ARCHIVED: WACKY Wednesday 2 BIG Questions

So what are the questions we will tackle in this webinar?

  1. Need some input! I’m one of many getting irritated with Ancestry. What other options are there, other than Family Search, that allow the same type of actions?
  2. I’m aggravated with my Legacy Family Tree software. I downloaded my Ancestry Member Tree, but there are no images of documents.



19:11:24 From Susan Bleimehl  One or many places to go would be go through the relevant topics in Cyndi’s List or Linkpendium or the Ancestor’s Hunt newspaper site. You can spend lots of time doing that. Also, I don’t think anyone’s tree is clean or perfect. I like to spend some time cleaning up my databases.
19:12:29 From Deb Andrew : Roots Finder and American Ancestors are other places. I work on my photos, cleaning them up and refining those skills.

19:14:50 From Deb Andrew : There are so many webinars and YouTube Videos that can be watched to do more educational training, when a site is not functioning correctly.

19:16:57 From JoAnn Lawrence : I’ve joined Genealogy Facebook groups. They are great.
19:18:27 From Cousin Russ : Katherine R. Willson’s Genealogy on Facebook listing of over 12,300+ groups and pages:

19:25:25 From Linda Jordan : I’m a member of a Facebook group that doesn’t want duplicate posts on a topic. They want you to search their site 1st. They will block you from posting for a certain time period.
19:25:40 From Shelley Murphy : I like it when an Admin sends a welcome – are the welcome’s set up and sent automatically. [Note: Welcomes are not sent individually.]
19:26:21 From Deb Andrew : If you watch, you can tell who is always posting, what is posted, who to make your post more effective and relevant to a thread.
19:29:50 From Deb Andrew : My Heritage has just started forwarding the messages to your e-mail like Ancestry does with their message system. 
19:34:20 From Shelley Murphy :  Legacy webinars at
19:37:30 From Susan Bleimehl : Podcasts are fun and interesting.
19:38:06 From Deb Andrew : Evidence Explained is another good site to learn on citing. and on Facebook at
19:41:38 From Shelley Murphy : That’s where I was a few months ago, Rensselaer.
19:42:59 From Deb Andrew : I just sent someone to Joy Flips for the photos.
19:43:03 From Cousin Russ :
19:45:37 From Shelley Murphy : did you save your chart?
19:45:47 From Deb Andrew : I’ve learned so much to just attending your webinars and going to the links that are suggested and looking at the books recommended.
19:46:30 From Deb Andrew : Genealogy Gems is another good site.
19:48:28 From Deb Andrew : Legacy Family Tree has a photo re-linker.
19:52:08 From Deb Andrew : When Legacy 10 is released it will sync with My Heritage.
19:56:27 From Deb Andrew : Legacy has hints for FamilySearch, My Hertiage and Find My Past.
20:00:01 From Susan Bleimehl : Joining your local genealogy society is a good place to find other people who use your chosen software. Getting together with these folks is a good way to explore and learn to use all of the features of your software. Special Interest Groups (SIGs) are great fun to attend.
20:00:17 From Shelley Murphy : Roots Trust I have not heard of – going to look it up
20:00:54 From Shelley Murphy : Also, let’s get a Genealogy Buddy!
20:01:10 From Shelley Murphy : eastman

20:02:09 From Cousin Russ :
20:04:48 From Shelley Murphy : RootsMagic for me.
20:06:45 From Deb Andrew : The have a trial version.
20:08:02 From Shelley Murphy : Thank you, enjoyed it…
20:08:17 From Cindy Hilomen : thank you

20:40:45 From Cousin Russ : The home of my (female) DAR person —
20:45:53 From DearMYRTLE : Bernice Bennett
20:49:38 From DearMYRTLE : Coming to the Table

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20:52:38 From DearMYRTLE : Black ProGen

20:56:03 From DearMYRTLE : BlackProGen LIVE: Ep 60: Indian in My Family: DNA, Identity, and the Making of Africans in America

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Having Your Own Database

Since there is no Mondays with Myrt until next week, let’s assist our new DearMYRTLE Facebook Group member Linda who writes:

“Primarily, my first question is there some way I can save all my data from I can no longer afford it. If I have to pay for 1 more subscription, to somehow salvage it, I will do that. Then I would like to learn about all the free sites…”


To meet your requirements, Ol’ Myrt here recommends RootsMagic desktop software. It’s one of two desktop computer programs that can download to your computer everything from your Ancestry Member Tree including attached photos and documents. However, in my tests, RootsMagic is able to do TreeShare more reliably than the other program. The RootsMagic program has a free version and a $29.95 upgrade version and installs on both PC and Mac computers. This is a one time charge, not annual, and permits you to work with multiple family trees like adopted, bloodline, or disproved. I have nine databases on my computer right now – several because I am not yet sure if the family I’m working on belongs in my family tree.

This video explains how to download all data and attached images from an Ancestry Member Tree to a new RootsMagic database.

As with any program, eventually enhancements may be made to the software that might require an upgrade of about $19, but that has happened only every few years or so in my experience.

Don’t worry, Ancestry isn’t planning to get rid of your tree. You just won’t be able to get to the database images you’ve attached to each ancestor until you reactivate your Ancestry account. I’d recommend finding a time dedicated to this transfer process. Then activate your Ancestry account for the minimum one month time period and go for it.

As for free genealogy websites, a good place to begin is with a free account at

The product manager for FamilySearch “search” and “hints” advises using the FamilySearch Catalog, since only about 30% of the site’s images are browsable or indexed. Using the catalog you’ll spend most of your time looking for records created in the place where your ancestors once lived. And you won’t know if those ancestors are mentioned in the record set until you look. Some images must be viewed at your local Family History Center, owing to stipulations by the church, courthouse, archive or library that holds the original documents.

Find a local Family History Center here:

The following short 8-minute video features using the FamilySearch Catalog to locate the other 70% of digital images not yet browsable or indexed, demonstrated by Robert Kerher, the FamilySearch product manager I mentioned earlier. Nothing better than getting it directly from the source.

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Keep me posted on your progress. Cousin Russ and I would be more than happy to walk you through the steps for downloading your Ancestry Member Tree to a new RootsMagic database on your computer. As you may know, we are both out of town on family business at the moment.

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 29 Jan 2018


Tune in to the archived version of our latest webinar – Mondays with Myrt held 29 Jan 2018. You’ll find selected chat dialog and the links we mention below this embedded video.

We looked at Pat Kuhn’s ancestor’s “young men’s” WWII draft card indexed at Ancestry pointing to the image on Fold3, and caution all to watch what information gets shared during a Family Tree Maker sync or RootsMagic share option.Many explained they manually update their personal database with images from hints on various websites. That way transcriptions are most accurate, and citations can be custom crafted.

DearMYRTLE is concerned when people use the FamilySearch prompt with possible names for temple work. These are prompts for research to ensure the name and identifying info is truly an ancestor. We find out what Elizabeth Shown Mills has to say about the necessity of citing a repository – there is one instance where it is essential.

Moving on, we tackled the various RootsTech passes (different days/prices) and that it’s best to download the handouts via computer so you can save the file with a recognizable name. Dropbox would make these available to any of your devices. One may take the TRAX train from the airport if your hotel does not have a shuttle. See the embedded map below.

Find out about hashtags, #GenChat, and Tweet Deck for what Cheri Passey calls “The fastest hour in genealogy!”


Upcoming Events

AmericaGen STUDY GROUP – Chapter 1
31 Jan 2018 – Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central (Chicago), 10 am Mountain (Salt Lake City and Denver), 9am Pacific (Los Angeles)

Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback
Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central (Chicago), 10 am Mountain (Salt Lake City and Denver), 9am Pacific (Los Angeles)

Albion’s Seed Study Group
Syllabus – Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer, 1989 (New York: Oxford University Press). Paperback available from

Wednesday, 31 Jan 2018 – 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles)
The South of England to Virginia: Distressed Cavaliers and Indentured Servants 1642-75
Registration link for all sessions:

REGISTER for DearMYRTLE’s February Webinars

Plusword – A game show hosted by Sir Michael Daniels. Come support the home team as we meet two other teams in a match of wits. This is a “view and comment” only link. No need to register. Starts at 10pm Eastern US (New York) Friday, 9 Feb 2018.


RootsTech (Genealogy & technology conference) where DearMYRTLE is serving as an official RT Ambassador.
28 Feb through 3 March 2018 – at the Salt Palace in downtown Salt Lake City, Utah.
Registration link:

Selected Chat Comments

00:36:32 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Good Morning from California.
00:36:57 Bill West: Good morning from a gloomy south of Boston
00:37:18 Pam Helm: Good Morning
00:39:47 Lisa Gorrell: Good morning, everyone!
00:41:20 JohnLaws: Hi from a cold but bright North Berwick

Regarding Pat Kuhn’s U.S. WWII Draft Cards Young Men, 1940-1947 research at Ancestry. (Screen shot below is the search result for Pat’s ancestors George Charles O’Donnell, born 1922.)

George Charles O'Donnell's WWII Draft Card

00:44:31 Deb Andrew: She only needs the Fold3 subscription, doesn’t have to upgrade the Ancestry account.
00:51:41 Betty-Lu Burton: The age is wrong. The card says 19 Ancestry says 20
00:54:04 Bill West: This is why I’m leery of syncing my Ancestry & RootsMagic trees. I download all records to my HD the old fashioned way and enter all data from the image,itself, not the transcription.
00:56:01 Lisa Gorrell: Be careful. This collection is not complete. Keep checking back. I did not find my two grandfathers’ cards. But I do have them from NARA.
00:57:04 June Butka: I found that names were added to my family Search tree that I didn’t add. I also found I could not add a second wife if the other wife’s name is already there.
00:58:09 RandySeaver: This is why I don’t attach records from Ancestry to my RootsMagic tree, and create my own source citatyions.
00:58:45 HilaryGadsby: Look at what the dataset covers I am looking for someone born in Illinois but they are not online yet.
00:59:39 Marian Koalski: I’m opinionated too, Randy. And Ancestry’s citations don’t have the needed info to re-find the record, even if you overlook their whimsical formatting
01:00:24 June Butka: It was a record hint I was trying to add. I can add them independently.

FamilySearch Temple Prompts

01:00:25 Betty-Lu Burton: FamilySearch will split large databases into smaller groups so they can start to get the information out sooner. Los Angeles County Death records are in at least 4 groups and we are working on reviewing the 3 and 4 groups. Still have a long way to go
01:00:46 HilaryGadsby: I have added second wife at Family Search
RootsMagic01:06:47 RandySeaver: duplicate Facts occur in RootsMagic when you merge a person with another

Cousin Russ01:08:35 Cousin Russ: Cousin Russ’ YouTube Channel:
01:08:41 Cousin Russ: Cousin Russ’ A Worthington Weblog:

DearMYRTLE’s OLD Blog:
DearMYRTLE’s NEW Blog Myrt’s Musings
01:09:26 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE’s YouTube Channel:
01:09:47 June Butka: That is useful. I need to get comfortable with the learning curve to where the Zoom Playbacks are with links.
01:10:01 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE’s Genealogy Community on Google+ Plus:
01:10:12 Cousin Russ: *HANGOUTS: Pay what you want* by DearMYRTLE.
01:10:37 Cousin Russ: DearMYRTLE’s Facebook Group:

01:11:04 Cousin Russ: GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week:
01:12:24 RandySeaver: My research/opinion/news/stuff blog is
01:14:38 HilaryGadsby: Can you share a calendar with just a few people?
01:16:12 RandySeaver: Way back when, I entered only libraries and public repositories because that’s where I found books or records. The repositories I entered 15 years ago are still in my source records.
01:16:28 Betty-Lu Burton: If it is on line then it has a URL and not a repository. Is not a repository a brick and morter building?
01:18:26 HilaryGadsby: Putting something online publishes it but what is published may only be an image not the original. What you cite depends upon what you see.
01:21:04 RandySeaver: Launa – I would state that in the repository field, and/or in the source comment field in RootsMagic

Elizabeth Shown Mill’s writes “Repositories need to be named when we have visited a facility to use an unpublished record that does not exist anywhere else except that facility.”

01:24:06 June Butka: The box wasn’t checked off above the previous link that said not shareable.
01:26:34 Marian Koalski: I think entering the repository is useful to everyone in the case of a rare book, too.
01:28:13 Cousin Russ: Linda – The Blog has a search field

01:28:22 Cousin Russ:
01:28:50 Cheri Passey: Dave, can’t wait to meet you in person at RootsTech!
01:30:11 Lisa Gorrell: This will be my first time at RootsTech. Couldn’t believe how many classes there are!
01:31:14 RandySeaver: It took almost an hour last night to download the Wednesday handouts from
01:31:21 Cheri Passey: So glad you will be there, Lisa!
01:31:55 RandySeaver: I’m going to download each day on different nights – it’s boring and requires attention to detail
01:32:47 Yvonne Demoskoff: Some of the labs are already filled up; darn.
01:33:38 Betty-Lu Burton: They still do not have the broadcast classes listed yet
01:34:38 RandySeaver: Betty-Lu – they usually announce them a week or so before it starts. You can sometimes suss it out by the Hall it uses. I think Hall C.
01:35:01 Betty-Lu Burton: Thanks Randy

RootsTech Smartphone App
01:37:26 Cousin Russ: 7 Ways the Mobile App Will Enhance Your RootsTech Experience [NOTE: The RootsTech mobile app, sponsored by WordPress, is now available for download from the App Store and the Google Play Store. ]
01:37:46 Yvonne Demoskoff: On the app, when I click to view Exhibit Hall in “Maps”, it closes the app; does anyone have this problem, too?
01:38:33 HilaryGadsby: Not tried it yet Yvonne
01:39:16 Yvonne Demoskoff: Oh ok, Hilary
01:39:34 RandySeaver: When I save the handout, I edit the file name for speaker name and title of the talk. Example: “Thomas Macentee – Using pinterest”
01:39:44 RandySeaver: It was the same thing as last year.
01:40:02 HilaryGadsby: Yvonne I will try after the webinar
01:41:40 Yvonne Demoskoff: Thanks, Hilary!
01:42:16 Dawn Carlile: That is what I did last year. I copy the title off the screen.

[NOTE:Here’s a Google Map of downtown Salt Lake City. Br sure to look for Harmon’s, our local grocery store with the great deli-department we mentioned during this show.]

01:43:53 HilaryGadsby: Going to Blue Lemon for Commonwealth Dinner this year
01:45:08 Yvonne Demoskoff: The Holiday Inn Express is across the street from the south entrance to the Salt Palace; very convenient
01:45:22 Dawn Carlile: Blue Iguana is excellent for Mexican food and the Siegried’s Deli is great.
01:46:29 Dawn Carlile: And they have a food court with lots of options at City Creek.
01:47:53 Dawn Carlile: If you need exercise you can walk to Harmon’s where they have a wonderful salad bar and you can eat upstairs or take it with you.
01:49:12 Yvonne Demoskoff: My husband and I bought a few food items from Harmon’s to bring back to our room at the hotel.
01:50:17 Linda Stufflebean: Hope the GeneaBloggers meet for lunch again at the Blue Lemon. [Yes, we will meet on Tuesday for lunch at 1pm.]
01:50:39 Cheri Passey: Me too. Linda!
01:51:05 HilaryGadsby: I need to check how to get from airport to The Radisson

01:51:21 Cousin Russ: One county’s switch to unalterable .PDF-A from microfilm –

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01:51:34 Lisa Gorrell: Hilary, you can ride the TRAX. [ This is the link to the Trax website: ]
01:51:44 Lisa Gorrell: I’m at the Radisson, too.
01:52:38 RandySeaver: We use the Express Shuttle service to/from SLC airport – only $10 per person
01:53:14 HilaryGadsby: When do you arrive?

01:53:54 Cousin Russ: #genchat
01:54:31 Cheri Passey: #genchat is so much fun! I call it the fastest hour in genealogy! I learn something new every time!
01:55:31 HilaryGadsby: I like Genchat but wrong time for me in the UK participate when I remember if I can

01:57:09 HilaryGadsby: I have used tweetdeck in the past
01:59:27 Cheri Passey: I use . One you enter the hashtag and join the group, it automatically puts it in for you.

02:00:23 RandySeaver: I’ve used Tweetchat and you get only the #genchat items in last first order. You can upload your message too.
02:00:41 Cheri Passey: Anna, that just means it will tweet into the chat with your account. It doesn’t produce tweets for you, it just shares what you tweet into the group.
02:03:15 AnnaMatthews: Thank you, Cheri. That’s good to know because I wanted to check it out.
02:03:42 Cousin Russ: The Legal Genealogist Judy Russell discusses obtaining DNA from a deceased relative.

02:08:19 HilaryGadsby: I might make it to Game Night in February
02:09:25 HilaryGadsby: I will miss MwM on Monday after RootsTech as will be travelling home from SLC.

02:10:43 Cousin Russ: @laurie_pratt writes A Letter to a Stranger #dna #genealogy
02:09:58 June Butka: It is a well written letter.
02:10:16 RandySeaver: I will miss the 2/26 MwM because I will be flying in after noon that day.

UN Holocaust
02:11:46 Cousin Russ: United Nations Department of Public Information 2018 Holocaust Remembrance Calendar of Events
02:12:05 Cousin Russ: MyHeritage CEO Gilad Japhet Tells the Stories of His Ancestors Who Were Victims of the Holocaust

02:15:15 Susan Bleimehl: Excellent show today. Thanks everyone!

The conversation continues here


ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 22 Jan 2018


Mondays with Myrt, where we talk about anything and everything that has come across our genea-desks during the past week. Our topics include upcoming events,  how this Zoom Webinar interface is readily viewable on a variety of devices in addition to the following. Links we mention are found in the selected chat comments below.

  1. Is shooting itself in the fool by not indexing it’s online trees since Oct 2017?
  2. Ancestry Member Trees don’t receive hints in certain situations
  3. Ancestry Trees consider the attached documents and citations you upload through Family Tree Maker or RootsMagic as “other sources” and so they won’t be indexed.
  4. Amy Johnson Crow’s 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks content prompts.
  5. David Allen Lambert
  6. Extreme Genes
  7. Western Massachusetts Genealogical Society is switching from Google Hangouts to Zoom webinars.
  8. Genealogy Girl Talks
  9. Instagram
  10. Guild of One-Name Studies
  11. Problems at MyHeritageDNA with communication between matches
  12. NextGen Live tonight features our friend Blaine Bettinger, The Genetic Genealogist
  13. GeneaWebinars Calendar and Blog.

Selected Chat Comments

Upcoming events

10:02:20 From Cousin Russ : GenDoc Study Group – Wednesday 24 Jan 2018,noon Eastern US (New York) SYLLABUS Mastering Genealogical Documentation by Thomas W. Jones, 2017 (Arlington, VA: National Genealogical Society). [Available from the publisher at and in Amazon’s Kindle bookstore.] REGISTRATION URL
10:02:41 From Valerie Eichler Lair : Yayyy last one!!! Then again, will miss the weekly GenDoc get together!

10:05:14 From Cousin Russ : THE ARCHIVE LADY – 24 Jan 2018 – 9pm Eastern US (New York). We are delighted to feature our resident archivist Melissa Barker, who serves as the Certified Archives Manager at the Houston County, Tennessee Archives. A popular genealogical speaker, author and blogger, Melissa is also the FGS Forum Reviews Editor. REGISTRATION URL
10:05:31 From Shelley Murphy to All panelists : This will be exciting!

10:06:03 From Cousin Russ : NGSQ Study Group in Second Life – Thursday, January 25 at 7:00pm – 8:00pm (SL time is the same as Pacific US time) Description:The Second Life NGSQ Study Group focuses on a specific article from the National Genealogical Society Quarterly 11 months each year. Hosted by Ellington Sweeney. We meet on the 4th Thursdays as follows: WHEN 6pm SL time (Same as Pacific US) WHERE

Second Life Avatars and Genealogy

NOTE: This is the link to the Archived: WW Second Life Avatars and Genealogy where Ol’ Myrt here demonstrates how to set up as free account in Second Life, create an avatar, and get to the Just Genealogy FirePit where this meeting is held.


10:06:54 From Cousin Russ : AmericaGen STUDY GROUP – Chapter 1 – 31 Jan 2018, Noon Eastern US (New York). SYLLABUS: Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback, REGISTRATION PAGE

10:03:17 From Cousin Russ : ALBION’S SEED STUDY GROUP – 31 Jan 2018 – 9pm Eastern US (New York) The South of England to Virginia: Distressed Cavaliers and Indentured Servants 1642-75. SYLLABUS Albion’s Seed: Four British Folkways in America by David Hackett Fischer s, 1989 (New York: Oxford University Press). REGISTRATION URL

10:09:03 From Shelley Murphy : Plusword was hilarious!
10:09:19 From Valerie Eichler Lair : It was my first time seeing Plusword. And, yes, it was SO much fun to watch!
10:09:38 From Betty-Lu Burton : It was a blast, I just have to learn how to get into the chat now
10:11:17 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Whatever you are doing now shows the whole panel.
10:11:52 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : And I thank you for that Russ.
10:12:56 From DearMYRTLE to All panelists : Randy – anything you want to talk about this morning – send the link here.
10:13:38 From Doris Haskell : I am enjoying the handsome bow tie that John Laws is sporting today.
10:14:38 From Shelley Murphy : The quality is way better!
10:17:49 From Doris Haskell : When the time is right, I just realized I have something to share about family birthday calendars/spreadsheets.
10:18:04 From Danine Cozzens : The ics calendar on zoom works well for me — just click and go.
10:18:19 From Valerie Eichler Lair : Windows 10 PC
10:18:20 From Jacqueline Wilson : Mac HiSierra
10:18:22 From Denise Coughlin to All panelists : Work computer via Chrome 🙂
10:18:23 From Debi Polen : windows 10 laptop
10:18:25 From Pam Helm : I am on a desktop mac
10:18:26 From Dawn Carlile : Windows 10 pc laptop
10:18:26 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : It does not hangup, stall, or stop at the most inopportune times where you have to restart.
10:18:29 From Milissa Boyer Kafes to All panelists : windows 10 pc
10:18:34 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : Windows 10 desktop
10:18:36 From Betty-Lu Burton : Windows 7 PC laptop
10:18:38 From Valerie Lisk : Windows 7 laptop on Chrome
10:18:39 From Kim Knepper to All panelists : Samsung tablet
10:18:40 From Deb Andrew : Ipad Pro
10:18:41 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Windows 10 PC tower
10:18:43 From Denise Olson to All panelists : my iPad – great quality
10:18:43 From Danine Cozzens : MacBook Pro 2012 Laptop
10:18:44 From Cheri Passey : Windows 10, running on chrome. Great quality!
10:18:52 From Shelley Murphy : I am at work and on Windows 10, laptop, PC.
10:18:54 From Sheryl Zeringue to All panelists : Windows 10 laptop on Chrome
10:18:57 From Joanne Shackford Parkes : On Mac PowerBook – transition to Zoom was very easy but that’s because of the hard work behind the scenes by you guys
10:18:58 From Elizabeth McMurrey to All panelists : Windows10 PC, very good quality.
10:19:05 From Cyndy Bray to All panelists : windows 7 laptop quality good
10:19:17 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Windows 7, Chrome; the best thing so far is that the connection doesn’t drop like it regularly did when using Bus. Hangouts
10:19:19 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : I have Windows 10 laptop and/or desktop.
10:19:20 From Marcia Philbrick to All panelists : Windows 10 PC (normally on a Windows 10 laptop – but it is running updates)
10:19:21 From Susan Bleimehl : Windows 10 laptop Chrome browser DLS internet connection.
10:19:30 From Shelley Murphy : I agree Joanne…it was an ease, at home I am on my Macbook Pro 2012
10:19:38 From Marie V Melchiori to All panelists : I’;m using Win7 Pro and it’s really fuzzy
10:19:51 From Debi Polen : downloaded the client – not via browser
10:20:00 From Dawn Carlile : I prefer that unless you are screen sharing that you show all of the panelists.
10:20:17 From RandySeaver to All panelists : my Windows 7 PC doesn’t start Zoom very fast, but it did eventually. Probably because of CPU and memory issues
10:20:52 From Denise Coughlin to All panelists : the only thing I don’t like about Zoom is the inability to pause the talking. Google Hangouts I was able to do that. But still Zoom not bad! [It is possible to pause the talking, pause the recording, mute people if you are the host, spotlight people if you are the host, etc.]
10:22:21 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Dawn, I agree, I like seeing all the panelists.
10:22:31 From Doris Haskell : Windows10 PC here
10:23:16 From Jacqueline Wilson : Week 2 = your favorite photo
10:23:20 From AnnaMatthews : Week 2 was Favorite Photo
10:24:10 From RandySeaver : I’m up to 210 posts for 52 Ancestors going down my Ahnentafel list – in the 6th great-grands now.
10:24:33 From RandySeaver : that was 3.5 years ago on FS
10:24:59 From HilaryGadsby :

10:27:25 From Cousin Russ :
10:27:25 From Shelley Murphy : I am enjoying it.

10:28:48 From Cousin Russ : @DLGenealogist Jan 21 Share a story about your Ancestors who fought in the Civil War.

10:28:52 From DaveRobison : Amy Johnson Crow will be our “virtual” speaker at the April meeting of Western  Massachusetts Genealogical Society.

10:29:22 From Shelley Murphy : Oh Dave I would like to tune in on that one, I love Amy!

10:29:25 From Cousin Russ :

10:29:26 From Marcia Philbrick : There is also a #genealogyphotoaday activity on Instagram and Twitter. I think Genealogy Girls on Facebook is the sponsor.

10:30:43 From Cousin Russ : @GenealogyGirlTalks and #genealogyphotoaday
10:32:04 From Doris Haskell : Polyester [Myrt says Thanks for reminding me Doris!]
10:32:05 From Deb Andrew : Bow ties are cool!
10:33:07 From HilaryGadsby : We had snow on the hills in Wales but now warmer
10:33:17 From Betty-Lu Burton : No you sent the snow to the southeastern part of the USA
10:33:26 From Valerie Eichler Lair : GOOD for you John!!! {{{hugs}}}
10:35:06 From Cousin Russ :

10:35:52 From Cousin Russ :

10:40:01 From Marcia Philbrick : My most recent blog about the indexing issue:

10:42:45 From Marcia Philbrick : Randy’s post dated Oct 31, 2017 contains links to all of the posts I wrote in October –

10:45:01 From Marcia Philbrick : May have a 3rd issue — My DNA results are missing a lot of the shared matches that were there when my DNA was connected to my old tree (Pre RootsMagic TreeShare).
10:47:57 From Rachel Evans to All panelists : I’m rebuilding my tree and the hints I get only appear once I sync my tree.
10:48:17 From Betty-Lu Burton : So do you have to have an Ancestry source on everyone in your tree or do you just need to have an Ancestry source for one person in the tree for the whole tree to be indexed?
10:49:07 From Marcia Philbrick : It is my understanding that I have to have at least one Ancestry source in order for a person to be found. Thus, one Ancestry source for each person. Marcia Philbrick
10:51:52 From Linda Stufflebean to All panelists : The most annoying thing about Ancestry’s idea of a source is that an Ancestry Tree is considered a source.
10:52:27 From Linda Stufflebean : The most annoying thing about Ancestry’s idea of a source is that an Ancestry Tree is considered a source.
10:53:33 From Joanne Shackford Parkes : I’m currently going through all of my shared DNA matches and researching the same person. I’m am finding a few folks who have a shared ancestor on Ancestry but are not showing up as shared matches — am not sure why.
10:55:20 From Rachel Evans : I use the library for ancestry so I download the images and make my own source when I get home. It almost feels like I’m being forced to have a subscription for people to find my tree.
10:55:28 From Shelley Murphy : Ancestry is not a source.
10:55:46 From RandySeaver : Ancestry has been removing record collections on a regular basis – 21 last week, 20 the week before. We don’t know what they were.
10:56:20 From Marie V Melchiori to All panelists : But most people don’t realize that an Ancestry Tree is “another source.”
10:56:32 From Marcia Philbrick : I’ve been waiting for the indexing issue to be resolved before trying to resolve the DNA issue. The shared matches are still there (thus not privatized) but they aren’t showing up as a ‘hint’ match when we have common ancestors.
10:57:00 From Tony Proctor : I can’t imagine that Ancestry is deliberately excluding sources other than their own — that would be a MAJOR issue of genealogical naivety — so it must be a coding bug or a misunderstanding in one of their implementation teams
10:58:16 From RandySeaver : I fear that Dilbert’s pointy-haired boss has joined Ancestry in a management position over Trees
10:59:31 From Marcia Philbrick : According to RootsMagic — it is an Ancestry API issue. Ancestry only recognizes their citations. If I have a free form citation with within the citation, it is not picked up as an Ancestry source.

11:01:49 From Cousin Russ : Jennifer de Fiebre – January 20 at 9:49pm – “I heard back from MyHeritage regarding my support ticket about whether an active subscription was required to message my DNA matches. Support has confirmed this is the case. This makes MyHeritage the first testing company that requires a subscription to contact your matches. That’s deeply disappointing, especially since I actually purchased a kit from MyHeritage instead of transferring my results from another testing company for free.”
11:01:59 From Shelley Murphy : I have a kit from them for the last 6 months and have not used it yet. To me, they are too new to the game.
11:02:01 From Dawn Carlile : I transferred my results but I also had a subscription to MyHeritage.
11:03:51 From HilaryGadsby : Is this because they are trying to encourage us to add trees
11:04:51 From Rachel Evans : I transferred my results and my husband’s to myheritage with no subscription but have not contacted anybody yet. I may have to try it later though.
11:04:55 From Deb Andrew : Before I had a dna test with them, and on a free account, I could communicate with others
11:04:58 From Doris Haskell : I have only tested with Ancestry. Same with our neighbor, whose mother we found in October. I plan to take advantage of specials at RootsTech to test with other companies to take Baline’s suggestion.

11:05:16 From Marilyn Poole to All panelists : My understanding is that you need a (Free) subscription with My Heritage but the paid portion is for their database. Unless I’m mistaken.
11:05:44 From Valerie Eichler Lair : I have not tested with MH, but I was going to upload my raw data to them. However, with what our dear genie-bud Jennifer says, I probably won’t since I do not have a subscription with MH. This is frustrating! 🙁
11:06:04 From Jacqueline Wilson : I was told that I did not need to ‘test’ at MyHeritage as I transferred my FtDNA test results to MyH.
11:06:57 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : I had the free account and did my DNA with them and could contact the people. I have since then got the data subscription.
11:07:04 From HilaryGadsby : Is it more about being able to initiate communication rather than not being able to communicate.
11:07:30 From Deb Andrew : If it reverts back, the tree will go back to 250 people.
11:08:15 From HilaryGadsby : Ancestry will not let you initiate contact unless you have a paid account but you can reply
11:08:39 From Betty-Lu Burton : I wonder if you once had a paid subscription and then go to a free subscription if it would be treated as still a paid subcription for contacting people
11:08:39 From Shelley Murphy : I am not sure I want to even transfer to them. [Myrt says I would recommend testing with MyHeritage. This is another testing pool in which to fish for possible DNA matches.]
11:09:34 From Doris Haskell : I would be happy if more DNA matches would use GEDmatch.
11:09:38 From June Butka : I did transfer. Until the 17th I had a subscription. I just tried to use my DNA matches today. I can’t contact my matches.
11:10:06 From Shelley Murphy : let’s invite Mr. David (or what ever his name is to join us. He is on other things.)
11:10:30 From Mary Foxworthy to All panelists : My Heritage — When my subscription expired I lost the ability to contact DNA matches

11:11:42 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.
11:12:39 From Cousin Russ : NextGen LIVE! with Blaine Bettinger 22 Jan 2018 8pm Eastern

11:14:30 From Doris Haskell : I already see an application for me with Trello. RootsTech, vendors to visit, classes to attend, DNA tests to purchase, books to look for, tools/toys to buy.
11:14:34 From Danine Cozzens : Which level of paying for Trello lets you do all this? (I have the free version and it
11:15:31 From Valerie Eichler Lair : Danine -I can do all of the things that Myrt is showing on Trello…in mine for free. 🙂
11:16:42 From DaveRobison to All panelists : How do you get the checklist? I can add events, but I can’t “check them off.”
11:16:55 From Danine Cozzens : Good to hear! Originally I could not add pix so I haven’t even tried.
11:17:02 From Cheri Passey : I use trello for everthing!
11:17:40 From Mary Lou Gravatt : I was thinking about using Trello for my 52 Ancestors each month.
11:18:25 From Rachel Evans : I’ve started using Trello for a research toolbox. It enables me to make cards for specific topic so works well.
11:18:33 From HilaryGadsby : I have Trello on my phone and tablet
11:19:08 From Shelley Murphy : Mary Lou that is a great idea!
11:19:19 From Doris Haskell : Becky has a lot of genealogy photos and documents on her Trello cards. I want to learn how to do that.
11:19:40 From Marcia Philbrick : How does one access tonights NextGenLive?
11:21:29 From Mary Lou Gravatt : Hilary that what I was thinking about doing with the 52 ancestors.
11:21:51 From June Butka : I may just attempt to learn Trello. it should help me with my 52 Ancestors and the Book of me Prompts.
11:22:17 From Marcia Philbrick : Hilary – Can you pull the photos directly from Trello in your blog? (Or do you need to go to the folder on your computer to insert the photo?) [Trello is for planning, not to link to your blog.]
11:22:23 From AnnaMatthews to All panelists : Marcia, NextGenLive broadcasts on their channel on YouTube.
11:22:48 From RandySeaver : Is Trello searchable by search engines? If not, why add blog content to Trello? I can see using it for blog prompts and research ideas
11:23:03 From AnnaMatthews : Marcia, NextGenLive broadcasts on their channel on YouTube.
11:23:09 From Cheri Passey : Hilary, I use Trello for #52Ancestors too. I have lists for each type of post I write. Helps so much to keep them all organized!
11:23:21 From Cousin Russ : CONTINUE the conversation after the webinar in DearMYRTLE’s Google+ Community with comments to this post:
11:24:07 From Doris Haskell : MYRT, you seem to be feeling much better than you did two weeks ago. Makes me happy.

11:24:39 From Cousin Russ : GeneaWebinars Calendar of Hangouts, Webinars and Online Chats this coming week:
11:24:57 From Cousin Russ :
11:26:11 From jason Holt : Sorry I was super late! Not programmed to tune in on Mondays as I usually have to work!
11:26:14 From Valerie Eichler Lair : I know I’ll need some tissues to dry the tears at Wednesday’s GenDoc. Bittersweet.
11:26:34 From Shelley Murphy : Enjoy the rest of your day!
11:26:52 From Debi Polen : Thank you.
11:26:58 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank you once again.
11:27:00 From Doris Haskell : Thank you, everyone. Especially Cousin Russ and dearMYRTLE
11:28:24 From Jacqueline Wilson : Hilary – I used to read the 1st one mentioned.
11:29:14 From DearMYRTLE :
11:30:32 From Valerie Lisk : St. Louis County Library has magazines online.
11:32:39 From Linda Jordan to All panelists : Many libraries have magazines online.

We learn by comparing and contrasting the history and culture of a community with others. Though you may not have early British immigrants to America, this study group offers ideas about what folkways to look for. The ones marked with a red asterisk below are those I’ll tend to focus on during our discussions in this series.


  • 17 Jan 2018
    East Anglia to Massachusetts: The Exodus of the English Puritans 1629-41
  • 31 Jan 2018
    The South of England to Virginia: Distressed Cavaliers and Indentured Servants 1642-75
  • 7 Feb 2018
    North Midlands to the Delaware: The Friends’ Migration 1675-1725
  • 7 Mar 2018
    Borderlands to the Back Country: The Flight from North Britain 1717-1775

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Gosh, July has just flown by! Now it’s time to recoup, regroup, redirect and rejoin our Mondays with Myrt genealogy hangouts. Cousin Russ is on hand to bring in your comments and questions. Register using your favorite social media account. Then check your confirmation and reminder emails for your personal link to not only VIEW but COMMENT during the live hangout. The archived version shows up within the hour at the same location. For first time users: FAQ System requirements for: ComputersAndroid devicesiPhone / iPad . 

Want to be a filmstrip panel participant? Wired internet works for best quality sound and video. You’ll need a USB headset mic and ear phones (or earbuds with an inline mic), and of course, a webcam. Register with your Google account and arrive at least 15 minutes early. Cousin Russ will send out the invitation in the “unified chat” and bring you “up” on the panel. Be prepared to make a few adjustments the first time you try this out. Mondays with Myrt is an easy, fun way to share what we’re learning about how best to find those elusive ancestors.

MONDAYS WITH MYRT (90 minutes)

  • Registeration: Monday, 7 Aug 2017
  • The live broadcast starts at Noon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles) Practical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. We talk about everything that’s come across our genea-desks in the past week – make that month. Powerful breakthroughs happen during our live hangouts. Catch the rebroadcast here, along with all the links we mention.


DearMYRTLE and Cousin Russ recognize the United Nations’ International Decade for People of African Descent 2015-2024. We reach out to _all_ regardless of race, color, creed or national origin with support for researching family and documenting cultural inheritance.

Let’s explore genealogy websites, figure out how DNA test results may or may not match our paper-trail research, explore new family history software and apps, hash out our commitment to the Genealogical Proof Standard, and maybe get organized. Then there’s the MyHeritage-Legacy Family Tree scenario to discuss. Ol’ Myrt here will demo something about a RootsMagic Tree Share and a Family Tree Maker sync to It has to do with shared Ancestry Member Trees.

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Yes, I’ve had a marvelous month-long vacation with the Orcas Island family reunion and other travel. At the International Germanic Genealogy Conference, Dirk Weissleder coined the phrase Think GeneaGlobally. I cannot wait to hear what’s happened to you this past month. If there’s time I’ll add my report about personal research breakthroughs. Yes, I actually did some onsite research. I can tell this week’s Mondays with Myrt is going to be action packed!

Happy family tree climbing!
Myrt     🙂
Your friend in genealogy.