ARCHIVED: Mondays with Myrt – 18 Feb 2019


Had a blast today discussing the continuing saga of FTDNA changing it’s terms of service, England & Wales GRO (General Record Office) now routinely offering email .PDF of birth (1837-1918) and death records 1837-1957) and how Ancestry creates it’s big tree that is the backbone for the We’re Related App. We also explain why you should follow Evidence Explained on Facebook. Randy Seaver provides the link to RootsTech 2019 SLC handouts for remote attendees. We also give a shout out to Lisa Louise Cooke for 67 items about creating family history videos. And yes, “snake catcher” was a legitimate occupation in the late 1800s, England.



09:59:41 From Graham Walter to All panelists :
09:59:47 From Graham Walter to All panelists : GRO certificates
10:00:36 From Graham Walter : Hello from London everyone
10:01:25 From Linda Stufflebean : Are lunch get togethers planned for Monday in the cafeteria and/or Tuesday at Blue Lemon? [Yes, see: DearMYRTLE’s RootsTech 2019 SLC Plans]

10:02:27 From Hilary Gadsby : Will miss not being in Salt Lake this year
10:02:35 From Gary Gauthier : Good morning everyone.
10:02:38 From Linda Stufflebean : 🙂
10:02:39 From Betty-Lu Burton : Hello
10:03:48 From ERIC COOK to All panelists : Hi all!
10:04:00 From John Laws : Hi Everyone from bonnie Scotland just found a cousin, great grans brothers grandson Wow!
10:04:37 From Graham Walter : I’ll be about
10:04:58 From Monique Riley : Wish I could come to MWM on Monday, but not coming in until Tuesday.
10:05:42 From Cheri Hudson Passey : I’ll see you there!!
10:06:49 From Cheri Hudson Passey : Still home. Fly out on Friday!

10:07:12 From Cousin Russ : Move over Parabon, there’s a new kid in town.
10:08:38 From Betty-Lu Burton : People forget that the same way they solve crime using DNA they also identify people who have died without ID
10:09:28 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists :
10:10:24 From cyndy Bray : FTDNA promised us privacy, then went back on their promise. Then tried to guilt us into liking the idea
10:10:25 From John Laws : What other secret organisations are these companies sharing our data with, the Russia investigation makes you wonder
10:11:37 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists :
10:11:39 From Randy Seaver to All panelists : I do want to talk about the Ancestry Big Tree based on my reader shared, plus my own comments, but I’dl ike to briefly mention the RootsTech 2019 handouts being available online for everyone, and my FOREVER box too.
10:13:13 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Blaine post –
10:13:29 From Randi Patrick : Concise
10:13:29 From Randy Seaver : The comments on blaine’s FB post pointed out that the hourly rate was $233 for everything but the tests, and the genealogist gets something like $100. Every company has overhead.
10:14:15 From Marcia Philbrick :
10:14:15 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Sorry – it was the first in the list (in my browser)
10:14:18 From Randy Seaver : $100 an hour is a reasonable rate for a professional genetic genealogist
10:16:10 From Graham Walter to All panelists : Proper Blaine link (
10:16:21 From Graham Walter to All panelists : I hope 🙂
10:17:28 From Randy Seaver : There is an article about CeCe Moore in the Wall Street Journal recently but it’s behind their paywall
10:17:29 From John Laws : Just look what Car dealers charge when you get the car serviced Jaguar charge $200 just to lift the hood without doing any work
10:19:31 From Cousin Russ : GRO certificates
10:21:22 From Randy Seaver : I ordered a birth cert from GRO in 2017 in the trial – see the result in
10:21:28 From Rachel Evans : I ordered a few when they had the trial for husband’s line. It was quick and easy. Glad they are doing it again. I have a few more to get.
10:22:07 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : Graham; what is the quality of the PDF like? How is the cost relative to the paper copy?
10:22:56 From Hilary Gadsby : The pdf is available to download for 3 months after it is issued
10:23:00 From Monique Riley : I have ordered several PDF’s from the GRO and love this service.
10:23:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Do we have Audrey Collins to thank for that???
10:23:44 From Hilary Gadsby : You must save them before this time period expires
10:24:12 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : The Saskatchewan certificates are, I believe, over $50 CDN
10:24:48 From Randi Patrick : It would be nice to see a side by side of the two documents.
10:24:58 From Hilary Gadsby : No I think someone else may have pushed could have been Guy Etchells
10:25:07 From Doris Haskell : I prefer the actual entry. A death certificate I received had no burial information, which is what I was looking for. I went to the FHL and looked at the image of the original record, and found the burial informaiton.
10:25:33 From Hilary Gadsby : The index is great
10:26:14 From Cousin Russ : Doris — some of the death certificates that I have seen, do have burial information. (US based DC)
10:26:24 From Marian Koalski : John Laws, I’m thinking about the old White Sale (linens).
10:26:36 From Marian Koalski : Ladies fighting over pillowcases
10:27:12 From Cousin Russ : Smokey Mountain Historical Society’s YouTube Channel.
10:28:27 From Hilary Gadsby : Death certificates in UK do not have a lot of relationship information
10:28:54 From Hilary Gadsby : that should be England and Wales
10:29:06 From Randi Patrick : All publicity is good publicity!
10:31:59 From Jim Everhart : We post these for members and prospective members to see, these are open to the public and for people like me who live in another state

10:32:43 From Cousin Russ :
10:33:08 From Robbin Smith : what about animoto?
10:34:17 From Cousin Russ : for podcasting
10:35:17 From Cousin Russ : Lisa Louise Cooke has 67 videos about creating family history videos.
10:36:41 From Cousin Russ : Are you following EVIDENCE EXPLAINED on Facebook? If not you are missing interactive challenges.
10:36:53 From Sally Smith to All panelists : I do
10:37:35 From Joanne Parkes : Really appreciate the Evidence Explained updates!
10:37:56 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : A lot of the content comes from her website forum. That is, from EE user questions.
10:38:19 From Monique Riley : I follow and appreciate seeing EE on FB because it helps me see posts more often as I don’t go to her website as often.
10:39:02 From Dave Robison to All panelists : When I saw that post, I thought it looked exactly like the handwritten records I see in early 1600’s Springfield, Massachusetts. No surprise, they were all English settlers!
10:39:35 From Randy Seaver : agree with Dave on the handwriting!
10:45:09 From Jim Everhart : As a member bennefit SMHS has a online tree of combined genealogies from members into a unified tree with over 1.1 million names that is searchable TNG database. This has helped us grow our membership as well as preserve these genealogies and the can be updated as the people give us updates.
10:45:57 From Gary Gauthier to All panelists : I’veseen such notes in Canadian records
10:46:55 From Randy Seaver : That’s great, Jim! We have duscussed doing something like that, but getting GEDCOMs from living folks is hard, and from dead folks is impossible. We do have 5 generation charts from lots of former members in books, but the data entry is challenging.
10:46:59 From Cousin Russ : for my WikiTree surprise
10:48:01 From Cousin Russ :
10:48:02 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists :
10:48:12 From Cousin Russ :
10:49:22 From Jim Everhart : We have a PDF form on our FB group page for people who want to give the last 3 generations included in our project we probable have most further back than that
10:50:10 From Randy Seaver : Jim, did you collect GEDCOMs for the project?
10:52:00 From Randy Seaver : Our thought was to put the collected “CVGS Tree” into an Ancestry Member Tree, but a TNG setup is interesting.
10:52:06 From Cousin Russ : Randy – one way that he got data was from PAF
10:52:29 From Cousin Russ : I converted a PAF to FTM2017 for Jim and he put it on TNG
10:52:58 From Randy Seaver : This would be a great project for a county society like Jim’s.
11:03:10 From Monique Riley : Randy, I have to thank you for telling us the trick on how to download the RootsTech handouts on the computer. I have did it this way the past few years. It is much easier to rename them that way.
11:03:27 From Randy Seaver : CVGS collected GEDCOMs from about 15 members 15 years ago and put it in a search page on the website. We get queries every so often. Many of our contributors have passed away now.

11:04:22 From Randy Seaver : The 2019 RootsTech SLC 2019 handouts can be found at
11:07:50 From Randy Seaver : My blogp post about downloading from 2018 is at The same process works for 2019
11:08:21 From Yvonne Demoskoff : Thanks Monique!
11:09:01 From Melissa Barker : Hello Everyone! I am off because of the holiday so had to drop in on Monday’s with Myrt.
11:09:30 From Graham Walter to All panelists : They haven’t yet passed that feature (pre screen sharing bit) to the Mac version
11:11:43 From DearMYRTLE . to All panelists : thank-you, Randy. I’ll be ready to share the screen for you.
11:12:36 From Shelby Bender : For Pat Kuhn: we have a patron of our historical society whose KUHN family immigrated from Hungary to Pennsylvania in 1904 and 1906. They then later came to Plant City, Florida in 1926/29 after the bank crashed that he owned.
11:12:57 From Dave Robison  : Hi Melissa! The folks at First church are very impressed with the docs I put into the L-sleeves you recommended.
11:13:53 From Melissa Barker : Dave, I am going to talk about your documents and preserving oversized records on Wacky Wednesday, hope you can be there.
11:14:15 From Dave Robison to All panelists : I plan on it unless I’m shoveling snow!!
11:14:32 From John Laws : Found through an Ancestry hint my Great Grandfather apprenticeship to his father a Ship’s Master in 1840 aged 12 for 4 years
11:14:57 From Dave Robison to All panelists : But I’ll email a few of the members especially our Historical Committee to tune in.
11:16:46 From Jim Everhart to All panelists : We have tons of Shultz/Shults in our tree
11:18:53 From John Laws : Just like Ancestry assuming data NOT in the original record – very bad practice.
11:20:23 From Monique Riley : Everyone thank Randy about the RT handout link, he is the one who told us. I was just thanking him 🙂
11:22:44 From Randy Seaver : I have downloaded the handouts for Wednesday and Thursday at RootsTech 2019 now, and need to do the other two days. I made a RootsTech 2019 file folder to put them in.
11:22:58 From Janine Edmée Hakim : Thank you
11:24:08 From Randy Seaver : I probably should be adding obituaries from my Seavers in the News posts to FamilySearch Family Tree profiles as Media and Notes.
11:24:17 From Monique Riley : I only downloaded the handouts I was interested in. I am printing off paper copies for the classes I am interested in attending so I can bring them to RT and take notes right on the paper. I am spiral binding all the handouts.
11:24:21 From Cousin Russ : Randy Seaver’s blog post about my Ancestry insider reader’s comments about the Ancestry Big Tree, and his own comments, is at
11:25:58 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : What about it is in a book so it has to be right
11:29:15 From Joanne Parkes : I could be wrong but I think that Ancestry regularly “talks” to FamilySearch tree — only think this because when I enter a new source in either one, that same source becomes a recommended option in the other one. But no source info for this thought.
11:32:34 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : It is very hard to figure out how your related to a fourth cousin.
11:32:53 From Marcia Philbrick : The ‘Big Tree’ is still merging people of the same name. I’m wondering if there is a way to submit corrections.
11:33:24 From John Laws : RootsMagic has a error finder well worth using regularly
11:33:53 From June Butka : I just found an error from when I first entered that ancestor years ago. My 5th Great grandfather.

11:36:22 From Cousin Russ : The We’re Related App by Kitty Cooper
Ancestry’s Support Page for the We’re Related App
11:36:38 From Kathleen Daetsch to All panelists : I reject it if I am not happy with the documentation my second great grandmother’s line is not proven to my satisfaction
11:37:24 From Hilary Gadsby to All panelists : I had it say I am related to Pat most is correct but not sure about the last one
11:37:32 From Marcia Philbrick : How do you dislike something on We’re Related?
11:38:40 From Graham Walter to All panelists : I’ll be there!!
11:38:43 From Randy Seaver : Marcia, at the bottom of the profile for the We’re Related match person, there is a thumbs up button and a thumbs down button
11:39:17 From Marcia Philbrick : Hush about the snow! When you get some — we have it a couple of days later. We are totally ready to be done with the snow!
11:39:20 From John Laws : Gonna have to bring flask of coffee and Sandwiches
11:40:04 From Randi Patrick : Great job! Thank you.
11:40:40 From Graham Walter : Goodbye everyone – have a great day
11:41:21 From Graham Walter : your muted Jim
11:45:30 From Dave Robison to All panelists : Goodbye everyone and thanks! See you Wednesday.
11:45:37 From Graham Walter : Bye Dave
11:46:54 From Graham Walter : See you next week in SLC

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MONDAYS WITH MYRT (90 minutes) 9 Oct 2017 – Register here.  Practical, down-to-earth advice for family historians. We talk about what’s come across our genea-desks in the past week. Let’s explore methodology and websites, figure out how DNA test results may or may not match our paper-trail research, explore new family history software and apps, hash out our commitment to the Genealogical Proof Standard, and maybe get organized. Powerful breakthroughs happen during our live hangouts. Catch the rebroadcast here, along with all the links we mentionNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles). See also:


GenDoc 5 STUDY GROUP (60 minutes) Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 – Register here. Chapter 5 – “Capitalization, Italics, Punctuation and Other Citation Subtleties” from Thomas W. Jones’ Mastering Genealogical DocumentationNoon Eastern US (New York), 11am Central US (Chicago), 10am Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 9am Pacific US (Los Angeles). You can catch the previous sessions here:


WACKY WEDNESDAY (60 minutes) Wednesday, 11 Oct 2017 – Register here. Topic to be announced based on our conversation during this week’s Mondays with Myrt9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles). Check out last week’s session Watermarks & Source Labels.

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Is Your Society Growing? Social media may be your saving grace Friday, 13 Oct 2017 Register here. It’s all about selling the sizzle! Ask genealogists about the perceived value of joining a genealogy society, the will invariably say

  • networking with friends and colleagues
  • great presenters access to “boots on the ground” experts

This webinar discusses 10 ideas to pump new life into genealogy & historical societies and family associations. Based on DearMYRTLE’s blog post Do Conferences Need Bloggers? . At FamilyTreeWebinars featuring DearMYRTLE & Cousin Russ.  2pm Eastern (New York), 1pm Central (Chicago), 12pm Mountain (Denver, Salt Lake City), 11am Pacific (Los Angeles).

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GENEALOGY GAME NIGHT(60 minutes) Saturday, 14 Oct 2017 – Register here. This is your chance to practice using your headset mic and web cam while we play Who’s In My Line? There will be prizes! 9pm Eastern US (New York), 8pm Central US (Chicago), 7pm Mountain US (Denver, Salt Lake City), 6pm Pacific US (Los Angeles).


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Webinar: Is Your Society Growing? Social Media May Be Your Saving Grace

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It’s all about selling the sizzle! Ask genealogists about the perceived value of joining a genealogy society, they will invariably say:

  • networking with friends and colleagues
  • great presenters
  • access to “boots on the ground” experts

Cousin Russ and Ol’ Myrt here will present this webinar discussing 10 ideas to pump new life into genealogy societies, historical societies and family associations.

Friday, 13 Oct 2017
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11am Pacific US (Los Angeles)
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Pioneer Heritage

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IMAGE: Encouraging “Our Heritage – Our Responsibility” signage welcomes visitors to the DUP Pioneer Memorial Museum, Salt Lake City, Utah, image from the author’s private collection (2016.)

Ol’ Myrt here is thinking of her early LDS Church members today, 24 July 2017, as Utah commemorates 170 years since the first company arrived in the valley of the Great Salt Lake. The first lineage society I joined was the Daughters of Utah Pioneers to honor these stalwart pioneers.

  • William Warner PLAYER  and Zillah SAUNDERS
  • Charles Warner PLAYER and Betsy OADES
  • Thomas WASDEN and Mary COUCOM
  • William Brockerman WRIGHT and Emma Smith YEARSLEY
  • Abraham Reister WRIGHT and Mary Ann BROCKERMAN
  • David Dutton YEARSLEY and Mary Ann HOOPES

The following article was originally published in the Crossroads magazine, published by the Utah Genealogical Society.

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IMAGE: The DUP’s Pioneer Memorial Museum, main entrance, 300 North Main, Salt Lake City, Utah, from the author’s private collection (2016).

The International Society of the Daughters of Utah Pioneers (ISDUP, DUP)
submitted by Pat Richley-Erickson, member since 1993

Honoring one’s ancestors who arrived in the Utah Territory prior to 10 May 1869 isn’t limited to LDS Church members. Women finding documented evidence of progenitors living there before the striking of “the Golden Spike”(1) trace, may join the International Society Daughters of Utah Pioneers. And pioneers these early settlers were, for the barren, high desert plains amid the Oquirrh and Wasatch mountains and the red rock canyons were anything but hospitable.

“ISDUP was organized solely for historical, educational, and public purposes and is completely non-political and non-sectarian. We are dedicated to honoring the names and achievements of the men, women, and children who founded Utah.” (2)


Figure 2- Mary (Coucom) Wasden’s Shawl, donated by Jessie Grace Brown to the DUP Pioneer Memorial Museum, Salt Lake City, Utah, image from the author’s private collection (2016.)

This shawl was brought from England by my paternal 2nd great-grandmother and Utah Pioneer Mary Lucinda COUCOM born 25 April 1816 in Thrybergh, Yorkshire, England. She married Thomas WASDEN 6 Dec 1841, Rotherham, Yorkshire, England. The couple’s first 9 children were born in England, with the last three demonstrating the family’s migration. Daughter Mary was born in Cincinnati, Ohio; son Thomas was born on the plains near Florence, Nebraska; and the youngest, my great-grandmother Eliza, was born in Gunnison, Utah.  How their mother Mary kept the shawl clean I’ll never know, as it is certainly a colorful treasure.


With a family history of ancestors born in Utah, it was logical for me to continue research at the DUP’s History Department, housed in the DUP Pioneer Memorial Museum located at 300 N Main Street in Salt Lake City, Utah. While I had previously compiled church, military, probate and public vital records, what I gleaned at the DUP was anecdotal information from pioneer diaries and biographies in transcript and photocopy format. By touring the museum, I could picture my ancestors using primitive implements such as wood stoves, washtubs and rope strung beds.

Internet access to DUP’s Pioneer Index – History Cards is available at:
Finding a likely match to your paper trail research means there is a manuscript file on the ancestor(s) in the Historical Department. The website includes a mail-in request form, also used by walk-in researchers to obtain copies of specific manuscript files. There is a similar searchable database and request form for accessing the DUP photo collection. Note: Of the 15 photos I requested 7 were of pioneers with the balance being their descendants.


IMAGE: DUP Pioneer Index – Search Results WASDEN ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)

The DUP is organized into companies and camps, using terms Mormon pioneers used when crossing the plains from Nauvoo, Illinois to Utah. Currently DUP members attend camps in Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Texas, Utah, Virginia, Washington, Wyoming and Canada. Find the group nearest you to submit your lineage application created and printed from the DUP website.

When I joined in 1993, the DUP had no website. I was living in Utah so I asked my neighbors about joining. My application was reviewed by two witnesses then forwarded to the local William Preston (Cache South) Camp Captain and Camp Registrar before being forwarded to the County President and County Registrar. Together with their signatures, my application and membership fee were forwarded to Salt Lake for review by the DUP National Registrar. Once approved, my application was signed by the National President and the National Secretary who entered my name as a Utah pioneer descendant.

What surprised me is that unlike the National Society of Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR), my application was amended to include a few other pioneers in my lineage who are honored by the DUP. In the DAR, additional ancestors may be honored by submitting “supplemental” lineage applications, once the member’s initial DAR application has been approved. So while I initially joined the DUP to honor those on my PLAYER line, the DUP added pioneer WRIGHT ancestors as seen in handwritten entries in my application (below).


IMAGE: The author’s redacted Application for Membership, National Society of the Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1993, page 3. NOTE the previous name of the International Society of the Daughters of Utah Pioneers.


The educational aspect of DUP comes into play through a network of museums, roadside historical markers and monthly meetings held at a camp member’s home or local library. Meetings begin with a traditional song such as “Come, Come Ye Saints” popular around the campfire as our pioneer fore-fathers and mothers traversed the plains. A pioneer spotlight is given, and members may share an heirloom related to the focus topic for the month. Cookies and punch are typically served as members mingle with prospective members sharing stories of our ancestors.

Later, living elsewhere, I became a “member at large” owing to no local DUP camp. I continued to receive the monthly 50-page DUP lesson. In May 2013 that included information gleaned from pioneer histories about the pioneer kitchen, a poem “Salt Risin’ Bread” in Grandma’s day, a picture and description of Emily Jane Smith Woodruff’s wooden cupboard, a “Mormon Couch” with pink quilt, William Bernard Dougall’s kitchen table and chairs, information about Lucretia Davis Gay’s ladder-back chairs and rocker among other entries. Biographic spotlights included Charles and Ann (Malin) Sharp, Hannah Corilla Free Wells, Mary Ann Cannell Hadley, Henry Pearson, Samuel Bringhurst, Sr, Erastus Willard and Lucinda (Gates) Bingham, Phoebe Eleanor Richards Maiben, Thomas John James, William Calder, Isaiah Moses and Fanny (McLean) Coombs, and Judith Woodbury Temple Haven. So in addition to photos and descriptions of pie safes, butter churns, and wash boards, the DUP honors specific individuals for their strength and fortitude through these monthly lesson plans sent to all members.


DUP Directory

IMAGE: International Society, Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Museum Directory, 2014.

The definition of a DUP museum is when company/companies or camp/camps owns/own a museum building, log cabin and/or artifact collection which may be displayed and exhibited in a library, city or county building, or another museum.” (3)


IMAGE: George D. Pyper’s Eastlake secretary desk, donated by Oscar Kirkham to the DUP Pioneer Memorial Museum, image from the author’s private collection (2016.)


Carter, Kate B., Heart Throbs of the West, Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1939.

Carter, Kate B., Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1958.

Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Pioneer Memorial Museum: A Collection of Pioneer Memorabilia and Excerpts from Pioneer Journals, Salt Lake City, Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1983.

Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Pioneer Health Care, Salt Lake City: The Daughters, 1992.

Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Pioneer Women of Faith and Fortitude, Salt Lake City, Publishers Press 1998.

Lesson Committee, An Enduring Legacy Vol 1-12, Salt Lake City: Daughters of Utah Pioneers, 1978-1990, out of print. Available in digital format at the Family History Library, see

Lesson Committee, Chronicles of Courage, Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Salt Lake City: 1990-.

Lesson Committee, Pioneer Pathways, Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Salt Lake City: 1998-.


  • Family History Library, 35 North West Temple, Salt Lake City, Utah
  • FamilySearch Wiki, Utah, United States Genealogy,,_United_States_Genealogy : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)
  • FamilySearch Wiki, Tracing LDS Ancestors, ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)
  • Willard Marriott Library, Utah Digital Newspapers, University of Utah ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.) Although these publications currently include publications dated 1947-1969, references are made to pioneer ancestors.
  • Research Center for Utah State Archives and Utah State History, 300 S Rio Grande Street, Salt Lake City, Utah
  • Sons of Utah Pioneers,
  • US District Courts [Salt Lake City, Ogden, Provo and Beaver), Utah Territorial Case Files, ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)
  • “Utah, Obituaries from Utah Newspapers, 1850-2005,” Database, FamilySearch, ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.) From the newspaper collection at the J. Willard Marriott Library, University of Utah, Salt Lake City.
  • “Utah, Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah, 1847-1868,” database with images, FamilySearch. ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.) Excerpted from Esshom, Frank. Pioneers and Prominent Men of Utah: Comprising Photographs, Genealogies, Biographies. Salt Lake City, Utah: Utah Pioneers Books, 1913.
  • “Utah, Salt Lake County Death Records, 1849-1949,” Management and Archives, Salt Lake City, Database with images. FamilySearch. ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016)
  • Utah State Library, 250 North, 1950 West, Suite A, Salt Lake City, Utah
  • “Utah, Territorial Militia Records, 1849-1877.” Database with images. FamilySearch. ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.) Citing series 2210, Utah State Archives, Salt Lake City.


Individuals and historians may view resources freely at the DUP website and research in person at the DUP Pioneer Memorial Library and the DUP Historical Department.

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These ancestors demonstrated faith and fortitude under the most trying circumstances having been chased from Ohio to Missouri, then expelled under Gov. Boggs’ Missouri Executive Order 44, also known as the Extermination Order issued October 27, 1838. My ancestors and their compatriots built a delightful place out of the Mississippi swamp land at Nauvoo, Illinois only to be forced out once again after Joseph Smith and his brother Hyrum were killed by a mob at Carthage.

Perhaps their example will serve as a guide to me and my descendants that things of value may not come easily, but they are worth the effort.

Happy family tree climbing!
Myrt     🙂
Your friend in genealogy.

(1) See also: Golden Spike National Historic Site (Promontory, Utah) ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)

(2)  International Society Daughters of Utah Pioneers, “Welcome to the official site of ISDUP” ( : accessed 15 Sept 2016.)

(3) International Society, Daughters of Utah Pioneers, Museum Directory, 2014, p1.