ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 3 Surveying, Analyzing & Planning

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The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback

AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 3 “Surveying, Analyzing & Planning”

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00:38:22 Melissa Barker: Hello Everyone! Joining from the Houston County, TN. Archives!
00:39:45 Shelley Murphy: Hey there Lisa, Marcelne, Liberty, Sheri, Cheri…
00:39:55 Melissa Barker: Great Panel of all my favorites!
00:40:17 Cousin Russ: AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 3 Surveying, Analyzing & Planning combined homework
00:40:59 Cousin Russ: Marceline Beem – Chapter 3 homework –
00:45:15 Shelley Murphy: I think it provides and opportunity to ask it questions, you are talking to yourself.
00:47:06 Shelley Murphy: Yes Lisa! Thanks.
00:48:01 Sheryl Whisenhunt: I have learned that the hard way.
00:48:19 Cousin Russ: Liberty Evanko – Chapter 3 homework –
00:50:09 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good morning all
00:50:11 Anna Matthews: I’m working on a timeline that is morphing into a combination of timeline, research plan and research log. Its an excel file with multiple sheets.
00:52:04 DearMYRTLE: <3
00:52:56 Danine Cozzens: Question: How does one determine on Ancestry which family tree is copying from whom? I go by the sources (are there any?) and whether they agree with what I know so far. Any tips welcome!

Map Guide to US Federal Census

00:57:38 Cousin Russ: Map Guide to the U.S. Federal Censuses, 1790-1920 Second Printing 1988 Edition by William Thorndale (Author),‎ William Dollarhide
00:58:09 Danine Cozzens: Thank you!
00:59:08 Valerie Lisk: How do you do a T chart on the computer?
00:59:17 Janine Edmée Hakim: indeed….thank you so much, that is a GREAT chart
00:59:23 Deb Andrew: There is one other thing I check with an Ancestry tree, how close is the home person from the ancestor and are they a direct descendant.
00:59:36 Shelley Murphy: I am back,
00:59:52 Valerie Lisk: Thnak you.
00:59:53 Shelley Murphy: russ I have my ear buds in, if you need me
01:00:01 Cousin Russ: Shelley Murphy – Chapter 3 homework –
01:00:43 Valerie Lisk: Thank you Myrt! I could never get my lines to line up correctly.
01:04:14 Danine Cozzens: Love the So What? Questioning.
01:05:49 Shelley Murphy: go for it!
01:07:49 Janine Edmée Hakim: that is the frustration wit only having access to an index the sometime quite on quote ancillary information goldmine in a document
01:08:16 Cousin Russ: Melinda Dosch Culpon – Chapter 3 homework –

01:16:12 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Okay, I have listened to Pat long enough now that duct tape or no duct tape, I can hear you. 🙂

01:16:21 Liberty Evanko: Sorry it is when you add a person like a spouse of child that they added the dates
01:16:28 Cousin Russ: Sheri Beffort Fenley – Chapter 3 homework –

01:17:28 DearMYRTLE: (I am trying to be good!)
01:17:46 Sheryl Whisenhunt: LOL
01:17:51 Liberty Evanko: On FamilySearch it shows the dates when you add a new person. For example, California says State, 1850-present under it.
01:18:29 Melissa Barker: This is great! I am going to be talking about “Where Are The Records?” tonight on Wacky Wednesday with The Archive Lady! Come Join Us!
01:19:50 Valerie Lisk: When you come across chattel entries, are you placing that info anywhere?
01:20:16 Shelley Murphy: Oh Melissa, that’s good, I will be there!
01:21:39 Shelley Murphy: @Geri, University of the Pacific I think
01:23:55 Danine Cozzens: General question about states and territories: Should one “convert” locations to current state or (e.g. Oregon) list the name of what it was when the event occured? (e.g. Oregon Territory)?

01:27:32 Cousin Russ: If you are have genealogy methodogy, technology or research questions, be sure to consult Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 10,000+ groups and pages
01:27:53 Shelley Murphy: so key to make that list!

01:31:33 Cousin Russ: Cheryl Hudson Passey – Chapter 3 homework –

New York Family History Research Guide and Gazetteer01:34:43 Randi Patrick: We are very fortunate in NY since the NYGB created the New York Family History Research Guide & Gazetteer. This Gazetteer includes the whole state. It includes for every locality in NY all of the name changes to include the dates of the changes, a map of the location and all municipalities/jurisdictions involved with that location. And much more. Other jurisdictions also have these types of Gazetteers. FYI.
01:36:46 Cousin Russ: New York Family History Research Guide and Gazetteer;jsessionid=BF79EEACC27BFBF4B67555738C5D375A-n1?product=278&catalogId=2&

01:37:55 Deb Andrew: My family lore was our grandmother was 1/2 Native American. She even said something along that line. Everyone in the family knows that story. After many DNA test and doing a mtDNA test, no Native American.

01:38:25 Cousin Russ: Lisa Hork Gorrell – Chapter 3 homework –


01:42:52 Shelley Murphy: Love PERSI [PERiodical Source Index]

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01:51:04 Sheryl Whisenhunt: This has been another great session!
01:52:01 Isabella Baltar: Thank you for all the excellent resources.
01:52:32 Shelley Murphy: Thank you…see you next month on Chapter 4 with Cheri and I.

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 19 Feb 2018


In which we discuss Reclaim the Records, rootsfinder, 1939 register, virtual speaker contracts, New York research, and NERGC’s 2019 featured speakers.


00:18:50 Bill West: Goood afternoon from balmy Massachusetts!
00:19:36 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Good Morning from snowy California Sierra’s.
00:20:35 Melissa Barker: Hello Dustin! My Federal Holiday Buddy! LOL!
00:21:23 Jacqueline Wilson: Hello from a warm & rainy Chicago!

00:21:37 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to all regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

00:22:38 Cousin Russ: AmericaGen STUDY GROUP – Chapter 2 – 21 Feb 2018, Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central (Chicago), 10 am Mountain (Salt Lake City and Denver), 9am Pacific (Los Angeles). REGISTRATION PAGE
00:22:42 Valerie Eichler Lair: Sorry I couldn’t join the panel today. To-do list is a 100 miles long of things to get done before Wednesday morning. I’m looking forward to the end of this week when ALL is done. 🙂

00:22:49 Cousin Russ: ALBION’S SEED STUDY GROUP Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer s, 1989 (New York: Oxford University Press).7 Mar 2018 Borderlands to the Back Country: The Flight from North Britain 1717-1775 REGISTRATION PAGE:

00:24:36 Hilary Gadsby: Good day everyone. I will miss the first webinar in March as I will be on my way back from RootsTech I may watch some of it as flight doesn’t ;eave until 10:30 from SLC.
00:24:37 Cousin Russ: THE ARCHIVE LADY – 21 Feb 2018 – We are delighted to feature our resident archivist Melissa Barker, who serves as the Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives. A popular genealogical speaker, author and blogger, Melissa is also the FGS Forum Reviews Editor. REGISTRATION URL
00:24:40 Dustin: Go Melissa! Go Archives!
00:25:05 Larry Naukam: Indeed! Go Archives!
00:29:41 Dave Robison: Timeline of Massachusetts history contains this entry: 1786: The Ohio Land Company was formed, resulting in the emigration of many Massachusetts residents to Ohio.
00:29:49 Dave Robison:
00:30:20 Bill West: Lol, Randy, we’ll be having a heat wave here tomorrow with temps in the 50’s.
00:30:27 Dustin: Several families in the nerihboring county were from Massachusetts
00:30:45 Melissa Barker: Randy, it’s suppose to be in the 70’s today here in Tennessee! LOL!

Special Guest Larry Naukam

The In-Depth Genealogist (IDG) is pleased to present their newest in-brief research guide in the research series by writer, Larry Naukam, entitled “An In-Brief Guide to New York Genealogy”. Larry writes the column “Doing it Ourselves” for The In-Depth Genealogist’s digital magazine, Going In-Depth. Larry holds degrees in Geography, Library Science, and Divinity. For more than 30 years he has worked in libraries and information centers, using various techniques and technologies to enhance access to historical materials. As technologies have developed he has used them to make collections more accessible for students and researchers.

00:30:52 Cousin Russ: An In-Brief Guide to New York Genealogy by Larry Naukam
00:34:43 Melissa Barker: Tennessee requires that each county have a county historian.
00:36:03 Jacqueline Wilson: Randy: Chicago is the same temp today & tomorrow. Now 58 instead of 22!

Rochester Genealogical Society

Breaking News The Federation of Genealogical Societies (FGS) awarded the Rochester Genealogical Society with the 2017 Federation of Genealogical Societies Outstanding Society Technology Award. The award was given at the FGS’s national conference in Pittsburgh, PA at the end of August. The Rochester Genealogical Society received this commendation for our use of web resources to educate other genealogists as well as working to archive genealogical records.” Source:

New York Heritage
00:40:14 Cousin Russ:

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00:41:49 Larry Naukam:
Internet Archive
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00:45:45 Dave Robison: I have a cousin in Rochester who moved there from Alabama. It was his father who worked in the DNA lab at Duke University in the early 60s
00:46:19 Randy Seaver: I have ancestors from early New York (Dutch, French, English), the Hudson River Valley (Dutch and German) and upstate (Watertown area and Buffalo area).
New York Archives Conference
00:51:15 Cousin Russ: NYAC New York Archives Conference

00:53:10 Cousin Russ: From Randy Seaver’s GeneaMusings Blog we explored “RootsFinder Delivers Powerful New Tools to Genealogists for FREE” NOTE: This is the rootsfinder video Randy recommends viewing. Congrats to Dallan Quass and Heather Henderson for coming up with an online tree environment with hinting, to-do lists, source indications, and even some reports.

Cyndi Ingles ( said “Yesterday I had 3 different people ask me if I had any webinars recorded. They each told me that they want to be able to share them at their local society meetings. I told them that the recorded webinars aren’t meant to be shown at a group meeting. They are for individuals only, often behind a subscription or membership wall. I said they must read the terms of service and that they *must* get the permission of the webinar host and the speaker. 2 of the ladies said, “Oh, it’s only for my small local group. Under 10 people.”  Source:

01:07:03 Jacqueline Wilson: It is just plain rude!
01:07:54 June Butka: Sometimes people do not make it clear in their request that they are willing to pay. I know a few years back I asked to show a webinar becasue our society lost its speaker due to ilness at the last minute. I did not make it clear the society was willing to pay in my first post in my rush to make the request.
01:08:19 Larry Naukam: I was at a rock concert a few years ago, and the performer stopped and called out the offender
01:10:19 Valerie Lisk: By day 4 my brain is not processing, but when the presenter says “do not record.” I do not record. It’s just good manners.
01:12:16 Randy Seaver: I encourage attendees to take photos of my screen when I do my “Ancestry – Be a Family History Detective” talk at libraries and groups. They also get a two page handout. All of what I share in that talk is public and shared many times. I think that encourages beginners to start family history collecting and research.
01:14:54 Hilary Gadsby: The speakers should be able to decide what they want unless the organiser has made it clear what they want at the start.
01:15:08 Joanne Shackford Parkes: Copying someone’s slides via a camera or video is very different than taking notes at their presentation. Also there are many, many free presentations that folks studying genealogy can use to learn from – these videos, FamilySearch, the first presentations by many societies. It’s just wrong to copy when the speaker asks you not to do that!
01:18:55 Randy Seaver: Of course, you could do an outline of your detail handout to those societies that want it public. A lot of the RootsTech handouts are just outlines.
01:20:05 Larry Naukam: We have a lawyer who is a society member, and he keeps us on the proper path

IMAGE: DearMYRTLE has added this information and citation (optional) for her grandmothers Social Security Death Index entry to make it easier for folks to find Frances.

01:21:07 Cousin Russ: New Option on the Social Security Death Index Record from Ancestry
01:22:34 Randy Seaver: This would be really helpful for millions of John Smiths that don’t give a middle name
01:23:42 Jacqueline Wilson: I have family living in Chariton, Iowa!
01:24:52 Joanne Shackford Parkes: I like the View/Add alternate information fields in Ancestry — didn’t know it had been added to more documents! I do a name study of Shackford’s and am frequently adding alternative info when someone makes a transcription error to make a correction (i.e. that it was Shackelford, Shackleford, or some other variation.). I get it that Russ doesn’t agree on indexes but I do find these notes very helpful.
01:25:06 Valerie Lisk: I correct surnames I know. If it’s indexed Sisk instead of Lisk or Bonkhead instead of Bankhead.
01:25:08 Larry Naukam: I have an uncle for I am sure is deceased -and his children from his 4 marriages do not know when he died.
01:25:40 Randy Seaver: For the SSDI, you have to get the actual SS-5 card to find the maiden name or middle name. The Social Security Applications and Claims database often has those, and the parents names too
01:26:40 Randy Seaver: but not every person in the SSDI has a SSA&C entry
01:28:08 Joanne Shackford Parkes: This alternative information field is just that, alternative information, it doesn’t change the index itself, just might lead someone to the right source if it had been indexed incorrectly or may lead someone to a possible source if the index didn’t have enough information (i.e. maiden name, or misspelling).
01:28:57 Larry Naukam: Last week during my shift at the FHC I had a young user who could not read cursive!
01:29:40 Randy Seaver: When the addition is made to a database like this, the addition/correction should be displayed below the indexed information, not replace it. I think that’s what Ancestry will do.
01:33:07 Donna Burleaud: Perhaps its better to add a ‘comment’ to the side…
01:34:43 June Butka: A good example is of index not making changes unless you can view the image is 3 Valentine Colby born to the same parents. Each name was spelled different was and birth dates were different
01:35:35 June Butka: I agree with Cousin Russ.
01:36:16 Hilary Gadsby: The trouble with most of the indexes is that they are not originals and have required interpretation
01:36:23 Dave Robison: Hey Bruce….Good to see you here!!
01:38:00 Dave Robison: Great conversation and timely for me. I’m doing “Transcription vs. Abstraction vs. Extraction” at a local genealogy club tonight. This will add some additional discussion…

1939 Register

01:39:27 Cousin Russ:
01:40:55 Larry Naukam: All genealogists come upon GIGO -garbage in, gospel out
01:43:27 June Butka: The blog I’m currently working on is a good example of why it is best to look at the original, not an index. 3 valentine Colby’s. Census has Colby/Colbey/Colley or Volintin/Valllentin/ Valentine/Voltin are different spellings and people.

01:44:44 Cousin Russ: New England Regional Genealogical Conference Announces 2019 Keynotes
01:46:16 June Butka: Looking forward to NERGC. Great link up.
01:46:24 Cousin Russ: *WEBINARS: Pay what you want* by DearMYRTLE.

01:46:49 Cousin Russ: WHAT TO EXPECT – RootsTech’s Innovation Showcase
01:48:41 Valerie Eichler Lair: I’d like to invite anyone who is not a member of APG, but you are taking clients and doing DNA research for them…please attend tonight’s APG webinar. I am the Moderator. Blaine Bettinger and Karen Stanbary are the speakers about DNA Client Expectations and Contracts. Register at  🙂
01:50:03 Randy Seaver: will the Media Hub be open on Wednesday night in Expo Hall? [YES]
01:50:21 MarciaPhilbrick: For those Not going to RootsTech — follow Twitter #notatrootstech
01:50:54 Cousin Russ: The Conversation continues —
01:53:40 Cousin Russ: ATTN: Genealogy Content Providers The monthly “Book of Me” content prompts will be posted by Julie Goucher starting 1 January 2018.

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01:56:14 Cousin Russ: The Conversation continues —


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MyHeritage: Smart “stitching” and search for New York arrivals 1820-1957

90 million records from the Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists collection bring to light the stories of millions of immigrations, arrivals and visits to America spanning 138 years

Ellis Island & Other New York Passenger Lists

TEL AVIV, Israel & LEHI, Utah, November 2, 2017 – MyHeritage, the leading international family history and DNA company, announced today the addition of the Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957 collection to SuperSearch™, the company’s global search engine containing more than 8.25 billion historical records. The records are of major significance for anyone looking to trace their immigrant ancestors’ arrival in America, and include names, dates, countries of origin, addresses of family members and friends, occupations, and physical descriptions, among many other details.

The passenger manifests are an unparalleled source of information spanning key years of immigration from all over the world, including those entering the United States as refugees during the First and Second World Wars. The records include millions of entries via Ellis Island, which opened its doors on January 1, 1892. The first 72 years of the collection pre-date Ellis Island; Prior to the establishment of Ellis Island, the primary immigration station in New York City was Castle Garden, which opened in 1855, and before then, immigrants were received at several piers across the city. Towards the end of the time frame, in the 1940s and 1950s, advancements in transportation methods are noticeable as records begin to include those who arrived via airplane to various airports in and around the city. The plethora of information in the records is expected to invigorate family histories, adding previously unknown stories of how family members uprooted their lives, and replanted them in the United States.

As of 1897, immigration officials began asking those entering the United States for the name and address of the relative or friend whom they are joining in the USA, and in 1907 they began asking for the name and address of their closest relative or friend in their home country. The responses to these supplemental questions, that have been filled in the passenger manifests, have now been indexed by MyHeritage for the very first time, yielding an additional 26.6 million names in the Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists collection on MyHeritage. These passenger manifests have been digitized by other organizations in the past, but the answers to these vital supplemental questions have never been indexed — until now. Furthermore, many of the passenger manifests span two pages, and a common omission for genealogists has been to locate the first page and miss the existence of the second. MyHeritage has solved this problem for the first time by stitching the double pages into single document images, ensuring that users do not miss information again.

Many historical figures of interest are found among these records, including Albert Einstein (who arrived in the US on October 17, 1933), former U.S. Secretary of State Madeline Albright (arrived November 11, 1948) and Charlie Chaplin (arrived October 1912). Composer and songwriter Irving Berlin who moved to the U.S. in 1903, appears on several manifests arriving from different places in Europe.

Users with family trees on MyHeritage will immediately benefit from Record Matching technology that automatically reveals new information about their ancestors who appear in these records.

“The Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957 collection is a major asset on MyHeritage is a major asset for family history enthusiasts,” said Russ Wilding, Chief Content Officer at MyHeritage. “When we digitized this collection we employed out-of-the-box thinking to cover important aspects that were overlooked by others in the past. This makes this collection on MyHeritage the most complete and useful of its kind.”

MyHeritage is working to add additional immigration records into the collection from other port cities from around the United States, as well as several important Canadian border crossings, in the near future.

Searching the Ellis Island and Other New York Passenger Lists collection is free. A subscription is required to view records and scanned images and to access Record Matches.

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