancestry. The first person tried to tell him nothing was wrong, he then asked to talk to a manager.
10:36:04 From Hilary Gadsby : If the records have been mistranscribed originally the corrections do not come over to Family Search just the original transcription. I found one for an Eleanor which had come over as something else just this weekend
10:36:30 From Randy Seaver : thank you, Deb. Amazing. Of course, they don’t have a server farm anymore. Management changes ==> layoffs ==> customer problems
10:36:49 From Dawn Carlile : I hear from professional researchers and they are bookmarking the records they use frequently so they can easily find them. Even if indexed they do not show up in the searches.
NOTE from DearMYRTLE: I recommend downloading each document, and citing it in your desktop genealogy database program. Your citation would conform with Elizabeth Shown Mills’ thinking including date viewed. See:
10:37:24 From Dawn Carlile : On familysearch I always check the ONLINE box.
10:37:39 From June Butka : I find if you look at the citation and see a film number and image number, use those numbers in the catalog search , not the collection. I found more that way without getting the index with no image. There were images available.
10:37:51 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Dawn – what does the ONLINE box accomplish?
10:38:08 From Deb Andrew : Ancestry said it would all be fix probably in two weeks, but no more than a month. I doubt it.
10:38:25 From Dawn Carlile : It only shows you results that are digitized so you do not have to keep clicking and loking to see what is digitized,
10:38:41 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : Russ, can you highlgiht Deb Andrew’s comments?
10:38:43 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I agree – the soundex helped me find a record that I couldn’t find otherwise on ancestry.
10:38:43 From Melissa Barker : Internet Archive is a great resource!
10:39:55 From Randy Seaver : Pension cards or draft registration cards?
10:41:43 From marian koalski : That leads to low morale among the remaining staff, too.
10:41:50 From Cousin Russ : https://www.familysearch.org/catalog/search
10:42:03 From Cousin Russ :https://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records
10:42:04 From DearMYRTLE to Cousin Russ(Privately) : https://www.ancestry.com/
10:43:32 From Dawn Carlile : Randy, it is under pension cards.
10:44:02 From Sherry Everett : I’m fairly new to genealogy and my first time here. so I’m sorry I know none of the people on the panel. thank you for providing info
10:44:10 From Valerie Lisk : What i the advantage of WikiTree over Familysearch?
10:45:00 From Dave Robison to Sherry Everett : Sherry Everett—Welcome to Mondays With Myrt!!
10:45:01 From June Butka : Those who offered DAR/SAR help can PM at Facebook June Stearns Butka.
10:45:01 From Micki Minner : I never could figure out how to use WikiTree…might be a good session for me to attend and learn
10:51:44 From Bill West : It drives me crazy that MyHeritage emails me they’ve found new records and most of them are not records but family trees on WikiTree and Geni.com. They are NOT records, they are trees!
10:52:05 From Kathleen` Newbill to All panelists : I agree with Bill West…it’s very frustrating!
10:52:33 From Valerie Lisk : I have RootsMagic and a tree on Familysearch. A DNA pedigree tree on all of the testing sites. I didn’t know if it was worth adding another online tree.
10:53:36 From DearMYRTLE : Daniel Horowitz is the Chief Genealogy Officer at MyHeritage.com
10:54:22 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Yes, Micki, WikiTree is hard to learn. One also has to have documentation — and list it all, for each person and event, which is good, but very time consuming when you have lots of people to add and no matches to others already on WikiTree. Also, when I finally found a person that was already on the tree however the person I contacted has still not replied so the person hasn’t been added as yet. That was a couple of months ago.
10:54:48 From Maria Tegtmeier : Speaking of DNA, I appreciated Pat sharing Thomas MacEntee’s post on FB about National DNA day and DNA scams.
10:54:56 From Cyndy Bray : I agree with Bill and Russ. Most of the trees I get from My Heritage are not sourced at all.
10:55:16 From Randy Seaver : Remember that WikiTree started before FamilySearch Family Tree, but after other collaborative trees like OneGreatFamily, One World Tree, etc.
10:56:13 From Randy Seaver : A WikiTree advantage is being able to upload a GEDCOM file, but you have to match your GEDCOM profiles to existing profiles.
10:56:28 From Dawn Carlile : Randy – The Fold3 description is Veterans Administration Pension Payment Cards, This image is an example. https://www.fold3.com/image/591268767
10:56:58 From marian koalski : The WikiTree presentation is visually difficult for me. I like their philosophy and efforts, but it’s hard for me to scan and separate the person’s profile from other stuff on the page.
10:57:36 From Sherry Everett : So for a novice, which is the best place to start? Ancestry or someplace else?
10:57:38 From Linda Jordan : Also, when I finally found a person that was already on the tree however the person I contacted has still not replied so the person hasn’t been added as yet. That was a couple of months ago.
10:59:51 From Randy Seaver : thank you, Dawn. I didn’t know about that collection. i’ll check it out later.
11:00:59 From Randy Seaver : Jackie – WikiTree is FREE, Geni.com is not for the big tree. WikiTree has GEDCOM upload, Geni does not. WikiTree has 17 million profiles, Geni claims 120 million.
11:02:08 From Randy Seaver : Geni provides Hints from MyHeritage, no Hints on WikiTree. Sources are prominent on WikiTree, nonexistent on Geni. WikiTree for genealogists, Geni started as a family photo sharing site.
11:03:12 From marian koalski : Yes, I like FamilySearch’s layout
11:05:00 From Rachel Evans : I think I spend more time in the Family Search trees fixing things. I have an ancestor who people keep changing his name and children to someone else’s. I put a discussion in his profile but people keep changing it back. It does get fustrating at times.
11:05:08 From Cyndy Bray : Famiy Search tree has errors for my famiy, not sure how to correct
11:05:12 From Dawn Carlile : I prefer the list of siblings and children on FamilySearch. The paragraph is to hard to scan and spot names.
11:05:21 From marian koalski : On FamilySearch, when I click on a fact, it will tell me which sources apply to it.
11:06:47 From Holly Hansen : You can watch ancestors or any individual in FamilySearch’s Tree, with email notifications that alert you to changes made. You can turn this on or off.
11:06:48 From Randy Seaver : I use FamilySearch’s Tree extensively because it will be long lasting and is BIG. But it has problems with duplicate profiles and anyone can change a profile. I use RootsMagic to match my RM persons to FSFT profiles and exchange data back and forth, standardize FSFT place names, etc.
11:07:44 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Does FamilySearch only allow a person to have one tree uploaded? [NOTE from DearMYRTLE: it’s one big tree, and we each add to it.]
11:08:10 From Jackie Wilson : I just saw that a woman just died this month – she was proved to have been born in 1900!
11:08:47 From Maria Tegtmeier : I love how RootsMagic integrates with FamilySearch. They are powerful together.
11:10:29 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : I have Legacy Family Tree.
11:10:36 From Shelley Murphy : I think I will set once a week time to work on my Roots Magic tree…I am not using it to its fullest. I get too busy chases DNA matches.
11:11:03 From Randy Seaver : FamilySearch Tree is the biggest available collaborative tree. I’ve found the 19th and early 20th century families are pretty accurate with few duplicates. Much of the data was input by LDS members from family records. 17th century profiles can be problematic – multiple sets of parents, multiple sets of children, duplicate spouses, etc.
11:11:55 From Randy Seaver : FST is set up to have discussions, to have sources, to have notes, including research notes. Users need to use all of that to foster better collaboration.
11:13:13 From Valerie Lisk : I met 3 previously unknown cousins on FST.
11:13:14 From Randy Seaver : Roxanne – watch some of the Legacy videos about using LFT with FamilySearch Family Tree.
11:13:52 From Roxanne Cummings Basey : Thanks Randy. Will do asap.
11:15:10 From marian koalski : The LFT videos are excellent, and they teach methods that could (should) be applied to other packages, too (like how to add sources, how to name places, etc.)
11:16:06 From Maria Tegtmeier : I like the FamilySearch Memory App [that syncs with my profile, or an ancestors’ at ]FamilySearch. You can easily record a memory or upload a picture and quickly link it to person.
11:16:54 From Deb Andrew : I had a issue with that, family said man was the father, when he was not, but his brother. I had to use DNA to prove it.
11:17:06 From Valerie Lisk : I added it once I found DNA proof. That’s what happened to my paternam grandmother.
11:17:28 From Dawn Carlile : I would add it to my RootsMagic tree and the source would say family tradition, who told me, etc.
11:17:38 From Dawn Carlile : DNA!
11:18:29 From Dawn Carlile : Keep in mind that those siblings were probably told that info by the same person.
11:26:02 From marian koalski : I put “maybe” at the front of the possible surname, like “maybe Franklin”
11:27:14 From Cousin Russ : DNA DAY and Thomas MacEntee’s warning – https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10160353011115374/
11:27:20 From Deb Andrew : I put an open note on Ancestry for a challenged descendant and why it is challenged.
11:30:02 From Micki Minner : I am the oldest of 4, and all 4 of us siblings have all different DNA percentages…however, I also found that 1 of us do not have the same mother and father as the other 3! Blaine Bettinger helped me determine that she must have been adopted or taken in by my parents. Shock to all of us! NOBODY knew…yes, I agree…even family tradition should be noted in your files! I have “suspicions” about her parentage, but no proof “yet”
11:30:25 From Shelley Murphy : I submitted a Living DNA test and waiting to see what comes back vs the other tests I have taken.
11:30:30 From Randy Seaver : I would add “Transfer raw data to GEDMatch” also, which is FREE.
11:30:34 From Shelley Murphy : “Cousin Bait”.
11:30:45 From Micki Minner : YEA…COUSIN BAIT!
11:30:52 From Betsey Cotter to All panelists : If I tested my parents, is there any reason to test my siblings?
11:31:31 From Randy Seaver : FTDNA, MyHeritage and GEDMatch have chromosome browsers that can help you find common DNA segments and identify common ancestors.
11:31:32 From Shelley Murphy : MyHeritage results came back and is a bit different then ancestry and 23andme. It was interesting.
11:32:16 From Shelley Murphy : When will Ancestry put up a chromosome browser?
11:33:14 From Randy Seaver : Shelley, they have resisted forever. We need a browser, but also the tools to identify chromosome segments that match.
11:33:47 From Kathleen` Newbill to All panelists : I thought the question was exclusionary…you and your siblings can only have the DNA your parents have. If they’ve tested, won’t their DNA cover the ground as far as relatives are concerned?
11:34:09 From Randy Seaver : MyHeritage has done a great job with the tools in a short time.
11:34:18 From Deb Andrew : I view testing siblings along with parents, is that the siblings, including yourself adds another layer for the future generations who are trying to reach back.
11:34:43 From Shelley Murphy : Living DNA was at Rootstech…it was also an interesting sales pitch.
11:35:04 From Shelley Murphy : I want to learn DNA Painter.
11:36:38 From Micki Minner : DNA Painter helped me a LOT! I would get DNA “matches” that I couldn’t figure out…and on DNA Painter you can easily see what side of the family the match lands!
11:36:42 From Bill West : I know of someone who insists that DNA testing is the final word in confirming the accuracy of a family tree but where results for siblings can differ I don’t think that is true.
11:36:59 From Valerie Lisk : They have linked Blaine’s cM chart to DNApainter as a calculator. You can change the amount of cM and see the posible relationships.
11:38:30 From Cousin Russ : DNA PAINTERhttps://dnapainter.com/
11:39:07 From Cousin Russ : DNA DAY and Thomas MacEntee’s warning video – https://www.facebook.com/groups/DearMYRTLE/permalink/10160353011115374/
11:39:33 From Cousin Russ : DNAQuest (pro bono by MyHeritage) is now world wide https://www.dnaquest.org/
11:40:32 From marian koalski : Is that young woman going to head-punch her grandmother with her hat?
11:40:39 From Shelley Murphy : They are building their nitch!
11:41:09 From Shelley Murphy : My numbers were different vs ancestryDNA
11:42:36 From Dawn Carlile : Not that one. It is the MyHeritage DNA, not Geoff Live.
11:43:29 From Cousin Russ : Hands-On with MyHeritageDNA https://familytreewebinars.com/download.php?webinar_id=792
11:43:48 From Cyndy Bray : MyHeritage webinars are always free on Legacy’s Family Tree Webinars.
11:43:49 From Shelley Murphy : It’s the best $49 a year I have spent.
11:43:56 From Dawn Carlile : Geoff is also related to Ron Snir, I think it was him. One of the two men from MyHeritage that day anyway.
11:44:20 From Cousin Russ : Gail Dever Petition to save WWI-era Ukrainian internee cemetery in Quebec http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=23508
11:44:22 From Randy Seaver : Ethnicity estimates with different companies are varied – I’ve found 23andMe and MyHeritage are best for me. It has everything to do with the reference groups used to identify n ethnicity
11:44:32 From Cousin Russ : Judy Russell’s NARA DIGITIZED RECORDS http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/20/and-another-thing/
11:44:46 From Cousin Russ : We CONTINUE our discussion here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/b/102461242403735457058/+DearmyrtlePage/posts/DSxgndQdEqp
11:45:05 From Cousin Russ : This technology will become available by the end of the year? Wow! https://thefamilycurator.com/how-to-preserve-and-test-old-letters-for-grandmas-dna/
11:45:07 From Valerie Lisk : They have sales were it’s 40% off and usually Thomas M. gives a coupon code for an additional 15% off.
11:45:08 From Cousin Russ : .
11:47:34 From Donna Burleaud : Thanks for keeping us so well informed about genealogy topics!
11:47:52 From Janine Edmée Hakim : te title of the article is Can DNA testing be trusted? The shockingly imprecise science of a proven courtroom tool
11:47:56 From Shelley Murphy : Good talk today…enjoy the rest of your day!
11:48:20 From Dawn Carlile : Wonderful information once again!
11:48:23 From Danine Cozzens : So much helpful info today — thanks to all!
11:48:37 From Randy Seaver : Janine, thery don’t use the genealogy tools for criminal testing – they use other DNA test methods.
11:48:41 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Great Hang out!
11:49:08 From Deb Andrew : Yes,
11:50:28 From Hilary Gadsby : I am going to get some birthday cake and more tea. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
11:50:45 From Tina Torsey : What Chapter are we doing Wed?
11:53:36 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen Study Group, Wednesday, April 25, 2018 Chapter 4 “Evidence”, Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles)
SYLLABUS – Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback
11:53:51 From Tina Torsey to All panelists : thanks
11:56:30 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Thanks Randy Seaver… good to know that the DNA that might be collected from an artifact or stamp will be more accurately analyzed and therefore be reliable when it is used for genealogy.
Wednesday, 25 April 2018 THE ARCHIVE LADY, 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles) We are delighted to feature our resident archivist Melissa LeMaster Barker, who serves as the Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives. A popular genealogical speaker, author and blogger, Melissa is also the FGS Forum Reviews Editor.
11:59:25 From Valerie Lisk : John do you know approx. how much you need per day in Stratford Upon Avon for food etc?
12:01:06 From Valerie Lisk : How much would a pub meal be. We are doing the hop on hop off bus.
12:02:39 From Valerie Lisk : I’m trying to make sure I load my travel card with enogh money.
12:02:40 From Kathleen` Newbill : 12 to 15 Euro per person when I was in Belfast in February.
THANK-YOU to our special guest, Geoff Rasmussen for showing Ol’ Myrt the Google backup process.
00:41:44 Pat Kuhn: hi everyone
00:41:59 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good good morning Myrt and Russ
00:42:03 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hello To All!
00:42:04 Dave Robison: I missed last week, too!
00:42:07 Hilary Gadsby: I have a follow up to something I mentioned on the webinar with Tony last week
00:42:24 Robbin Smith: hello from miami
00:42:50 Bill West: Good afternoon from sunny, chilly Massachusetts.
00:44:53 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week: http://www.GeneaWebinars.com
00:45:04 Teri Chaffin: good morning
00:45:56 Melissa Barker: Hello, a little late, listening in from the Houston County, TN. Archives! The Archive Lady is here!
00:46:05 Cousin Russ: Geoff Rasmussen to discuss Google Backup (a manual procedure) https://takeout.google.com
00:46:39 John Laws: Tnknk you Sir
00:50:45 Valerie Lisk: I’m always watching the Legacy family tree webinars. This is weird to actually watch Geoff speaking.
00:54:29 Sheryl Whisenhunt: First time hearing about it.
00:54:34 Robbin Smith: new to me
00:54:37 Susan Bleimehl: Never knew about it.
00:54:53 Geoff Mulholland: First I have heard of it
00:55:19 Danine Cozzens: New to me, and I use a lot of Google products to keep an eye on my son’s employer.
00:55:27 Valerie Lisk: First I’ve heard ot it. Thanks for the link Russ, I’m going to watch that webinar.
00:58:03 Marian Koalski: I enjoyed hearing Dave Robison speak at the New England Family History Conference over the weekend. He is a busy man!
01:08:29 Cousin Russ: Randy Seaver’s BEST OF THE GENEA-BLOGS https://www.geneamusings.com/2018/04/best-of-genea-blogs-1-to-7-april-2018.html
01:08:36 Cousin Russ: .
01:08:42 Hilary Gadsby: We have some restrictions but I am not sure what they are. The most recent records do not have an index widely available.
01:10:05 Joanne Shackford Parkes: On Monday, I look forward Randy’s updates to Ancestry & FamilySearch lists along with the Best of Blogs list!
01:10:27 Cousin Russ: Judy Russell CHASING THE SS-5 http://www.legalgenealogist.com/2018/04/02/chasing-the-ss-5/
01:12:56 Dave Robison: Thanks for the mention, Marian! IT was a very busy weekend…
01:18:17 Janine Edmée Hakim: Russ, what has been your experience finding records in Ancestry for countries that are not specifically mentioned (like Israel)…
01:23:00 DearMYRTLE: Ancestry LOST their wiki link
01:23:33 Randy Seaver: Micki – yes, I do. I mine Hints for one database using that technique
01:24:33 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Find it easiest to get to the Family Search wiki by googling FamilySearch wiki county state then ensuring I look for the latest update
01:25:53 Marian Koalski: The Red Book info is at search.ancestry.com
01:26:19 Randy Seaver: Micki – it takes time for Ancestry to find Hints for your tree people. I usually wait 6 months after a new collection to search the Hints for that database.
01:26:44 Dawn Carlile: It now only talks about the company on regular wikipedia.
01:27:17 Cousin Russ: Lorine McGinnis Schulze lost 8 generations of research. https://www.facebook.com/olivetreegenealogy/posts/10155612560197815
01:29:00 Dawn Carlile: The Redbook can still be found at http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:30:09 Dave Robison: I just tried the Redbook link and I get “Whitelabel Error Page
01:30:10 Betty-Lu Burton: I have noticed while reveiwing index records for FamilySearc indexing that some indexers will assume the female middle name is the maiden name and I have seen times when yes it is a maiden name but the maiden name of the female’s mother or grandmother
01:31:16 Marian Koalski: I have found family members 30 years after thinking that I had them all… in probate records that have recently come online.
01:31:42 Marian Koalski: I should say “found ADDITIONAL family members”
01:32:06 Betty-Lu Burton: Ihave a family in the 1800’s where all the children had the grandmother’s maiden name for a middle name
01:33:23 Cousin Russ: Dawn – thank you, but it isn’t linked to “the Wiki”
01:33:47 Bill West: Having to trim a branch off the family tree is almost as painful for me as deciding which books I need to cull from my bookcase.
01:34:18 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Have found a book that takes my ancestors back six more generations, very good quality but really want to find the author’s original source material (tough as it was written in 1912). Do have distant DNA matches to some folks who also document this line but am still on the hunt for these original documents that the author used to write the book.
01:34:26 Cousin Russ: http://www.ancestry.com/wiki/?title=Red_Book:_American_State,_County,_and_Town_Sources
01:34:30 Dawn Carlile: The wiki is gone, just the Redbook works. If you search Wiki on Ancestry you only get a few articles, no wiki.
01:36:43 Randy Seaver: I’m still seeing Pat’s screen and not Russ’s comments
01:37:01 Doris Haskell: My first experience at the FHL was finding a book that had my paternal ancestors in a book about Lexington, MA records. The author did not itemize his sources, and this is still a source of a brick wall for me.
01:37:24 Janine Edmée Hakim: Thank you Cousin Russ, have sometimes found it difficult to find records for Indonesian relatives.
01:37:29 Randy Seaver: The latest blog post for Hints in a specific Ancestry database is https://www.geneamusings.com/2016/10/mining-ancestrycom-hints-by-specific.html
01:39:28 Betty-Lu Burton: I have found more information on my ancestors Italian towns in the French and Italian Wikipedia then in any of the English Wikis.
01:40:33 Dave Robison: The good news about the Red Book is that all I have to do to find it is look to myleft where it sits on a shelf!
01:42:28 Dave Robison: This Red Book is the Third Edition. I have no idea if that’s the latest.
01:42:33 Pat Kuhn: in my VanBilliard line there are two couples that have the same names and I keep finding trees that put children in the wrong family
01:44:56 Deb Andrew: I had a cousin who had to move his line over to a different ancestor. He thought my 2nd great grandfather was his great grandfather. Through extensive DNA testing it turns out that my 2nd great wasn’t but his brother was his great grandfather.
01:45:38 Randy Seaver: Amazon has Third Edition from 2004.
01:46:06 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Thanks for the tips – have a trip to Albany, NY in my future — this author actually also went to Haarlem, Holland so that’s also on my future dream trips!!
01:47:44 Randy Seaver: Hard cover Redbook on sale at Amazon is $40, only 10 left in stock. Kindle is $20
01:48:28 DearMYRTLE: regarding John Laws “You might find the original record BUT beware it may have original errors 1939 Register on FMP has my mother-in-law before her marriage has overwritten error and very misleading for a newbie.” FindMyPast 1939 Registerhttps://search.findmypast.com/search-world-records/1939-register
01:48:33 Rachel Evans: I have the same issue Pat. There are four generations of men named John Bennem in my tree. Not including collateral Johns. It’s difficult to keep track and even worse to try to get people to fix things.
01:48:41 Randy Seaver: every record MAY be wrong due to informant error or clerk error. Thankfully, most are correct.
01:58:27 Karen Trearchis: I am just joining your program today, so I hope this has not been stated today. I just learned to use BillionGraves [smart phone] app on Saturday. I had attended Family History Day in Franklin, MA. One of the speakers shared information on BillionGraves & taught us to use the app. We went to a local cemetery to practice & I am impressed. Once I practice I am going to see if other chapter members of MSOG want to work together in doing part or all of a cemetery. It was so fun!
01:58:54: Dave Robison: Karen Trearchis, that speaker was Brian Moncur who is the chief technology officer at Billion Graves
02:00:45 Karen Trearchis: Great idea Russ, we have Scout come to our chapter each year to earn their Merit Badge. One of the officers is also a Scout leader.
02:01:06 Randy Seaver: I really hate the ads now on FindAGrave. They slows down my work.
02:01:23 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Re the cemetery project – perhaps a local college has a GIS program and they would be willing to create a CAD drawing of the graveyard for you.
02:01:44 Karen Trearchis: What is GIS?
02:02:08 Marian Koalski: I think the same about FindaGrave, Myrt!
02:02:15 Yvonne Demoskoff: I sponsored my father’s memorial for a modest fee, which makes the ads disappear
02:02:35 Marian Koalski: It’s very hard to distinguish between data and advertising
02:04:25 Randy Seaver: I’m happy spring is here – I got two gravestone photos of 3rd great-grandparents stones on FindAGrave from a volunteer in Glocester RI.
02:06:22 Marian Koalski: Pat Kuehn, if you can email (or mail) me pieces of your project, I’ll be glad to do data entry for you.
02:08:00 Cousin Russ: Elizabeth Shown Mills weighs in onFormulating a research question. Why bother? https://www.evidenceexplained.com/content/using-family-search-citation
02:09:05 Cousin Russ: Facebook just promised to offer its users around the world the same privacy controls required under a new European data protection law. https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/04/08/technology/a-tough-task-for-facebook-european-type-privacy-for-all.html
02:09:16 Cousin Russ: Be sure to see Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 11,000+ groups and pages: http://socialmediagenealogy.com/genealogy-on-facebook-list –
02:09:22 Bill West: My research plan is based on finding the next shiny thing. Not very organized, I know, but it’s fun. :0
02:09:31 Dave Robison: We had a good reminder lesson from Thomas Jones at the MGC conference this past weekend.
02:09:57 John Laws: alangodfreymaps.co.uk
02:09:58 Dave Robison: Don’t forget Gail Devers list for Canadian FB pages.