ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 5 Nov 2018


As usual we discuss the latest genea-news that’s come across our desk including:

  • WWI Conclusion
  • The Library and Archives of Canada
  • The Canadian Expeditionary Forces
  • Cousin Russ’ new Blue Yeti microphone
  • Kathryn Lake Hogan’s Thursday Canadian Research With a Twist webinars
  • MyHeritage Users Conference Oslo 2018
  • MyHeritage announces extracting DNA from our ancestors’ envelopes and stamps
  • Pat Kuhn’s report to FamilySearch about an error message.
  • Family History Ron reported the FamilySearch Family Tree has issues that are being addressed by programmers starting Monday, 5 Nov 2018, hopefully concluding late Friday, 9 Nov 2018.



10:00:47 From Deb Andrew : Good morning.
10:03:49 From Hilary Gadsby : I am trying to decide whether to come on train or drive to Birmingham.
10:04:11 From Jenny Hawran to All panelists : Hello from Connecticut 🙂

November is (US) National Native American Heritage month.
To celebrate, we’re offering free access* to our Native American collection November 1-15 until midnight Mountain Time.

Sunday, Nov 11, 2018 marks 100 years since WWI.

10:06:16 From Cousin Russ to All panelists :

10:07:31 From Betty-Lu Burton : I think here in the USA many people do not realize the significance of Nov 11. They tend to put all Veterans together on this day.
10:07:47 From Hilary Gadsby :
10:08:36 From Deb Andrew : I had my first DNA match that was across the pond. They had a tree and matched with mine. I had five total matches to this person who is in England.
10:09:03 From Jenny Hawran to All panelists : I’m participating in Healther Rojo’s Honor Roll project. I’ve transcribed 3 monuments in my town with photos for my blog. It is amazing when you really LOOK at these monuments and see family names you recognize from your town

10:09:04 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Your voice seems a bit deeper with that desk mic, Russ
10:10:36 From Betty-Lu Burton : Headphones and earbuds, for me my ear ringing just gets louder

10:12:43 From Dave Robison : Heard a great presentation for David Allen Lambert yesterday at the MSOG annual conference. He spoke mostly about WW I and especially about Canadian records at It’s a site I’ve used to get an enormous amount of information on my materenal grandfather’s experience in the Canadian Expeditionary Forces.

10:12:47 From Pat Kuhn : taking a picture of my grandfather’s military stone showed that the dates were wrong
10:12:47 From Marian Koalski : I’m surprised that he could find your phone number, Russ!
10:12:53 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : The link I posted includes information about events in Denmark and Germany
10:14:55 From Betty-Lu Burton : It is booming outside now. Here in Arkansas
10:15:43 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Search is In the sidebar on the top left
10:15:45 From Rachel Evans : I’ve also used the Canadian expeditionary Forces records. Discovered a relative who enlisted as Applegate but later changed it later to the original very German sounding name. It was very informative.
10:16:54 From Yvonne Demoskoff : try the previous page
10:17:04 From Yvonne Demoskoff : seems like you get general search results
10:18:14 From Denise Coughlin : Yes, Kathryn’s webinars are also great!
10:18:19 From Dave Robison :
10:18:49 From bjanvier to All panelists : Can you give a link to Kathryn’s webinars?
10:19:24 From jeannecourval : Also, that is the name of person who has webinar on thursdays?
10:20:28 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : This is what I was talking about
10:20:41 From Karen Trearchis : Wow, you are so lucky Dave! My grandpa was WWI US
10:21:02 From jeannecourval : I have a distant cousin who served in WWI, but he had enlisted in Navy rather than was drafted. Where would I find more about him?

10:23:19 From Randy Seaver : So the DNA challenge will be to get the DNA from the envelope or stamped that our Civil War pension guy sent in
10:25:15 From Karen Trearchis : So cool! I have a couple of letters from my grandmother and want this done!
10:25:29 From Betty-Lu Burton : Has MyHeritage posted any of the conference on the Internet? I heard that they may be posting some of the sessions, but am not sure where.
10:25:33 From Pat Kuhn : I have a letter my great grandfather sent to my father
10:26:32 From Randy Seaver : The MH Live videos aren the MyHeritage Users Group Facebook page.
10:26:37 From Christine Cotton : Don’t forget the possibility that the postmaster licked and affixed the envelope for your ancestor!
10:26:43 From Danine Cozzens : Could DNA be extracted from one of those hair wreaths done in the 19th c? Would not know whose hair was which tho. Interesting project.
10:27:29 From Randy Seaver : They said that hair was not able to be analyzed like that
10:28:08 From Louis Kessler : Once you get the DNA results, you’ll be able to determine whether it was from a relative or not, and if so, it shouldn’t be too hard to determine who.
10:28:26 From Randy Seaver : The MyHeritage LIVE videos are on They will be on Family Tree Webinars at some point
10:28:40 From Dave Robison : Is that Roberta Estes?
10:28:52 From Randy Seaver : yes, it is roberta
10:29:01 From Dave Robison : Tx Randy!
10:31:24 From Cousin Russ : Redux of MyHeritage LIVE (videos)
10:31:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : I tried to watch one of the sessions but my internet kept refreshing and it was to distracting
10:32:20 From Bill West : Good afternoon from Massachusetts. Finally!
10:34:22 From Louis Kessler : That was a question from a person in the audience that referred to “infidelity”
10:34:29 From Karen Trearchis : Excellent point Pat.
10:35:22 From bjanvier to All panelists : It is a closed group can’t see archives.
10:36:09 From Betty-Lu Burton : I just asked to join the MyHeritage facebook page.
10:37:09 From Cousin Russ : US – WDYTYA starts Dec 3 on TLC at 10pm Eastern.
10:37:55 From Doris Haskell : Henry Louis Gates has a new series beginning in January
10:38:19 From Betty-Lu Burton : Yes this is his birthday month, He is 30 and holding says his daughter that is approaching 30 herself
10:39:12 From Randy Seaver : FH Ron is one of my YouTube subscriptions.
10:39:19 From Cousin Russ : Family History Ron on FB
10:39:49 From Betty-Lu Burton : Family History Ron will answer your questions concerning FamilySearch/ FamilyTree
10:40:33 From Betty-Lu Burton : He is not afraid to let you know that he does not know.
10:40:33 From Randy Seaver : Family History Ron YouTube channel is
10:43:55 From cyndy Bray : Are there tutorials on th FS family tree? I tried to fix the wrong parentage for my 2nd GGrandmother and instead of fixing it I just made it worse
10:45:46 From Valerie Lisk : Cyndy, they are on on the BYU page.
10:46:21 From cyndy Bray : Thanks Valarie
10:46:21 From Randy Seaver : Cyndy, The Family History Guide has tutorials too – see
10:46:33 From Valerie Lisk : Now, when I am on the person page on FS and click view tree, I get a 404 error message.
10:47:12 From Valerie Lisk : YWCyndy
10:48:53 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I have added Hugh’s record from 1870 census.
10:49:46 From jeannecourval : One other way to tackle this might be to go to and pull up the census record there. If there error is in the record, you can leave a note as to why it should be changed.
10:50:11 From jeannecourval : It may be that the is getting its info from
10:50:37 From Randy Seaver : We all have a number on FamilySearch Family Tree – I am LH5N-K6D but you can’t see my info because I think I’m still living
10:52:17 From Valerie Lisk : Randy, you are correct. You ARE still living.
10:52:58 From Randy Seaver : LOL Valerie, I guess so, but how do you know i’m not a time traveler from the future?
10:54:37 From Pat Kuhn to All panelists :
10:54:48 From Valerie Lisk : Randy, would you consider being a time traveler from the past? I have lots of questions you could help with.
10:54:56 From Randy Seaver : BYU Family History Library YouTube channel is It has many tutorials and presentations about Family Tree
10:56:34 From Cousin Russ : Jeannecourval — do you have a question ?
10:57:57 From Deb Andrew : I’ve had it were I found a record and it will not let me attach the record to the person. I also have another person changing info on my great grandparents saying they immigrated to the states in 1879. They were not even a live at the time. The parents visist back and forth, but immigrated in 1906 and naturalized in 1915.
10:58:54 From Betty-Lu Burton : Here is the URL for a new BYU video on correcting gender and relationships
10:59:15 From jeannecourval : No question – I put my comment about going back to the link in Ancestry to see what is listed there.
10:59:26 From Susan Ennis : The director of our local Family History Center offers a time slot for patrons to get assistance with these types of problems. We really appreciate our local director!
10:59:48 From Susan Ennis : sorry..that is time slot!
11:00:02 From Deb Andrew : I was lucky that I have the information on the naturalization as it was a big write up in the newspaper as a father and son were naturalized at the same time.
11:00:37 From Valerie Lisk : Once they are finished with the recoding, will that corrrect not being able to go to a person’s tree from their person page?
11:01:05 From jeannecourval : I just checked and the record is correct
11:01:29 From Cousin Russ : The Family History Guide has tutorials too – see .

11:01:47 From Cousin Russ : Hilary’s RootsTech pass contest is live:
11:02:07 From Randy Seaver : I haven’t started my RootsTech contest yet…
11:04:06 From bjanvier to All panelists : Do you have a link about the FS Coders working this week?
11:04:37 From Randy Seaver : James Tanner and Sue Maxwell and others are drivers of the Family History Guide
11:05:17 From Devon Lee : I can come in if you want
11:06:22 From Deb Andrew : No pain, no gain Devon.
11:14:50 From Cousin Russ : Findmypast Friday November 2nd
British Irish Military Records COVER 1
11:20:14 From Cousin Russ : DearMYRTLE’s British & Irish Military Records Study Group
11:20:33 From Deb Andrew : He is funny.
11:22:17 From Deb Andrew : I have an all access subscription. You can do a monthly as well.
11:23:32 From Cousin Russ :
11:27:21 From Cousin Russ :
11:27:24 From Doris Haskell : What was the name of that mystery author again? Jane Sinclair?
11:28:11 From Doris Haskell : Thanks. M. J. Lee?
11:28:29 From Cousin Russ : Christmas truce
11:29:43 From Pat Richley-Erickson to All panelists :
11:29:50 From Maria Tegtmeier  :
11:29:54 From Doris Haskell : Yay! Thanks, Deb Andrew
11:30:36 From Randy Seaver : My CVGS Workshop blog post is
11:31:38 From Bill West to All panelists : There was a song written about it, “Christmas in the Trenches”
11:32:16 From Cousin Russ : Silent Night ??? Mr West ???
11:33:42 From Cousin Russ : or was it Land of Hope and Glory – Men of Harlech
11:34:18 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : I think that a lot of people also don’t know what questions to ask.
11:34:32 From Hilary Gadsby : I was looking at someone on FamilySearch earlier and prior to that I was looking at a search for someone else now when I go to attach a record it wants to attach it to the last person I was looking at rather than the person in the search. I wonder if this is what happened to Pat.
11:35:45 From Susan Ennis : Our local genealogy society has partnered with our Local FHC director to publicize. This has increased visitors to the FHC.
11:36:16 From Devon Lee : Around here in Houston, folks prefer to go to the large library in Houston – Clayton, rather than the FHC. They’ll also rather go to the public library than the FHC. One FHC is in entirely the wrong place… not close to anything.
11:37:05 From jeannecourval : Randy , can you send us that “guide” as well? I have tried to use the catalog without a lot of success.
11:37:30 From Cousin Russ : its been posted several times earlier
11:37:54 From jeannecourval : OK, How do I find it?
11:38:01 From Cousin Russ :
11:38:14 From jeannecourval : Thank you.
11:38:27 From Cousin Russ : scroll up the chat
11:39:00 From Doris Haskell : We are holding a series of open houses at our FHC in an attempt to get the word out that we are interested in helping our entire community.
11:39:02 From Randy Seaver : JeanneCourval – send me an email please also on Family Tree Webinars
11:39:54 From Pat Kuhn : was using this over the weekend, only way to find Luzerne County PA records
11:39:57 From Joanne Parkes : Sadly the Family History Center in Flagstaff, AZ where I’d been volunteering (as a non LDS member) on Tuesday mornings, just restricted it’s hours to only Wednesday evenings. The church had a difficult time finding volunteers and the reality was that very few people came to use these wonderful resources.
11:40:49 From Doris Haskell : Grocery store lines are wonderful. You have a captive audience.

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11:41:37 From Maria Tegtmeier : “Bling”
11:41:44 From Devon Lee : Bling
11:42:45 From cyndy Bray : Love it wonder what font she used

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 26 Mar 2018

DearMYRTLE's Mondays with Myrt

Powerful breakthroughs happen during Mondays with Myrt, our flagship webinar, held most weeks of the year. We talk about anything and everything that’s come across our genea-desks during the past week. Among other things, today’s episode includes:

  • Dave’s #RootsTech experience (how to handle big genealogy conferences)
  • Other large-scale conferences, outside the genealogy vertical
  • Guild of One Name Studies
  • Why blog?
  • New York Genealogical & Biographical Society
  • Reclaim the Records & RPAC (Records Preservation and Access Committee)


00:22:01 Yvonne Demoskoff: I finally made it in 🙂
00:22:23 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Yippee, you made it. The update wiped out my RM7 key. Had to request it again from RM.
00:22:23 Danine Cozzens: Happy to be in! I had to exit and re-register. Glad you are all here.
00:22:26 AnnaMatthews: Went to NARA NY for first in series – Finding Family Genealogy Series. First one was Joshua Taylor speaking about NYG&B. Also wanted to talk about NYC vital records access. I have a few links for that and for the NYG&B.
00:23:03 Doris Haskell: I made it on my iPad using Safari
00:23:06 Denise Coughlin: I did the re-registering trick too! Guess it is really a Monday 🙂
00:23:41 Janine Edmée Hakim: Good sunny day to ne and all
00:25:07 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Happy Birthday again, Lisa, if you do show up.
00:25:17 Bill West: Phew. Finally here from sunny, chilly Massachusetts.

00:25:29 Cheri Passey: Loved meeting you at RootsTech, Dave!!
00:25:51 Melinda Culpon: Dave just had too much fun at RootsTech!
00:26:00 Cousin Russ: RootsTech
00:26:08 JoAnn Lawrence: Does any one remember the website about maps from last week? I seem to have lost the link. [Old Maps Online ]
00:26:24 HilaryGadsby: It was great to meet so many online friends at RootsTech

00:27:10 Cousin Russ: New England Regional Genealogical Consortium
00:27:24 RandySeaver: Jamboree has about 1500-2000 each year
00:27:25 Melinda Culpon: It was great getting together with everyone! That was the best part of Rootstech
00:27:32 AnnaMatthews: Looking forward to attending NERGC next year!
00:28:01 JoAnn Lawrence: I had problems finding the blog this week. Maybe it was all the snow we have this last week. I’ll try again. Thanks
00:28:15 Deb Andrew: I think they need to talk to the people who organize the Houston Quilt Show. They have tons of classes and lots of people who attended.
00:29:00 Danine Cozzens: Was this the one about maps?
00:32:52 JoAnn Lawrence: No, the one about overlapping maps.
00:33:20 Susan Bleimehl: JoAnn, I also had trouble finding last Monday’s MWM. Still haven’t seen it.

00:33:30 Cousin Russ: National Genealogical Society –
00:33:56 Doris Haskell: I used to go to big Amway conferences, 20 years ago, and this RootsTech is very good, in my view.

FGS logo
00:34:05 Cousin Russ: Federation of Genealogical Society –
00:34:30 JoAnn Lawrence: Thanks, I thought it was me. I’ll keep trying.
00:34:32 HilaryGadsby: MwM from last week may not be up on YouTube yet check Myrt’s Musings blog
00:34:52 Dawn Carlile: I always fly in Saturday morning arriving at 8:40ish and spend the day at the FHL, relax on Sunday then have two more days at the FHL before RootsTech. It really helps.

00:36:09 Cousin Russ: Quilt Festival Houston
00:36:25 Dawn Carlile: I also review the handouts to determine if the session is really going to give me what I want before I decide which ones to attend. There are a lot of beginner level sessions that I can skip and very few advanced sessions that I truly must go to.
00:36:29 RandySeaver: There were more complaints at RootsTech because they changed the class entry rules. Nobody expected that, and it was a negative change. Hence more complaints.

00:37:15 Bill West: I’ve attended 6 World Science Fiction Conventions when I was younger. I went to Denver, (by bus), Chicago (by bus) and Baltimore (by train) for three of them. The other three were in Boston. I learned to pace myself and chose panels that were close together at the site. I visited the vendor hall several times over the thee days and was like a kid in a candy shop.
00:37:59 Melinda Culpon: The George R Brown and the Salt Palace are comparable size
00:39:52 Bill West: Best long line I was ever in was at Denver where the line moved ahead to a guy playing the Darth Vader March on an accordion.
00:39:57 Danine Cozzens: JoAnn, I don’t have the overlapping map link saved and will have to review the MWM to find it. (Forgot to save it in OneTab!)
00:40:41 Melinda Culpon: need chat only russ
00:42:56 Danine Cozzens: Re: overlapping maps:
00:43:44 JoAnn Lawrence: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
00:44:28 Yvonne Demoskoff: maybe RT could repeat some classes based on the popularity of speaker
00:44:55 Valerie Lisk: When we have out St Louis Genealogical Society meeting, they have you check the classes you are interested on the registration form so they have a rough idea of how many people may attend.
00:45:09 Danine Cozzens: More historic mapping:
00:45:59 JoAnn Lawrence: Thank you.
00:47:01 Karen Trearchis: Would you be able to put the overflow for a DNA class in a another room with a screen or two to watch the live stream.
00:47:34 Cousin Russ:
00:47:46 Dawn Carlile: DNA sessions should be held in a portion of the general session room as they have done in the past.
00:48:33 RandySeaver: I don’t recall scanning badges for the Keynotes
00:48:42 HilaryGadsby: I know some people watched the keynote sessions on the streaming to avoid the crush afterwards
00:49:28 Deb Andrew: Take it easy and get well.
00:49:43 Rachel Evans: Your health is more important.
00:49:44 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Hugs back.
00:49:46 Deb Andrew: Hugs, Hugs, Hugs
00:50:07 HilaryGadsby: Guild of One Name Studies
00:50:21 Susan Bleimehl: You ARE good. 🙂 Health is more important than posting.
00:50:24 Janine Edmée Hakim: DearMyrt….{ { { }}}
00:51:04 Danine Cozzens: Take your time to get well! You can see how much we value what you do; and someone will have the correct link to post.
00:54:16 JoAnn Lawrence: Please take your time and get well. I can view this later. Your health is more important.
00:54:47 Shelley Murphy: @Susan Bleimehl that is so true! Health is important. Hugs to all.
00:54:58 DearMYRTLE: THANK YOU for being understanding!
00:56:34 RandySeaver: remember the UK history centres have 1000 years of history to deal with

00:56:40 Melinda Culpon: National Railway Museum is FABULOUS!
00:57:13 Cousin Russ:

01:01:32 Deb Andrew: 2x great and great grandfather were coal miners in England and the States.

Borthwick Institute

01:02:35 Cousin Russ:
01:02:37 AnnaMatthews: My great-grandfather Matthews’ baptismal record says his father was a disabled coal miner. They lived in Coleford.
01:03:40 Rachel Evans: My husband’s step-grandfather had some coal miner ancestors from Yorkshire. Thanks for the links.

01:03:55 DearMYRTLE:
01:03:57 DaveRobison: The Museum of Springfield (Mass) Hisotry and Archives has records dating to 1636, the year Springfield was founded.


01:04:32 HilaryGadsby:
01:06:01 Deb Andrew: It will add on to an existing membership. If you are a member you will get 5% off.
01:06:18 Dawn Carlile: Blaine Bettinger has a 5 course series on DNA on FamilyTree Webinars.
01:06:54 Valerie Lisk: From Thomas MacEntee; PLUS use promo code THOMAS15 at checkout and the price is just $24.21!
01:07:06 Valerie Lisk: Wow Russ!
01:08:59 Karen Trearchis: I listened to this and have been using the tools they used during the webinar! Have been great time.
01:09:15 HilaryGadsby: I learnt things from the hands on presentation by Geoff

01:10:31 Randy Seaver: Why I blog – see
01:11:58 Bill West: Randy’s blog was one of several that inspired me to blog about my own family research.It’s all his fault! 🙂
01:12:46 Deb Andrew: Are you related to Gov Seiver. The Owsley Society is going to visit his home during their conference.
01:14:05 Danine Cozzens: Randy, that is so inspirational.
01:16:53 Dawn Carlile: Randy and John, you are so amazing and such an inspiration to the rest of us. I need to start blogging. Turn off the TV and do genealogy!
01:17:00 Rachel Evans: I love reading your blog Randy. Even better we are both descended from the Bloodgoods.

01:18:50 Dawn Carlile: Me, too! One of my DNA matches has 48,000 people in their tree but not much info.
01:20:28 RandySeaver: Deb, Gov Sevier of state of Franklin is another line, out of Virginia. From France, as I recall.
01:20:30 DearMYRTLE: Cousin Russ’ A Worthington Weblog:
01:20:46 DearMYRTLE: Cousin Russ’ YouTube Channel:
01:20:55 Karen Trearchis: Since listening to Geoff (Legacy webinar) I have been using the tools demonstrated and comparing my Dad’s side of tree with relatives, captioning the ethnicity maps and total percentages. The comparisons are my Uncle, my brother, my first cousin, my sons and myself. I sent this out to my cousins and Uncles, hoping more will test. BTW my Dad came from a family of 10. My ethnicities (from Dad) are 38.9% Greek; 9.1 Balkan; 4.9 East European. Then I sent out a copy of the matches of the relatives listed above to the majority of my cousins and Uncle.
01:23:50 HilaryGadsby: You can stay at Morton’s house! 😳🤗😯 New post on Facebook from Nathan Dylan Goodwin
01:23:51 RandySeaver: What Russ has brought to the FTM community has been priceless and ongoing – the logic is impeccable, and the techniques admirable.
01:24:26 Cousin Russ:
01:24:40 Karen Trearchis: I appreciate the tips given in Randy and Cousin Russ blogs! Thanks guys.
01:25:17 RandySeaver: I looked at my Graveyard Rabbit blog recently and the last post was 2010. Oh well.
01:26:27 Cousin Russ:

Billion Graves
01:27:44 Cousin Russ: Billion Graves

01:27:46 DearMYRTLE:

01:28:14 Cousin Russ: Went to NARA NY for first in series – Finding Family Genealogy Series. First one was Joshua Taylor speaking about NYG&B.
01:28:30 Cousin Russ: Also wanted to talk about NYC vital records access. I have a few links for that and for the NYG&B.
01:28:49 AnnaMatthews:

01:30:06 Cousin Russ:
01:31:19 Cousin Russ:
01:31:30 AnnaMatthews: 
The New York Genealogical and Biographical Society YouTube Channel
01:32:15 Janine Edmée Hakim: I’ve been a member for several years….they published the first in many decades York State Gazetteer ….very comprehensive organization
01:32:24 Rachel Evans: After listening to him speak I was ready to go and join. It is definitely a valuable resource for NY researchers.
01:33:00 Valerie Lisk: Click on share

01:35:01 AnnaMatthews: Eleven ways to use the NYG&B website:
01:35:40 Rachel Evans: Was great meeting you Anna!
01:36:51 Janine Edmée Hakim: Yes it is….for a long time

reclaims the records
01:37:21 Cousin Russ:

01:38:22 Cousin Russ: Records Preservation and Access Committee –  A joint committee of the Federation of Genealogical Societies, the National Genealogical Society, and the International Association of Jewish Genealogical Societies

01:38:33 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Go For It!
01:39:03 Cousin Russ: Amy Johnson Crowe
01:39:32 Shelley Murphy: oh I remember Linkpendium, wow!
01:39:47 DaveRobison: That’s on my list of useful websites for my ABCs classes. We’ll be going over that tonight!
01:40:32 DaveRobison: Amy will be with us om a WMGS webinar April 4th!

01:41:12 DearMYRTLE:
01:41:41 Dawn Carlile: I use it all the time.
01:42:13 Dawn Carlile: Newspapers, city directories, books
01:42:21 Dawn Carlile: County Antrim
01:43:24 Sheryl Whisenhunt: JoAnn Lawrence, do you mean the Old Maps Online ?
01:46:15 Cousin Russ:
01:47:01 Rachel Evans: Judy Russell just posted about the LOC and the Supreme Court
01:48:12 JoAnn Lawrence: Sheryl I’ll check later today, thank you. My husband is into old maps and I was hoping he would enjoy the website. Thanks.
01:48:13 Shelley Murphy: So far I have not had any success with GenealogyBank, hoping it comes up soon
01:53:39 Sheryl Whisenhunt: You are welcome JoAnn. I just happen to have had that handy this morning.
01:54:05 Deborah Giddings: Can I save the chat log?
01:55:38 Maria Tegtmeier: Is this Vietnam ship project indexed at all?
01:56:34 Rachel Evans: It’s there Russ
01:56:42 Sheryl Whisenhunt: We see it also.
01:58:23 HilaryGadsby: I need to leave see you next time.
01:59:32 Cousin Russ: And our conversation continues here — — in the DearMYRTLE Genealogy Community
01:59:40 Maria Tegtmeier: My Uncle served in Vietnam but, has passed away. I will ask my cousin if she knows what ship he sailed on.
02:00:57 Maria Tegtmeier: thanks
02:01:49 JoAnn Lawrence: Thank you.
02:02:03 RandySeaver: Been looking through the “Seaver” matches in US Serial Set on GenealogyBank. 1209 items. Several are Civil War pension bills for deceased andl iving soldiers. Excellent resource!
02:02:34 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Take it easy and take care of yourself first. You will get there.
02:02:40 Rachel Evans: Your next blog series Randy!
02:02:48 Geoff Mulholland: Thank you !! Take care
02:03:07 Shelley Murphy: Enjoyed it! Thanks
02:03:17 Bill West: Have a great genealogy week, all!
02:03:18 RandySeaver: maybe, Rachel!

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 19 Mar 2018

DearMYRTLE's Mondays with Myrt

Powerful breakthroughs happen during Mondays with Myrt, our flagship webinar, held most weeks of the year. We talk about anything and everything that’s come across our genea-desks during the past week. Today’s episode includes:

  • Old Maps Online
  • FieldTripper
  • How we may react to communications from a potential cousin.
  • Building society membership, including the use of PayPal processing of membership fees.
  • A problem with how handles UK registration districts with multiple words in the name.
  • The General Data Protection Act (May 2018)


 Old Maps Online 

00:36:57 Cousin Russ: Old Maps Online
00:37:47 Betty-Lu Burton: That is neat
00:37:57 Robbin Smith: yes
00:40:47 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Another resource to follow. Thank you.
00:40:49 Cathy Naborowski: There is an App called FieldTrip that will tell you where things are nearby – you can break it down to history or artchitecture or food.
00:41:26 HilaryGadsby: Scotland has maps for England
00:41:58 Cathy Naborowski: Yes. I have a droid. You can break it down to lots of things.

00:42:19 Cousin Russ:
00:42:29 Cousin Russ: Scotland has maps for England
00:42:54 Bill West: Good morning from chilly Massachusetts.
00:46:51 HilaryGadsby: One of my cousins works for Ordnance Survey
00:53:37 Marian Koalski: Were they using the message interface built into Ancestry or FamilySearch, which won’t allow attachments?
00:55:05 Betty-Lu Burton: I wonder if it is a case of mistaken identity. There being two Austin’s that are being confused
00:56:05 Marian Koalski: A reasonable response might be to send him a direct email address and ask him to send you a JPG of the right photo.
00:56:20 Betty-Lu Burton: Maybe she needs to message him back and ask him where you can find his information on Austin and see what he has
00:57:11 Karen Trearchis: I agree with Dave, the person has seen a lot of false information on his ancestor and saw incorrect picture, but did not read Pat’s page fully.
00:58:46 Rachel Evans: I have sent messages saying that something someone had was wrong. It’s difficult to say it without sounding agressive. If it sounds to me like it is I add that I am not trying to sound that way.
00:58:48 Karen Trearchis: He not be savvy in not knowing how to upload pictures.
01:00:53 Rachel Evans: Ask them what they use to share their tree and ask them to upload there so you can view it without giving an email.
01:02:07 Deb Andrew: Probably just using the research records and not building a tree there.
01:04:33 RandySeaver: Here is profile for Austin VB on FamilySearch Family Tree. No photos or stories.
01:05:04 Robbin Smith: He may have just found the picture through a search and didnt see the tree/relationships
01:05:31 RandySeaver: There is no profile for Austin VB on WikiTree
01:09:52 RandySeaver: All of the info on FamilySearch Family Tree is from FamilySearch – no one else. Info probably from FindAGrave.
01:14:37 JoAnn Lawrence: I found that the person is looking for the research I did. They don’t want to do the research themselves, they just want to copy someone else’s work.
01:16:43 Karen Trearchis: He may be someone that does not want to share his tree and just uses his computer for his family history. He just looks up information on ancestry & familysearch and puts the information he has found & puts it on his genealogy program only. He sees this picture and he knows it is wrong. He sees it repeatedly, so sends Pat the email with fully reading her tree. In my case, I posted my genealogy many years ago on the old site “myfamily.” At the time I did not know my tree was being uploaded to World Family tree. On part of my tree was incorrect, I was just testing an idea. Well now that false information that I wrote is repeated being put on people’s ancestry trees. In the past,I have tried to contact people that are matched to me and tell them that is incorrect & why it is. Some listen some don’t. Frustrating to see, maybe this is what happened to this man/woman and she/he is doing the same.
01:17:27 Karen Trearchis: meant without reading her tree.
01:17:43 Valerie Lisk: If you send a link to the profile, does the person have access to the whole tree?
01:19:13 PatKuhn: thanks for all the help everyone!!!
01:19:38 RandySeaver: Valerie, if the tree is public, another person can see all of the deceased persons
01:20:07 Valerie Lisk: Thanks Randy.
01:22:05 RandySeaver: An Exact search on Ancestry trees found only 5 matches and two had the photo of Austin VB. I didn’t see Pat’s tree on the list
01:24:38 Valerie Lisk: My cousin shared my beginning tree on Ancestry and 6 people have copied it without verifying the information so all of that incorrect info is going around. My tree is now private.

2018 RootsTech Videos

01:26:31 Cousin Russ:
01:26:48 Robbin Smith: it was the first day
01:27:04 Robbin Smith: it was DNA

titanic museum
01:27:17 DaveRobison: This Titanic Museum museum is about 4 miles from where I live:
01:27:18 Robbin Smith: DNA match – no tree no problem
01:28:09 RandySeaver: Lisa Louise Cooke’s video from RootsTech is
01:30:43 RandySeaver: how can anyone turn Dave down?
01:32:52 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Webinars are great for those housebound or unable to walk any distance/move among crowds. Do loose out on the contacts and displays though is a drawback.
01:33:37 Denise Coughlin: What video service do you use Dave?
01:36:48 Deb Andrew: I belong to the Owsley Family Historical Society. They have a newsletter paper and electronic and a very active Facebook group.
01:37:04 RandySeaver: We have a round-table discussion every month at Chula Vista GS Research Group. It’s devolved to almsot all DNA questions/comments/experiences
01:38:50 HilaryGadsby: It is so important for new members or visitors to feel welcome
01:39:31 Cheri Passey: We do the same. We have name tags every month with attatched ribbons representing locations of research. We had at least one round table a year. Very popular meeting!
01:40:38 RandySeaver: CVGS usually does a “Stump the Chumps” program meeting with members questions and challenges discussed by a panel of “experts”
01:41:28 Karen Trearchis: When I was president of Merrimack Valley chapter, MSOG, I use many of the techniques that Dave has used. When I began the chapter in 2010 we began with about 25 & left with 80 members and now I am no longer that chapter is growing! I would get my members to socialize with visitors and invite them to go out to lunch, many come and once they have gone to lunch they are sure to join. It is very important to socialize, chat newcomers and members. What I do is introduce new people to members so they can chat.
01:41:29 Joanne Shackford Parkes: How far do folks travel to attend your meetings? (Asking as I live in small community with a drive of two hours to a large community with active genealogy societies so am so fortunate to “attend” so many webinars.
01:42:40 Karen Trearchis: Should be no longer chapter president, but people are still joining!
01:43:57 RandySeaver: CVGS and SDGS use Wild Apricot which has same features as Constant Contact.
01:44:41 HilaryGadsby: I wish my local society would consider virtual presentations but the current venue is not suitable. No internet access. Difficult to suggest changes that would require a change of venue.
01:45:20 Karen Trearchis: Is there a cost for zoom?
01:45:54 HilaryGadsby: There are different levels for Zoom
01:47:52 Sheri Fenley: It doesn’t cost any money to make someone feel welcome!
01:48:22 DearMYRTLE: 🙂
01:49:57 HilaryGadsby: I have not continued with my local society but might write to the membership secretary and tell them why and what could improve the membership.
01:49:57 RandySeaver: it would be like requiring a CG or AG in the USA
01:54:15 Karen Trearchis: Why does Dave use Zoom, what level of Zoom, what is cost? BTW, CORI- Criminal Offender Record Information, they are looking for sexual predators, too.
01:56:53 HilaryGadsby: We have criminal checks in the UK
01:57:01 Karen Trearchis: MSOG, MV & Bristol chapter has been checking the boys off with badges. Our VP of MV chapter is a Boy Scout leader!
01:57:25 AnnaMatthews: The local Irish and Italian groups here offer a half-hour one-on-one help before the meetings every month. They also have new members introduce themselves and ask about surnames. When I went to the Italian group last month I only had two surnames but met someone sitting right in front of me with that surname.
01:57:49 Bill West: Genealogy and hockey have lines in common. (Hockey joke)

01:58:25 Sheri Fenley: San Joaquin Genealogical Society goes where ever they ask us to go and sometimes even when they don’t ask us!
01:58:58 Sheri Fenley: LOL Bill West!
01:59:42 Sheri Fenley: Snacks always help!
01:59:53 RandySeaver: We have the social half hour after the speaker and the short meeting at our programs
02:01:37 Karen Trearchis: I have had CORI done and so has Dean & we are good, too! hahaha

surname society 2

02:02:03 Cousin Russ:
02:02:29 Sheri Fenley: Is the society only for British people? I noticed the dues are in pounds
02:05:03 JohnLaws: The Surname Society was a breakaway group from Guild of One-Name Studing
02:05:16 Marian Koalski: Randy, thank you for contributing to worldwide knowledge on using those unindexed collections. They are a lot more usable than most people imagine.
02:06:34 Karen Trearchis: Our meeting begins at 10 AM and socialize from 9-10, most arrive around 9:30 or after.
02:07:18 RandySeaver: Sheri, the Surname society is worldwide – only 5 pounds (Paypal converts to dollars on your charge card). Monthly Hangouts, an annual virtual conference, and great people you meet at RootsTech! Love Kirsty Gray – the English version of Dave Robison, I think
02:08:31 RandySeaver: Marian Koalski – thank you – you’re right about the unindexed records. I’m in them every day now.
02:10:00 Sheri Fenley: San Joaquin accepts Paypal for all money transactions
02:10:03 Karen Trearchis: The same with us

02:11:54 DearMYRTLE:
02:12:44 Karen Trearchis: 96% of my town was without power from the last snowstorm here in Massachusetts.
02:13:09 RandySeaver: Surname Society conference on 17 March speakersl isted in Pretty good for 5 pounds a year.

02:13:52 Cousin Russ: Comparing BMD indexes for England and Wales: Ancestry by Audrey Collins

Where Audrey explains “There are some transcription errors, but a much bigger problem is the way that the parishes are listed in their registration districts; if the name of the district contains more than one word, the list will show all the parishes in districts which contain any of those words. So the link for the registration district of St George in the East goes to a list of parishes in districts all over the country, including St Martin in the Fields, Newcastle in Emlyn, Stow on the Wold, and Bury St Edmunds, to name but a few. “

02:15:26 Cousin Russ: Women’s History Month 2018: Community Cookbooks by Gena Phillibert-Ortega
02:15:42 Cousin Russ: Crista Cowan’s Timeless: Taxi Drive to NASCAR
02:16:01 Shelley Murphy: I love the program Timeless.

Image: Alisha Chipman of the Library’s Conservation Division prepares to treat a newly discovered photograph of abolitionist Harriet Tubman, one of 44 portraits inside a photo album jointly acquired by the Library of Congress and the Smithsonian’s National Museum of African American History and Culture. Photo by Shawn Miller.
02:16:32 Cousin Russ: New Online: Rare Photo of Harriet Tubman Preserved for Future Generations March 6, 2018 by Mark Hartsell
02:16:44 Bill West: Timeless is educating people as they entertain them.
02:16:58 Cousin Russ: Randy Seaver’s Best of the Genea-Blogs – 11 to 17 March 2018
02:17:13 PatKuhn: I love Timeless!!!
02:17:15 Shelley Murphy: Yes it is Bill West, love it.

The General Data Protection Act (May 2018)

02:17:18 Cousin Russ: GDPR by Roberta Estes
02:17:42 RandySeaver: Dick Eastman had an article on GDPR also.

02:19:30 Cousin Russ:

02:19:41 Cousin Russ: James Tanner’s Computer Storage in the Future: A Concern for Genealogists
02:20:27 Cousin Russ: Machines reading the archive: handwritten text recognition software
02:21:48 Janine Edmée Hakim: Dear Myrtle….speaking of reading handwriting, is the wonderful Frenchman who created a handwriting [transcription] program…you featured him on a webinar?
02:21:57 Cousin Russ: Our conversation will continue here –
02:23:08 Doris Haskell: Yes, you are good. Very good. Thank you!
02:23:10 Karen Trearchis: Great time
02:23:23 Janine Edmée Hakim: Great as always

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ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 5 Mar 2018


This is the first Mondays with Myrt webinar since RootsTech 2018. Let’s hear from folks all over the world about their take on the conference, including those #notatrootstech .


00:49:40 Susan Howard: Yea, you are live!
00:50:02 Susan Howard: Hi Dave Robison! Was nice meeting you in person!
00:50:37 True Lewis: Susan I was so Happy to see YOU!
00:50:50 Betty-Lu Burton: Hello every one
00:50:58 Susan Howard: I can hear that!
00:51:08 True Lewis: I couldn’t get to him. Luckily I ran into him in the Hall.
00:51:15 Sheryl Whisenhunt: I was going to say, Poor Russ, you talked too much at Roots Tech this year. Take care of yourself.
00:51:29 Susan Howard: It’s Monday!
00:52:25 Susan Howard: The Cousin Russ Help Bar was perfect!
00:52:50 Betty-Lu Burton: That looks like it would of been a great place to work
00:53:20 Marian Koalski: But missing comfy chairs for the booth worker
00:54:13 Bill West: Good morninng from cloudy Massachusetts
00:54:33 Susan Howard: Shadow box is such a cool idea!
00:55:17 Bryher Scudamore: Good evening from London, UK
00:55:35 Robbin Smith: hello from sunny Miami

NOTE Mr. Myrt and I hosted a RootsTech After-Party for genealogy bloggers. This is the shadow box I gave cousin Russ with the shadow box about his ancestor Samuel Worthington, pictured below, including a US Civil War (Union) participation medal.

2018 Samuel Worthings US Civil War presentation
00:55:46 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Very nice gift indeed.
00:56:04 Robbin Smith: cool indeed
00:56:20 Pam Helm: Very beautiful gift. I am sure he will treasure it forever.

00:56:34 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Live streaming was great.
00:56:51 Betty-Lu Burton: Live streaming worked great
00:58:02 Marian Koalski: REPEATED THANKS to Randy for the link where we could get handouts from home computers
00:58:02 Robbin Smith: I hope everyone saw or attended the “DNA No Match No Problem” session
00:58:21 Robbin Smith: that was a great session
00:58:38 Susan Howard: I think it was easier to get into some live stream sessions #NotAtRootsTech than it was being there in person.

00:59:25 Sheryl Whisenhunt: Living DNA was great.
00:59:58 Susan Howard: I’m excited about LivingDNA’s new Family Network feature. I’m going to be helping beta test starting next month.
01:00:36 Betty-Lu Burton: I am looking forward to finding out if I have Scottish in me, with the work Living dNA is doing in the UK
01:01:15 True Lewis: LivingDNA was Awesome. They stood out the most besides My Heritage to me.
01:02:31 True Lewis: Ms. Peggy had 361 Relatives at Rootstech!
01:02:54 RandySeaver: the link to find your relatives on the Family Tree app is gone now
01:03:26 Karen Trearchis: I liked using the Rootstech18 app! It is great that we can download the handouts on the app. Does everyone online now know that they can?
01:03:27 Yvonne Demoskoff: My husband (who’s Russian) didn’t get any relatives, poor thing 🙂
01:03:54 Yvonne Demoskoff: Randy, I did screen grabs of the ones I wanted to follow up on
01:03:55 Robbin Smith: i didn’t find any
01:05:17 RandySeaver: I got only one screen grab on the Family Tree app -the one that had David Rencher at the top of my list, and Pat as #5 on my list
01:07:14 Yvonne Demoskoff: I hope everyone checked their syllabi thumb drive because 50% of them weren’t formatted
01:07:28 Yvonne Demoskoff: mine was empty
01:07:53 True Lewis: I saw a lady carrying the book around and it was HUGE! (she had a roller back pack).
01:08:30 Linda Stufflebean: My flash drive syllabus says the files are corrupted and I heard many others make the same comment at the conference.
01:09:48 Bill West: Russ, you sound like Dave. Feel better soon.
01:11:09 Karen Trearchis: I downloaded the handout, then you can choose to send by email or what I did on my Mac, I downloaded it and you can choose where you want it to go. I saved to notes and it went immediately into iCloud.

NOTE: MacKiev’s Family Tree Maker booth was amazing. Cousin Russ had his own part of the booth – the HELP BAR.

2018 RootsTech FTM Booth
01:11:44 Marian Koalski: It sure was smart of MacKiev to have you host that Family Tree Maker booth, Russ.

01:12:56 Susan Howard: The Black Pro Gen group were having so much fun! NOTE: “BlackProGen is a group of professional genealogists who research and document African American families. We share research strategies, thoughts, ideas, experiences, and whatever comes to mind while working for clients and in our own research endeavors through conference and webinar presentations, blogs, podcasts, video, interviews, and more.” Source:

ABOVE: Bernice Alexander Bennett, Angela Walton-Raji, Janis Minor Forte, Shelley Murphy and Kathleen Brandt at RootsTech 2016 for a discussion on “Telling Your Story” for Black ProGen.

01:13:47 RandySeaver: I missed the Black Pro Gen exhibit…my bad I think.
01:15:59 Robbin Smith: I got out as the snow was starting at 11pm they had to de-ice the plane
01:18:36 Betty-Lu Burton: How special True, what an honor
01:18:36 RandySeaver: CeCe is very thoughtful – you were lucky, True, and good!
01:19:39 Doris Haskell: What a special moment in life! Good for you!
01:20:57 Betty-Lu Burton: The theme for Living DNA was we are all more a like then different
01:22:06 Robbin Smith: Russ, the link worked for me
01:22:45 Betty-Lu Burton: True your mom is going to be over the moon when she gets that picture
01:23:46 Bill West: True, I’m jealous!
01:25:17 Teri Chaffin: true you are beautiful inside and out!
01:25:35 Shelley Murphy: love my cousin True Roots…
01:25:37 Betty-Lu Burton: True your journey into the genealogy community is truely a story of inclusion and of people helping each other
01:26:19 Susan Howard: I got to meet Nicka Smith! Love her blog!
01:27:16 Shelley Murphy: oh she ran by, no walking for True
01:27:29 Shelley Murphy: I agree Betty-Lu
01:27:51 Doris Haskell: Sharing a booth is a smart idea.
01:27:53 Valerie Lisk: True, you are in the dog house because Black Pro Gen Live is not on the Genea Webinar Calendar. <g>

01:28:03 Shelley Murphy:
01:33:53 Shelley Murphy: I love it too!. Russ do you always close your eyes?
01:34:54 True Lewis: I’ll get it Valerie!!!!!! Thanks for the Links Susan and Shelley! Thank You Betty Lu and Valerie Lisk.

A “Scrolling Family Tree” – best *new thing* at RootsTech 2018.

01:35:59 Shelley Murphy: oh where did you get it from, wonderful.
01:36:08 True Lewis: Already @Shelley!
01:37:01 Susan Howard: I saw that and thought it was pretty cool but I am pretty much all digital and don’t like to carry any more than I have to
01:37:27 Bryher Scudamore: They are called Dry Marker pens in the UK
01:37:27 True Lewis: LoooOoL


01:41:35 Cousin Russ: FamilySearch’s new “Communities”
01:43:59 DaveRobison: Interesting! I have a speaker on Welsh and UK research coming to WMGS this week!
01:47:17 Shelley Murphy: I left 2 hours late, heading out from the airport
01:48:00 Shelley Murphy: oh yes, I am, one.

01:48:52 Cousin Russ:

RootsFinder screen shot 2018
01:49:28 Cousin Russ:

MyHeritage 1 to many

NOTE: See MyHeritage “One-to-Many Chromosome Browser: Genetic genealogy made easier” post

01:50:28 Susan Howard: Love the MyH one-to-many! Have played with it a little bit and it’s fabulous!

IMAGE: Henry-Louis-Gates-Jr.-Headshot-Courtesy-of-Ark-MediaIMAGE: Courtesy of
01:51:24 Marian Koalski: Prof. Gates, pictured above, says that Season 5 of Finding Your Roots is in production. See

01:51:28 Shelley Murphy: I am going to Rensselaer Historical Society next week, if anyone needs a look up!
01:51:33 Susan Howard: Living DNA Family Networks coming later this year. Will be in beta starting next month. I will be beta testing it.

DNA Painter
01:51:58 Valerie Lisk: DNA PAINTER won an award.
01:52:32 True Lewis: Love you Cousin Shells and Thank You for Everything. Thanks Renate! We missed you.
01:53:03 Susan Howard: Yes, DNA Painter! I had a chance to meet and help Jonny Perl out at his booth. Lots of interest!
01:53:08 Shelley Murphy: @True, right back at you.
01:53:33 Doris Haskell: Did Hilary Gadsby find her way in here today?

findmypast 2017
01:53:58 True Lewis: Myko was so helpful about Find My Past was glad to meet him again. Dapper Historian on Twitter.
01:55:29 RandySeaver: Doris, no Hilary is traveling today back home

LegacyTree Genealogists
01:55:43 Cousin Russ:
01:55:48 Shelley Murphy: They are hiring!

01:56:25 True Lewis: Charge it to my MIND and not my HEART! if I forgot anyone, I didn’t mean to. Rootstech has me still tired.
01:57:47 RandySeaver: I got to meet Doris Haskell in person too!
01:57:50 Shelley Murphy: oh I agree True, I am exhausted…and I am at work now. The body will catch up…
01:58:44 True Lewis: I’m chilling the rest of the week. lol. I got scatterbrains.

01:58:48 Cousin Russ:
02:00:37 Shelley Murphy: folks were in there crying, they got emotional. Bernice is excellent
02:00:42 RandySeaver: I really enjoyed meeting Roberta Estes, Marian Pieree-Louis, Dave Robison, Marian Wood and others for the first time
02:02:17 RandySeaver: Roberta Estes blogpost with photos of MyHeritage screens during the MyHeritage lunch is at
02:02:22 True Lewis: People need to include the Emotional side and look at the perspectives. This is gonna be a big deal in DNA.
02:04:21 Susan Howard: Lucky you Dave!
02:04:50 Shelley Murphy: Thats really cool Dave!
02:05:25 True Lewis: Love it DAVE! that’s how I felt about meeting you Finally!
02:06:18 Shelley Murphy: With all the vendors linked to DNA, where do you all see this going in the future? Is it really just family connections or more?
02:06:53 AnnaMatthews: It’s off the RootsTech topic, but for anyone in the NY area, the New York branch of NARA is having a NY genealogy research series, the second Tuesday of March, April, May and June. More info here:
02:07:53 Karen Trearchis: Do you have to be LDS? If we have a tree on familysearch, does that count? [MYRT: No.]
02:08:11 Valerie Lisk: you have to be an LDS member to synch Familysearch with MyHeritage?
02:08:13 True Lewis: THAT IS BEAUTIFUL!
02:08:25 Shelley Murphy: It is beautiful
02:08:27 True Lewis: all the way from Norway!
02:08:41 Karen Trearchis: thanks Val
02:09:12 Maria Tegtmeier: She is wonderful – had a great conversation with her
02:09:36 Valerie Lisk: Sorry Karen. That was a question.
02:09:47 RandySeaver: Shelley, I think the BIG collaborative FamilySearch Family Tree is the winner. Findmypast and MyHeritage will partner with them, as will RootsFinder. FSFT is the biggest tree (over 900 million profiles) and will last a long time. All people will need to do is enter themselves and parents and grandparents and should be able to hook into the tree and receive DNA matches from the DNA matches.
02:09:58 True Lewis: Melissa is so SWEET for that! What a Rootstech! xoxo’s for that.

02:13:03 RandySeaver: Valerie Lisk – at the present time, yes you have to be an LDS member to sync with MyHeritage. And it’s not a sync like RootsMafic or Legacy has – it’s download 8 generations of ancestors and 3 generations of descendants from FSFT to a NEW MyHeritage tree, which will generate MyHeritage Hints which can be added back into FSFT.
02:13:08 Shelley Murphy: I think you are right RandySeaver. RT was heavy with DNA vendors.

DearMYRTLE meets her favorite genealogy mystery writer, Nathan Dylan Goodwin. Here’s our selfie!Nathan Goodwin

You’ll also find his books on Amazon here:
Nathan’s website: 

Nathan Goodwin website

This is DearMYRTLE’s AmbushCAM video featuring Nathan Dylan Goodwin.


02:13:09 Karen Trearchis: Yes, he is a mystery book author
02:13:11 DaveRobison: Nathan Dylan Goodwin
02:14:10 RandySeaver: I spoke to Nathan Goodwin – a very pleasant fellow and I’m reading his latest book, “The Wicked Trade.”
02:15:39 True Lewis: Sharn sent Pudding some lovely gifts. Hilary gave me something from Wales! Love them.
02:16:57 Karen Trearchis: So much fun, I wish I could have been at the party and Rootstech18!
02:17:11 Shelley Murphy: Oh True, I forgot to sign Pudding books.
02:17:26 True Lewis: No Worries. I’ll bring them to MAAGI —!
02:17:47 Bill West: Feel better soon, both of you!
02:18:09 Karen Trearchis: I hope you feel better soon, Russ!
02:18:11 Betty-Lu Burton: I was talking to my son and mentioned the Aussie delegation to RootsTech and he said he knew several from his gaming community that were going to RootsTech. Interesting how the 2 worlds collided
02:18:38 Shelley Murphy: I hope you feel better Cousin Russ
02:18:41 Marian Koalski: Alka Seltzer Plus, Russ
02:18:41 Susan Howard: Thanks, Myrt and Russ!
02:18:46 Shelley Murphy: Thank you

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ARCHIVED: AmericaGen Study Group Chapter 2 “Language Terminology and Important Issues””

AmericaGen Study Group

Chapter 2 “Language Terminology and important Issues” is our focus in this session. Attendees and panelists read the chapter in advance. Homework submitted by panelists concerns their personal take on concepts suggested by author Val Greenwood. Thank-you to moderators Melinda Culpon and Liberty Evanko for compiling homework submission and leading this discussion. Note this group meets monthly, usually on the 4th Wednesday of the month.

Val Greenwoods bookSYLLABUS
The Researchers Guide to American Genealogy 4th Edition by Val D. Greenwood, 2017 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co.) Available in paperback

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10:04:25 From Cary Bright : FamilySearch Wiki is my first stop in developing a plan for my research. Vocabulary, record availability and links to records in the FHL catalog.

FamilySearch Wiki

Black's Law Dictionary10:05:40 From Cousin Russ : Black’s Law Dictionary – 1st and 2nd Edition on CD A Dictionary of Law Containing Definitions of the Terms and Phrases of American and English Jurisprudence, Ancient and Modern (First Edition, 1891 & Second Edition, 1910); by Henry Campbell Black, M.A.; 2485 pp; CD; Published: 1891 and 1910; Republished on CD: 2006; ISBN: 1933828080; Item # US0211

10:06:13 From Dawn Carlile : They took out a number of older terms to add new terminology for the 5th edition.

A to Zax (Dictionary)
10:11:41 From Cousin Russ : A to Zax: A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists and Historians. Third Edition

10:16:08 From Melinda Culpon to All panelists : Idem Sonans – Sounding the same or alike; having the same sound. A term applied to names which are spelled differently.
10:16:15 From Maria Tegtmeier to All panelists : Name pairs have happened with our German ancestors living in Poland. Sometimes they would use their German surname and sometimes the equivalent surname in Polish. They mean the same thing but, are two different words.
10:17:05 From Molly McKinley to All panelists : I have 2 Hames brothers which 1 changed his spelling to Haymes. It didn’t cross my mind to check out the other spelling until I saw that these were in the same family.
10:17:07 From Valerie Lisk : I have 2 brothers who went by Robinson and the other 2 went by Robertson. Two different soundex codes.
10:17:21 From Lisa Gorrell : That paired names also happened in French Canada, too.
10:17:33 From Jackie Wilson : That just shows how important genealogy education is!
10:19:00 From Melinda Culpon : we have peveto, pivot, pevito cousins
10:19:02 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Hey, Lisa: I’m French-Canadian. We might be related!
10:19:02 From Isabella Baltar to All panelists : The same happen to Portuguese families when they immigrated to US. Their names and surnames were adapted to English. Many of them are similar to the native language, but others totally different.
10:20:14 From Irene : It’s probably commmon but, with my McQueen’s from Scotland, all 4 brothers and 2 uncles changed the name to MacQueen once they reached NY in the 1890’s.
10:21:02 From Leah Smith to All panelists : I have French Canadian family who at different times used 3 different surnames – French surname, dit name, and Anglicized version of French surname. There were also variant spellings of the French surname.
10:27:35 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Was the name on that sheet, just now Ousley?
10:28:36 From Deb Andrew to All panelists : Yea, part of the Owsley/Ousley lines.
10:29:19 From Kim Krautheim to All panelists : My maiden name is Daugherty, and they’re from eastern Tennessee. My Daugherty line has more folks that have married other Daugherty’s than any other line (marrying someone with the same surname.)
10:29:23 From Lisa Gorrell to Yvonne Demoskoff and all panelists : No. I have no French Canadian ancestors. I did some research for someone else.

Ancestry's Wiki
10:32:57 From Cousin Russ : Ancestry’s Wiki

10:33:05 From Cousin Russ : The Source: A Guidebook to American Genealogy – Szucs and Lubking [Note: integrated into Ancestry’s Wiki]
10:33:17 From Janet McNaughton to All panelists : When you transcribe do you use the letters as they appear or the modern spelling or both?
10:34:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Shows how closely connected the record keeping traditions are as I encounter the same problems with my English research.
10:35:06 From Lisa Gorrell : Some hyphens were = signs either on the first line or the second line before the rest of the word.
10:36:43 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : Kip Sperry’s book “Reading Old Handwriting” is excellent. Reading Early American Handwriting
10:37:36 From Cousin Russ : Reading Early American Handwriting 1st Edition by Kip Sperry

BYU Script Tutorial

10:38:37 From Cousin Russ : BYU SCRIPT TUTORIAL –

FamilySearch Indexing
10:40:04 From Cousin Russ : FamilySearch Indexing –
10:40:45 From Peggy Lauritzen to All panelists : They have a backlog of 7.7 millions records. Needed!
10:41:04 From Maria Tegtmeier : Indexing is great Karma.
10:42:06 From Maria Tegtmeier : We watched a recent video that says only 30% of the records that Family Search has, has been indexed.
10:49:33 From Karen Jaszewski : Thank you everyone
10:50:04 From Pam Helm : Thank you Very informative
10:50:05 From Cary Bright : To me this chapter highlighted the tools needed in a genealogy tool box. Excellent way to highlight all the material. Great JOB to the panelists.
10:50:08 From Isabella Baltar : Thank you for this opportunity! Great.
10:50:58 From Teri Chaffin to All panelists : Love listening to all of you smart people — Thanks
10:51:07 From Jackie Wilson : I love the Source AND the authors!
10:52:43 From Cousin Russ : The conversation continues HERE –

It’s a party after Ol’ Myrt here stops the official recording. 
THANKS to Teri Chaffin for designing DearMYRTLE’s After Party graphic. Of course that’s sparkling apple cider in those flutes.  🙂

10:55:10 From Jackie Wilson : AmbushCAM = VLOG? LOL
10:55:15 From Hilary Gadsby : Ancestral Trails: The Complete Guide to British Genealogy and Family History this book costs over $50 new but is an excellent book that I use so this American Genealogy book is cheaper.
10:57:18 From Sheryl Whisenhunt : Thank each of you for a good session once again.
10:57:21 From Irene : Thank you. Interesting information to go with the chapter.

11:01:12 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Hello – I was wondering the same thing about the wheelchair. The reason I didn’t make it to #rootstech is because I can’t walk for long enough. Can you rent wheelchairs? [NOTE: ” SCOOTER AND WHEELCHAIR RENTALS The Salt Palace Business Center offers both electric mobility scooters and manual wheelchairs to assist you while you are visiting our convention center. Our fleet is located on-site, with hourly, daily and event rates.” See for phone and additional details.]


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  • Thursday 9:30am to 6pm
  • Friday 9:30am to 7pm
  • Saturday 9:30am to 4pm

11:01:25 From Jackie Wilson : Don’t they have a map of the vendor hall so you can map where you want to go? [ NOTE: Yes, this is the link to the Expo Hall with the map. The map is also downloadable.]
11:02:10 From Hilary Gadsby : Don’t forget to put the app on your phone
11:03:15 From Kim Krautheim : Got it, so just read Chapter 3 for next month.
11:03:18 From Kim Krautheim : THANKS!

11:04:31 From Maria Tegtmeier : They also have an app called Relatives at Rootstech
11:07:12 From Hilary Gadsby : You can use the Relatives at RootsTech when you get there
11:07:42 From Liberty Evanko to All panelists : I can hear my kids fussing at eachother. Thanks for a great session. It was fun but I better go!
11:09:02 From Hilary Gadsby : Not yet available on Android

11:10:57 From Hilary Gadsby : I may be helping out on WikiTree not decided on a time yet

11:11:26 From Jackie Wilson : I guess I had better start blogging so I can get my own [GeneaBloggersTRIBE] beads!!!!
11:11:47 From Hilary Gadsby : I share my blog with family
11:12:30 From Hilary Gadsby : My cousins family were in Illinois
11:13:20 From Deb Andrew : I’m an Illinoisan.
11:14:10 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : It is very cool.
11:15:07 From Jackie Wilson : I live in Illinois – Chicago so if you need legs on the ground . . .
11:17:52 From Jackie Wilson : Hillary, Skype might work.
11:20:28 From Roxanne Basey to All panelists : Love you guys! Wish I had talked to you about #Rootstech.

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