ARCHIVED: AmericanGen Study Group – Chapter 21: Abstracting Probate & Land Records

AmericaGen Study Group

NOTE: Panelist Lisa Gorrell, CG has wisely suggested we include the link to this upcoming related webinar.

The next Board for Certification of Genealogists (BCG) free webinar in conjunction with Legacy Family Tree! LaBrenda Garrett-Nelson, JD, CG®, CGL℠, will present “Transcribing Documents: There is More than Meets the Eye!” at 8 p.m. Eastern time, 16 April 2019. To accommodate those who might have schedule conflicts, the webinar can be accessed at no charge for a week after the broadcast. BCG receives a commission if you register using our affiliate link here: https://familytreewebinars.com/intermediate_page.php?diply_nm=BCG

The AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 21 “Abstracting Probate and Land Records” in Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.) https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

Please note all hyperlinks are non-affiliate links.

Val Greenwoods book

HOMEWORK
Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits.

DearMYRTLE’s AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 21 Combined Homework http://bit.ly/2ux5Wq1

EMBEDDED VIDEO

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09:44:01 From Marceline Beem to All panelists : https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G98M-F9NL?i=539&cat=330546
09:44:10 From Marceline Beem to All panelists : that’s the link to the second page of the deed


10:24:32 From Cousin Russ : TRANSCRIPT by Jacob Boerema http://www.jacobboerema.nl/en/Freeware.htm 

10:36:47 From Cousin Russ : DeedMapper to plat this deed: http://www.directlinesoftware.com/deedmapper_42
10:57:11 From Cousin Russ : Transcription forms: http://www.warrenweb.info/?p=3162 [Land Record Abstract]
10:59:09 From Molly McKinley : I have lots of copies of probate records, some with 40 or so pages! I can see I have lots of work ahead…lol
11:00:53 From Molly McKinley : I like the chart. It would help you focus on your direct line.
11:02:44 From Molly McKinley : Great idea Russ
11:06:19 From Molly McKinley : I like to check out those meets and bounds neighbors just in case they are kin.
11:07:49 From Robbin Smith : Thank you all
11:08:37 From Robbin Smith : Florida is sea level.
11:08:58 From Molly McKinley : It is too hot here in the summer
11:09:57 From Robbin Smith : LOL [NOTE from DearMYRTLE: I simply LOVED living in Florida – Bradenton to be exact. On the Gulf Coast. Mr. Myrt doesn’t like the heat and humidity though.]
11:10:12 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : Thank you all. GREAT application.


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ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 18

AmericaGen Study Group

Feedback from the AmericaGen Study Group includes this comment from Molly McKinley “After the last lesson, I was able to find my great grandmother’s probate for her parents who died really young. It had the guardian’s payments for her keep, etc. And I also found my great-great grandfather’s probate. They were all in a different town, in the same county as they died. I was so happy to find that. Thanks for all the great conversation last time.”

The AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 18 – Intestate Records & Probate” from Val Greenwood’s The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Company.) https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

Please note all hyperlinks are non-affiliate links.

Val Greenwoods book

HOMEWORK
Note: All panelists were invited ro read the chapter and then write about how that chapter relates to their personal research habits.

DearMYRTLE’s AmericaGen Study Group – Chapter 18 Combined Homework: http://bit.ly/AmericaGen18

EMBEDDED VIDEO

SELECTED TEXT

09:55:34 From Cary Bright : Molly McKinley what a wonderful find! Congrats
09:56:30 From Marceline Beem : Molly, are you keeping warm? We have morning temps in the 30s in north Florida!

ethnicity
DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed, sexual orientation or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

10:03:00 From Cousin Russ : When posting in the “Zoom Webinar Chat” , change the “TO” portion to read “ALL PANELISTS AND ATTENDEES.” By default it reads “all panelists.”
10:03:40 From Cousin Russ : The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.). This week we’re discussing Chapter 18
10:07:43 From Molly McKinley : It as in the low 40’s here. I have a wonderful heater…lol
10:10:30 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : I think the publication notice is a necessary part of the probate.
10:11:12 From Marceline Beem : I’m going to be in the Orlando area tomorrow, Molly. I was hoping it would be warmer than that!
10:12:31 From DearMYRTLE . : I think the publication notice is a necessary part of the probate to ensure the Administrator didn’t overlook an heir.
10:15:21 From DearMYRTLE . : I like the word INFER.
10:26:10 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Notice was given to make sure there are no other heirs or debts to creditors
10:30:19 From Cousin Russ : From DearMYRTLE — You are lucky the land was to be “kept for her children.” By law in this time period, her husband may have had authority to use the property as he wished simply because they were married.

10:37:16 From Marceline Beem : $30,000 in 1840 is the equivalent of $917,000 in today’s dollars
10:40:11 From Marceline Beem : The site used to calculate the current value is http://www.wolframalpha.com
10:40:46 From Marceline Beem : I put in $30000 1840 and it calculated the equivalent in today’s dollars
10:44:51 From DearMYRTLE . : . Thank-you, Marceline!

10:45:37 From Molly McKinley : By the time they settled my gggrandfather’s probate, his wife had died. The heirs each got less than $50 each. It took almost 10 years!
10:45:59 From Rebecca Williams : I had an ancestor whose probate lasted for years because they were trying to find one of the heirs. They found him in Nebraska and the grandfather died in Ohio.
10:46:09 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : Russ we have comments.
10:47:48 From Lisa Gorrell : I have an administration record where the whereabouts of several of the sons was unknown. They went ahead with it without those heirs.
10:48:32 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : In Louisiana – Civil Law – probate is called “sucession”
10:49:09 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : And “Civil Law” states are different from “Common Law” states.
10:50:23 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : cannot cancel spotlight video today either RUss.
10:50:33 From DearMYRTLE . : And “Civil Law” states are different from “Common Law” states.

10:51:11 From Cousin Russ : Elizabeth Shown Mills, “Understanding Courthouse Records: Originals vs. Duplicate Originals,” blog post, QuickTips: The Blog @ Evidence Explained (https://www.evidenceexplained.com/quicktips/understanding-courthouse-records-originals-vs-duplicate-originals : 24 January 2019).

11:00:56 From DearMYRTLE . : https://www.geneamusings.com/2019/01/best-of-genea-blogs-20-to-26-january.html
11:01:36 From Valerie Lisk : I saw that on a Legacy Family Tree Webinar. https://familytreewebinars.com/
11:02:51 From Cary Bright : Yes Valerie – Legacy Family Tree Webinar about Exhaustive Research and GPS just done in the last week.
11:03:20 From Valerie Lisk : That’s it Cary!
11:03:48 From Lisa Gorrell : Thanks everyone!!


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ISBGFH: Mini-Institute Aug 2018, Philadelphia

ISBGFHResearching Family in the British Isles

The Historical Society of Pennsylvania (HSP) has partnered with the International Society for British Genealogy and Family History (ISBGFH) to conduct a four day program of researching family in the British Isles. ISBGFH conducts the British Institute held annually in Salt Lake City to provide week-long education by well-known genealogists on the British Isles. From 13-16 August 2018, the ISBGFH has arranged for several presenters to provide an overview of researching British Isles topics at the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. These presentations will explore DNA, Scotland, Ireland and England research. London based genetic genealogist Dr. Maurice Gleeson, MB, will present on DNA and Irish research, Christine Woodcock, from Genealogy Tours of Scotland, will discuss Scottish research, and Frank Southcott, President, ISBGFH, will explore the English records.

The HSP program is designed to be attended either on a given day and topic or in its entirety. It is an in-depth overview of British Isles research and enhances attendance for those who may desire to attend the British Institute where morning instruction and afternoon independent research are conducted in the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City on a country topic. More information about the British Institute is available HERE

The HSP curriculum for each day involves 4 presentations of one hour and fifteen minutes each. Monday, 13 August 2018, Dr Gleeson, MB, will explore advances made in DNA and how it can be applied to your British Isles research. Christine Woodcock will discuss the uniqueness of Scottish research on Tuesday, 14 August 2018. Dr. Gleeson will return on Wednesday, 15 August 2018, to present on the ever increasing resources available on Irish research, and Thursday, 16 August 2018, Frank Southcott, will examine English genealogical resources.

The cost of the four day program will be $299. Individual program days are available for $99 per day. Limited consultation slots will be available on DNA, Scotland and Ireland during the program for $125 hour.
Registration:
http://hsp.org/calendar/researching-family-british-isles


DNA Instructor: Dr Maurice GleesonMaurice Gleeson

  • An introduction to DNA testing for Genealogy
    This introductory talk will explain the basics of DNA testing, the three main types of test, how each one can be applied in practice (with examples), and which one is best for you to specifically address your genealogical conundrums.
  • Using Y-DNA to research your surname of choice
    Anyone can research any particular surname (i.e. family name) that they want – you just need to find the right cousin to test. Y-DNA is eminently suited to surname research because it follows the same path as hereditary surnames i.e. back along the father father father line. This talk explores surname DNA studies and what they can reveal about your surname
  • Applying autosomal DNA to your family history research – the theory
    The most popular of the DNA tests is the autosomal test. This can be used to research all of your ancestral lines (as opposed to Y-DNA and mitochondrial DNA which only help you explore a single ancestral line each). This talk explores the basic science behind autosomal DNA testing, the secrets to successfully applying it, and how it can be combined with other tests and genealogy to help answer specific genealogical questions.
  • Applying autosomal DNA to your family history research – the practice
    This is a more in-depth look at the use of autosomal DNA, including a step-by-step approach to tackling your matches, the concept of triangulation, the use of third party tools, and how techniques used to help adoptees trace their birth family can also help us to break thru our genealogical Brick Walls.

Scottish Genealogy Instructor Christine WoodcockChristine Woodcock

  • In Search of Your Scottish Ancestors: Search Your Roots; Discover Your Heritage
    While many people want to know more about their Scottish heritage, they don’t know where to begin. Fortunately, researching our Scottish ancestors is a fairly easy task. Knowing where to look is usually where we get tied up. This presentation will get you started in researching your Scottish ancestry as well as how to make the most of your research. Topics Include: starting your search, reaching out to others, ScotlandsPeople website, Scottish naming patterns, marriages and family history societies.
  • Breaking Through Brick Walls in Scottish Research
    Scottish documents contain a wealth of information and can make researching so much easier when you really take a look at what the documents are telling you. It becomes important to really pay attention to the key words on the documents so that you know what records you need to look at next in order to break through brick walls and learn as much as you can about your Scottish ancestors. In this presentation we will look at the key words on the documents that may help break down the brick wall. Then we will look at where those records exist and how you can access them.
  • Online and Offline Databases for Scottish Genealogy Research
    There comes a time when you have done all of the online researching you can do using the standard databases. In this presentation you will learn of the databases that aren’t as well know but that can assist in breaking through your brick walls. These include: websites for researching Scottish occupations, websites specific to the genealogy of regions where your ancestors might have lived, emigration databases, military databases, witchcraft databases, medieval ancestry, and British newspapers.
  • Military Men, Covenanters and Jacobites: Historic Events That Led to Mass Migration
    This session will help you understand the importance of the events in Scottish history that led to a large number of Scots leaving their homeland for life in the Americas. In order to be successful researching in the Scottish records, we need to know where in Scotland our ancestors originated. Bridging the gap between finding them in the North American records (birth, marriage, death and census records) and being able to locate them in the Scottish records may seem like a daunting task. However, it is often less of a challenge and more of a reward if you understand what brought them here in the first place. Some clues can be taken from the major historic events in Scottish history that led to Scots leaving their homeland.

Irish Research Instructor Dr Maurice Gleeson

Maurice Gleeson

 

  • Tracing Your Ancestors Back to Ireland
    For many Irish-Americans, all they know is their ancestor “came from Ireland” but they have no further information than that. This talk gives an overview of the various techniques & records available in the US (and elsewhere) that can be used to help trace your ancestor back to where they came from in Ireland. These include shipping records, emigration records, but also surname dictionaries and distribution maps.
  • Irish Church and Civil Registration Records
    In the last year or so, many of the civil registration records are coming online. Most of these are now available for free via http://www.irishgenealogy.ie and digital images of the original record can be downloaded. Civil registration started in 1864 for most records. Prior to this, one has to rely on church records for tracing further back and these can be very helpful indeed or not at all – coverage is patchy and most records peter out around 1800-1830. However, all of Ireland is covered by two websites and most of this research can be done from the comfort of your own home.
  • Census, Census Substitutes, and Land Records
    Census records survive for only 1901 and 1911, with some scraps from other years. Griffith’s Valuation can be very helpful as a mid-1800 census substitute but it is the Cancelled or Revised Valuation Books that provide a wealth of information that allow tracing relatives forward and backward from the present day to the 1850s. We will also look at the Tithe Applotment books and the Registry of Deeds.
  • Less Common Irish Genealogical Records
    This talk explores the wealth of genealogical material to be found in newspapers, cemeteries, probate, petty session court records, & dog licenses. We will also explore some of the resources that everyone should be using as a routine part of their ongoing Irish research.

English Research Instructor Frank Southcott
Frank Southcott

  • Researching Your Family in England: Census and National Registration
    A useful England census has been conducted every 10 years since 1841 and is accessible through 1911. It is the primary resource to establish families in England during that period. England also conducted a national registration in 1939 as an ancillary of WWII. Both of these resources will be explored during this session.
  • Researching Your Family in England: Civil Registration
    Civil registration of birth, marriages and deaths commenced on 1 July 1837. Explore the records and idiosyncrasies of the registration process in England and how to obtain the information for your family.
  • Researching Your Family in England: Wills and Church Records
    Wills survive from early times. Baptisms, marriages and burials survive in a great number of parishes from the mid-1500’s. This session will explore the available probate and church records and the wealth of information that can be derived.
  • Researching English Family at the Historical Society of Pennsylvania
    Many people are surprised at the vast collection of British Isles records available at the Historical Society of Pennsylvania library. Explore the records and resources available for British Isles family research at HSP with Daniel Rolph, PhD, Historian and Head of Reference Services.

Registration:
http://hsp.org/calendar/researching-family-british-isle

AmericaGen Study Group: Call for Panel Participants

UPDATE: The panelists have been selected. Note revised schedule below.

DearMYRTLE’s upcoming AmericaGen STUDY GROUP will feature panelists working to accomplish tasks normally completed by Ol’ Myrt here. What does this mean? We will be studying Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) As such we need a dedicated group of motivated panel participants willing to read a chapter and submit homework in advance of each of our semi-monthly study group sessions. In addition panelists will rotate working in small groups collating homework into a shared .PDF file, inserting comments and moderating the chapter discussion much as DearMYRTLE has done in the past.

SYLLABUS
Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback https://www.amazon.com/Researchers-Guide-American-Genealogy-4th/dp/0806320664

WHEN
Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central (Chicago), 10 am Mountain (Salt Lake City and Denver), 9am Pacific (Los Angeles)

SCHEDULE

Wednesday, June 27, 2018 Chapter 5 Libraries and the National Archives NARA
Wednesday, July 11, 2018 Chapter 6 Reference Works
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 Chapter 7 Organizing and Evaluating Your Research Findings
Wednesday, August 15, 2018 Chapter 8 Successful Correspondence
Wednesday, August 29, 2018 Chapter 9 Computer Technology and Family History
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Wednesday, September 26, 2018 Chapter 10 Family History on the Internet
Wednesday, October 17, 2018 Chapter 11 Family History: Going Beyond Genealogy
Wednesday, October 31, 2018 Chapter 12 Compiled Sources & Newspapers
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 Chapter 13 Vital Records
Wednesday, November 28, 2018 Chapter 14 Census Returns
Wednesday, December 12, 2018 Chapter 15 Using Census Records in Your Research
Wednesday, January 9, 2019 Chapter 16 Understanding Probate Records & Legal Terminology
Wednesday, January 23, 2019 Chapter 17 What About Wills?
Wednesday, February 13, 2019 Chapter 18 The Intestate, Miscellaneous Probate Records and Guardianships
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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 Chapter 19 Local Land Records
Wednesday, March 27, 2019 Chapter 20 Abstracting Probate and Land Records
Wednesday, April 10, 2019 Chapter 21 Abstracting Probate and Land Records
Wednesday, April 24, 2019 Chapter 22 Court Records and Family History
Wednesday, May 15, 2019 Chapter 23 Property Rights of Women as a Consideration
Wednesday, May 22, 2019 Chapter 24 Church Records and Family History
Wednesday, June 12, 2019 Chapter 25 Immigrant Origins: American Finding Aids
Wednesday, June 26, 2019 Chapter 26 Military Records: Colonial Wars and the American Revolution
Wednesday, July 10, 2019 Chapter 27 Military Records: After the Revolution
Wednesday, July 31, 2019 Chapter 28 Cemetery and Burial Records


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